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#indieweb 2017-01-14

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tantek what is a journalist?
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "journalist" yet. Would you like to create it?
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Loqi [indieweb] "IndieWeb Reply" on 2012-08-23 https://vimeo.com/48097093
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Loqi [indieweb] "The IndieWeb and Journalism" by ChrisAldrich on 2017-01-13 https://medium.com/boffo-socko/the-indieweb-and-journalism-fefaa97880c3?source=rss------web_development-5
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Loqi [indieweb] "Comment on The IndieWeb and Journalism by Chris Aldrich" by Chris Aldrich on 2017-01-13 http://boffosocko.com/2017/01/13/the-indieweb-and-journalism/#comment-33462
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@100daysindieweb Day 24: Displaying Reply Context in p3k #100DaysOfIndieWeb: https://aaronparecki.com/2017/01/13/20/day24-reply-context (twitter.com/_/status/820102363675435008)
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Loqi [indieweb] "Comment on The IndieWeb and Journalism by Marina Gerner" by Marina Gerner on 2017-01-14 http://boffosocko.com/2017/01/13/the-indieweb-and-journalism/#comment-33463
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Zegnat Has manton's micro.blog been confirmed to be self-hosted? This suggests it has: http://mjtsai.com/blog/2017/01/13/app-net-is-shutting-down/
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[jeremycherfas] [zegnat] My understanding is that it will be both hosted and self-hosted, but I could be wrong.
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Zegnat I don’t know. Just read that page this morning and was a little confused. But starts to sound like self-hosting will be a thing.
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sebsel It's confusing yeah. We have this: https://twitter.com/manton2/status/818666358548426752
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@manton2 @dougmckown Yes, you can bring your own blog and host anywhere. http://name.micro.blog is just a nice default. More portable than /name. (twitter.com/_/status/818666358548426752)
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sebsel But then there's this: https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/manton/indie-microblogging-owning-your-short-form-writing/comments#comment-15558115
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sebsel not sure if I got that # right
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sebsel "Will: Thanks! It's not downloadable software. Instead, the book is about how to use existing software like WordPress, Jekyll, and others to get started with microblogging, and Micro.blog helps tie everything together with a timeline UI, cross-posting, APIs, and apps. If you don't want to use other tools, you can also let Micro.blog handle everythi
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sebsel ng and it will host a microblog for you."
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sebsel Sounds like you get the domain .micro.blog?
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Zegnat I think the confusion here is if it will be hosted on micro.blog but lets me bring my own domain name, or if it lets me download the micro.blog software and self-host.
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Zegnat So far I haven’t seen a decisive answer
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Zegnat sebsel, re internationalisation, I now have a post using the hreflang attribute: https://licit.li/587a1a885766a
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sebsel oh, nice!
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sebsel (just sad that the user won't notice anything until (s)he clicks...)
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Zegnat That’s a styling issue. I might add a flag icon whenever the link’s hreflang != the post’s lang.
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Zegnat On the todo list.
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sknebel TIL about href-lang
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sebsel you could use emoji...
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sebsel a[hreflang=de]::after {content: ' \01F1E9\01F1EA';}
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sknebel (I should start writing these things down)
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Zegnat That’s what you get for not attending my i18n session at IWC Düsseldorf, sknebel ;)
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Zegnat I am not the biggest fan of emoji flags
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sebsel a[hreflang=nl]::after {content: ' \01F1F3\01F1F1';} < that's NL :D
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sebsel ah
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sebsel I'm surprised this does not already exist.
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[manton] @Zegnat Yeah, there's some confusion about this still. The whole platform at Micro.blog is not open source, although maybe eventually it will be. You can map your own domain to a blog hosted at Micro.blog, or just run existing blogging software anywhere and connect it. If people want to self-host I think it's a better approach to recommend WordPress and similar tools.
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Zegnat Thanks for dropping by to answer manton!
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Zegnat How do you mean “connect it”? How would I connect my blog to Micro.blog?
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Zegnat sknebel, sebsel, voxpelli, I just launched hreflang flags on my site: https://licit.li/
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[manton] You can just point Micro.blog to your RSS feed to get most of the basics. You can also use the iPhone app to post to other blogs via XML-RPC or Micropub. It has some special support for WordPress (for post formats and categories) but I hope will work out-of-the-box with a bunch of blogs.
