Talk:Satya (1998 film)

Satya (1998 film) has been listed as one of the Media and drama good articles under the good article criteria. If you can improve it further, please do so. If it no longer meets these criteria, you can reassess it. Review: December 28, 2017. (Reviewed version).

This article is rated GA-class on Wikipedia's content assessment scale. It is of interest to the following WikiProjects:

Film: Indian This article is within the scope of WikiProject Film. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see lists of open tasks and regional and topical task forces. To use this banner, please refer to the documentation. To improve this article, please refer to the guidelines.FilmWikipedia:WikiProject FilmTemplate:WikiProject Filmfilm articles This article is supported by the Indian cinema task force. India: Cinema Mid‑importance This article is within the scope of WikiProject India, which aims to improve Wikipedia's coverage of India-related topics. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page.IndiaWikipedia:WikiProject IndiaTemplate:WikiProject IndiaIndia articles Mid This article has been rated as Mid-importance on the project's importance scale. This article is supported by the Indian cinema workgroup (assessed as Mid-importance). Guild of Copy Editors This article was copy edited by Miniapolis, a member of the Guild of Copy Editors, on 20 December 2017.Guild of Copy EditorsWikipedia:WikiProject Guild of Copy EditorsTemplate:WikiProject Guild of Copy EditorsGuild of Copy Editors articles

I am editing the section which says that he "...never killed anyone" as he himself admits, to impress Satya when he is sent by Kallu Mama to show him his kholi, about how important component a part of Bhikhu Mhatre Gang he is. He says that "बाजू की गल्ली में अपुन ने दो जनो का गेम बजा डाला"  Jon Ascton  (talk) 05:10, 13 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

"Mittal waali file kholu kya main teri." So says Bhiku to Chandu (the jewelry shop scene about 90 minutes into the film). I don't think Chandu has killed _anyone_. He was simply showing off. Last Contrarian (talk) 10:50, 13 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Hm...you may be right. Anyway I am impressed by your interest in the film. Same here. I've watched it for may be fifty times. Great movie. Yeah, it seems he's just boasting to impress Satya, he's lying. No real killer would say that before a person who he doesn't even know properly (he's been introduced to Satya just at most half an hour ago). And besides Bhikhu bhai himself tells us that he fainted when he saw a man being shot during extortion at Mittal General Store, as you observe. Another factor that is in favour of your argument is that he was killed so easily, it seems the police was not there especially to kill him, Chander just happened to be the wrong place at the wrong time. An experienced killer would not have been that foolish. Yeah, it seems he was clean, just a wannabe, as Bhikhu (or perhaps Mama) says in the end, " भाई बनने की खुजली थी साले को...". If you really think he's innocent make the necessary change.
Pleased to know you !  Jon Ascton  (talk) 14:19, 13 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I changed it to the way it was before while noting that he boasts about killing two people. Last Contrarian (talk) 21:22, 13 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Comments on the article during the 31 August 2008 review by User:Mspraveen - /Comments. Last Contrarian (talk) 18:34, 31 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I am extremely confident that the procession sequences and Bhau' murder were shot independent of each other. Very likely that I heard it on Anurag Kashyap's "Director's Cut" interview on Zoom that was telecast on April 6, 2008. Need independent corroboration of the fact. Anyone? Last Contrarian (talk) 23:21, 14 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Don't go by someone else's corroboration. Instead please search for reliable sources to cite this aspect in the article. My two cents. Mspraveen (talk) 11:32, 31 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The episode is a reliable source, if only I can find it. Unfortunately, it is not available on Zoom TV's YouTube channel. Last Contrarian (talk) 17:55, 31 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Found another source. RGV himself. Last Contrarian (talk) 15:24, 17 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The comment(s) below were originally left at Talk:Satya (1998 film)/Comments, and are posted here for posterity. Following several discussions in past years, these subpages are now deprecated. The comments may be irrelevant or outdated; if so, please feel free to remove this section.

