User talk:kc_kennylau/2014

What was this supposed to be form, entries using {{de-adj}} with red links from the template? Red links are a normal part of any wiki and should not generally be categorized. I'd advise discussion before continuing (and a grammatical English title). Mglovesfun (talk) 11:54, 8 January 2014 (UTC)Reply

I want to create links for the German adjective forms whose link do not exist, and I do not want to go through the pages one by one. I notice that there are many articles that have red links in the word forms. Red links are a normal part of any wiki, but red links in the word forms should be avoided in my opinion. --Kc kennylau (talk) 12:18, 8 January 2014 (UTC)Reply

Well they should be created, unless unattested, when I say leave them as red links (they may later turn out to be attested). The thing is SemperBlottoBot (talk • contribs) already deals with German adjectives. See User:SemperBlottoBot/feedme. Mglovesfun (talk) 12:44, 8 January 2014 (UTC)Reply

I apologize for any inconvenience caused, as I now comprehend that this category is unnecessary. --Kc kennylau (talk) 12:57, 8 January 2014 (UTC)Reply

Please don't forget to include every part of speech and a short definition for each definition line, e.g. at diff. Thanks Haplogy (話) 06:01, 11 January 2014 (UTC)Reply

• 本当にごめんなさい、その間違いを未来にしません。
• I apologize for the mistake I made and promise that I will not make the same mistake again in the future.
• --Kc kennylau (talk) 07:30, 11 January 2014 (UTC)Reply

• 1) Verbs. SemperBlottoBot now understands German weak verbs. See the current state of Category:German verbs having red links in their conjugation table. Strong verbs are more complicated - I'll have a go at them soon.
• 2) Adjectives. Feel free to find missing inflected forms of German adjectives if you think it useful. Bear in mind that many of our entries have a {{de-adj}} template to generate a headword, but lack a {{de-decl-adj}} or {{de-decl-adj-notcomp}} template to generate declension table. I'll try to generate a list of those some time.
• 3) Stop bugging people (not just me). Most people look at the Beer Parlor every day - we see your requests there and don't need to be prodded. SemperBlotto (talk) 08:53, 12 January 2014 (UTC)Reply

When you create new entries for verb forms, could you use {{head|de|verb form}} instead of just {{head|de}}? We're gradually trying to remove certain categories from form-of templates, so that there's less uncertainty about when a category should or should not be added by the headword template. I think it works best if, as a general rule, we assume that we always need to add a category in the headword, and not rely on any categories that the form-of template provides. —CodeCat 14:19, 12 January 2014 (UTC)Reply

OK, manually adding begins (can I use AWB for this). --Kc kennylau (talk) 14:21, 12 January 2014 (UTC)Reply

Done. --kc_kennylau (talk) 15:15, 12 January 2014 (UTC)Reply

Hi there. SemperBlottoBot now understands both strong and weak German verbs. Your verb category is now quite small - mostly irregular verbs.

Your adjective category is also quite small - mostly numerals - maybe they need to be populated manually.

I have a list of German adjectives that are entirely lacking a declension template, and have started adding them. You can have a copy if you want to help (it is rather long!). SemperBlotto (talk) 10:03, 16 January 2014 (UTC)Reply

OK, please send me the list. --kc_kennylau (talk) 10:13, 16 January 2014 (UTC)Reply

Here you go. SemperBlotto (talk) 11:04, 16 January 2014 (UTC)Reply

NOTE: This list was generated semi-automatically and definitely contains some false positives, and even some total rubbish. SemperBlotto (talk) 16:29, 17 January 2014 (UTC)Reply

adiabatisch adjective adäquat aerodynamisch afrikanisch akademisch akzeptabel albanesisch aleatorisch alemannisch alexandrowisch algerisch alkoholisch alkoholisiert alleinstehend allergisch allerlei allmählig alphabetisch alphanumerisch altgeorgisch altirisch altjapanisch altostslawisch altpersisch altportugiesisch altruistisch altsächsisch alttestamentlich amateurhaft ambitioniert anachronistisch anarchisch anarchistisch ander anderweitig andorranisch androgyn anekdotisch angebracht angekettet angeschlagen anglikanisch annehmbar anomal anpassungsfähig ansteckend ansteuerbar antarktisch anthropozentrisch antifaschistisch antiquiert antisozial antithetisch anwendbar apathisch apfelig aphoristisch apodiktisch apoplektisch appetitanregend arbeitsam archaisch architektonisch argentinisch argwöhnisch aristokratisch asiatisch asozial aspektorientiert assi assoziativ astrachanisch atavistisch atemberaubend attraktiv atypisch aufdringlich auffällig aufgeweckt aufmerksam aufnahmefähig aufregend 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Thank you. --kc_kennylau (talk) 11:09, 16 January 2014 (UTC)Reply

I have run the AWB program on aerodynamisch (comparable) and afrikanisch (not comparable), success. --kc_kennylau (talk) 16:36, 17 January 2014 (UTC)Reply

Discovered -enen bug, removing them manually. --kc_kennylau (talk) 16:41, 17 January 2014 (UTC)Reply

Hi there. This template is now generating Script errors. See abwesend as an example. SemperBlotto (talk) 11:14, 16 January 2014 (UTC)Reply

Thank you for notifying me. I have already fixed the error. --kc_kennylau (talk) 11:22, 16 January 2014 (UTC)Reply

Hi there. AWB should work for you now. SemperBlotto (talk) 15:58, 17 January 2014 (UTC)Reply

Thank you so much. I have been requesting this for about a week. I can't wait to use it in Wiktionary. I can't use enough words to express my gratitude towards you. Sorry for my reply full of grammatical mistakes. --kc_kennylau (talk) 16:02, 17 January 2014 (UTC)Reply

Pages using {{de-adj}} (with no parameters):- aufdringlich aufmerksam ausgefallen ballförmig baufällig beispiellos bestreitbar biegsam brünstig entsetzlich erfolglos fahl fickbar fraulich fühlbar gerade grauenvoll herrenlos inadäquat irrtümlich klammheimlich kompostierbar konturlos kraus laienhaft läufig muchelig onkelhaft parvenühaft peinlich persisch picardisch päpstlich schiffbar schmerzlos sinnbildhaft spaltbar stimmhaft stimmig süss tragbar trinkbar umgänglich unbehaglich ungesetzlich unhaltbar unkonventionell unterhaltsam weh wählbar zahnärztlich

Please stop. diff is incorrect. --Dan Polansky (talk) 07:00, 18 January 2014 (UTC)Reply

It is not incorrect. It is an adjective without declension table. --kc_kennylau (talk) 07:01, 18 January 2014 (UTC)Reply

Even if it were incorrect, I wrote clearly in the category's description that it may contain false positives. --kc_kennylau (talk) 07:03, 18 January 2014 (UTC)Reply

Oh, sorry. The adjective really does not have an inflection table. I am not sure adding entries to such a category is a good idea, but the edit is not incorrect.

But the category Category:German adjectives without declension tables should not contain false positives, or certainly not many of them. --Dan Polansky (talk) 07:06, 18 January 2014 (UTC)Reply

Up till now I could not find any false positives. Please tell me if there exists any. I will check the whole category again after I finish adding them all. --kc_kennylau (talk) 07:09, 18 January 2014 (UTC)Reply

I have already made the category hidden. --kc_kennylau (talk) 07:12, 18 January 2014 (UTC)Reply

The reason why I find such a category a poor idea is that anyone with a wish to systematically add German declension templates should have a fairly easy time doing so even without the category. --Dan Polansky (talk) 07:22, 18 January 2014 (UTC)Reply

I could record the entries in the category and delete the category after I finish doing it if you want. All I would have to do is to go through every single entry in this category and remove the category. But this category is already hidden and it would make no difference. --kc_kennylau (talk) 07:40, 18 January 2014 (UTC)Reply

Why are you making the category? What is the use case for the category? --Dan Polansky (talk) 07:52, 18 January 2014 (UTC)Reply

This category serves as an internal (not disclosed to the public) category, for me and potentially other Wikipedians to know the number of unformatted German adjective entries. This is similar to what SemperBlotto did on the above topics, generate a list of unsatisfactory entries. The difference is, his lists were not editable, while I can always update my list. --kc_kennylau (talk) 07:57, 18 January 2014 (UTC)Reply

You do not need the category to determine the number, since you are either using scripted methods to find the list to be added to the category (so you already have the list, and know its size), or you should learn how to use scripted methods. Moreover, the entries are not unsatisfactory at all; inflection is trivial piece of information that most dictionaries omit, an entirely reasonable practice, IMHO. --Dan Polansky (talk) 08:30, 18 January 2014 (UTC)Reply

Please elaborate on what you mean by "scropt method". Where can I learn about script methods? --kc_kennylau (talk) 09:15, 18 January 2014 (UTC)Reply

Since you are using AWB, you must have identified the list of pages on which you are running AWB, right? So you already have the list, don't you? (To your question: AWB is a scripted, semi-automatic tools and method. You can also download Wiktionary dump and do various things with it using command-line tools, Python scripting or any scripting language of your choice.) --Dan Polansky (talk) 09:22, 18 January 2014 (UTC)Reply

