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Category:White rums

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Nominator's rationale: WP:OVERLAPCAT and the spirit of WP:C2D
Light and white rum is the same thing. We don't have a main article, but this section in the Rum article is titled "Light rums" and confirms that the two terms are synonymous. (Both Light rum and White rum are redirects pointing to that same section.) The articles also use them interchangeably, like Long Island iced tea uses one term in the infobox and the other in the intro. - RevelationDirect (talk) 00:13, 4 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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Category:Crateroscelis

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Nominator's rationale: According to Ecological and evolutionary diversification in the Australo-Papuan scrubwrens (Sericornis) and mouse-warblers (Crateroscelis) Freely accessible and IRMNG, Crateroscelis is now a junior subjective synonym of Origma. jlwoodwa (talk) 02:09, 4 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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Category:Durangonella

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Nominator's rationale: According to An annotated checklist and bibliography of the land and freshwater snails of México and Central America Freely accessible and WoRMS, Durangonella is no longer a valid taxon, and its species have been transferred to the genera Juturnia and Tryonia of the family Cochliopidae. jlwoodwa (talk) 04:01, 4 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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Category:Holopogon

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Nominator's rationale: According to GRIN and IRMNG, Holopogon has been synonymized with Neottia. jlwoodwa (talk) 04:20, 4 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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Category:Alcippeidae

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Nominator's rationale: Alcippeidae is a monogeneric family. jlwoodwa (talk) 06:08, 4 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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Category:Antpittas

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Nominator's rationale: These categories are overlapping – antpitta is the common name for members of the family Grallariidae. jlwoodwa (talk) 19:03, 4 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I'd also accept a reverse merge. jlwoodwa (talk) 15:37, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:People of the colonial Southwest of North America

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Nominator's rationale: rename, aligning with article Southwestern United States and Category:History of the Southwestern United States. Southwestern North America does not make sense, that would be in Central America. Marcocapelle (talk) 21:40, 4 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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Category:Canadian Soccer Championship

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Nominator's rationale: The capitalization of "Soccer" makes it seem like Canadian Soccer Championship is the competition's proper title, which it isn't. Arguably it should just be Category:Canadian Championship to be an eponomous category, although it appears that that rename discussion was already made and discarded. Either way, "Canadian Championship (soccer)" would make it closer to an eponmous category, while still differentiating it from other sports championships. RedBlueGreen93 06:38, 5 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I agree with this, although it seems that others did not in a previous discussion here. RedBlueGreen93 20:57, 9 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Nippon TV

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Nominator's rationale: Official full station name. VenezuelanSpongeBobFan2004 (talk) 21:39, 5 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Had originally closed this as a simple rename, but then realised none of the categories proposed for renaming here were actually tagged for CFD. So a procedural relist and will tag them.
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Category:Fictional hamsters

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Nominator's rationale: This category only contains one article about a fictional hamster (that being Wrecking Ball (Overwatch)). However, Category:Hamsters in popular culture could be easily created out of this category. (Oinkers42) (talk) 16:26, 5 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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Category:Stadiums that have hosted a FIFA World Cup opening match

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Nominator's rationale: An obvious example of WP:PERFCAT and WP:NONDEF. User:Namiba 21:47, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Supermarkets of Slovakia

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Nominator's rationale: Contains only list article (already in target category), not useful for navigation. Felida97 (talk) 20:43, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Supermarkets of San Marino

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Nominator's rationale: Contains only list article (already in target category), not useful for navigation. Felida97 (talk) 20:37, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Diptendu Pramanick

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Nominator's rationale: Eponymous category with only other article entry is the person's parent. WP:OCEPON StarcheerspeaksnewslostwarsTalk to me 20:26, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Nabil Kanso

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Nominator's rationale: Unnecessary eponymous parent for one subcategory. StarcheerspeaksnewslostwarsTalk to me 20:20, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The category contains two elements: one article and one subcategory. The subcategory in turn contains one article and one subcategory; should that also be deleted on the same basis? jnestorius(talk) 23:59, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
It is because of that that this eponymous category just becomes a redundant layer since the Works By category sufficiently categories the related content to the topic on its own. StarcheerspeaksnewslostwarsTalk to me 04:13, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Works by Indian filmmakers

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Nominator's rationale: With writing, producing, and directing subcats, this is more in line with the "works by" scheme. Parent category should then just be Category:Works by Indian filmmakers. StarcheerspeaksnewslostwarsTalk to me 19:41, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:World Health Organization director-generals

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Nominator's rationale: Correct plural per the Director-General of the World Health Organization article and also Template:WHO Directors-General. StAnselm (talk) 17:06, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:ABS-CBN personalities

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Nominator's rationale: "Personalities" is redundant with people. There is no reason to have this category which implies to cover "actors and singers" when "people" apply just fine. Hariboneagle927 (talk) 09:05, 21 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Thoughts on FL's comment?
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Relisting comment: adding siblings.
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Category:Channel 4 presenters

