Talk:Members of the Queensland Legislative Assembly, 1883–1888

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At the time of the election, McIlwraith was Premier and Griffith was Opposition Leader. Therefore all the Members you have labelled as Ministerialists were in fact Oppositionists, and vice versa. Constant Pedant (talk) 12:11, 25 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Constant Pedant: The problem is that they didn't have political parties back then, just informal groups of those who would generally support the Premier (who were called the Ministerialists) and those who generally did not support the Premier (who were called the Oppositionists). So any change of Premier could cause individual politicians to flip from being Ministerialists to Oppositionists or vice versa or not change at all. See Ministerialists and Oppositionists (Queensland). So, how we represent this is not straightforward. Having said that, perhaps getting rid of the word "Party" at the top of column and replacing it with something like "Alliance" or "Group" perhaps linking to Ministerialists and Oppositionists (Queensland) might be more helpful. Probably something to discuss as the Aus Politics forum as this would affect many articles and potentially flow over to other states (I know WA also used the terminology of Ministerialists and Oppositionists and it may have been used in other states too). Kerry (talk) 22:10, 1 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]