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Description

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Israelbeach (talk · contribs), has stated that he is Joel Leyden: according to the first line of the Joel Leyden article, a professional Search Engine Optimizer [1]. I suspect that Leyden is attempting to use Wikipedia as a tool for his PR firm [2].

He has performed the following actions:

  • Threatened other users with legal action
  • Created articles (some via sockpuppets) about himself, his privately held business, his employees and former employees and giving as "evidence" of notability references to his own news agency. Has written articles about other non-notables - possibly clients of his PR firm?
  • Created sockpuppets to support himself, to defend his articles on AfD, and to circumvent 3RR (see: Wikipedia:Requests for CheckUser#Israelbeach aka Joel Leyden for a list of the suspected sockpuppets)
  • Deleted (via one of his sockpuppets) comments of another user who opposed him on a talk page
  • Repeatedly adding this paragraph to the article Ra'anana, despite objections on talk page. He has admitted to being personally involved with a lobby for divorced fathers' rights. [3]
  • Disregarded consensus
  • Circumvented 3RR by means of sockpuppets
  • Falsified votes on AfD by means of sockpuppets
  • Harrassed other users
  • General lack of civility or respect for other users, threatening tone

Evidence of disputed behavior

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  1. adding AfD tag to another user's page
  2. Israelbeach announcing his intention to delete a comment by another user. The offending comment was later indeed deleted from Talk:Ra'anana by Bonnieisrael (talk · contribs), a suspected sockpuppet
  3. threat of legal action (under an IP, later altered to his sig);claim to having filed a criminal complaint against another editor
  4. edit history showing multiple reverts: about 8 reverts of the same paragraph by Israelbeach, and 4 more by sockpuppets (circumventing 3RR)
  5. accusation of censorship
  6. Joel Leyden's own report on his discovery of Wikipedia, and his effort to get articles about himself and his news agency past AfD.
  7. The following item of evidence is in Hebrew! An article from a leading news portal in Israel about a service offered by Joel Leyden's PR company: promising to boost clients' rankings on internet search engines [4] Here's a translation.
  8. another user claiming to be afraid of Israelbeach's vindictiveness in real life.
  9. Suspected sockpuppets:

Applicable policies and guidelines

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  1. Wikipedia:No legal threats
  2. Wikipedia:Sock puppetry
  3. Wikipedia:Three-revert rule
  4. Wikipedia:Civility
  5. Wikipedia:Harassment
  6. Wikipedia is not a Search engine optimization tool

Evidence of trying and failing to resolve the dispute

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  1. [9]
  2. Talk:Ra'anana
  3. User talk:Rasmus Faber#Talk:Rasmus Faber
  4. [10]
  5. [11]

Users certifying the basis for this dispute

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  1. --Woggly 11:11, 23 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  2. --jpgordon∇∆∇∆ 15:26, 23 April 2006 (UTC), though I don't agree completely with all the details in the description of the problem, the overall picture seems right.[reply]

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Response

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I am pleased that Wiki provides a forum for those Wiki editors who have been personally attacked, as I and others have been harassed by both Jpgordon and Woggly who have also vandalized Wiki pages. It is the negative, fraudulent and dangerous actions of Jpgordon and Woggly which create a bad name for Wikipedia.

Background: I am a professional editor and journalist who has served many leading respected international media outlets including UPI, Newsday, the Jerusalem Post and Google News. Entrusted with their good names in all the copy for which I written for them. Furthermore, as an Israel Government accredited journalist and the publisher of the Israel News Agency, as such I continue to strive in maintaining an abundance of credibility, objectivity, balance and lastly a good, understanding heart for the people and events I write about. No human is perfect, including myself and we all make mistakes. I believe without any doubt that Jpgordon and Woggly are making one very big mistake in a campaign to malign my name and reputation.

In fact, one just needs to look at Jpgordon's actions on the Ra'anana page where he repeatly deleted accredited news sources which verified material that I upload onto that page! That Jpgordon and Woggly have the time to make such false accusations as they have below is a very sad and pathetic commentary regarding to their character.

Before going charge by charge, I want to bring to the adms attention one of several of my good faith attempts to communicate with Jpgordon on his discussion page [[12]] where I stated: "Why Have You Removed Two News Links on the Ra'anana Page? Two independent news sources point out gender bias discrimination in Ra'anana, Israel, but yet you delete these sources of published fact. Why? IsraelBeach 21:56, 22 April 2006 (UTC). Jpgordon never responded to my questions. Or should I say that this Request For Comment was his response.[reply]

It is truly sad for Wikipedia that both Jpgordon and Woggly do not know how to communicate with those they are supposed to be helping?

