Talk:Bhubaneswar

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This article is substantially duplicated by a piece in an external publication. Since the external publication copied Wikipedia rather than the reverse, please do not flag this article as a copyright violation of the following source: History of Bhubaneswar, Date of publication ca. 2011 {{citation}}: Check date values in: |date= (help) Additional comments The earliest archive of this page dates to August 2011 ([1]), but as archives are not always immediate and pages can be moved from one location to another, this isn't necessarily proof that it was they copying us. However, there is evidence of natural evolution here. For instance, the external site says, "Modern Bhubaneswar was originally planned by Otto Königsberger to be a well planned city with wide roads and many gardens andparks. Though part of the city has stayed faithful to the plan, it has grown rapidly over the last few decades and has made the planning process unwieldy." We see this content beginning to develop in our article as early as 9 July 2004, when the first edit says, "The city is a properly planned city with wide roads and lot of gardens and plantations." We see natural evolution of this content throughout the article's history to reach its current state: 11/2005 and 9/2009 document a couple of significant changes. All evidence suggests that the material evolved here and was copied by them, and we should not remove it pending strong reasons to believe otherwise. --Moonriddengirl (talk) 14:36, 28 February 2013 (UTC) Further, this diff 8 July 2009 shows that significant part of the impugned text exists on Wikipedia much before the website was launched on 1 September 2009[2]. As regarding other parts of the text, whose origin cannot be traced as to who had first incorporated the text, after a copedit the current version 28 February 2013 looks at max like a close paraphrase in most cases and nothing else. In the proved text, there is clear evidence that they have copied, and the material suggest that it has evolved here, the presumption should be that they have copied, if no evidence proving it otherwise is provided. Amartyabag TALK2ME 20:42, 28 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I have begun cleaning up this article extensively. There were many unnecessary parts to it, and they should not be added again. In addition, the tone of this article is hardly enyclopaedic. Please refrain from writing this as if it were to be read from a touristy handbook. I understand there may be important information that has been left out. Please do not hesitate to add it where it is needed, but please use utmost discretion. Abhishek 17:08, 18 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Excellent work! I am doing the same thing with the Odisha article. I think Ekamra Kanan should be added to the list of tourist attractions. I have some beautiful pics of Ekamra kanan and some other parts of BBSR that I will upload within a day or two. SDas 19:06, 18 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Again, please refrain from adding unnecessary educational institutions to this page. If you would like to help on this page, start by editing the tone of the article. It currently reads like a tourists guide, not an encyclopedia. If you feel that your institute of education is of note, make an article about it, and link to it in this article. Thanks. Abhishek 13:37, 22 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I did my bit. Heavy cutting down of flowery language. If someone feels this has led to information loss, have included the deleted lines below for easy reference. Will come back for more in sometime

Bhubaneswar is associated with cluster of magnificent temples, almost constituting a complete record of Kalinga architecture from its nacency to its culmination. Its unique sculptural and architectural heritage, coupled with sanctity as Ekamrakshetra one of the five great religious centers of Orissa since early mediaeval days.[1]

Its antiqury remain both that carry us back to the dawn of dated history and bring us down to the last days of Hindu supremacy in Orissa.<ref>R. P. Mohapatra, ''Archaeology in Orissa'', Vol I, Page 47, B. R. Publishing Corporation, Delhi, 1986, ISBN 81-7018-346-4</ref>.

Having merged its intriguing past so uniquely with its modern aspirations,

However Bhubaneswar is famous for its cool and refreshing evening breeze. Even on the hottest of summer days, evenings tend to be nice and pleasant thanks mainly to this evening breeze.

Higher Technical Education is also a big market.

The large density has earned the city the sobriquet of "[[Kota]] of the East".
Malls with a wide array of branded stores and foodcourts have changed the way the city shops.


he National Highway 5, connecting Kolkata and Chennai passes through the city and is one of India's premier highways being part of the 'Golden Quadrilateral' network.The National Highway 60, connecting Balasore to Kolkata.

including Guwahati, Dibrugarh,Jamshedpur Durgapur, Ranchi, Bokaro, Gaya, Patna, Muzaffarpur, Varanasi, Allahabad, Lucknow, Kanpur, Agra, Mathura, Haridwar, Panipat, Patiala, Ludhiana, Amritsar, Jodhpur, Jaipur, Kota, Gwalior, Jhansi, Bhopal, Ujjain, Bilaspur, Raipur, Ahmedabad, Surat, Gandhinagar, Vadodara, Mumbai, Pune, Nagpur, Hyderabad, Warangal, Tirupati, Hubli, Goa, Bangalore, Coimbatore, Trichy, Madurai, Pondicherry, Ernakulam, Thiruvananthapuram andKanyakumari.
Bhubaneswar has grown to be a melting pot of various cultures. 

