Talk:1997 Heath High School shooting

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James v. Meow Media was nominated for deletion. The discussion was closed on 15 October 2009 with a consensus to merge. Its contents were merged into 1997 Heath High School shooting. The original page is now a redirect to this page. For the contribution history and old versions of the redirected article, please see its history; for its talk page, see here.

This page needs details on the resulting lawsuits, one of which involved infamous lawyer Jack Thompson representing the mothers of slain victicms against the makers of the moive Basketball diaries, which they claimed in part caused the shootings (despite it being unclear as to whether this movie was seen by the shooter).

Should someone put something up about his recent competency hearing? http://www.kycases.com/2006/06/criminal_compet.html TheEasterBunny 21:41, 22 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Shelley Schaberg, 17 at the time, was described by the principal as the school’s best female athlete. Voted Miss Heath High School by the senior class, Shelley was homecoming queen.

This isn't particularly clear. Was she voted MHHH and homecoming queen before or after the incident? Nil Einne 11:10, 10 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

This video was just featured up on youtube with one of the victims, appears to be Melissa Jenkins, as she talks about being paralyzed from the waist down... thought it was worth a mention, if anyone wants to find a way to work it into the article:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=bmSpj9z4S0Q

--Recoil42 20:50, 22 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I've heard that he had expressed remorse for his actions, but there is no information on that here. Does anyone know if that's true? Mhmaudling 19:29, 4 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I added the no reference tag to this area, this is some pretty important information that is included and it is not sourced. That area is full of info that makes you feel sympathetic about the culprit and should be cited, or deleted. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.81.104.124 (talk) 22:44, 19 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

What is the date of birth of Michael Carneal? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Australiaaz (talk • contribs) 20:49, 12 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The info in the Sentencing section (which, btw, has no supporting citation) contradicts the info about the outcome of the trial in the Prosecution (which does have a linked citation, but the link has gone stale by now). Better to just delete the Sentencing section, if the facts given in Prosecution can be re-verified?? (It's also out of order chronologically to mention the sentencing before prosecution - so second best would be to merge Prosecution and Sentencing.)

Does anyone care to verify the facts and smooth this out? Rousse (talk) 19:21, 19 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

How did he get his weapons? Did someone buy them for him, or did he steal them? If so, from whom? That's a relevant social/public policy issue. For example, some states require gun owners to keep their weapons locked up when not under the owners' direct control (especially when a minor lives in the house). Did he take the guns from someone he lived with (i.e., his parents or grandparents)? If so, did the gun owner(s) fail to keep them locked up? And did the owner(s) break the law by so doing? Captain Quirk (talk) 01:07, 16 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

It's also a very sensetive political issue. 71.51.50.38 (talk) 22:20, 11 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

How the hell is this in the video game controversies section?(sorry for profanity) i thought the fuss was all about Rage. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.244.225.180 (talk) 03:18, 5 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

After the shooting at Heath, authorities searched extensively for the perpetrator's motive. They came up empty-handed. Though Carneal was bullied, we don't actually know whether or not this influenced his motive. Remember, Carneal targeted the school prayer group (people who had never bullied him. In fact they tried to welcome him into their group, but he refused and often mocked the members for their faith). Some claimed that the shooter was motivated by an anti-Christian sentiment, but this cannot be proven. Why he targeted the prayer group, we may never know, but the motive was not bullying (and most mass shooters, even those that commit hate crimes, often struggle with mental health). If any evidence has surfaced that "bullying and mental illness" were contributing factors in the motive, please let me know. Editor3125 (talk) 23:04, 26 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]