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Additional Early History

Would like to add something to indicate that their first show was on July 7, 2007, at the California Institute of Abnormal Arts, a clown museum.^[1] This information is from their interview on the Graham Norton Show,^[2] shortly before the release of their "Something to Tell You" album in July of 2017.

I'll let someone else come up with the wording and positioning in the article.-Rubiks6 (talk) 17:50, 8 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Performance for the 2021 Grammy Awards

Should it be added that they performed on the 2021 Grammy Awards? 173.88.246.138 (talk) 00:18, 15 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Split out Alana Haim?

Currently, Alana Haim redirects to this article, but as she is one of the lead actors in the upcoming film, Licorice Pizza, she should probably get her own article, separate from the band. Orayzio (talk) 20:45, 27 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I'd suggest all three members get their own articles.--Mike Selinker (talk) 21:13, 17 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Style; Lack of Citation; Opinion; Obfuscation;

In support of and as noted by Ritchie333^(talk) this page does not adhere to good article criteria in either form or substance:

Although we know from citation the band considers their name to be styled HAIM specifically in ALL CAPS, as cited on Apple Music ^[3]; Amazon Music ^[4]; and Spotify ^[5]; and should be corrected;
Introduction citations from body should be referenced for Producer / Label-Signing references and many other claims made in the Introduction which I will systematically enumerate if my concerns gain traction;
The entire historical summary in the Introduction lacks citation or objectivity;
Apparent opinion of HAIM′s 'sound' in the first paragraph of Introduction i.e. lack of citation;
In the Critical Reception section there is a cyclic reference to the Awards section — this is improper as awards panelists are often industry personæ, and not critics or even critically-purposed individuals; e.g. unfit content for this section as it implies potential obfuscation of cited critics.

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Kirk H — --splurben (talk) 02:54, 4 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 4 December 2022

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: Not moved Consensus is clear that the proposed move is not covered by MOS:ALLCAPS, and should not be moved. Closing early per WP:SNOW. --Jayron 32 13:43, 6 December 2022 (UTC) Jayron 32 13:43, 6 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Haim (band) → HAIM (band) – accurate to stylistic intent and usage for band's name on Apple Music, Spotify, and Amazon Music as well as all their album covers splurben (talk) 04:35, 4 December 2022 (UTC) This is a contested technical request (permalink). — Amakuru (talk) 13:10, 4 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Copied from WP:RM/TR:
- @EchidnaLives: This is not uncontroversial. This is contrary to the guidance at MOS:TM and not in keeping with how the band's name is written in the New York Times and most reliable sources. Paul Erik ^{(talk)(contribs)} 05:24, 4 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@Paul Erik: I have undone the move and moved the request here. echidnaLives - talk - edits 05:28, 4 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@EchidnaLives: Apparently we edit conflicted in the page move, because you moved it back to all caps. —C.Fred (talk) 05:31, 4 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose per WP:Manual of Style and per the New York Times other sources that reduce the name to title case. All caps is reserved for initialisms and acronyms; there is no evidence this name is either. —C.Fred (talk) 14:25, 4 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose per arguments of C.Fred. We don't adopt all-caps styling except for acronyms. It's a marketing gimmick. Skyerise (talk) 15:09, 4 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose. Haim is not an acronym. Shwcz (talk) 15:58, 4 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose, MOS:ALLCAPS. 162 etc. (talk) 17:30, 4 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose: MOS:ALLCAPS clearly applies here. mediafanatic17 talk 17:47, 4 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose per MOS:ALLCAPS—blindlynx 20:57, 4 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose although it is used in the web title the logo (which is often the only place all caps is used) isn't even in all caps and a quick look through the website doesn't easily find how the band calls its self in running text. Crouch, Swale (talk) 21:57, 4 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose, most RSes use the non-stylized Haim. --Shivertimbers433 (talk) 01:25, 5 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose per MOS:TM and MOS:ALLCAPS. The band's name is not an acronym, and WP does not mimic "marking capitalization" in logos. Cf. our article Sony, which is not at SONY (a redirect). — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ 😼 07:16, 6 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

[1] ttp://www.californiacuriosities.com/the-california-institute-of-abnormal-arts/

[2] ttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WKdDkBxQM1Q?t=73

[3] ttps://music.apple.com/us/artist/haim/164483115

[4] ttps://www.amazon.com/HAIM/e/B009S3CXDM

[5] ttps://open.spotify.com/artist/4Ui2kfOqGujY81UcPrb5KE

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