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sebsel Zegnat++ :D
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Loqi zegnat has 30 karma in this channel (32 overall)
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[jeremycherfas] manton+
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sebsel (two +!)
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[jeremycherfas] manton++
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Loqi manton has 5 karma
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[jeremycherfas] Thanks sebsel
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Zegnat manton, interesting. Just puzzling how we could fit that with the indieweb ecosystem.
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sebsel well if we can use the iPhone app for any Micropub endpoint... that's surely usable.
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Zegnat Yes, a native Micropub app could definitely get more people to use Micropub. But you still need a CMS that accept Micropub.
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[manton] So, my hopes for the project from an IndieWeb perspective are basically two things: 1) support a bunch of APIs like Micropub, Webmention, WebSub, and microformats; 2) get people thinking about owning their own content and starting a microblog independent of Twitter. I've heard from a lot of people who want to start a new blog and just haven't gotten around to it or because the tools weren't quite right yet.
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sebsel manton++ it sounds good :)
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Loqi manton has 6 karma
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[manton] @Zegnat Yep. To be clear, blogs hosted on Micro.blog will also all get a Micropub endpoint. (Not quite working yet but should be soon. I started with XML-RPC since I wanted to post from MarsEdit on the Mac.)
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Zegnat manton, true, my biggest concern is just people switching from one silo (twitter.com) to another (micro.blog). So I really love the sound of your project, but at the same time I hope nobody will use micro.blog and all will self host to own their data ;)
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[manton] Fair enough. I can totally understand that. I want everyone to self-host too, but I also think there are a lot of people who need something 1-click and easy. (And if they decide to let Micro.blog host their site, it will be much more open, in terms of APIs and data export. I've built some export stuff that I really like, such as mirroring your entire microblog to GitHub Pages every time you publish.)
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sebsel yeah, not all silo's are equal. Micro.blog sounds like a nice one.
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sebsel Also: what is self host? I also pay my hosting provider
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sebsel So if one can have their own domain, hosted by micro.blog, what is that different then wordpress.com?
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[manton] Right. I personally distinguish a little from silos who have terrible non-portable URLs like twitter.com/username and silos who have username.whatever.com with an option to map a custom domain. Makes a huge difference.
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sebsel yeah on wordpress.com you can go from someone.wordpress.com to someonesdomain.com
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sebsel So then you pay wordpress.com for hosting, just like I pay my host for hosting now.
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sebsel The point is: I can move my domain.
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@dougmckown Social network https://App.net/ to shut down, open-source its platform #indieweb http://www.infoworld.com/article/3157772/application-development/social-network-appnet-to-shut-down-open-source-its-platform.html (twitter.com/_/status/820284113131307008)
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sebsel will Micro.blog support that kind of thing too?
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sebsel the overall question is: if micro.blog ever goes out of busyness, what happens? If I point micro.seblog.nl to my micro.blog account, I can alway redirect my visitors to any new service, as long as I control seblog.nl
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sebsel business* :/
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[manton] Absolutely. You can map a personal domain to it. It will be strongly encouraged so people can move if they want to.
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sebsel that's great!
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[manton] Part of the publishing backend is based on Jekyll themes. I did it this way so that you can move all the data easily and have your new site use the same files and URLs. (Compared with something like a custom Medium.com export... Difficult to get that imported into another blog.)
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sebsel yeah even medium.com a custom domain is horrible
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[jeremycherfas] manton I didn’t appreciate that I would be able to use MarsEdit, which I really like, if I decide to get me.micro.blog. That sounds interesting too.
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Zegnat Hmm, has anyone petitioned MarsEdit to implement Micropub yet?
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Zegnat An XML-RPC to Micropub proxy might also be an interesting project. Though I don’t know many XML-RPC clients to speak of.
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sebsel what is XML-RPC?
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Loqi XML-RPC is an outdated and verbose use of XML over HTTP to make API calls, sometimes errantly used as a synonym of MetaWeblog API (the most well known example thereof), that enables and implicitly encourages using your actual username and password (instead of OAuth) with client software, thus overprivileging that software, as well as possibly transmitting your password in the clear over HTTP https://indieweb.org/XML-RPC
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sebsel there is ^^^ encourages passwords over http :(
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sebsel Don't know how to make that Micropub-compatible.