South Indians(especially Telugus)

The Kalinga Stadium at the heart of the city forms the focal point of sports activities in Bhubaneswar. It has excellent facilities for athletics,football, hockey, basketball, tennis, table tennis. There is also a olpympic standard swimming pool within the Kalinga Stadium compound. The newly constructed Railway Cricket Stadium is supposed to be the biggest in Eastern India with radius of 81 mtrs. The second phase of construction is on with galleries modelled along stadiums in New Zealand. It hosted its first Ranji Trophy match in November



Situated inside the info city, it is surrounded on one side by country’s leading IT companies and stretches of forests and hillocks on the other side giving one of the most picturesque views from the pavilion of the club house

and added it to WP: Cities --Srath12345 (talk) 02:24, 22 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia is NOT for promotional purposes. Kindly stop bumping Kalinga Institute of Industrial Tech (KIIT) to the top of the list of educational institutions. Earlier I had noticed that it was even written in upper case letters so that it stands out from the rest.

NIS is of national importance, and that is why I put is back in the top.

Originally at Talk:Bhubaneswar, Orissa state's capital city

Bhubaneswar is the state capital of Orissa in eastern India. Now there have been many ocassions of misspelling teh word, by adding an h, and it is understandable given the varied and many languages in India and thus for varied pronounciation. In anycase, the offcial name is Bhubaneswar.

This article has been renamed as the result of a move request. violet/riga (t) 19:04, 30 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Google returns 16.5 million results for Bhubaneswar and 19.8 million for Bhubaneshwar. The difference was even greater between "Bhubaneswar tourism" and "Bhubaneshwar tourism": 948 to 5,570. And the variation is not just between people with different languages or pronunciations: both spellings each occur more than once on the same page at http://www.tourism-of-india.com/bhubaneswar.html for example. Does Wikipedia have a policy about whether to use the commonest spelling of a name or the "official" spelling? One advantage of the former as a criterion is that it is objective and easily evaluated. --Vaughan Pratt (talk) 07:30, 29 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Ref 22 Author-Praharaj, Maharani tobe edited as Praharaj, Mayarani Mayapraharaj (talk) 05:47, 17 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

• Colleges, universities, institutions are SUB-SECTIONS, not individual sections.
• Please do not list the same college three or four times under different redundant headings
• Having a notable section separately and listing only a few colleges is POV
• Subsections for colleges read like advertisements. Also they are unnecessary and expanded the article to great lengths. Information on individual colleges should be on the COLLEGE wiki-page.
• External links should be at the end of the article in footnotes, notes, see also, or external links sections NOT in the middle of the page.
• PLEASE DO NOT BUMP YOUR OWN SCHOOL OR UNIVERSITY UP. I am Oriya myself and I want to see this page get featured someday but it will take hard-work not a desire to boast and publicize.

Thanks. --A. Mahapatra 17:29, 3 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Note: {{WP India}} Project Banner with Orissa workgroup parameters was added to this article talk page because the article falls under Category:Orissa or its subcategories. Should you feel this addition is inappropriate , please undo my changes and update/remove the relavent categories to the article -- Amartyabag ^TALK2ME 07:36, 3 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

KINDLY VISIT THESE SITES AND DECIDE ON MERIT.