No, I do not poccess the list. Here is what I do: I "downloaded" the pages in Category: German adjectives. Then, I go through each entry. If the entry contains a declension table, I skip it. If it doesn't, I add the category. Therefore, I do not have the list. I tried using java to surf Wiktionary, but I failed to do so and have no idea at all how to do so. It would be great if you can teach me how to do so. --kc_kennylau (talk) 09:30, 18 January 2014 (UTC)Reply

WT:I is an index, from which you get to dump by going to Help:FAQ#Downloading_Wiktionary. See also User_talk:Dan_Polansky/2012#statistics_on_translations, from which I linked to dumps; the dump you would probably want is http://dumps.wikimedia.org/enwiktionary/latest/enwiktionary-latest-pages-articles.xml.bz2 (see also http://dumps.wikimedia.org/enwiktionary/latest and http://dumps.wikimedia.org/enwiktionary). If you are on Windows, you can use "findstr" instead of "grep". --Dan Polansky (talk) 09:40, 18 January 2014 (UTC)Reply

But how would I be able to list all the pages that is in Category:German adjectives and does not contain the string "{{de-decl-adj" without actually adding them to a category? --kc_kennylau (talk) 10:44, 18 January 2014 (UTC)Reply

Do you have any scripting skills, like Python, Perl, VBA or the like? If not, do you have Java programming skills (it seems to be the case)? Any text processing skills like grep, sed, awk and the like? --Dan Polansky (talk) 11:01, 18 January 2014 (UTC)Reply

I know Java and Regex. Is that enough? If not, tell me what to learn and I'll learn it. --kc_kennylau (talk) 11:13, 18 January 2014 (UTC)Reply

┌────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────┘ Java and regex should be enough. Write a small Java program that searches for "{{de-adj|" in the downloaded unpacked dump; that should give you the German adjective entries. Then, considering "----" as the language separator and wiki syntax, you should be able to programmatically identify the German section of each found occurrence in the dump, and then programmatically find whether it contains a declension table. Using tools such as grep would be much quicker I think, though. --Dan Polansky (talk) 11:34, 18 January 2014 (UTC)Reply

This little Python script run on a dump will give you a list of German adjectival entries with no inflection table:

import sys, re

GermanStartFound = False
inflectionFound = False
title = ""
for line in open(sys.argv[1]):
  line = line.rstrip()
  if "<title>" in line:
    title = re.sub(" *<title>", "", line)
    title = re.sub("</title> *", "", title)
  if GermanStartFound:
    if "{{de-decl-adj|" in line or "{{de-decl-adj-notcomp" in line:
      inflectionFound = True
    if "----" in line or "</text>" in line:
      GermanStartFound = False      
      if not inflectionFound:
         print title
      inflectionFound = False
  if "{{de-adj|" in line or "{{de-adj}" in line or "{{head|de|adjective}}" in line:
    GermanStartFound = True

If I have not captured all the search strings, the script needs to be tweaked, but a quick run gives a good impression. --Dan Polansky (talk) 11:56, 18 January 2014 (UTC)Reply

This is what SemperBlotto had done. However, {{head|de|adjective}} or simply adding the category itself will put the page in Category:German adjectives. Please allow me to use the hidden category, as I cannot find any way better than it. --kc_kennylau (talk) 12:02, 18 January 2014 (UTC)Reply

head de adjective now added to the script above. But I will make a further extension to make it more bullet proof. --Dan Polansky (talk) 12:08, 18 January 2014 (UTC)Reply

I still have no idea how to connect my Java editor to the internet. If I process it into the downloaded mirror of Wiktionary, what point does it make? --kc_kennylau (talk) 12:10, 18 January 2014 (UTC)Reply

Mistake corrected above. You do not need Java. First download the dump. Have you downloaded the dump? --Dan Polansky (talk) 12:14, 18 January 2014 (UTC)Reply

I have downloaded it, but what is it anyway? A mirror of Wiktionary? And how may I use it in Java? I cannot open it since it is too large. Do I need to download java packages? --kc_kennylau (talk) 12:17, 18 January 2014 (UTC)Reply

┌────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────┘ So now if you have a file ending in ".xml.bz2", you have to unpack it, using e.g. 7-zip. Then you will have an XML file that contains the wikitext of Wiktionary articles. The Python script posted above works with this wikitext to find what you search for. Nothing to do with Java. The Python script will output a list of German adjectives without declension. --Dan Polansky (talk) 12:27, 18 January 2014 (UTC)Reply

AWB has the ability to do set operations on lists that you generate. So you can generate a list of all German adjectives, and then subtract those that transclude {{de-decl-adj}}. What you're left with is those that are lacking it. —CodeCat 12:24, 18 January 2014 (UTC)Reply

• Using the above script on enwiktionary-20130907-pages-articles.xml (an old dump), I found 2273 matching entries. Since you already have a list by SemperBlotto above on the page, I don't quite understand what you need the category for; certainly not to count the items in SemperBlotto list, right? --Dan Polansky (talk) 12:47, 18 January 2014 (UTC)Reply

So is the consensus now that I remove the category as well as every page in it? If so, Codecat, how would I apply difference to the two lists?

1. I know how to generate the two lists.
2. I don't know how to export the two lists so that I can import them into AWB again to compare them.
3. I know where the compare option is.

So please teach me. --kc_kennylau (talk) 13:14, 18 January 2014 (UTC)Reply

┌────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────┘Sorry, I have figured it out. So do I need to delete the category now? And Dan Polansky, I extremely appreciate your effort and I have to express my gratitude towards you, but I still find AWB easier than python. I will surely find you when I want to learn to use Python to contribute. Please do not be discouraged. --kc_kennylau (talk) 14:09, 18 January 2014 (UTC)Reply

• Great to hear you have figured out how to do that using AWB alone, without the hassle of downloading a dump and starting a Python script. Can you share with us step-by-step instruction on how you achieved that? Thanks. --Dan Polansky (talk) 16:26, 18 January 2014 (UTC)Reply

  There are two ways.

  1. The first way (which I used):
     1. Bottom left panel of the main window, set Source to Category, and Category to German adjectives.
     2. Click "Make list".
     3. Click the button "Filter" in the bottom of that panel.
     4. Open another AWB, set Source to What transcludes page, What embeds to Template:de-decl-adj-table.
     5. Click "Make list".
     6. List -> Save list... -> whatever.txt
     7. Go back to the first window
     8. Open file -> open the txt that you just saved
     9. Set operations: Symmetric Difference
     10. Apply
     11. List -> Save list.. -> there_you_go.txt
  2. The second way (which I discovered):
     1. Tools -> List comparer
     2. List 1: Category, German adjectives
     3. List 2: What transcludes page, Template:de-decl-adj-table
     4. Unique in List 1
     5. There you go

  --kc_kennylau (talk) 16:41, 18 January 2014 (UTC)Reply

Thank you; very nice. I like the 2nd method; I've tried it and it works like a charm. Do you have an idea how to find all English adjectives that lack etymology section using a similar method? --Dan Polansky (talk) 16:46, 18 January 2014 (UTC)Reply

Sorry, I have currently no idea. You may try to consult CodeCat. (How I wish I could tag people) --kc_kennylau (talk) 16:49, 18 January 2014 (UTC)Reply

I don't actually use AWB anymore, I used to a few years ago, so I don't know all the details of how things are done. I use only Python now. —CodeCat 18:30, 18 January 2014 (UTC)Reply

I don't think it exists. I don't think zählbar is comparable. --Dan Polansky (talk) 17:56, 18 January 2014 (UTC)Reply

Thank you, changed accordingly. --kc_kennylau (talk) 17:57, 18 January 2014 (UTC)Reply

Hi, I saw you added incorrect rhymes to German words. The rhyme of a word only starts with the stressed syllable. For example, "einfinden" doesn't rhyme in [-ɪndn̩] but in [-aɪ̯nfɪndn̩]. A word that rhymes with "einfinden" would be "hereinfinden" (no other comes to my mind at the moment). I wanted to remove the incorrect rhymes, but then I saw that there are way too many :( So it would be great if you could do this yourself. Thanks! Longtrend (talk) 18:17, 18 January 2014 (UTC)Reply

Surely I will do all by myself what I have started. I apologize a million times. --kc_kennylau (talk) 01:00, 19 January 2014 (UTC)Reply

Please check. --kc_kennylau (talk) 01:17, 19 January 2014 (UTC)Reply

Thanks for your cooperation, and no hard feelings! I removed a few more incorrect rhymes from Rhymes:German:-ɪndn̩. Should be okay now. Longtrend (talk) 09:14, 19 January 2014 (UTC)Reply

This edit destroyed the diacritics in the markup, which made the template non-functional. Please be more careful. Keφr 20:06, 18 January 2014 (UTC)Reply

Also, you forgot to close the template call here. I recommend enabling the syntax highlighter gadget (I just added it to Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-gadgets) — it might have helped a bit here. Keφr 20:14, 18 January 2014 (UTC)Reply

I apologize a million times. I will be more careful. --kc_kennylau (talk) 00:58, 19 January 2014 (UTC)Reply

A minor issue: "Used Template:de-adj instead of bolding the pagename" is inaccurante, since you are not so much replacing boldfaced headwords as {{head|de|adjective}} headwords.