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[manton] @Zegnat I've petitioned MarsEdit. :slightly_smiling_face: I don't think it's on his roadmap yet but he's aware of it.
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Zegnat That’s nice!
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Zegnat sebsel, you would just have to send the information that the proxy needs to login on your XML-RPC endpoint along. If those are your plaintext username and password, so be it.
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sebsel Ah, that could be the Authorization token :P
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sebsel is not experienced enough for this
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sebsel Wikipedia says 'many' sites use MetaWeblog, but gives no sources or numbers.
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sebsel WP is big for sure.
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Zegnat Yeah, so, when I say XML-RPC, I probably mean MetaWeblog.
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Zegnat Or I am just mixing up all those blogging standards.
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sebsel no, it's even in the dfn above ^^^ :)
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Zegnat Oh right, read right over that
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KevinMarks_ @sebsel - using country flags to mean language isn't a good idea. Countries are imperfectly multilingual too.
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sebsel I already had this with mapping both nl-BE and fr-BE to Belgium, which defeated the purpose.
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sebsel what is a good way to represent language as an icon?
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "good way to represent language as an icon" yet. Would you like to create it?
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sebsel lol
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KevinMarks_ I don't think there is one
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sebsel meanwhile, country flags are used quite a lot to indicate language :/
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Zegnat I think using flags for language is acceptable in that people have come to understand languages expressed by flags online
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KevinMarks_ I know, but it is saying the wrong thing. This is more obvious in countries with multiple official languages like Belgium and Switzerland and the UK, but still awkward.
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KevinMarks_ When choosing a language, show its name in the language you're choosing. When indicating an other language excerpt, show the name in the containing language?
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sebsel yeah, researching http://nmbs.be (the railroads) they use textual links
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sebsel fnac.be autodetects
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sebsel tries to think of Belgian things
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sebsel ah fnac uses 'nl' and 'fr' to.
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KevinMarks_ Amazon.ch used to make you use German
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Zegnat From -dev: I don’t think you would ever use the Swiss or Belgian flags. The Belgians are in the habit themselves of using the Dutch flag for Dutch and French flag for French.
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sebsel Zegnat I thought so, but I can't find examples online
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Zegnat Hmm, I’ll have to go searching then
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sebsel I had fnac and the railroads.
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sebsel http://www.hema.be/ > two Belgian flags with the names of the languages.
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Zegnat Also, for multilingual state such as UK, I think the Union Jack is pretty much assumed to mean English. You could use the localised flags for other languages such as Welsh.
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Zegnat Ha, that is confusing!
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sebsel what is lang?
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Loqi language may refer to human (or natural) languages or computer (often programming) languages https://indieweb.org/lang
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sebsel we should document these findings :P I assumed flags where widely used, but without examples we can't say
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Loqi I agree
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sebsel hm this also overlaps with /i18n
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Zegnat The use of flags as icons on websites is probably more /i18n than /language
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sebsel yeah my problem with /i18n is that it's not so much people focused.
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sebsel I feel like it's more for companies.
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sebsel I am not internationalizing my content
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sebsel I am writing in different languages.
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sebsel if I was i18n-ing I would translate each post etc.
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KevinMarks_ And you then end up with the monoglot assumption again.
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Zegnat True. /i18n is more about making your content international (same content) then multilingual blogging like you and voxpelli do. (And I will do as soon as I support it on the backend.)
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sebsel what is multilingual?
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "multilingual" yet. Would you like to create it?
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sebsel what is multilingual blogging?
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "multilingual blogging" yet. Would you like to create it?
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KevinMarks_ And Stephanie is halfway in between, as she posts French summaries for English posts and English summaries for French ones
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voxpelli I agree that globally flags don't work for languages, but for Swedish it luckily enough does – only one large language here
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voxpelli Stephanie's approach is interesting
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Zegnat Finland has two languages, but I think they too will understand the Swedish flag to mean Swedish
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sebsel multilingual blogging is writing blogposts in multiple languages, but not necessarily translating them into the different languages you speak
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Loqi ok
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sebsel is that a good dfn to start?
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sebsel language << [[multilingual blogging]]
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Loqi ok, I added "[[multilingual blogging]]" to the "See Also" section of /language
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sebsel what's Stephanie's site?