I CAN GIVE YOU ORIGINAL FULL PAPERS THAT WERE PUBLISHED BY THE INDIAN ACADEMY OF SCIENCES

TOKEN EXAMPLE -

1 - http://www.grahamhancock.com/forum/DBhattacharya5.php

2 - http://www.grahamhancock.com/forum/DBhattacharya5.php

3 - Urbanisation process in Orissa evolved at Geostrategic locations, India , Kataka , Kalinga , Mahanadi, Garah- Kataka Concept —Preceding unsigned comment added by 59.93.129.89 (talk) 04:32, 23 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

This article has become a bit of a mess. The education/hospital/economy sections are constantly getting extended with more and more examples, turning them into laundry lists with nothing useful to say; they're also pumped full of peacock terms like 'world class', 'prestigious', etc. As with the parent article, Odisha, these can be moved out into list pages (which already exist - see List of educational institutions in Orissa, etc).

A second problem is the pastes of unsourced 'announcements' and 'plans'. eg "Infosys is a planning a second IT park near Khandagiri", "Golf Club with a 9 hole course and a plan to develop ...", "Ayush Hospital and Trauma Care Limited has drawn up a plan to set up its second multi-speciality hospital" etc. This is just cruft and needs cut.

There's also problems with grammar, and over- and under- linking, in particular of abbreviations and terms that would not be globally understood. eg the Politics and Environment sections between them have one link - to India.

I'll address some of this over the next few days. Bazzargh (talk) 11:36, 17 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

When I click "show" for the codes, I get the following output:

• 751 0xx

Pincode

• +0674

Telephone

After initial confusion (including what label goes with what line), I discovered that Pincode is India's postal code. And why does + appear for Telephone? "+" is used elsewhere for the international access code; however, I take it that 0674 is shown here with that leading 0 which I have seen used for calls within several countries (outside of +1, which is the country code for U.S., Canada, and some Caribbean countries).

I have capitalized the term "peace pagoda and deleted the quotation marks. I added a link to the Peace Pagoda page, which is being updated. Shanti Stupa is a translation of Peace Pagoda, and means the same thing. Thank you, --Marilyn 14:22, 30 September 2012 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mlangfeld (talk • contribs)

I have planned a major cleanup of the Bhubaneswar page in near future. The following thing is in my mind and will like to share with the major editors for their comments.

• The Economy' section is totally unsourced. Certain statements like "Some of the populace live in slums. Migration from rural areas, especially from the northern districts of Andhra Pradesh, has led to the growth of slums which are a major challenge to the city's growth. " seems outright biased and need reliable sources. Regarding Retail sector and malls, its totally unnessary to have the names of malls and retail outlets in an encylopedia, its not a travel and toursim brochure. Only PSU organisations which have a headquarter/registered office in Bhubaneswar will be added. Regarding IT/ITES sector, the setences must flow into a prose and not a laundry list of companies present in Bhubaneswar. -  Removed promos and laundry lists.  Done

• The Transport section need to be written in a WP:SUMMARY manner, avoiding details and laundry list of cities it is connected with.  Done

• Demographics section has outdated information and needs to be expanded.  Done

• I find the Architecture section to be unnessary and may be merged with a new section Urban structure, which is more common. -   Y Merger complete. Removed and merged

• Regarding Education section, as found from earlier discussions, it is the most debated section and often the additions are reverted. It is essential to frame a guideline regarding the addition of names. Primarily, I have thought of this criteria Only universities, institutes of national importances, institutes granted "Centre of Excellence" status by the University Grants Commission or institutes which have significantly wellknown status, and such recognisation must be verifiable from reliable sources will be added. In addition the institue must have a separate Wikipedia page and the addition the names should be added in such a manner that it should not look like a laundry list, rather it should flow into a prose.  Doing...

I will be happy if some one takes up the pain to rewrite this section to avoid COI. This issue has been raised earlier in the talk page. Amartyabag ^TALK2ME 14:50, 29 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Shortened the list. Still need independent review. Amartyabag ^TALK2ME 10:41, 20 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

• Bhubaneswar–Cuttack Police Commissionerate section need to be deleted and a new section on Government and civic administration need to be created.  Done

• The whole culture section need to be reduced in a summary manner and the sports section need to be merged. -   Y Merger complete. and removed unnecessary information

ω Awaiting more information from brainstorming. Amartyabag ^TALK2ME 14:50, 29 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

• The Healthcare section need to be in a encylopedic manner and not just a laundry list.  Removed  Done

General referencing and other copyedit need to be made to make the page encylopedic. Amartyabag ^TALK2ME 04:20, 26 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