"diesbezüglichsten" does not exist. --Dan Polansky (talk) 08:17, 19 January 2014 (UTC)Reply

Thanks, so diesbezu:glich is incomparable? --kc_kennylau (talk) 08:19, 19 January 2014 (UTC)Reply

What makes you think "diesbezüglich" is comparable? --Dan Polansky (talk) 08:21, 19 January 2014 (UTC)Reply

Never mind, please refer to my post on WT:BP. --kc_kennylau (talk) 08:22, 19 January 2014 (UTC)Reply

Which one? --Dan Polansky (talk) 08:22, 19 January 2014 (UTC)Reply

The one regarding incomparable adjectives. --kc_kennylau (talk) 08:23, 19 January 2014 (UTC)Reply

Please link to the post.

On a general note, you cannot just blindly assume that entries tagged with {{head|de|adjective}} are comparable. You need to get that information from somewhere. --Dan Polansky (talk) 08:24, 19 January 2014 (UTC)Reply

I did not assume so. --kc_kennylau (talk) 08:25, 19 January 2014 (UTC)Reply

So what made you think "diesbezüglich" is comparable? --Dan Polansky (talk) 08:26, 19 January 2014 (UTC)Reply

The fact that the first word in its translation relevant is comparable. --kc_kennylau (talk) 08:28, 19 January 2014 (UTC)Reply

┌────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────┘ I see. It does not work that way, though, but I am not sure "relevant" is the best translation. When in doubt, you can also check de:wikt, so de:diesbezüglich. --Dan Polansky (talk) 08:30, 19 January 2014 (UTC)Reply

I later checked German wiktionary, and found out that it's not comparable. --kc_kennylau (talk) 08:36, 19 January 2014 (UTC)Reply

By the way, checking the German Wiktionary (which I have proposed) is not such a great idea either. They indicate de:dunkelrot as comparable, but I cannot find any evidence supporting that claim: dunkelrötesten, dunkelrötestem, dunkelröteste, dunkelrötester, dunkelrötestes at the Google Books Ngram Viewer. ({{R:GNV}}). --Dan Polansky (talk) 09:53, 19 January 2014 (UTC)Reply

If I may intervene: dunkelrot is indeed comparable: google books:dunkelrotere, google books:dunkelrötere, google books:dunkelrotesten. As I know the German Wiktionary, they are rather conservative in calling adjectives "comparable" etc. Longtrend (talk) 10:05, 19 January 2014 (UTC)Reply

The searches that you have posted do not find anything at all in Books for me. Curious. How may hits do the above searches find for you? --Dan Polansky (talk) 10:50, 19 January 2014 (UTC)Reply

Ditto for dunkelrotere, dunkelrötere at the Google Books Ngram Viewer.({{R:GNV}}): no hits. --Dan Polansky (talk) 10:55, 19 January 2014 (UTC)Reply

Strange! Ngrams doesn't return anything for me either, but Google Books yields 22 hits for the first search, 3 for the second, and 32 for the third. Maybe it's because I'm automatically redirected to the German Google Books version? Don't know why they don't have the same corpus, though. Longtrend (talk) 11:06, 19 January 2014 (UTC)Reply

I vaguely recall Ngram has a minimum threshold: if a form does not have at least 50 hits or something like that, it does not show it at all. But I'd have to check. --Dan Polansky (talk) 11:26, 19 January 2014 (UTC)Reply

<butting in>What I do, if I am in any doubt, is to define German adjectives as not-comparable. We can always change it to comparable in the future, and the bot can add the extra forms. But if we define them as comparable and then have to change them to not-comparable, we have a load of forms to delete. SemperBlotto (talk) 10:10, 19 January 2014 (UTC)Reply

Is eingedenk comparable? --kc_kennylau (talk) 10:15, 19 January 2014 (UTC)Reply

No, and it doesn't inflect at all. Longtrend (talk) 10:22, 19 January 2014 (UTC)Reply

Hi there. These are only to be used for cross-wiki redirects. See {{softredirect}}. SemperBlotto (talk) 10:30, 20 January 2014 (UTC)Reply

Thank you. --kc_kennylau (talk) 10:32, 20 January 2014 (UTC)Reply

Could you check this entry please. I'm not sure if it means an individual character, or the writing system itself. SemperBlotto (talk) 10:39, 20 January 2014 (UTC)Reply

"Diese bezeichnen Zeichenformen" from German Wikipedia, suggesting that it's the writing system itself. I'm no native German (see that on my user pgae), User:Longtrend is one. --kc_kennylau (talk) 10:44, 20 January 2014 (UTC)Reply

"Kurzzeichen werden auf Chinesisch als jiǎntǐzì (簡體字 / 简体字) bezeichnet" suggests that it is the character. --kc_kennylau (talk) 11:12, 20 January 2014 (UTC)Reply

I don't really know anything about the Chinese writing system(s), but I highly doubt that Kurzzeichen can refer to a writing system. It just sounds wrong. Also the sentence beginning quoted by kc_kennylau above doesn't really imply the Simplified Chinese sense. Longtrend (talk) 16:46, 20 January 2014 (UTC)Reply

It doesn't matter. It would be the same question if you asked if 简体字 referred to the characters or to the system. It's basically both. Besides, Kurzzeichen and Langzeichen are not the formal terms, which would be vereinfacht and traditionell. --Explosivo (talk) 11:15, 25 August 2015 (UTC)Reply

Hi there. I've put a list of your subpages on your userpage. Feel free to delete the list if you don't want it public. SemperBlotto (talk) 17:06, 20 January 2014 (UTC)Reply

Thank you! :-) --kc_kennylau (talk) 23:09, 20 January 2014 (UTC)Reply

I am curious as to why you edited deistic to indicate that it is not comparable. It is trivially easy to find sources indicating that ideas are "more deistic" or "less deistic". Cheers! bd2412 T 14:53, 21 January 2014 (UTC)Reply

Sorry, reverted. --kc_kennylau (talk) 14:57, 21 January 2014 (UTC)Reply

Thanks, cheers! bd2412 T 15:48, 21 January 2014 (UTC)Reply

Hey Kenny. Just dropping in to say hi to another Mandarin editor. Just a small issue on 解答's pinyin. You might've accidentally clicked the ĕ symbol instead of ě, which is the correct symbol for the third intonation. I've deleted jiĕdá and created jiědá; I've also made the corresponding change in 解答. Thanks for your contributions. Jamesjiao → ^{T ◊ C}

Hi there. What's the reason for the strange list of "correspondences". I don't see the point. SemperBlotto (talk) 12:47, 23 January 2014 (UTC)Reply

p.s. Could you modify the {{de-decl-adj-notcomp-nopred}} template, so that it doesn't show in this category? I think there is a misplaced "includeonly", but I can't see where. SemperBlotto (talk) 12:47, 23 January 2014 (UTC)Reply

It is not the "includeonly" that is misplaced, it is the fact that it calls {{de-decl-adj}}. --kc_kennylau (talk) 12:52, 23 January 2014 (UTC)Reply

Hi there. I notice that you added a declension table to this adjective. Any idea why it isn't showing up in Category:German adjectives having red links in their declension table? My guess is all the strange sorting logic. SemperBlotto (talk) 15:22, 24 January 2014 (UTC)Reply

Well, it has nothing to do with the sorting logic, but it is the namespace logic. I've just fixed it. --kc_kennylau (talk) 15:25, 24 January 2014 (UTC)Reply

I have not botified de luxe or beige. The first - I'm not convinced that any declined forms exist (I couldn't find any on a quick Google); the second - I'm not sure of all those double "e"s. SemperBlotto (talk) 16:45, 24 January 2014 (UTC)Reply

I apologize for my careless mistakes. --kc_kennylau (talk) 16:47, 24 January 2014 (UTC)Reply

Hi there. I'm about to give this bot status. Could you make sure your user-config.py has a statement something like put_throttle = 10 (at least at the start). This will make sure it doesn't do too much damage too quickly if it should go wrong. You could reduce the time delay when the bot is proved to be well-behaved. SemperBlotto (talk) 15:34, 28 January 2014 (UTC)Reply

Done. --kc_kennylau (talk) 15:40, 28 January 2014 (UTC)Reply

Hi there. Thanks for the shiny table on WT:FUN. However, there's a tiny bug which shifts the letters over in some columns. I'd try to fix it, but have no idea how to. --Back on the list (talk) 15:45, 31 January 2014 (UTC)Reply

Thanks. This should fix it. --kc_kennylau (talk) 15:50, 31 January 2014 (UTC)Reply

Broken. See bottom of Oberlandesgericht. Please make sure you test heavily used templates when you change them. SemperBlotto (talk) 12:06, 2 February 2014 (UTC)Reply

