User talk:JnpoJuwan

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Enjoy your stay at Wiktionary! Vininn126 (talk) 14:23, 25 April 2024 (UTC)Reply

I reverted you at Abrahamic because you made a mess of the senseids, which caused module errors in other entries. The purpose of this template is to mark a place in an entry with an arbitrary identifier so that other entries can link to that place or pull the definition from it. The text is arbitrary- it's easier to remember if it means something, but it could just as easily be "x1zf41". Don't change the text to make more sense- it's not supposed to make sense. Better yet, don't change it at all unless you also change all the references to it in all the other entries. Thank you. Chuck Entz (talk) 01:21, 31 August 2024 (UTC)Reply

I noticed your edit summary in diff and I went ahead and fixed all the incorrect IDs using this search: https://en.wiktionary.org/w/index.php?go=Go&search=insource%3A%2F%3Eadjectival+sufix%2F&title=Special%3ASearch&ns0=1. For the future, it's better to fix obviously incorrect IDs as soon as possible rather than propagating them. Ioaxxere (talk) 04:04, 2 September 2024 (UTC)Reply

@Ioaxxere thank you! I didn't do that since I just got warned at (see above) for badly updating IDs, as I didn't know how to search for them specifically across the wiki. great work! Juwan (talk) 04:08, 2 September 2024 (UTC)Reply

Hi,

'Translingual' means used across languages. AFAICT, ‟...” is unique to Greek. kwami (talk) 22:54, 7 September 2024 (UTC)Reply

@Kwamikagami sorry for my mistake. cheers! Juwan (talk) 22:57, 7 September 2024 (UTC)Reply

Hi @JnpoJuwan and thanks for your corrections; I'm assuming that expression isn't used in Brazil based on your edits. Is there any place on wiktionary where portuguese speakers can go to quickly clarify doubts regarding if expressions or words are or are not used in the other country?, because that would be really helpfull. I myself have encounterd - and corrected - words or expressions that were classified as Brasilian, but that are also used in Portugal. Just one more thing: is using the abreviation "idiom" instead of "idiomatic" considered deprecated? Because if it is, that's a bit strange considering en.wiki's penchant for using abreviations (as opposed to pt.wiki, for example). Sérgio R R Santos (talk) 23:36, 18 September 2024 (UTC)Reply

Oh, one more thing: I don't like to add the pt-IPA template to expressions with a few words because it looks too cluttery to me - but that's just my opinion. It just has too much information - not to mention that the transcription of European dialects is riddled with errors. Sérgio R R Santos (talk) 23:42, 18 September 2024 (UTC)Reply

@Sérgio R R Santos cheers! I don't think that there's any single discussion place for that. the best tool currently is checking existing dictionaries.

on the Discord server there's many Brazilians who can help with discussing region-specific terms, so feel free to ping them. (as a BR living in PT, I have also attempted to add some entries about pt-PT and run into this same issue ahah).

regarding 'idiom', that's not deprecated! it's just an alias, both show up correctly and are similar to redirects, don't worry!

about pronunciation, I respect that, but I think it is good to have the {{pt-IPA}} template in multiword expressions as there's some precedent and it useful for foreign languages in Wiktionary. Juwan (talk) 07:56, 19 September 2024 (UTC)Reply

Yeah, I dont mind if someone later adds the pronunciation; what I probbably sould start doing is to add it manually instead of using the template so that it looks less clunky. Thanks for your reply and have a nice day. Sérgio R R Santos (talk) 13:56, 19 September 2024 (UTC)Reply

I would still use the template, but please report any errors to @Benwing2! Juwan (talk) 15:50, 19 September 2024 (UTC)Reply

Adding them, I stress in your interest, of not making superfluous entries, violates Wiktionary:Votes/2019-05/Excluding self-evident "attributive form of" definitions for hyphenated compounds, respectively the last paragraph of WT:SOP. It may of course be that the spelling is used in English standalone, outside of compounds, so that the same pages can be created with {{alternative spelling of}}.

The template {{attributive form of}} has a purpose for other languages, where attributive forms of an adjective are different from predicative forms: Kildin Sami чоа̄һпесь (čååhpjes’). Fay Freak (talk) 15:16, 12 October 2024 (UTC)Reply

@Fay Freak I wasn't aware! thank you for your comments. Juwan (talk) 15:20, 12 October 2024 (UTC)Reply

Hello,

According to your user page, your username is supposed to be pronounced as /'juwan/ without "Jnpo". Is this correct?