In the first stage, I will be removing unnessary details and unencyclopedic statements.  Done The second stage will constitute addition of necessary and missing sections and informations with proper referencing. The third stage will constitute addition of proper references to the unsourced statements. The fourth stage can be proper copyediting of the article. Amartyabag ^TALK2ME 05:37, 26 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Update Have updated most of the sections with proper references. History, Culture, Education and Demographics section need to be worked on. Developing the culture section need brainstorming for content addition. Suggestions awaited. Amartyabag ^TALK2ME 14:50, 29 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

As requested, I have started a copy edit of the article. I have done a brief run through the Introduction and History sections, and fixed the most obvious problems, but some remain, and the meaning is not always obvious. I have converted the text where necessary to British English, which is close to standard Indian English, but when the copy edit is complete it is probably worth asking Ohconfucius to run his national varieties script over the article to check if there are any unresolved issues. Any specific differences from Indian English can then be fixed after the script run (one that springs to mind is that Indian English uses kilometres (with conversion to miles), whereas British English uses miles (with conversion to kilometres)). I will list specific problems that are unresolved here. Skinsmoke (talk) 13:02, 24 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Introduction

• The city has a history of over 3,000 years... Do we mean the city has a recorded history? Can we provide evidence of it being recorded. Or do we mean there is architectural evidence? Technically, its history goes back to the begining of time.
• ...which had its capital at Sisupalgarh, near present-day Bhubaneswar. Is Sisupalgarh near Bhubaneswar or is it within the city boundaries? If the geographic coordinates are correct, Wikimapia seems to suggest it is within the boundaries.

Sisupalgarh is outside the official Municiapal limits, but within Bhubaneswar Development Area, in the outskirts of Bhubaneswar will be technically correct. Amartyabag ^TALK2ME 12:00, 20 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

• It is the largest city in Odisha, and a centre of economic and religious importance in the region. Which region? Do we mean in the state? If not, we need to define which region.

Eastern India. Changed Amartyabag ^TALK2ME 12:00, 20 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

• Magnificent sculptures and the city's architectural heritage, coupled with the sanctity as Ekamrakshetra have made this one of the great religious centres of Odisha since early medieval days. Who says the sculptures are magnificent? Is this a formal designation, or has someone used this description. If not it is puffery, and needs to be removed. What does coupled with the sancity as Ekamrakshetra mean?

This seems like puffery as mentioned. removed as the sentence seems more redundant. Amartyabag ^TALK2ME 12:00, 20 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

• and is one of the cleanest and greenest cities in India. The statement needs to be cited, as it is making a claim that could be challenged. If it was mentioned elsewhere in the article, then it would not need to be cited in the Introduction, but there appears to be no other mention.

Removed the sentence as no verifiable sources can be traced. May be we can add a line on well planned roads and infrastructure development instead. Amartyabag ^TALK2ME 12:00, 20 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

• An emerging Information Technology (IT) hub, and the boom in the metals and metal processing industries have made it one of the fastest developing cities of India in recent years. How do we know that these two aspects have resulted in its rapid growth? We need a citation to verify that the city is one of the fastest developing in India (again, OK if there was one elsewhere in the article, but there isn't). How do we know its growth can be attrributed to information technology or the metal processing industry? Could equal claims not be made for tourism, or the fact it developed as an administrative capital of the state?

Rewrote the sentence. Reference for emerging and growth in the IT sector can be found in the Economy section. May be you can come up with a much better sentence. A proper summary of the article may be added in the intro. Amartyabag ^TALK2ME 12:00, 20 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

History

• The history of Bhubaneswar may be viewed in two phases: ancient Bhubaneswar and modern Bhubaneswar. Why? What happened in between? Does this explain why there is an 800 year gap in the timeline in this section? Did nothing at all of significance happen during that missing period?
• The first mention of Bhubaneswar in Indian history... First mention by whom?
• which took place near Dhauli (presently located in the south of the city)... Looking at Wikimapia, it appears that Dhauli is outside the city boundaries.

Yes its outside the Municipal boundary on the southern outskirts. Amartyabag ^TALK2ME 12:00, 20 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

• The later Emperor Kharavela established his capital at Sisupalgarh, on the outskirts of the modern city How much later? As noted above, Sisupalgarh appears to be within the boundaries.
• ...at the Udayagiri and Khandagiri Caves by Kharavela... What does this mean?