Fixed. --kc_kennylau (talk) 12:16, 2 February 2014 (UTC)Reply

Why is this word in your new German noun category? I can't see anything missing. SemperBlotto (talk) 17:02, 2 February 2014 (UTC)Reply

Sorry, gone now. --kc_kennylau (talk) 17:13, 2 February 2014 (UTC)Reply

Also Auto SemperBlotto (talk) 17:19, 2 February 2014 (UTC)Reply

Fixed. --kc_kennylau (talk) 17:21, 2 February 2014 (UTC)Reply

Thank you for your attention to el-alternative form of — Saltmarsh (talk) 06:21, 3 February 2014 (UTC)Reply

No problem at all. --kc_kennylau (talk) 06:22, 3 February 2014 (UTC)Reply

Hi there. I am slowly working through the members of this category. Many are due to errors in the coding of templates - these I am fixing. (I am currently working through N...) When I have finished, over 99% of the remainder will be nouns whose archaic dative singular has not been created. I believe that for most of these, we should not create such a word as the lemma itself is more modern (e.g. German for "pressure cooker"). I propose that, when I have finished, we should remove the test for these entries. SemperBlotto (talk) 08:35, 3 February 2014 (UTC)Reply

I could remove the test for the archaic dative singular, but I don't think we should remove the test, because more and more entries will still be created in the future. --kc_kennylau (talk) 08:37, 3 February 2014 (UTC)Reply

But it means that the category will be useless (at least, I won't use it, and I doubt that you will) - hundreds of entries that don't matter hiding the few that do. SemperBlotto (talk) 08:41, 3 February 2014 (UTC)Reply

OK, do it as you wish. :-) --kc_kennylau (talk) 08:43, 3 February 2014 (UTC)Reply

Hi. Words like trenim should be categorised in Category:Turkish noun forms, not Category:Turkish nouns. --Back on the list (talk) 14:17, 3 February 2014 (UTC)Reply

@Back on the list Je les ai tous fixées manuellement. Vérifies s'il te plaît. Et pourquoi tu ne mes pas {{babel}} dans ton page pour que l'on puisse voir quelles langues parles-tu? --kc_kennylau (talk) 14:32, 3 February 2014 (UTC)Reply

Correction - Je les ai tous fixées manuellement. Vérifies-les s'il te plaît. Et pourquoi pas mettre {{babel}} sur ta page pour que l'on puisse voir quelles langues tu parles ?

Et merci, je vais essayer de vérifier. --Back on the list (talk) 14:37, 3 February 2014 (UTC)Reply

Merci beaucoup pour ta correction. :-) --kc_kennylau (talk) 14:58, 3 February 2014 (UTC)Reply

Thank you for your list of some German irregular verbs. I am reminded of the "SemperBlotto First Law of Wikilists" that states that it is far easier to generate a list of words to be actioned than it is to actually action the list. How are you getting on with User:Kc kennylau/a more complete list? SemperBlotto (talk) 08:31, 5 February 2014 (UTC)Reply

@SemperBlotto Before I have completed the list, I have already used AWB to do all that requires not any further human input. Therefore, if I am correct, the things in the list shall all require manual processing. --kc_kennylau (talk) 11:18, 5 February 2014 (UTC)Reply

Jennybot is adding plurals to de-decl-noun-.. as positional parameters, without the pl= keyword. See Adamsapfel as an example. I am in the process of correcting them. SemperBlotto (talk) 08:34, 6 February 2014 (UTC)Reply

Thanks. I am fixing my script in order to minimalize the chance of getting the wrong declensions. --kc_kennylau (talk) 08:36, 6 February 2014 (UTC)Reply

You are also adding an extra "|n" where it shouldn't be. See Baumhaus as an example (now corrected). SemperBlotto (talk) 12:07, 6 February 2014 (UTC)Reply

• Beschiss looks wrong, but I'm not familiar with the template. SemperBlotto (talk) 12:09, 6 February 2014 (UTC)Reply

• I am fixing them using my bot --kc_kennylau (talk) 12:16, 6 February 2014 (UTC)Reply
  • Re [1]: {{de-decl-noun-f}} and {{de-decl-noun-m}} don't work for the adjectival declension of nouns. You have to use {{de-decl-adj+noun-f}} and {{de-decl-adj+noun-m}}. —Aɴɢʀ (talk) 12:36, 6 February 2014 (UTC)Reply
    • And here's another bot mistake I corrected. I hope it isn't making too many like this. —Aɴɢʀ (talk) 12:40, 6 February 2014 (UTC)Reply
      • The problem at Beschiss (and several others) is that {{de-decl-noun-m-es-unc}} works only for nouns where the e in the genitive singular is optional; it doesn't work for nouns where the e is obligatory. —Aɴɢʀ (talk) 12:46, 6 February 2014 (UTC)Reply
        • Let's just conclude that the German declension templates are flawed. --kc_kennylau (talk) 12:47, 6 February 2014 (UTC)Reply
          • Yes, they desperately need an overhaul, preferably to work with Lua. But I know nothing about programming, so I'm not the one to do it. But in the meantime, it's better to have no declension table in an entry at all than to have an incorrect one. —Aɴɢʀ (talk) 12:49, 6 February 2014 (UTC)Reply

• Please stop adding the declension tables to nouns declined like adjectives. Some of them already have declension tables anyway; why is the bot adding a declension table when one is already present? It's a mess to clean up; if I find many more I'm going to have to block the bot. —Aɴɢʀ (talk) 16:52, 6 February 2014 (UTC)Reply
  • I have stopped the script immediately. --kc_kennylau (talk) 16:54, 6 February 2014 (UTC)Reply
    • Thanks. I don't know anything about programming bots, so I don't know what to tell you to fix, or how it can detect whether a noun follows the adjectival declension or not, but if you can figure that out or get someone to show you how to fix that, you can start it up again. The edits to "normal" nouns all look fine (except Herz, but it isn't your bot's fault that {{de-decl-noun-n}} doesn't accommodate that word). —Aɴɢʀ (talk) 17:08, 6 February 2014 (UTC)Reply
      • @Angr I need to at least have a list of mistakes, and I'll figure out how to solve them. --kc_kennylau (talk) 09:01, 7 February 2014 (UTC)Reply
        • Adjectival nouns with the wrong declension table: diff 1, diff 2; adjectival nouns with the wrong declension table where a correct declension table was already present (!): diff 3, diff 4, diff 5, diff 6, diff 7; a "normal" noun where the dative plural in -n was incorrectly suppressed: diff 8. —Aɴɢʀ (talk) 09:14, 7 February 2014 (UTC)Reply
          • I am afraid that diff 3~7 has already been all cleared before I attempt to fix them. --kc_kennylau (talk) 09:43, 7 February 2014 (UTC)Reply

There was a non-existent category called "Turkish synonyms forms" in Special:WantedCategories that was there solely because you used acceleration to create entries from the declension table of nene and didn't check the results. Because the headers in the entry were in the wrong order, it erroneously used "synonyms" as the POS, putting the definitions under "Synonyms" headers, and put {{head|tr|synonyms forms}}in the headword line. "Synonyms" is a real header, so Kassadot just changed the # to a * to be consistent with the style for synonyms without noticing the lack of a POS header. Who knows when someone would have spotted it if I hadn't. There's enough insanity in our Turkish coverage due to Sae1962 without adding to it.

I've fixed all 8 of the entries, but please from now on take the time to look at the entries you create via acceleration so you can spot any problems. Acceleration is very helpful for creating large numbers of new entries, but it doesn't relieve you of the responsibility to make sure the results are correct. Chuck Entz (talk) 03:23, 8 February 2014 (UTC)Reply

@Chuck Entz A million apologies. I have cleared some of the wanted categories in return. --kc_kennylau (talk) 05:33, 8 February 2014 (UTC)Reply

The problem wasn't the category, the problem was the 8 entries with "Synonyms" as the part-of-speech header. Or, more importantly, the fact that you didn't check your edits, which means there may be worse problems still waiting for someone to stumble on. I'm not asking for a million apologies, or for you to make up for things after the fact, but for you to take the time to check things. Since we all make mistakes, it's best to allow for them in order to minimize the damage. Chuck Entz (talk) 06:36, 8 February 2014 (UTC)Reply

OK, I will be more careful in the future. --kc_kennylau (talk) 07:21, 8 February 2014 (UTC)Reply

I don't think jedno- is a separate prefix in Serbo-Croatian. It's just the word jedan. —CodeCat 16:56, 8 February 2014 (UTC)Reply

I see. What should I do? --kc_kennylau (talk) 16:57, 8 February 2014 (UTC)Reply

Hi Kenny. How would I add a blank tile (value 0) to our Scrabble board? --Back on the list (talk) 17:03, 8 February 2014 (UTC)Reply

▢ seems good to me. What do you think? --kc_kennylau (talk) 17:07, 8 February 2014 (UTC)Reply

How was I racist? Also, since when was racism disallowed from this project? --Æ&Œ (talk) 13:50, 10 February 2014 (UTC)Reply