Furthermore, this is how Woggly describes me to other editors on Wiki: "Asides from just bugging the heck out of me, I truly believe this is a dangerous user, in that he is working out ways to manipulate Wikipedia for his personal gain. I realise this is a severe accusation, (of which Woggly has no substance behind) which is why I would like to get more Wikipedia administrators involved in dealing with this person. If I just go ahead and block him and his sockpuppets, he'll simply lodge a complaint against me and invent some story about this being my personal vendetta or something. And he's bound to pop up again under some different guise. His articles will continue surviving AfD because they're written well enough to seem plausibly noteable, and most of the voters don't know enough about Israel to judge notability in Israel -not to mention the sockpuppet votes he uses just in case. What do I do? How do I deal with this creep? Thanks. --Woggly 06:53, 23 April 2006 (UTC) Oh my, I've just read this article which was linked to from Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Joel Leyden, and learned a new term: Search Engine Optimizer. Wouldn't you say this is signing his own confession? --Woggly 07:07, 23 April 2006 (UTC) Jay, I don't have access to the maillists, so, yes, I would appreciate your bringing the matter to the attention of other wkipedians. Thanks. --Woggly 18:06, 23 April 2006 (UTC)"

She has repeatly torn down the Ra'anana page, knowing that it contained 3 verifiable news sources and after doing so made the following comment: "I will now remove the offending paragraph from the article in question, alert other adminstrators to the situation here, and wash my hands of this idiotic affair." Woggly called those taking part in an objective and good discussion as "idiots" then preceded to take the Ra'anana page down again and ran or as she has said: "wash my hands of this idiotic affair." But yet she came back today with a RfC as another personal attack after labeling me as a "dangerous user". How does one spell the word defamation? Charges:

  • Threatened other users with legal action - Wiki policy frowns upon this for corporate reasons, they do not need nor want lawsuits for which they have plenty. And they truly want people to communicate in a warm and understanding manner. But as Wiki clearly knows, you cannot ignore a crime nor can you truly demand of others to ignore criminal activity and break both US and international law.
  • Created articles (some via sockpuppets) about himself, his privately held business, his employees and former employees and giving as "evidence" of notability references to his own news agency. Has written articles about other non-notables - possibly clients of his PR firm? - Sounds good! But where's the beef? Show me evidence of using sockpuppets and that Levine and Silber were ever employees of mine? It just ain't there.
    This is better than DisneyWorld!

    What is there is a campaign to malign my name - something that my ex-wife has started as we are in a custody dispute and the fact that I started a Yahoo on-line community forum NewRaanana serving over 1,300 members for which many extreme Israeli right wingers and religious citizens of Ra'anana are threatened by. Combining my custody dispute with the creation NewRaanana and several other community groups (was just written about as a cover story on The Jerusalem Post [13]) one gets their good share of enemies. But I consider myself fortunate as my friends outweight my enemies (serve as a consultant to the Israel Ministry of Foreign Affairs and Israel Defense Forces). Most of those who dislike me belong to such groups as Hamas and Islamic Jihad for the pro-Israel work I am respected for.

  • Created sockpuppets to support himself, to defend his articles on AfD, and to circumvent 3RR (see: Wikipedia:Requests for CheckUser#Israelbeach aka Joel Leyden for a list of the suspected sockpuppets) - Where is the evidence? Again - this is pure harassment and apologies are due to those mentioned as sockpuppets and myself.
  • Deleted (via one of his sockpuppets) comments of another user who opposed him on a talk page - Again - no evidence. Only harassment.
  • Repeatedly adding this paragraph to the article Ra'anana, despite objections on talk page. He has admitted to being personally involved with a lobby for divorced fathers' rights. [14] - What is the crime for wanting to spend more time with your children. These accusations are disgusting and tranparent.
  • Disregarded consensus - What consensus? Again, harassment!
  • Circumvented 3RR by means of sockpuppets - Where's the evidence? Only harassment and empty charges!!!
  • Falsified votes on AfD by means of sockpuppets - Where's the evidence? Only harassment and empty charges!!!
  • Harrassed other users - Is discussion now called harassment? This is excellent spin!
  • General lack of civility or respect for other users, threatening tone - I don't make threats nor and as a trained cross-cultural consultant with a degree in psychology always reach out for understanding, respect and healthy communication.

It should be noted that none of my SEO work is connected to Wikipedia, but my editorial work is [15]- as material I have written for the Israel News Agency has been used as Featured Articles on Wiki. That I take pride in contributing to Wikipedia and those above call it SEO is a strange and ugly paradox. The above empty charges against me are only filled with hate and contempt for a man who simply cares to point out that the City of Ra'anana practices gender bias discrimination in child custody cases. A proud dad who has had his children taken away from him and as salt to a wound is brought to this room today to defend himself for trying to make the world a slighly better place for his and all of our children. I kindly request all Wiki adms to examine the behaivor of those who brought me to this room. To look at this organized campaign of hate [[16]] and to ask if this behaivor is positive for Wikipedia? Best wishes to all Wiki adms who have come here to read the above.
Thank you for your time ... and efforts ;> Users who endorse this summary:

IsraelBeach 20:47, 23 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I have never witnessed an organized and disgraceful campaign of hate like this in my life [[17]]. I hope the adm take action against those who brought you to this room Israelbeach. Keep posting in Wiki. Your contributions are brave, objective and professional. Nancetlv 22:11, 23 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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Outside view by Bluegrasstom

This dispute is unjustified and that the above summary is highly biased and incomplete. Israelbeach is a highly respected member of the Ra'anana community and has contributed greatly to Wiki. All Israelbeach is asking for is that gender bias discrimination be removed from the City of Ra'anana. In fact, he has provided three news links to support this issue, news links that jpgordon has vandalized by deleting them from the Ra'anana article against Wiki policy. Bluegrasstom 16:48, 23 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: This is Bluegrasstom's third edit. --Woggly 17:30, 23 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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Outside view by Tom Harrison

User:Israelbeach has been using the article on Ra'anana as a soapbox to promote his views on father's rights. He has used puppets and edit warring while trying to force the inclusion of a paragraph not supported by consensus. He has made legal threats. Tom Harrison Talk 23:07, 23 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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