The inscriptions were made by Emperor Kharavela Amartyabag ^TALK2ME 12:00, 20 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

• Many temples built throughout the ancient and medieval periods provide a chronicle of the city's history. In what way do they provide a chronicle?
• The Ananta Vasudeva Temple and Bindusagar Tank in the only temple of Vishnu in the city. The sentence never completes, rendering it meaningless. What was intended?
• The temples in Bhubaneswar are regarded as having been built from the 8th to 12th centuries under Shaiva influence Regarded by whom?
• ...it has grown rapidly over the last few decades which has made the planning process unwieldy Which decades? That the planning process is unwieldy should be attributed to the person giving this opinion, not stated as fact.

As I have not worked much on the history section, I need to do a bit of research before addressing all your concerns. Amartyabag ^TALK2ME 12:00, 20 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Understood. I'll try and have a look at another couple of sections later tonight. Are you happy with the way I'm doing it?

Thanks for this detailed review. I will surely try to address your concerns in the other sections more promptly as I have worked on them. Amartyabag ^TALK2ME 18:17, 20 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Take all the time you want. It's me doing a favour for you, not the other way round. You are free to act on any suggestions I make, or not—it's entirely up to you. I may even be wrong, or have missed something obvious that means you disagree with something I put here. Don't worry about it, I won't get upset. But if there is anything, just pop a note, so I can see what's happening. I just thought that anything I picked up could help avoid problems in a formal review later. Today's been a bit hectic (to say the least), so I'm not moving as fast as I would like, but I'll try and snatch an hour or so to have a look at another section later tonight, if I can. Skinsmoke (talk) 18:04, 21 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Geography

• ...and forms the northern boundary of Bhubaneswar metropolitan area. As has already been picked up on the edit page, what does?

Mahanadi river around the northern border of Bhubaneswar breaks into two rivers (Mahanadi and Kathjodi), and after a very short distance the Kathjodi river breaks into Kuakhai river. Kathjodi river actually forms the northern boundary, which constitutes a part of the delta system. Amartyabag ^TALK2ME 11:25, 25 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

• The Kanjia lake on the northern outskirts, with its rich biodiversity, is a wetland of national importance and helpful for maintaining the city's ecology. How does it do this?

The source does not mention about maintenance of city's ecology. Must be deleted. Amartyabag ^TALK2ME 11:25, 25 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

• Floods and water-logging in the low-lying areas have become common due to unplanned growth of the city. Floods are not caused by unplanned growth, they are caused by rainfall and exacerbated by drainage problems. I know what is meant here, but it needs rewording (maybe go back to see what the source says?)

poor drainage system resulting due to the unplanned growth of the city. Amartyabag ^TALK2ME 11:25, 25 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Urban structure

• Rajpath a major thoroughfare at night. Is it not also a major thoroughfare during the day?

The picture is at night. Amartyabag ^TALK2ME 11:25, 25 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

• Hahahaha, I really like this one :p--Dwaipayan (talk) 16:20, 25 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

• The Bhubaneswar urban development area consists of the Bhubaneswar Municipal Corporation area, 173 revenue villages, and two more municipalities spread over 393.57 square kilometres (151.96 sq mi). Which two additional municipalities?

Khurda and Jatni Municipality Amartyabag ^TALK2ME 11:25, 25 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

• The city is somewhat dumble shaped... What the hell is that?
• The north–south axis of the city is widest, at roughly 22.5 kilometres (14.0 mi). Widest of what? What does this figure compare with? Have we got an east–west measurement?
• Growth in the east is restricted due to the presence of Kuakhai river, and by wildlife sanctuary in the north western part. How can growth in the east be restricted by a wildlife sanctuary in the north west?

Kuakhai river is in east and wildlife sanctuary in the north-western part Amartyabag ^TALK2ME 11:25, 25 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

• The city can be broadly divided into the old town, planned city (or state capital), added areas and outer peripheral areas. What are "added areas"? What is the difference between these four categories. Why is this division significant (if it is)?
• The city is subdivided into Units and Colonies. What are these? How many? What function do they serve?

