Talk:JR Chandler

	JR Chandler was a Media and drama good articles nominee, but did not meet the good article criteria at the time. There may be suggestions below for improving the article. Once these issues have been addressed, the article can be renominated. Editors may also seek a reassessment of the decision if they believe there was a mistake.
Article milestones Date Process Result April 22, 2008 Good article nominee Not listed

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Although his legal name is Adam Chandler, Jr, the character goes by "JR". However, as it's referred to on Wikipedia, "J.R.". By using periods after each letter, it implies both the "J" and "R" stand for something, such as John Ross "J.R." Ewing (on Dallas). Therefore, shouldn't the title of this entry simply be "JR Chandler"? Additionally, the official All My Children site list the spelling as "JR" and not "J.R."

Well, on most sites, the periods are present within his nickname. And it's how most editors spell his name here at Wikipedia. I feel that changing it to JR instead of J.R. would be too uncommon for how his name is usually spelled. Some people have periods in their nickname of initials when the initials don't really stand for anything. The periods of his nickname are just another variation of Junior. Flyer22 22:25, 16 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

But wouldn't the spelling on the official site, be considered the most correct, and be the one we were to follow?--KnowsSoaps 22:33, 16 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

It's perplexing, KnowsSoaps, because his name is spelled J.R. so often, even by some soap opera magazines at times. Again, some people's initials really don't stand for anything. I feel that it's best to keep his name at J.R. instead of JR. I'm not sure that my mind will change on that, but you could also talk this over with other editors who work on the soap opera articles often. See the soap opera tag above on this talk page? Well visit the page within that tag's link and try to start up a discussion about this on its talk page, if you really want this discussed further. If you do, I'll join in that discussion and state the same thing that I've stated on this talk page. And more, if the discussion picks up. Flyer22 22:43, 16 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I'm really not trying to make a big deal out of it. The official AMC site lists the name as "JR" as does the show's weekly end credits, which I would believe to be the most accurate source for information. That's why I brought it up.--KnowsSoaps 23:22, 16 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

But that still does not mean that his name cannot be spelled as J.R., that there are not two ways of spelling it. The caption of television screens spells his name as J.R., though some could state that the television's computer chip is only being technical. But I say, if the television is being technical, it should know that, technically, that the periods should not be there. Also, I've looked over a few official All My Children scripts...and though I have never paid much attention to the spelling of his nickname on those scripts, I think that I saw an All My Children script where his name was spelled as J.R., not JR, as well. I know what you mean on this matter, but I really don't feel that there is any way of truly knowing if his nickname has an official spelling...unless we either taik to the show's creator, or the people running the show now, of course. Flyer22 23:36, 16 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I agree there is likely no way for us to know for sure, as it has been displayed both ways on numerous occasions. I am merely suggesting, whether right or wrong, we conform to ABC's spelling as the website and end credits display it, as it is our most accurate source. I did add this as a discussion on the other page as well so it's not just us going back and forth.--KnowsSoaps 23:44, 16 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I basically posted my same responses there. And, again, I understand your concerns on this matter. Flyer22 23:55, 16 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Eh, I finally went ahead and changed the title to JR Chandler. I will now go through every bit of text about this character that spells his name as J.R. on Wikipedia and change it to JR. Flyer22 (talk) 10:42, 24 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I failed this for lack of references. The plot summary is overly long, and there are only four references in the article. If a plot summary is needed, it must be sourced regardless. Also, flowery prose such as "...if there is anything J.R. wants more in the world, it is to always be someone his child can count on. Loyalty extremely important to him, if he is betrayed, he can be deadly. His childhood was difficult and his ruthlessness is an extention of that. Throughout it all, however, he has managed to remain caring and does not give into his inner demons without resistance." is unencyclopedic. The article needs a major overhaul before it can be GA class. Ten Pound Hammer and his otters • ^{(Broken clamshells•Otter chirps)} 13:43, 22 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

...to point out a few things such as the lead, it's like that because fictional character article leads should note the character's personality or history, or both...besides going into detail about who created the character, etc. For examples, see Padme Amidala, Jack Harkness...and others. Although, the current lead is more like my first draft of it. Yes, it needs tweaking. The plot summary? I generally don't feel that plot summaries should be sourced since the television show or film itself is the reference. Good or Featured articles such as Titanic (1997 film) and Halloween (1978 film) are examples. I realize, though, that since soap opera episodes are harder to come by after they air, it makes more sense for their plot summaries to be referenced. Also, soap opera plots tend to be longer due to airing new episodes five times a week. Just look at the featured article Pauline Fowler.

But, yes, this article isn't GA yet. Flyer22 (talk) 06:46, 25 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I just tweaked the lead of this article, and will fix up this article in a few more ways later. But I hope that no one nominates this article again for GA status any time soon, until it is significantly fixed up. Flyer22 (talk) 22:08, 23 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

JR and Babe "supposedly married" in the chapel right before her death, but would that actually be counted as a legal marriage. I see it is listed under spouses that he married her in 2008 and it was dissolved by her death, however, they didn't really marry. Their was no minister nor witnesses, right?! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.247.21.109 (talk) 00:50, 15 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, it should not legally count and has already been removed. Flyer22 (talk) 08:08, 7 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Ok I Undid The Vandel I fond this cause I wach David Hayward.. Methinks ya'll need to wach this "Lynn" Chic --Jena I LOVE ANTHONY FIELD! (talk) 18:41, 5 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Definitely watching out for that vandal. Flyer22 (talk) 08:08, 7 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The storyline was copied at the creation of this article from soapcentral ([1]). Over the years, both sites have been edited, but what remains runs the risk of being a derivative work. Assistance from editors interested in the subject writing a new storyline free of these concerns would be greatly appreciated. --Moonriddengirl ^(talk) 13:50, 1 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]