I ain't an admin or nothing, 'twas but a friendly reminder, you can put it back if you want, I won't stop you. :) --kc_kennylau (talk) 13:54, 10 February 2014 (UTC)Reply

I don’t much care for joke edits, but I’m still a bit confused. Did you think that I was implying that Germans are germs? That was not my intention, or else I probably would have made it less ambiguous. --Æ&Œ (talk) 13:58, 10 February 2014 (UTC)Reply

Just assume that nothing's ever happened, okay? I don't wanna start an argument sorry. --kc_kennylau (talk) 14:03, 10 February 2014 (UTC)Reply

Hi! Regarding diff: I don't think it makes much difference which language section categories are in (maybe it makes a visible difference to people who use Tabbed Languages?), but the English categories (Category:en:Cakes and pastries, etc) were fine where they were in the English section; there was no need to move them. Second, "Berliner" is definitely not a "genitive plural of Berlin". If you're not sure about the part of speech of a German word, you can check de.Wikt, the Duden, or the DWDS, or ask me or another user. :) Cheers, - -sche (discuss) 03:30, 11 February 2014 (UTC)Reply

You have my deepest apology. As I was using mobile, I had no idea that I moved the categories (Self-defense? LOL). Moreover, you can always use {{diff}} to help you. Have a fruitful life inside and outside Wiktionary! --kc_kennylau (talk) 11:19, 11 February 2014 (UTC)Reply

You need to limit the namespaces for Kennybot's current project: it's been trying to add language codes in the middle of archived Beer Parlor discussions, for instance. I've spotted and reverted a few cases because they caused module errors, but there are probably more that got missed because they didn't cause any. Modifying archives is almost never a good idea, and having a bot do it using code that wasn't designed to operate in those namespaces can only make a mess of things. Chuck Entz (talk) 08:57, 11 February 2014 (UTC)Reply

@Chuck Entz You have my deepest apology and truest assurance that I have already added a namespace checker in my script. --kc_kennylau (talk) 11:12, 11 February 2014 (UTC)Reply

Please tell me. —CodeCat 03:29, 15 February 2014 (UTC)Reply

It links to the discussion of the current month instead of the main tea room page. Try it out in sandbox. --kc_kennylau (talk) 03:30, 15 February 2014 (UTC)Reply

It links to the current month, but the current month isn't necessarily the month that the discussion is on. If I start a discussion this month, what happens to the link in March? —CodeCat 03:33, 15 February 2014 (UTC)Reply

It is only starting a discussion in the current month. The plus sign is for starting a new discussion. --kc_kennylau (talk) 03:35, 15 February 2014 (UTC)Reply

Oh, I missed that part. I'm sorry, never mind then. —CodeCat 03:39, 15 February 2014 (UTC)Reply

No problem. --kc_kennylau (talk) 03:45, 15 February 2014 (UTC)Reply

In diff, Kennybot added "lang=eo" to a Portuguese hyphenation template. Just letting you know. —Mr. Granger (talk • contribs) 16:32, 15 February 2014 (UTC)Reply

Thanks. I've fixed the code and I'll check all the pages after I've done them all. --kc_kennylau (talk)

Just a reminder...this still hasn't been fixed. —Mr. Granger (talk • contribs) 20:58, 3 April 2014 (UTC)Reply

This happened on other pages as well. Are you planning to fix it? —Mr. Granger (talk • contribs) 14:00, 18 April 2014 (UTC)Reply

I don't think I'll be fixing it in the near future, because the language code is only for checking script, and those in the same entry will definitely have the same script. --kc_kennylau (talk) 14:04, 18 April 2014 (UTC)Reply

In diff and diff, Kennybot added "[[Category:English terms spelled with [U+FFFD]]]" twice. (Is this perhaps an encoding issue, for example are you working from a list of characters saved in Unicode format while your bot expects a UTF-8 list, so that the characters end up being both unrecognised and split?) Also, there is not actually a category "Category:English terms spelled with 𐑓" yet, but that's not a issue IMO — it has been suggested that other languages should only categorise certain characters, but I do think it's useful to have a "full house" / category for every symbol in English (except the really common ones like a and probably '). Separately, the bot can ignore subpages of Unsupported titles such as Unsupported titles/Less than three; these don't have their true titles as the pagename.
Thanks for adding all the categories. Most of the bot's edits, including e.g. diff, seem to be working just fine. - -sche (discuss) 17:13, 17 February 2014 (UTC)Reply

Regarding diff: before the 1996 reform, ck between two vowels was split across a line break by first converting it to kk and then splitting between the two k's, e.g. abbrök- keln. So the entry was right. If you've changed any others, please change them back. —Aɴɢʀ (talk) 20:36, 19 February 2014 (UTC)Reply

diff It added this category even though the article had it. —Mr. Granger (talk • contribs) 14:10, 20 February 2014 (UTC)Reply

@Mr. Granger Thank and fixed. --kc_kennylau (talk) 15:03, 20 February 2014 (UTC)Reply

It's unnecessary to ping a regular contributor to a discussion unless their input is needed immediately, since they will already have the page watchlisted. Because the notification shows up prominently on every page until it's clicked, the implication is that you're demanding your comment be read before anything else. People are no doubt cutting you some slack because they know you have a tendency to get carried away with things, but it will soon start to be a nuisance. Thanks. Chuck Entz (talk) 14:43, 27 February 2014 (UTC)Reply

Different cases for different people, at least I prefer to be pinged. --kc_kennylau (talk) 14:45, 27 February 2014 (UTC)Reply

Thanks again for making the templates accelerated. I have another request, however. It seems that the neuter singular form of the adjectives doesn't get accelerated - see on the page moráu - the neuter form morao is a red link, not a green link. Do you know how to fix that? --Back on the list (talk) 09:59, 3 March 2014 (UTC)Reply

I did not accelerate the neuter singular form, because the rules do not have the neuter singular form. To fix that, please replace the corresponding text with the text below:

// Asturian
creation_rules['ast'] =
	function (params, entry)
	{
		var template = {
			'plural':'plural of',
			'masculine-plural': 'masculine plural of',
			'feminine':'feminine of',
			'feminine-plural': 'feminine plural of',
			'neuter':'neuter of'};
 
		if (!template[params.form])
			throw new PreloadTextError('No rule for "' + params.form + '" in language "' + params.lang + '".');
 
		entry.def = '{{' + template[params.form] + '|' + params.origin + '|lang=' + params.lang + '}}';
	};

Thanks. I shall ask an admin to do so. --Back on the list (talk) 13:09, 4 March 2014 (UTC)Reply

Hi there. I am planning on running a crossword competition for Easter / Spring, but I need help in coding the grid.

It will be a square or rectangular grid of square cells separated by thin black lines. Some of the squares will be solid black (blocks). Some of the white squares will have numbers in them (small, in the top left of the cell) which will be visible even when a letter has been placed in the cell.

I can't figure out how to code it. Here is a trivial example - first a 3x3 grid with numbers and one central block; then the same grid filled in with letters.

Problems:-

• 1) There are no lines round each cell
• 2) The numbers should be small and in the top left of the cell
• 3) The numbers are not present when a letter has been added.

Could you figure out how these should be coded in order to solve the three problems. Cheers SemperBlotto (talk) 11:35, 4 March 2014 (UTC)Reply

@SemperBlotto Sorry for the late reply, I was having dinner. I have encountered this before, and I had given up. However, after trials and errors, I finally know now how to solve the problem.

Firstly, border should not be put into style.

Secondly, use cellspacing to remove the extra spaces:

Thirdly, style="height:15pt" to solve the remaining problem:

To make it a square, width=60pt:

• Thanks. Any idea about the numbers? SemperBlotto (talk) 15:42, 4 March 2014 (UTC)Reply
  • Actually, this is probably good enough ...

• @SemperBlotto I'm trying style="width:15pt" and style="height:20pt":

--kc_kennylau (talk) 15:54, 4 March 2014 (UTC)Reply

• • Thanks Kenny. Now all I've got to do is make the words fit and invent some clues! SemperBlotto (talk) 15:57, 4 March 2014 (UTC)Reply

Sorry to keep bugging you with questions. It's just that you understand coding far better than I ever will. I see you recently made Category:Latin nouns having red links in their declension table, which is great. Could you teach me how to do the same with another category, for example, Category:Asturian verbs having red links in their conjugation table? I hope with this knowledge I will be able to improve the project much more in the future. Thanks for your great work! --Back on the list (talk) 13:16, 4 March 2014 (UTC)Reply

I am more than honoured to take up this project. For some reasons in the coding, I would need more time than usual, so it will take more time, but I will embark on this. Please feel free to "bug" me more in the future. I love helping people. Cheers! :-) --kc_kennylau (talk) 13:29, 4 March 2014 (UTC)Reply

Hi Kenny. I hope you didn't break anything with the Asturian templates redirects. If not, thanks! --Back on the list (talk) 10:37, 8 March 2014 (UTC)Reply

Hi kc_kennylau. Sorry; I didn't mean to hinder what you were trying to achieve with {{la-decl-2nd-ius}}. I didn't see what function dkjbkanoidnfov=matched had; what's it for, may I ask? — I.S.M.E.T.A. 14:55, 12 March 2014 (UTC)Reply