Units are official name given to each neighbourhoods (clarified in the next para related to planned city). Colonies are more like model apartment complexes, there are lots of BDA colonies in the city. Amartyabag ^TALK2ME 11:41, 25 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

• ...Unit V houses the administrative buildings, including the State Secretariat, State Assembly, and the Rajbhavan. What is the "Rajbhavan"?

Rajbhavan is the official residence of the Governor of the state. Generally in all the States in India, it is named the same. Raj literally means King and Bhavan means House. I have linked it to the article. Amartyabag ^TALK2ME 11:41, 25 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

• The added areas are mostly areas lying north of National Highway 5, including Nayapalli, Jayadev Vihar, Rail Vihar, Chandrasekharpur and Sailashree Vihar, which were developed developed by Bhubaneswar Development Authority to house the growing population. Is that all there is to say about them? How do they differ from the earlier planned areas? When were they developed?

They were developed in 1980s-90s. The earlier planned areas houses mostly government officials, the newer one are mostly developed for private housing.Amartyabag ^TALK2ME 05:24, 5 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

• The peripheral areas are neighbourhoods outside the Municipal boundary We have already been told the "city" is divided into four zones. Now we are being told that one of these zones is not in the "city". Either the "city" is divided into the zones, in which case parts of this particular zone are not relevant, or the "urban area" is divided into the zones.
• Most of these areas were developed in a haphazard manner, without any proper planning. What problems does this cause? Why is this significant?

Inadequate drainage, sewerage, asymmetrical narrow roads are the major concern. Amartyabag ^TALK2ME 05:24, 5 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

• There are far too many red links in this section. Some could probably have the wikilink removed, as there is never likely to be an article on them, but most would benefit from stubs being created.

I will work on the stubs. I am already creating new articles based on the redlinks present in this article. Amartyabag ^TALK2ME 11:41, 25 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Climate

• The highest recorded temperature is 45 °C (113.0 °F), and the lowest is 12 °C (54 °F). When were these recorded?

The source is unclear and states the data is just of two years. Amartyabag ^TALK2ME 05:24, 5 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

The comment(s) below were originally left at Talk:Bhubaneswar/Comments, and are posted here for posterity. Following several discussions in past years, these subpages are now deprecated. The comments may be irrelevant or outdated; if so, please feel free to remove this section.

Last edited at 09:06, 26 October 2006 (UTC). Substituted at 09:35, 29 April 2016 (UTC)

The Wikipedia Policy WP:INDICSCRIPT specifically states that there is a prohibition of Indic scripts in lead sentence of an article and infoboxes. There is no such prohibition stated regarding the rest of the body of the article and sub-headings. Hence, using Indic scripts in parts apart from the lead sentence of an article and infoboxes is NOT against any Wikipedia policy. Unnecessary removal would be considered as vandalism.

Regardless of what the guideline might say, it has been common practice not to include scripts in lead sections even before the recent changes. I'm not sure if the problem is a poor phrasing resulting from the recent changes to the guideline but, regardless, gaming the system in this way is not A Good Thing. There is no need for scripts, period, and if necessary I will seek local consensus here on this article to that end. That includes the body. They add nothing of use to most readers, they often require browser plug-ins, they are targets for vandalism and they are difficult to maintain. If anyone wants to see the native name, they need only go to the equivalent article on Telugu/Tamil/Hindi etc Wikipedia, which is the one thing for which Wikidata is useful (it provides interwiki links in the menu on the left). - Sitush (talk) 15:29, 16 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Furthermore, this is the English Wikipedia, and such additions are simply unnecessary anywhere in the article - Arjayay (talk) 09:42, 17 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Ref no. 22 Author name Praharaj,Maharani tobe corrected as Praharaj,Mayarani — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mayapraharaj (talk • contribs) 10:04, 17 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Rohitpattnaik (talk) 11:41, 23 October 2017 (UTC)Rohitpattnaik[reply]

Hi Arjayay,

I saw that you have undone certain edit which i made on the History part of the article. It is absolutely in line with the Spirit of portraying Bhubaneswar in the true Glory and the history it holds.