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voxpelli sebsel: http://climbtothestars.org/archives/2013/09/17/basic-bilingual-1-0-plugin-for-wordpress-blog-in-more-than-one-language/
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Loqi [Stephanie Booth] Basic Bilingual 1.0 Plugin for WordPress: Blog in More Than One Language! [en]
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sebsel oh
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sebsel multilingual blogging << http://climbtothestars.org/archives/2013/09/17/basic-bilingual-1-0-plugin-for-wordpress-blog-in-more-than-one-language/
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Loqi ok, I added "http://climbtothestars.org/archives/2013/09/17/basic-bilingual-1-0-plugin-for-wordpress-blog-in-more-than-one-language/" to the "See Also" section of /multilingual blogging
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Loqi [Stephanie Booth] Basic Bilingual 1.0 Plugin for WordPress: Blog in More Than One Language! [en]
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sebsel Well I have https://seblog.nl/english, but it's not linked anywhere.
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sebsel Also: I need to autodetect / re-autodetect my posts for language. I might've missed some posts.
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voxpelli I do autodetection of language within my micropub endpoint
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voxpelli selecting between swedish and english if it can pick one with enough confidence
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sebsel yeah I used cweiskes phar (listed on /language) to do that, but it gave weird errors
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voxpelli I also have a dedicated English Atom feed, but no dedicated English h-atom feed, waiting for people to solve it by parsing my lang="" instead
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sebsel (it made my Micropub endpoint 403 :/ haven't debugged it enough yet)
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sebsel haha that's good! don't fix things if you think other people should.
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Loqi nice
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sebsel I have an English feed I guess, since /english is a hfeed.
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aaronpk good morning!
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Loqi good morning
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GWG Good morning
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KevinMarks_ This "each text has exactly one language" thing is really Procrustean
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voxpelli Different sections of a text and even different parts of the same sentence can surely have different languages, but it will make it harder for people and systems to interact with
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KevinMarks_ Now Google translate is going all ml, I wonder how it will cope with mixing languages
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voxpelli Just tried some swenglish – Google Translate did not handle that well :P
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voxpelli Although when just mixing plain swedish and english words it actually managed to translate the full sentence to german :P
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sebsel language is hard
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sebsel https://seblog.nl/2017/01/07/4/seb-leert-unittesten-met-php-deel-1 < It's Dutch, but it's also very English.
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Loqi [Sebastiaan Andeweg] Seb leert unittesten met PHP (deel 1)
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sebsel just the title alone.
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aaronpk it's important to think about the reasons for marking up language in the first place
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sebsel this one, kind of silly, but what language is that? https://seblog.nl/2016/02/21/1/sjiphol-leedies-djentelmen-sjiphol
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Loqi [Sebastiaan Andeweg] Dis is Sjiphol, leedies en djentelmen. Sjiphol.
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aaronpk there's not a lot of value for marking it up just for the sake of it. but it's useful for both telling the browser which direction to render the text, and also for indicating which pronunciation rules to use for each word.
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sebsel (that's English is Dutch spelling)
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aaronpk for text to speech, you'd want to tell it that last one is Dutch so that it uses the Dutch TTS rules to pronounce it
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voxpelli and when it comes to indiereaders – to enable filtering or other action on posts that are explicitly in a language which you don't understand
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voxpelli on Twitter I often don't follow people that tweet too much in a language I don't understand and I hold back on tweeting in swedish because I know it might likewise annoy others
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sebsel Twitter does actually filter on language in search, I believe.
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voxpelli but not in the timeline
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aaronpk we should document these uses on the wiki
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sebsel what is language?
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Loqi language may refer to human (or natural) languages or computer (often programming) languages https://indieweb.org/language
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Loqi yea
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sknebel I think twitter-timeline (that would be a /reader then) usecase of "only show posts with photos/videos from this user/in this language" has been mentioned a few times ;)
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sknebel (which nothing I know of supports as of now)
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voxpelli indiereaders are probably the least developed part of the indieweb ecosystem
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sebsel is it okay to move the programming languages out of that article? it's such a different thing
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aaronpk sure, move the programming languages to /programming_language and add a link to it on /language in that first description?
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sebsel will do :)
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sebsel oh help, but now it needs it's own dfn :(
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sebsel what is programming language?
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Loqi https://indieweb.org/programming_language
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sebsel that's there.
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miklb heh, GWG I tested the new bridgy-publish and didn't catch that the new option is to *omit* the backlink, rather than *include*.