It's to tell {{la-decl-noun-table}} not to check whether the genitive singular form exists, because {{#ifexist:[[{{{1}}}iī]],<br/>[[{{{1}}}ī]]<sup style="color: red">1</sup>}} will certainly return false. --kc_kennylau (talk) 14:58, 12 March 2014 (UTC)Reply

I think I understand. Does that have the effect, for example, of preventing Vindicius from being included in Category:Latin nouns having red links in their declension table even if entries for all its forms have been created? — I.S.M.E.T.A. 15:09, 12 March 2014 (UTC)Reply

BINGO. Cheers! :-) --kc_kennylau (talk) 15:10, 12 March 2014 (UTC)Reply

Hmmm. If it's meant to do that, it hasn't worked the same for Eckius… — I.S.M.E.T.A. 15:11, 12 March 2014 (UTC)Reply

Fixed. Forgot to add the receptor protein in {{la-decl-noun-table-single}}. ;) --kc_kennylau (talk) 15:18, 12 March 2014 (UTC)Reply

Good-oh. Lastly, why did you choose that rather strange parameter name? — I.S.M.E.T.A. 15:21, 12 March 2014 (UTC)Reply

So as to reduce the chance of successful duplication (cryptography here), although, well, it's not feasible as it's easy to be solved... Just think that I'm imitating ID card number or w:SHA-512 or anything... --kc_kennylau (talk) 15:26, 12 March 2014 (UTC)Reply

o_O   Now that, I won't pretend to understand. Thanks for the civility, fixes, etc. — I.S.M.E.T.A. 15:39, 12 March 2014 (UTC)Reply

Welcome. --kc_kennylau (talk) 15:41, 12 March 2014 (UTC)Reply

BTW, I just checked the red-links category again; it looks like there's still a problem with {{la-decl-venum}} and {{la-decl-vis}}. Apart from those two isolated cases, all the other categorisations look legit to me. — I.S.M.E.T.A. 15:46, 12 March 2014 (UTC)Reply

Thanks, fixed. --kc_kennylau (talk) 15:55, 12 March 2014 (UTC)Reply

Thanks again. — I.S.M.E.T.A. 16:11, 12 March 2014 (UTC)Reply

@I'm so meta even this acronym No problem at all. :D --kc_kennylau (talk) 08:51, 13 March 2014 (UTC)Reply

Hi. Please see WT:Votes/pl-2008-06/Plurals from proper nouns.At the present plurals of names are being added. There is no consensus whether they should be called proper nouns or nouns, so your edit of Deborahs is fine. But adding a noun definition like "A person named X" to every proper name definition is not likely to be accepted by the community.--Makaokalani (talk) 11:24, 22 March 2014 (UTC)Reply

Please see the thread titled "A Tweak Needed For template:derivcatboiler" at User talk:CodeCat for why I deleted this category after creating it. Chuck Entz (talk) 13:15, 2 April 2014 (UTC)Reply

Sometimes when there's unusual formatting in a discussion, it gets lost when the discussion is archived, such as here. I'm not sure how to fix it in this case, but I thought I'd let you know in the hope that you can figure it out. —Mr. Granger (talk • contribs) 20:56, 3 April 2014 (UTC)Reply

Sorry but I have no idea how to fix it. --kc_kennylau (talk) 08:26, 4 April 2014 (UTC)Reply

The problem comes from the fact that the whole record is a single parameter in a template. Any pipe character ("|") will be interpreted as end of the parameter (those inside of other templates are replaced by those templates with the output of those templates, so they don't cause this problem). I've been told that the usual workaround is to replace the pipes in the table with exclamation marks, which changes the style of the tables but leaves them as tables and doesn't interfere with the template. I wonder if there's a way to convert non-template wikisyntax into a form that could be included in the archive template. Chuck Entz (talk) 17:33, 4 April 2014 (UTC)Reply

Why do you do that? You realise Special:PrefixIndex/Template:langrev/ (and mw:API:Allpages with apprefix) gives exactly the same information, right? — Keφr 15:49, 6 April 2014 (UTC)Reply

Because they're spamming Special:UncategorizedTemplates. (P.S. Should I sort them according to the langname?) --kc_kennylau (talk) 23:02, 6 April 2014 (UTC)Reply

I do agree that it's better to get them categorised, but this is only a temporary measure. We really should work on getting rid of {{langrev}} altogether now that we have Lua equivalents available. —CodeCat 00:09, 7 April 2014 (UTC)Reply

The translation adder's language autosuggest is now very broken, as a result of the categories being added... --Yair rand (talk) 01:22, 7 April 2014 (UTC)Reply

I find myself very confused by the edit of Template:la-decl-3rd-I that you made on March 2nd. Every source I can find says that the accusative plural of 3rd Declension I-stem nouns is always īs, but you assert that is can sometimes be ēs, which is the ending for non-istem nouns. I'm tempted to revert it, but I'm rather new to Latin, and so it is more likely that I'm simply confused about something. Can you give me a hint as to why the double-entry for accusative plural is correct? Avjewe (talk) 13:25, 18 April 2014 (UTC)Reply

@Avjewe I'm not the one who said that it can be ēs, if you look back into the history. I've helped you search the history, and I found out that Mercator (talk • contribs) first made this note. --kc_kennylau (talk) 13:31, 18 April 2014 (UTC)Reply

@Kc kennylau Thanks for clearing that up. I should learn to read more carefully.

getLanguageByCanonicalName doesn't work properly yet, so this probably won't either. What do you need it for anyway? —CodeCat 19:24, 21 April 2014 (UTC)Reply

What do you mean it doesn't work properly? --kc_kennylau (talk) 02:40, 22 April 2014 (UTC)Reply

When it was added to {{ttbc}}, it caused pages to crash. Not just show script errors, but they actually wouldn't display at all. —CodeCat 02:43, 22 April 2014 (UTC)Reply

But Module error: The function "getLanguageByCanonicalName" does not exist. works perfectly. --kc_kennylau (talk) 02:45, 22 April 2014 (UTC)Reply

Do you mean {{ttbc|{{#invoke:languages/templates|getLanguageByCanonicalName|Italian}}}} would crash? --kc_kennylau (talk) 02:52, 22 April 2014 (UTC)Reply

Please don't add default scripts to templates. This negates the benefits of script detection so it should be avoided. —CodeCat 19:27, 21 April 2014 (UTC)Reply

Should have fixed all. --kc_kennylau (talk) 02:50, 22 April 2014 (UTC)Reply

Hi,

You may want to try Template:cmn-new (if you haven't already) to make new Mandarin entries. It's a real time-saver, once you learn all tricks, limitations and workarounds. --Anatoli ^{(обсудить}/^вклад) 04:21, 22 April 2014 (UTC)Reply

Thanks! --kc_kennylau (talk) 04:22, 22 April 2014 (UTC)Reply

Closed discussions should be left on the page for at least 7 days before they are archived. Thus, Talk:svaratelj was archived too early. I think it is okay to leave it archived, but can you please wait for 7 days before archiving in future? --Dan Polansky (talk) 10:06, 26 April 2014 (UTC)Reply

Okay, thank you for reminding me. By the way, according to the rules in the header of RFV, should all the previous requested be closed by now? --kc_kennylau (talk) 10:16, 26 April 2014 (UTC)Reply

Not sure I understand your question. Do you mean like whether people should go ahead and be closing old RFV items as RFV failed? Yes, they should feel free to do so at least in unambiguous cases; but this can be only done by an admin, since closing a RFV as failed involves deleting the nominated entry. --Dan Polansky (talk) 10:32, 26 April 2014 (UTC)Reply

Are you an admin? --kc_kennylau (talk) 10:33, 26 April 2014 (UTC)Reply

No, I am not. --Dan Polansky (talk) 10:35, 26 April 2014 (UTC)Reply

@Kephir Are you an admin? --kc_kennylau (talk) 10:36, 26 April 2014 (UTC)Reply

Kephir is an admin. You can see a full list at Special:ListAdmins. —Mr. Granger (talk • contribs) 14:41, 26 April 2014 (UTC)Reply

@Mr. Granger So you're an admin? --kc_kennylau (talk) 14:46, 26 April 2014 (UTC)Reply

No—I'm not on that list. —Mr. Granger (talk • contribs) 14:59, 26 April 2014 (UTC)Reply

I see. --kc_kennylau (talk) 15:01, 26 April 2014 (UTC)Reply

This is garbage. Not sure what happened here, but please make sure your bot doesn't do it again. This, that and the other (talk) 12:28, 27 April 2014 (UTC)Reply

Okay, checking. --kc_kennylau (talk) 12:36, 27 April 2014 (UTC)Reply

The dust has finally settled from the problem that you fixed, and there are still 42 entries with script errors. In case you're wondering: yes, those are real script errors- I've done null edits on all of them, and they didn't go away. When you have a moment in between adding templates to entries that invoke non-existent modules :), you might check into it... Chuck Entz (talk) 00:18, 3 May 2014 (UTC)Reply

