Talk:Manifesto (2015 film)/GA1

GA Review

Passed. Riley1012 (talk) 18:26, 9 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Nominator: Lapadite (talk · contribs) 00:37, 3 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Reviewer: Riley1012 (talk · contribs) 19:17, 4 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, I will complete an initial review within one week. -Riley1012 (talk) 19:17, 4 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Criteria: 1a. prose () 1b. MoS () 2a. ref layout () 2b. cites WP:RS () 2c. no WP:OR () 2d. no WP:CV ()

3a. broadness () 3b. focus () 4. neutral () 5. stable () 6a. free or tagged images () 6b. pics relevant ()

Note: this represents where the article stands relative to the Good Article criteria. Criteria marked are unassessed

1. Well-written

Write out the Australian Centre for the Moving Image the first time the ACMI acronym is used.
...in Australia, Germany, United States,... "the" needed before United States.
...in select cities in the U.S from... additional period is needed after the S in U.S. or just US (see MOS:US)
I would combine the two paragraphs in the plot section since they're so short.
Manifesto was commissioned by the ACMI, in partnership with Art Gallery of New South Wales,... Add "the" before Art Gallery
...where it was part of a larger exhibition entitled "Manifesto:Art X Agency". Add a space after the colon
The first showing in North America was in December 2016/January 2017... The source does list the full dates instead of just the months, so I would add the specific dates to maintain consistency with the rest of the section

2. Verifiable
The violation highlighted by Earwig is the list of manifestos, so it is fine as it is. The primary source used here (Rosefeldt's website) is used for the plot description and other factual details rather than interpretation, so this is also fine per WP:PRIMARY.

Spot check- 4, 8, 15, 18, 21, 27, 29, 33, 37- no issues.

Ref. 7 does not seem to support that Rosefeldt and Blanchett met to brainstorm the project.

Ref. 3 can be removed as it does not add anything- that manifesto's title is already included in ref. 1.
The first paragraph of the development section has three inline citations of ref. 4 which is unnecessary per WP:OVERCITE since the one source supports the whole paragraph. There are a couple of other instances where two consecutive sentences use the same inline citation- the citation is only needed once.
For ref. 17- is it possible to find this information outside of the Facebook post and use that as the source instead?
Ref. 22 needs the access date parameter.

3. Broad
This article covers the major aspects of the film.

4. Neutral
No concerns regarding neutrality.

5. Stable
No concerns regarding stability.

6. Illustrated
The poster has a non-free use rationale.

I think it would be good to add a photo of Julian Rosefeldt in the production section and Cate Blanchett in the reception section.

@Lapadite: Okay, that is all I have! -Riley1012 (talk) 15:08, 7 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I took the liberty of implementing some of Riley1012's suggestions. I didn't remove ref. 3, a link to the text of Tzara's Dada Manifesto, because I did not find that text at ref. 1. -- Michael Bednarek (talk) 10:50, 8 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Riley1012: thanks for the review, and Michael Bednarek for the fixes.

I didn't write out Australian Centre for the Moving Image as its article says it is the former name of the museum and its present name is ACMI.

Added the missing sources that support the two collaborating on the project. Removed the Facebook post as Michael Bednarek added the magazine website. Removed ref 3.

There are a couple of other instances where two consecutive sentences use the same inline citation- the citation is only needed once. In the other instances, the sentences end in quotations, such as those cited by the current ref 5 and 3 in the development section.

Added an image of the director. I didn't find a useable image of Blanchett from the project. I think an irrelevant image of the actress would be unnecessary here. Lapadite (talk) 17:31, 9 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Lapadite: Okay, that is all fine with me. I will pass this. -Riley1012 (talk) 18:25, 9 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

GA follow-up

I disagree with the removal of the citation of Tzara's manifesto: Tristan Tzara (23 March 1918). "Dada Manifesto" – via 391 archive.. It helps readers to contextualise the episode. Further, I think that every manifesto for which Wikipedia doesn't have an article, that is all except Marx/Engels, should have a citation of its text. -- Michael Bednarek (talk) 02:33, 10 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The purpose of the table in my view is just to show which works were covered in the film rather than to provide context on every single work. All of them are listed in the further information section of the reference provided. That's why I asked to remove the one outlier citation just to maintain consistency. But if you want to add a citation for each one feel free. Riley1012 (talk) 02:38, 10 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]