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GWG miklb: I'm messing with the settings right now actually.
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GWG There's an issue that was filed about default to checked.
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GWG I'm changing the settings page to allow that to be set on a per-service basis
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GWG iamwebrocker's PR includes the three Bridgy options for omit backlink. Not only True and False, but Maybe
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miklb yes, I saw the screenshot showing that. I wasn't familiar with that option prior.
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miklb just a thought, but radio buttons might be more intuitive there than a drop down
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miklb on the post page
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GWG miklb: Possibly. There is a space consideration. I may table it until after I see how the interface might look when I support https://brid.gy/about#silo-content
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GWG I might add a box to publish custom text
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GWG miklb: So, you should see more changes in the next day or two. As I said, I wanted to, before I started another new push on something, try to close some issues on all plugins. But I moved Bridgy Publish up on the list due having someone willing to test the changes, which helps.
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miklb sure. I've set it up as a submodule now, so easy to test. Any other plugins you want testing on, I'm used to running on bleeding edge code.
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@100daysindieweb Day 25: Automatically Fetching Reply Contexts for p3k #100DaysOfIndieWeb: https://aaronparecki.com/2017/01/14/3/day-25-reply-context (twitter.com/_/status/820339112318119936)
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aaronpk woo hoo
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Loqi [indieweb] "Day 25: Automatically Fetching Reply Contexts for p3k #100DaysOfIndieWeb" on 2017-01-14
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miklb aaronpk setting targets for me to aim for
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miklb aaronpk++
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Loqi aaronpk has 454 karma in this channel (1178 overall)
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GWG miklb: Amen.
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GWG miklb: My intention is to enhance https://github.com/dshanske/indieweb-post-kinds/blob/master/includes/class-link-preview.php with ideas from X-Ray
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GWG It's my simple version of that library
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miklb I look forward to digging into those features soon. Still ironing out front end bugs.
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GWG miklb: So am I. I wish I had the time to do everything I wanted to accomplish.
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miklb constant progress
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GWG Yes
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miklb GWG thanks again for all the work you've done for IndieWeb WP It made my transition much easier
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GWG me++?
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Loqi me has 1 karma
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miklb GWG++ yes
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Loqi gwg has 180 karma in this channel (196 overall)
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miklb still needs tons of work, but it's alive https://miklb.com
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miklb very happy with the notes section on home page
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aaronpk nice!
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GWG I like the line
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miklb the theme is totally cribbed from a html template, just converted to WP
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miklb I used your underscores IndieWeb changes. I'm sure there are some parsing issues still
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GWG miklb: I need to update that
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tantek good discussions this morning!
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tantek what is a subdomain?
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Loqi A subdomain typically refers to a domain with one more "name(dot)" component than that which someone actually has registered which is often seen indieweb sites with a family name domain like joel(dot)franusic(dot)com, or often on silos like matt(dot)wordpress(dot)com https://indieweb.org/subdomain
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tantek specifically the subdomain vs path debate above: https://indieweb.org/subdomain#Silo_Examples
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@DiametricSol The IndieWeb and Journalism http://boffosocko.com/2017/01/13/the-indieweb-and-journalism/ https://twitter.com/DiametricSol/status/820359985507012609/photo/1 (twitter.com/_/status/820359985507012609)
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@AnjieMakesGames I plan to use this weekend to enhance my skills in all areas, ads, graphic design, games, and web. #indiedev #indiegame #indieweb (twitter.com/_/status/820371301059756032)
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tantek is anyone posting RSVP "maybe" posts? or RSVP "interested" posts?
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tantek I'm thinking of using "considering going to " as a text equivalent for RSVP "interested"
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davidmead if i wanted to retweet something, with an added comment, where would i put that comment in relation to the u-repost-of class?
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tantek davidmead, "with an added comment" = not a retweet
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GWG tantek, I am interested in going somewhere, but nowhere specific at the moment
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GWG Isn't that a reply?
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tantek GWG, that sounds different from an RSVP since there is no specific event that it would be in reply to
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davidmead so tantek, do we have an mf class for that?
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GWG tantek, it is, but I would like to find some events to attend so I might RSVP to them
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tantek davidmead, you have to come up with a use-case / user friendly name for what you mean by "that"
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tantek before we bother with any kind of plumbing / implementation :)
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GWG Facebook I believe does that. Allows you to 'share' a link and comment on it. But not a full repost.