"Dhauli, On the banks of river Daya"

"The war led to gruesome destruction and numerous deaths, enough to turn Daya nadi red with blood. The impact on Emperor Ashoka after witnessing the carnage and the blood bath was such that he took to Buddhism and became an ardent and public supporter of the religion. This was an iconic war which can be directly associated with the rise and spread of Buddhism throughout the Mauryan empire and into neighboring lands such as Central Asia. The local folklore describes the War as the one which prevented many further wars by transforming Chandashoka into Dharmashoka (Literally Meaning the Transformation of the Devil into an Angelic and pious figure)"

This is Authentic Information and I have put the Source for that^{[1] [2]}.

Also this is an information which i am very familiar with from Inscriptions at Dhauli Shanti Stupa as well as literature books taught in schools. (I am a resident of Bhubaneswar)

So i would like to know the reason why you have chosen to undo the same stating "unsourced additions".

Thanks and Regards, Rohit

Rohitpattnaik - I found your post by accident. If you wish to attract an editors attention, please use one of the methods explained at WP:Notification, and please make sure you sign all your posts on talk pages with 4 tildes ( ~~~~ ) which will add your signature and a timestamp. The signature needs to be added in the same edit as the "ping" for the notification to work.

This was the edit I reverted. I put "Rv unsourced additions" because - as is patently clear - the additions were unsourced.
I don't know where you think you "put the Source for that ^[3]" as you claim above, as it clearly is not there. However, even if you had included that link, it would still have been totally unacceptable, as Wikipedia is not a reliable source, so cannot be used as a reference.

Please note, we have no interest whatsoever in what you are "familiar with", what you were "taught in school", where you come from, or who you are. We are only interested in what has already been stated in reliable, independent, sources, which need to be cited, using proper references, in the relevant place{s) in the text.

In particular please try to understand we are NOT here to portray "Bhubaneswar in the true Glory and the history it holds." as that is patently not the WP:Neutral point of view that we require, whilst your emotional language, such as "gruesome destruction", is not the Encyclopedic language that we require in our articles. - Arjayay (talk) 12:33, 23 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I have now also looked at your additions to the education section and reduced large amounts of promotional puffery, which is entirely unsuitable for any of our articles. The schools/colleges listed have their own articles, which is where any detail, such as ranking and grades, should be. We particularly Avoid academic boosterism in our articles.
It appears you are trying to "promote" Bhubaneswar, which is not the Neutral point of view, that we require editors to use. If you are so keen on Bhubaneswar that you cannot edit the article without making promotional additions, and using inappropriate language, it might be better if you edited in other areas of the encyclopedia. - Arjayay (talk) 13:07, 23 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Arjayay Thanks for your remark. I understand that the articles "Must" be neutral and hence accept the edits done on the "Education sub part" Removing the Rankings, which i had put with the intention of authenticating the claims to quality. I havent studied in any of those institutions and hence was not trying to promote or be boisterous about them.

However, My inspiration to Edit this document came from my discovery that it still looks like a very uninteresting and incomplete article in front of the articles of many other Cities (eg. Madrid)^[4]. In my view; and if you go by the meaning of an Encyclopedia; an Encyclopedic article should be "giving information on many subjects or on many aspects" about the Subject. And the History section is incomplete without the mention of the "bloody" History that surrounds the area. You may be right in classifying the word "Gruesome Destruction" un-Encyclopedic, but there was massive destruction which changed Ashoka's outlook of the world and his moral principles. I will have to find a better representation and more acceptable Citations for this. It would be naive of you if you thought I was here to promote my City. I would have opened a blog if i wanted that.

However, I am glad that you pointed out the pitfalls. With all due respect I would continue to try and improve this article.

Rohitpattnaik

Does anyone else think that there are far too many images in this article? We have {{Commonscat}} and Wikipedia is not Flickr. I'm quite concerned about the copyright status of some of them also, eg: the tourist map is claimed to be "own work". - Sitush (talk) 05:40, 21 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I have begun to prune them. It is ridiculous. - Sitush (talk) 14:28, 5 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Agreed. Will prune some from the infobox.SovalValtos (talk) 10:16, 24 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Huh?

It is quite common for cities to have multiple images.

The infobox had always 8 images

I think I am sounding like a hypocrites. Sertyt (talk) 11:08, 24 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Please read Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Lead section and gain consensus before adding more images to the infobox. No images that are not technically well-produced should be considered.SovalValtos (talk) 11:58, 24 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]