It has to do with this edit by User:Wyangbot, whose owner is User:Wyang. I've already pinged Wyang. --kc_kennylau (talk) 00:33, 3 May 2014 (UTC)Reply

The errors are not caused by a broken template. Most of them are due to extra hidden characters (eg. [2]), some are due to incorrect and absent apostrophes, or other weird formattings. Now fixed. Wyang (talk) 02:52, 3 May 2014 (UTC)Reply

Your bot caused the "n" to be dropped from "can" in the etymology section of lante with this edit. Likewise here, here, here, and indeed seemingly on every page whose Lojban etymology Kennybot has edited. —Mr. Granger (talk • contribs) 19:38, 3 May 2014 (UTC)Reply

Some day I'll go through all the pages manually. --kc_kennylau (talk) 01:38, 4 May 2014 (UTC)Reply

Thanks for dealing with this so quickly. But now there's a module error being produced: [3] [4]. —Mr. Granger (talk • contribs) 14:10, 4 May 2014 (UTC)Reply

I'm using the error to track them, and I'm fixing them manually one by one. --kc_kennylau (talk) 14:17, 4 May 2014 (UTC)Reply

caused most pages using that module to err. eg. 長頸鹿, 侵攻, 男性, 點心, 柑橘, 錯誤, 電視, 東西, 朋友, 風水. I have reverted them for now. Wyang (talk) 21:21, 3 May 2014 (UTC)Reply

Hi Kenny,

Thanks for your edits. I'm brushing up my Cantonese right now. Might need your help. BTW, do you mind keeping trad./simpl. in sync, please? It's a good habit to edit both to make them look similar and have the same info. --Anatoli ^{(обсудить}/^вклад) 22:46, 7 May 2014 (UTC)Reply

Hi,

Can you help with the merger of some entries in Category:Min Nan nouns in traditional script and Category:Min Nan nouns in simplified script, please? even if just a few? @Wyang can some of them be done with your bot? --Anatoli ^{(обсудить}/^вклад) 04:39, 20 May 2014 (UTC)Reply

I have done all the multisyllabic ones. All yours now. :) Wyang (talk) 07:27, 20 May 2014 (UTC)Reply

I am not that fast :) Could you do your magic on verbs, adjectives, etc.? I might just do basic monosyllabic ones but there are are thousands of them, you know :) Automatic tasks are much more productive. --Anatoli ^{(обсудить}/^вклад) 07:31, 20 May 2014 (UTC)Reply

• You wiped out the Norwegian edit for pronomen that I did on 22 April. I have had to redo it. Greater care needed. Donnanz (talk) 17:28, 20 May 2014 (UTC)Reply

  I apologize. --kc_kennylau (talk) 09:16, 21 May 2014 (UTC)Reply

  Apology accepted, I was rather annoyed when I found out. Donnanz (talk) 10:55, 21 May 2014 (UTC)Reply

bogepatrojj, petrolozajn, senmentonajn, etc. I have no idea how many of these were created. —Mr. Granger (talk • contribs) 15:33, 26 May 2014 (UTC)Reply

@Mr. Granger See senmentona, bogepatroj and petroloza. Definitely not my mistake to have put a noun L3 header in an adjective entry. --kc_kennylau (talk) 15:39, 26 May 2014 (UTC)Reply

Well, you should make sure your bot checks the last letter of Esperanto words before creating form-of entries. In any case, bogepatrojj and NIFOj are certainly your fault, as bogepatroj and NIFO are nouns. —Mr. Granger (talk • contribs) 15:43, 26 May 2014 (UTC)Reply

@Mr. Granger The current Esperanto form-of template is impossible to process NIFOj and bogepatroj. You can try to manually fix that if you do not believe so. --kc_kennylau (talk) 15:45, 26 May 2014 (UTC)Reply

Then either fix the template, write the text manually, or don't create the entry. For bogepatrojj, there is no reason to create the entry at all. —Mr. Granger (talk • contribs) 15:48, 26 May 2014 (UTC)Reply

I have a way to track my errors if I were given the right to edit Template:eo-form of. --kc_kennylau (talk) 15:51, 26 May 2014 (UTC)Reply

• AND you're creating plural forms of uncountable words! prociojn —Mr. Granger (talk • contribs) 16:01, 26 May 2014 (UTC)Reply
• And this too: aluminia oksidon. —Mr. Granger (talk • contribs) 16:24, 26 May 2014 (UTC)Reply

  Okay I have no eyes to see now. --kc_kennylau (talk) 16:27, 26 May 2014 (UTC)Reply

Something you did put every single entry with this template (about 5,340) in Category:Pages with script errors, so I undid your recent edits until you can figure out how to make them work. Chuck Entz (talk) 05:53, 27 May 2014 (UTC)Reply

Hi Kenny,

Can you check this entry 咁, please? --Anatoli ^{(обсудить}/^вклад) 01:54, 28 May 2014 (UTC)Reply

@Atitarev Added some senses. Please check. --kc_kennylau (talk) 10:27, 28 May 2014 (UTC)Reply

Hi Kenny,

You seem to have a way to find etymologies for Chinese numerals? Could you please check/add etymologies for 一 to to 十 numerals? I have merged/fixed them all. --Anatoli ^{(обсудить}/^вклад) 01:04, 3 June 2014 (UTC)Reply

Well, the list is on every page of the Proto-Sino-Tibetan numerals. --kc_kennylau (talk) 06:19, 3 June 2014 (UTC)Reply

You seem to like running tasks for a bot, so you might like the following one:

1. Add ===External links=== sections to German lemma entries (not inflected forms), with a link to {{R:Duden}}
2. Ensure that these are only added for lemmata that actually have a Duden page; that is, ensure that the Duden link actually takes the reader to a page with information.

This should be entirely uncontroversial, since linking to other sites is a common practice supported in WT:ELE and since Duden is often considered to be the golden standard for German dictionaries. --Dan Polansky (talk) 10:08, 3 June 2014 (UTC)Reply

Well how would I know if the Duden page actually exists? --kc_kennylau (talk) 12:37, 3 June 2014 (UTC)Reply

You would have to grab the content of the target Duden web page from a URL, and then search for a substring indicating there is no content. For grabbing pages, see e.g. the Python script in User_talk:Dan_Polansky#Wikisaurus_statistics. For seeing whether there is content, see e.g. http://www.duden.de/rechtschreibung/unheimmlich (wrong double m), which says "Fehler404" and also "404 - Die von Ihnen aufgerufene Adresse/URL wurde leider nicht gefunden." Thus, if the content of the target page contains "Fehler404", there actually is no content there.

So you would start with a list of lemmata obtained from Wiktionary categories, and then you would run a Python script on it to remove those items in the list whose target page contains "Fehler404". After that, you would have a list of Wiktionary entries for which Duden link should actually be added. --Dan Polansky (talk) 12:45, 3 June 2014 (UTC)Reply

The following script takes a list of UTF-8 encoded German terms and outputs only those that are found in Duden:

import sys, urllib, httplib, re
for term in open(sys.argv[1]):
  term = term.rstrip()
  termURL = term
  # Assumption: the input encoding is UTF-8
  termURL = termURL.replace(chr(0xe4),"ae")
  termURL = termURL.replace(chr(0xf6),"oe")
  termURL = termURL.replace(chr(0xfc),"ue")
  termURL = termURL.replace(chr(0xdf),"sz")
  termURL = termURL.replace(chr(0xc4),"Ae")
  termURL = termURL.replace(chr(0xd6),"Oe")
  termURL = termURL.replace(chr(0xdc),"Ue")
  url="http://www.duden.de/rechtschreibung/"+termURL
  notFound = False
  for line in urllib.urlopen(url):
    if "Fehler404" in line:
      notFound = True
      break
  if not notFound:
    print term
  else:
    print >> sys.stderr, "Not found in Duden: " + term

--Dan Polansky (talk) 13:49, 3 June 2014 (UTC)Reply

@Dan Polansky I'm doing it now. Please check it while I'm adding links. --kc_kennylau (talk) 07:03, 5 June 2014 (UTC)Reply

Sorry to bother you further, but would it be possible to do the same thing for French, with {{R:TLFi}}? --Fsojic (talk) 23:29, 5 June 2014 (UTC)Reply

@Fsojic Of course! :) --kc_kennylau (talk) 05:21, 6 June 2014 (UTC)Reply

Progress report:

@Dan Polansky I have covered all German POSes and am checking every transclution of the mistake below.

@Fsojic I have covered all French POSes except adjectives which will be done tonight and nouns which will be started tomorrow. (Please refer to my timezone UTC+8)

--kc_kennylau (talk) 12:28, 6 June 2014 (UTC)Reply

Edit: I am still doing French verbs also. --kc_kennylau (talk) 12:28, 6 June 2014 (UTC)Reply

Progress report:

@Dan Polansky Miraculously, my modem did not malfunction during the course of checking, and I declare the German POSes finished.

@Fsojic I am now working on French nouns.