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Thank you Flame, not lame 💔 (Don't talk to me.) 10:39, 18 October 2024 (UTC)Reply

Hi, where did you find this being spelled this way specifically. I've only ever seen it spelled as "John 50" both on /lgbt/ (primarily there) and Twitter. Not saying this spelling can't be a thing at all but I think it's absurd to lemmatize it here. It's an uncommon/rare form at best, to my mind. lattermint (talk tuah) 15:06, 19 October 2024 (UTC)Reply

@Lattermint hi hi, thanks for the comment! I don't use 4chan at all. I was being helped by a trans friend who does goes into the website cesspit, and she is the one who introduced me to the term (see my /en notes). while poking around I have seen all three spellings around and ended up with this one. if you believe that it is justified, please move the page to that spelling, full support from me! Juwan (talk) 15:13, 19 October 2024 (UTC)Reply

@JnpoJuwan Yeah I hope I didn't come off too rude or anything, but yes defs think it should be moved so I'll do that. I don't go to the site that often these days, which is for the better I suppose, but I did have a list of some trans terms including ones from there (one of which was John 50) so I'll drop it at some point (alongside other miscellaneous terms) maybe you could be interested in that. lattermint (talk tuah) 02:46, 23 October 2024 (UTC)Reply

Also what do you think of including the "John, a 50 year-old genetic male, ..." excerpt from the Avitale article in the reference cause it's kinda essential to the genesis of the term albeit a tad lengthy lattermint (talk tuah) 02:51, 23 October 2024 (UTC)Reply

@Lattermint you didn't come off as rude at all! I gladly welcome you if you want to help edit some more of these terms! please feel free to post your list and help fill some entries of my own. Juwan (talk) 08:04, 23 October 2024 (UTC)Reply

Is the Carioca pronunciation right, with /-ʃ/ instead of /-s/? Sérgio Santos (talk) 18:22, 30 October 2024 (UTC)Reply

@Sérgio R R Santos I honestly don't know! my dialect does not have word-final /ʃ/ so can't answer. I would assume that it is similar to EP as you have edited. Juwan (talk) 18:24, 30 October 2024 (UTC)Reply

Well I guess I could try to do the same with the brazilian pronunciation, but it's better to confirm with a carioca speaker first. I did a quick google search which was completely useless! Sérgio Santos (talk) 18:30, 30 October 2024 (UTC)Reply

I did a quick experiment and just replacing the "ss" with "ç" removes the Rio de Janeiro pronunciation; this IPA template can be a real headache sometimes. Sérgio Santos (talk) 18:34, 30 October 2024 (UTC)Reply

@Sérgio R R Santos that's intentional I believe, as it is covered by the higher order Brazil pronunciation. Juwan (talk) 18:35, 30 October 2024 (UTC)Reply

The pt-IPA template must be the most complicated IPA template on wiktionary. I guess the carioca pronunc can always be added outside of the template, like is usually done for dialects not covered by it. Sérgio Santos (talk) 18:40, 30 October 2024 (UTC)Reply

Diff is causing troon#Estonian to show up in CAT:Estonian terms derived from Deori, due to the line {{etymon|et|id=throne|bor|der>Throne>throne}}. Maybe it's the "der>" which is the issue? Not sure if the fix is just to remove that fragment, or something more. Letting you know in case there are other entries with this issue. - -sche (discuss) 22:28, 16 November 2024 (UTC)Reply

@-sche thank you for noting that! it was a trout-worthy mistake, for having two errors in one. the correct code would be de>Thron>throne! Juwan (talk) 22:31, 16 November 2024 (UTC)Reply

Why have you removed detailed information from Ido etymologies, such as at diff? Those "AFGHIR" considerations were quite important in the selection of Ido words. ←₰-→ Lingo ^Bingo _Dingo (talk) 09:06, 23 November 2024 (UTC)Reply

@Lingo Bingo Dingo that was an oversight on my part, thank you for pointing it out to me! I have reverted that etymology, please feel free to do that where you see it. Juwan (talk) 09:14, 23 November 2024 (UTC)Reply