Last edited at 10:56, 31 August 2008 (UTC). Substituted at 05:30, 30 April 2016 (UTC)

Hello fellow Wikipedians,

I have just modified one external link on Satya (film). Please take a moment to review my edit. If you have any questions, or need the bot to ignore the links, or the page altogether, please visit this simple FaQ for additional information. I made the following changes:

• Corrected formatting/usage for http://geocities.com/rgv_shiva/rgvfilmreviews.htm

When you have finished reviewing my changes, please set the checked parameter below to true or failed to let others know (documentation at {{Sourcecheck}}).

This message was posted before February 2018. After February 2018, "External links modified" talk page sections are no longer generated or monitored by InternetArchiveBot. No special action is required regarding these talk page notices, other than regular verification using the archive tool instructions below. Editors have permission to delete these "External links modified" talk page sections if they want to de-clutter talk pages, but see the RfC before doing mass systematic removals. This message is updated dynamically through the template {{source check}} (last update: 5 June 2024).

• If you have discovered URLs which were erroneously considered dead by the bot, you can report them with this tool.
• If you found an error with any archives or the URLs themselves, you can fix them with this tool.

Cheers.—^{cyberbot II}_{Talk to my owner:Online} 14:53, 8 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

This review is transcluded from Talk:Satya (1998 film)/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: Jaguar (talk · contribs) 15:13, 26 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Will begin soon. JAGUAR 15:13, 26 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

• " It is the first of Varma's gangster trilogy" - 'Gangster' should be capitalised and italicised since it's the actual name of the trilogy
• " but decided to make a film about criminals after meeting some criminals" - repetition. Try but decided to make a film focusing on felony after meeting some criminals
• "Its early cinematography was by the American Gerard Hooper, who was replaced by Mazhar Kamran" - I'd remove "the American" as it sounds awkward. And what is early cinematography referring to here? Does it mean that Hooper directed the cinematography for the first half of the film or did he originally plan to do the whole film but was replaced later on?

Actually Gerar Hooper could devote enough time to the project and left when it was thirty percent complete. Yashthepunisher (talk) 04:53, 28 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

• "and helped launch a number of careers (especially Kashyap and Bajpayee)" - (especially for Kashyap and Bajpayee)
• "Film critic Rajeev Masand called it one of the "most influential movies of the past ten years", and it inspired several sequels." - this should be split into two sentences. Also, can you list a couple of examples of the inspired sequels?
• I've done a bit of copyediting in the lead and have merged the two last paragraphs into one per WP:LEADLENGTH
• "When they step out for a drink during intermission" - the intermission
• "Satya arrives at Kallu Mama's place" - 'place' sounds a bit informal. 'House' or 'residence' would sound better
• "but Satya insists on going to Vidya's place first" - again
• "Satya was filmed in Mumbai during the monsoon" - 'the monsoon' makes it sound too singular. How about a monsoon or the monsoon season?
• "Varma instructed him to re-shoot it and taught him "how to communicate with the cameraman"" - I'm not sure why this is in quotes. It could read fine without them
• "However, he could devote enough time to the project and left" - could not devote (missing word)
• "and dubbed Telugu- and Tamil-language versions" - stray hyphen after Telugu
• "Satya received an A (adults-only) certificate, with no objections" - no objections from whom? The board reviewing the film?
• " with a 97-percent occupancy rate in its third week" - no need for the hyphen
• "Although Satya is known for its realistic depiction of the underworld" - might be worth specifying this with Indian underworld or probably Mumbai?
• "Satya has achieved cult status, and is cited as one of the best Hindi gangster films for its realistic portrayal of violence; it paved the way for future gangster films" - paving the way for future gangster films

Sounds like a good film! I have watched a few Telugu films in the past and have thoroughly enjoyed them. Sorry for the delay in reviewing this. I've done some copyediting here and there and fixed some of the more minor issues, but other than that this article is solid enough and should meet the GA criteria with some shine. I'll check back once the issues above are clarified. JAGUAR 19:22, 27 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Jaguar, All done. Thanks for your comments. Yashthepunisher (talk) 04:51, 28 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks Yash. I've looked through this article again and it appears to meet the GA criteria. Let's promote this. JAGUAR 19:24, 28 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]