--kc_kennylau (talk) 02:35, 7 June 2014 (UTC)Reply

Thank you! Unfortunately, you seem to have added Duden twice to multiple entries, e.g. in Aussehen. Can you remove the duplication? --Dan Polansky (talk) 12:33, 7 June 2014 (UTC)Reply

@Dan Polansky Sorry to be irresponsible, but please manually check the edits here (only the first 500) where the edit summary says "Adding links to Duden" for me, because the duplication would only occur there and I'm currently busy. --kc_kennylau (talk) 12:37, 7 June 2014 (UTC)Reply

Never mind; I fixed it using User:DPMaid. --Dan Polansky (talk) 13:20, 7 June 2014 (UTC)Reply

Thanks. --kc_kennylau (talk) 13:22, 7 June 2014 (UTC)Reply

adding the header has gone wrong: diff --MaEr (talk) 16:36, 5 June 2014 (UTC)Reply

Thank you for the feedback. --kc_kennylau (talk) 23:02, 5 June 2014 (UTC)Reply

Hi,

The link your bot added here is not valid. Thanks for your attention. — Automatik (talk) 22:07, 8 June 2014 (UTC)Reply

Actually you should remove the links for all the words consisting of separate parts (I mean with space in them, such as the aforementioned), because the TLFI doesn't seem to have any entry for them. --Fsojic (talk) 22:13, 8 June 2014 (UTC)Reply

I had this idea for eliminating the parameters from instances {{topic cat}} of topic cat with no script code, which I presented at the Grease Pit a while back, but apparently nobody could be bothered- even though it would be extremely easy. I was wondering if you could do it for me.

The topical categories that use topic cat are, by definition, always named as follows:

"Category:"

followed by either nothing or a 2- or 3-letter language code

followed by a colon (":")

followed by the name of the topic

Topic cat takes 2 parameters: the language code and the topic name.

What I would like is a template- let's call it "tcez". It should use a module function to extract the the language code if there is one(or an empty parameter if there isn't) and the language name, and feed them to {{topic cat}}.

The result is that you could create [[Category:yue:Countries of North America]] with "{{tcez}}" instead of typing "{{topic cat|yue|Countries of North America}}", and getting an error if you have even one character wrong.

I've probably made it more complicated than it is- I'd be surprised if it takes much longer to create the thing than it did to read this. Thanks! Chuck Entz (talk) 07:22, 9 June 2014 (UTC)Reply

Done, at Template:tcez. {{subst:tcez}}. Wyang (talk) 07:37, 9 June 2014 (UTC)Reply

Not quite as simple as I had in mind, but I'll take it. Thanks! Chuck Entz (talk) 08:17, 9 June 2014 (UTC)Reply

I start it at [[Category:yue:Countries of North America]]. --kc_kennylau (talk) 11:39, 9 June 2014 (UTC)Reply

@Chuck Entz Is Template:tcez or Template:tcez/auto what you are talking about? --kc_kennylau (talk) 15:14, 9 June 2014 (UTC)Reply

Thanks Kenny for writing Module:tcez. I have moved Template:tcez/auto to Template:tcez. I hope there is a single template used for the templates in {{categoryboiler}}. Wyang (talk) 03:39, 10 June 2014 (UTC)Reply

You did not specify a function name, and there was no function to call there anyway. And this was my sandbox, things may disappear from there without warning. Please, look things up before deciding to break stuff. — Keφr 13:40, 10 June 2014 (UTC)Reply

More importantly, you shouldn't be doing experimental edits on a template with hundreds of transclusions- try it first on a copy. Tinkering like that is like stopping at a busy intersection and rewiring the traffic signals to see what happens. Chuck Entz (talk) 13:58, 10 June 2014 (UTC)Reply

Or you could use the "Preview page with this template" box right below the edit box. --Yair rand (talk) 17:48, 10 June 2014 (UTC)Reply

Hi Kenny,

your bot messed up some entries inserting External links and Category between definition lines. Probably these entries are affected, but there might be more if you have run the bot after the last dump:

• fonds
• fourmis
• abords
• crampons
• couilles
• aïeux
• statistiques
• meubles
• cymbales
• urgences
• favoris
• étrennes
• abois
• abattures
• fléchettes
• immondices
• lacunes
• appas
• lance-roquettes
• siluridés

Could you please fix them? (I've already done the first 2)Matthias Buchmeier (talk) 18:25, 11 June 2014 (UTC)Reply

Well, I don't think it's my fault for the category to be placed not at the end of a language section... I'll fix the ones listed here. --kc_kennylau (talk) 04:20, 13 June 2014 (UTC)Reply

OK, I'm in over my head here: 蒲葵. I can't figure out how to indicate that there are three ways of pronouncing this (fairly obscure) written form, which all mean the same thing. Cnilep (talk) 08:37, 19 June 2014 (UTC)Reply

Mischief managed: User:Wyang has added ja-altread templates. Cnilep (talk) 02:43, 20 June 2014 (UTC)Reply

Apart from {{ja-altread}}, more often {{ja-noun}} (or other PoS) is repeated on the next line, separated by < / br >. --Anatoli ^{(обсудить}/^вклад) 02:59, 20 June 2014 (UTC)Reply

I guess it's sort of a philosophical question, isn't it? Is this one word with variant pronunciation (which the current version suggests), or is it three words that share a written form (as three separate ja-noun templates would suggest)? (Sorry for hijacking your talk page, Kc kennylau.) Cnilep (talk) 07:26, 20 June 2014 (UTC)Reply

No, in this case it's just a formatting trick. A new header line won't make the count of nouns or other PoS larger :). Multiple header line are fine but it's a bit more complicated when you have to add multiple {{ja-kanjitab}} or decide just to use one with a selected reading or leaving it empty. With multiple etymologies and different pronunciations, the choice is simple but in this case - not so straightforward. I see you both (you and Wyang) decided to leave it without readings. --Anatoli ^{(обсудить}/^вклад) 07:50, 20 June 2014 (UTC)Reply

I just created an entry for the Chinese word for tuberculosis and found out that it's homophonous with another Chinese word. Could you make a Mandarin homophone template for the Pinyin reading jiéhé? --Lo Ximiendo (talk) 18:27, 20 June 2014 (UTC)Reply

Template:cmn-pron/hom/jiéhé --kc_kennylau (talk) 02:00, 21 June 2014 (UTC)Reply

TY. --Lo Ximiendo (talk) 20:53, 22 June 2014 (UTC)Reply

Hi,

In 目 - "Lua error in Module:yue-pron at line 169: attempt to call a table value". --Anatoli ^{(обсудить}/^вклад) 01:16, 4 July 2014 (UTC)Reply

@Atitarev An unpreviewable major edit on the modules is being undergone by me. --kc_kennylau (talk) 01:17, 4 July 2014 (UTC)Reply

That's OK, as long as you're on top of it. I was just letting you know. These modules are heavily used now, so... --Anatoli ^{(обсудить}/^вклад) 01:20, 4 July 2014 (UTC)Reply

You don't need to undo the edit as the derivation of the term from Latin is highly doubtful, therefore it is not appropriate to list it among Latin loanwords. Thanks. Etimo (talk) 10:58, 7 July 2014 (UTC)Reply

@Etimo {{etyl|la}} used to create Module errors, but now it assumes the third parameter is en instead, which added it to Category:English terms derived from Latin. If you want to remove the article from Category:Albanian terms derived from Latin, just use {{etyl|la|-}} instead. --kc_kennylau (talk) 11:01, 7 July 2014 (UTC)Reply

I see, thanks for the tip Etimo (talk) 11:20, 7 July 2014 (UTC)Reply

You never know until you see it in patrol, really. And speaking of patrol: you are a quite skilled editor, the community knows and appreciates you, you seem not to be in conflict with anyone (quite an accomplishment), you seem to have tempered your impatience a bit recently, and you still seem rather active. And since there is also some room for reasonably assuming you are not Wonderfool either, I have been thinking about nominating you for adminship. The perks it gives you: ability to edit fully protected pages, modify edit filters, to patrol, protect, delete and undelete pages, block users and grant them some lesser rights (like autopatrolled). And some infinitesimal amount of authority among editors. It would be good if you used each of these from time to time. Are you interested? — Keφr 20:29, 7 July 2014 (UTC)Reply

@Kephir Thanks for trusting me, and I am interested. --kc_kennylau (talk) 05:43, 9 July 2014 (UTC)Reply

I second the idea of adminship. You have been quickly fixing your errors and are doing a great job!--Anatoli ^{(обсудить}/^вклад) 05:51, 9 July 2014 (UTC)Reply

@Atitarev Thank you. --kc_kennylau (talk) 05:51, 9 July 2014 (UTC)Reply

Seconded. Wyang (talk) 05:56, 9 July 2014 (UTC)Reply

@Wyang Thank you. --kc_kennylau (talk) 05:51, 9 July 2014 (UTC)Reply

I wrote some BS for your nomination. Vote starts when you post your acceptance. 祝你好運。 — Keφr 11:44, 9 July 2014 (UTC)Reply

@Kephir 多謝！ --kc_kennylau (talk) 12:03, 9 July 2014 (UTC)Reply