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Nominator's rationale: It's just people who present or have once presented random Channel 4 programmes. We shouldn't be dividing by network, which amounts to nothing more than WP:PERFCAT. The national level is sufficient. --woodensuperman 08:51, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Restaurants in Bristol

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Nominator's rationale: Category containing a single article, unhelpful for navigation. AusLondonder (talk) 16:11, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Restaurants in Hampshire

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Nominator's rationale: Category containing one defunct restaurant in a pub. Unhelpful for navigation. AusLondonder (talk) 12:31, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
As it's a former restaurant, does it even belong in Category:Restaurants in England? --woodensuperman 13:07, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Endangered species by reason they are threatened

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Nominator's rationale: This category has long been used for both extinction-threatened species and extinct species. Separating out extinct species is impractical for reasons detailed on the cat page, and would result in a lot of duplication. Extinct species aren't really threatened in the present tense and "endangered species" is also a counterintuitive way to describe them. Alternate name suggestions welcome. HLHJ (talk) 01:29, 28 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete and also delete all corresponding subcategories similarly created by HLHJ. This category grouping appears to force one or more clear reasons why a species is endangered when it is usually a combination of numerous factors. For example, climate change global warming endangers a huge amount of species simply by existing and causing changes to the biosphere, but according to this categorization scheme, it only endangers a small portion of them. The amount of misinformation being given to the reader makes this tree of categories untenable, even if it was intended in good faith. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 23:23, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Oppose deleting as incomplete. Most of our categories are incomplete. Donald Trump is in Category:Illeists, and Xenophon isn't. Xenophon made really extensive and notable use of illeism, and assuming the contrary, just because he's not in that category, is clearly wrong. The lack of categorization at "Xenophon" is not misinformation.
    The categories are not exclusive; multiple categories can be added, and anyone may cat any species endangered by climate change (according to reliable sources) but not categorized as such. Exhaustive categorization is impossible. New threats to a species can occur at any time, and minor threats may be unclear, and even major threats may be completely unknown to humans. The presence of a category says that we know X threatens this species; the absence does not say that we know X is no threat to this species. If you wanted that, you'd need a "Species endangered, but not by climate change" cat, or similar.
    Without wishing to trivialize climate change, it is unfortunately only one of the major causes of the biodiversity crisis. There are also many species which are under threat from other causes, such as Category:Species endangered by invasive species. Habitat loss to agriculture and expanding human population is also an issue, as are other forms of pollution. And some reasons really ought to be listed in an encyclopedia that makes knowledge widely available, because they are caused by ignorance, like Category:Species endangered by the pet trade. Which reasons are most important varies (for instance, climate change and trawling are major threats to corals, and agriculture is a major threat to grassland birds, reported to threaten about three times as many grassland bird species as climate change).[1][2]
    I don't know of any attempt to rate threats by the number of species they affect globally. It is quite possible that most endangered species are unknown to science (certain, if we include microorganisms). But it is very obvious that if we could wave a magic wand and make climate change never have happened, we'd still have a biodiversity crisis from all the other anthropocene messes. Researchers identifying threats to species often don't list climate change, and sometimes explicitly state that is doesn't seem to be a significant threat to an individual species. So many species will not be categorized as threatened by climate change if we accurately reflect the reliable sources.
    I think that systematically listing the threats facing species is a good idea, and so as I recall did the person at the IUCN I corresponded with when first creating these categories years ago (starting in 2015, though the overarching cat was apparently 2017). There are about 70 subcategories containing at least hundreds of pages. Such a list is necessarily incomplete, but incomplete information is still useful. HLHJ (talk) 22:11, 9 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete with subcategories, Zxcvbnm makes an excellent point. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:05, 1 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Relisting comment: I noticed only one main idea was stated, one by zxcvbnm. I have relisted this to see if there are any additional comments that propose/support this idea as I only saw one other supporter.
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Would it be in order for me (or anyone) to notify some relevant forums of this discussion, as for instance Wikipedia:WikiProject Plants? I've made a bunch of assertions about conservation biology, and I think input from editors interested in this subject area would be valuable. HLHJ (talk) 22:16, 9 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Relisting comment: Tagging and adding subcats to nomination.
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Category:Fighter aircraft in production

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Nominator's rationale: This is a newly-created category, and while the idea is credible the execution is a not defining characteristic of the aircraft categorised within. In addition, if I recall we discourage categorising as "currently X". The Bushranger One ping only 06:45, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I can maintain it. I have no problem if you delete it either.Nafis Fuad Ayon (talk) 06:51, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Service companies of Haiti

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Nominator's rationale: merge, redundant category layer with only one subcategory. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:49, 13 November 2024 (UTC)*[reply]

Category:Computer companies of Haiti

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Nominator's rationale: Only has 1 entry. LibStar (talk) 04:29, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:19th-century Seattle politicians

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Nominator's rationale: Isolated category. Dual merge. SMasonGarrison 03:09, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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