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davidmead understood tantek
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davidmead so does twitter GWG
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GWG That is a use case I always had issues reproducing.
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tantek davidmead, is your "added comment" the part that is important to you, or is the post that you were thinking of reposting or quoting in full more important to you?
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tantek davidmead, you might find this discussion useful: https://indieweb.org/quotation#Instead_use
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davidmead good question tantek. i just tried it on my blog and my comment was outside the class wrapper and didn’t get posted to twitter
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GWG The goal for me is to simultaneously share an article I enjoyed with others and add my thoughts on why.
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davidmead i’ll have to think on it
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davidmead exactly GWG, but isn’t that then just a post? that’s what i’m “struggling” with
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GWG Well, several people bookmark with comment.
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tantek manton++ for "To provide value it doesn’t need to replace Twitter. But also, it can." This is such a key way of looking at #indieweb things in general, and breaks the artificial dichotomy most people seem to be stuck in. https://twitter.com/manton2/status/820372146375524359
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Loqi manton has 7 karma
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@manton2 Key for http://Micro.blog: it’s a success if more people blog. To provide value it doesn’t need to replace Twitter. But also, it can. (twitter.com/_/status/820372146375524359)
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GWG A repost is the entirety of the other person's post
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GWG Do you want that or just a link?
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GWG In a reply, a reply context is a link preview of what you are replying to
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GWG To oversimplify it
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tantek alright, I did some digging in my own posts, and found three posts that start with "considering ...". 1 of them is about an event, the other two are about design and usage behavior
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GWG But a reply implies that your direction is to the author, not to your followers
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tantek the one that is about an event starts with "considering tonight's " (then event name)
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davidmead i think it’s more having it recognized in the context of twitter than how i lok=ok at it on my own site, if that makes sense GWG
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tantek GWG, it can be any kind of commentary, not just directed at the author
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tantek e.g. people that post links to various random news articles and make some comment about them
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tantek they're not usually expecting to just direct to the author
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GWG davidmead, that is different
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GWG tantek, point taken.
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davidmead ooh tantek, class = u-commentry-on ;-)
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tantek davidmead - that's not any visually etc. different from a reply
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tantek so no need for any new plumbing
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tantek looks like I'm going to start with "considering tonight's ", "considering today's " (about to use), and "considering going to " (any further in the future) as text shorthands for RSVP "interested"
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tantek documents brainstorming first
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GWG My goal by the end of the weekend is to Publish a note with Quill and automatically syndicate to Twitter with Bridgy Publish
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tantek neat!
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GWG Even if I only do it in testing by them (giving myself an out if I need some UI improvements)
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[snarfed] tantek: just fyi bridgy backfeeds and publishes facebook "interested" rsvps
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Loqi [snarfed]: KartikPrabhu left you a message 1 day, 17 hours ago: HOw about adding response-contexts to granary h-feed to Atom conversion?
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tantek snarfed - awesome! I will be testing that shortly :)
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GWG snarfed, is your brain available for picking?
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[snarfed] kartikprabhu: hmm maybe! file an issue?
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tantek KartikPrabhu?
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[snarfed] GWG: not really, sorry, on phone and distracted. later, or file issues!
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GWG Later is fine. No issues to file yet
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GWG I am pre issue
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GWG I was updating the README for the Bridgy Publish plugin and wrote that people should file issues for some things on the Bridgy page over the plugin page.
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[snarfed] sure!
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GWG Wanted to figure out how to best explain it, so as said, nothing urgent
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KartikPrabhu [snarfed]: ok
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Zegnat We have a new Indiewebizen! http://jesselisser.nl has just gone online with an h-card, after our great demoing during last HWC.
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Loqi Jesse Lisser h
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Zegnat sebsel ^^^
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tantek snarfed - hmm - didn't seem to work
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tantek markup seems to parsed fine: http://pin13.net/mf2/?url=http://tantek.com/2017/014/t2/considering-yoga-journal-live
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tantek checking log
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tantek weird: 2017-01-14 21:29:21.034930 W Error 400, response body: {"error":{"message":"Unsupported post request. Object with ID '1680863225573216' does not exist, cannot be loaded due to missing permissions, or does not support this operation.
