Talk:Henichesk Strait

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This article contains a translation of Генический пролив from ru.wikipedia.

An editor is wanting to remove this article from Category:Straits of Crimea and is insisting. I've reverted her twice per WP:BRD so I've got five fouls, but it's now incumbent upon the editor to come here and make her case (actually, it was incumbent on her after the first revert, but now it certainly is).

Geographically, the strait separates the Crimea from the Ukrainian mainland. This is a fact on which everyone agrees, I think. It is not entirely in the Crimea but it defines one of the edges of the Crimea, so it's "of the Crimea" IMO. Anyway I don't think that the editor is wanting to remove the category on those grounds (that border features are not "of" any place) but rather the political borders.

On a purely political level, the political entity called Republic of Crimea (or whatever the various sides call it) doesn't include this strait, since it happens to be entirely within the border of Ukraine. This doesn't matter much IMO. This is essentially a geographical category. Whatever happens to Crimea politically -- it breaks into tiny states, it rejoins the Ukraine so that there is again no de jure or de facto national political boundary between it and the Ukraine, it is reconquered by the Turks, it becomes the 51st American State, whatever -- the Henichesk Strait will continue to be one of its geographical borders (unless the landforms change) and therefore belong in this category. That's my take on the matter. Herostratus (talk) 14:58, 24 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]