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tantek manually trying it in the Bridgy web UI I see that Bridgy is parsing correctly: "Tantek Çelik will RSVP interested to this event. "
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[snarfed] tantek: is the event public?
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tantek yes
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tantek https://www.facebook.com/events/1680863225573216/
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[snarfed] OK! not sure then. evidently the FB API call to fetch it failed :/
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tantek also when I try to "Publish" manually with the FB Web UI, I get prompted with a FB login (even though I'm already logged in)
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tantek and then an error page
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tantek then redirected back to Bridgy home page (for my FB profile)
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tantek with error: "Facebook API error: {"error":{"message":"Unsupported post request. Object with ID '1680863225573216' does not exist, cannot be loaded due to missing permissions, or does not support this operation."
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KartikPrabhu this sounds like "-dev" ;)
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tantek yeah - drifted from user-centric "how do I RSVP interested" into debugging ...
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tantek unfort. snarfed is on Slack so no -dev :/
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sebsel Zegnat: yaay! :)
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[snarfed] thanks for the report, will look
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tantek hey at least we now have a real world indie RSVP "interested" post example!
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[snarfed] huh. fb api docs seem to imply that rsvping isn't supported at all. https://developers.facebook.com/docs/graph-api/reference/event/interested/#Creating
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[snarfed] I'm sure it was though. hrmph.
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[snarfed] even back to api v2.2. https://developers.facebook.com/docs/graph-api/reference/2.2/event/attending#Creating
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tantek so it was working accidentally?
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tantek or changed recently?
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[snarfed] not sure yet
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tantek looks for his previous RSVP
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[snarfed] shouldn't try to debug on phone :P
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[manton] tantek Thank you. I think that aspect of the #indieweb is very powerful. Improving the internet, one web site at a time. :slightly_smiling_face: Doesn't need to all happen overnight.
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tantek Yes! Also it can succeed without having to need others to fail.
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[manton] Definitely. Great point.
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tantek snarfed heh. I found my previous RSVP "yes" (2016-12-26 - 2.5 weeks ago) which *did* work via Bridgy Publish to FB: http://tantek.com/2016/361/t1/run-ecsca-marathon-relay caused RSVP "going" to https://www.facebook.com/events/204838133269904/
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Loqi [Tantek Çelik] going to @runsurfcity Surf City Half Marathon 2017-02-05! #runsurfcity runsurfcity.com 2017 races calendar shaping up. Signed up so far: * 2017-01-08 Hot Chocolate 15km * 2017-02-05 Surf City Half Marathon * 2017-05-21 Bay to Breakers 12km * 2017-0...
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tantek so Bridgy Publish RSVP worked as recently as at least 2.5 weeks ago.
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tantek just another data point if that helps
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aaronpk davidmead it sounds like you want to do the "quoted tweet" thing on twitter?
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Loqi [indieweb] "Comment on The IndieWeb and Journalism by Raam Dev" by Raam Dev on 2017-01-14 http://boffosocko.com/2017/01/13/the-indieweb-and-journalism/#comment-33465
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Loqi [indieweb] "Comment on The IndieWeb and Journalism by Björn Stierand" by Björn Stierand on 2017-01-14 http://boffosocko.com/2017/01/13/the-indieweb-and-journalism/#comment-33466
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Loqi [indieweb] "Super piece explaining how Marina Gerner, a journalist, is doing the indieweb thing without knowingly doing the indieweb thing, rather like the man who discovered" by Jeremy Cherfas on 2017-01-14 https://vaviblog.com/2017/super-piece-explaining-how-marina-gerner-a-journalist-is-doing
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Loqi [indieweb] "Comment on RSS Feeds: A Follow up on My IndieWeb Commitment 2017 by Chris Aldrich" by Chris Aldrich on 2017-01-13 http://boffosocko.com/2016/12/18/rss-feeds-a-follow-up-on-my-indieweb-commitment-2017/#comment-33461
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Loqi [indieweb] "Comment on The IndieWeb and Journalism by Jeremy Cherfas" by Jeremy Cherfas on 2017-01-14 http://boffosocko.com/2017/01/13/the-indieweb-and-journalism/#comment-33467
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Loqi [indieweb] "Comment on The IndieWeb and Journalism by Diametric Solutions" by Diametric Solutions on 2017-01-14 http://boffosocko.com/2017/01/13/the-indieweb-and-journalism/#comment-33468