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Heyy people. L here as in lesbian and loser. I like to write whatever hits me and hurts me, including fan fiction or just fiction. Enjoy, I guess.

Something so painful about Robin's coming out scene is when she says, "if he did know her, like really know her, I don't think he'd even want to be her friend."

She doesn't word her rejection like ‘I don’t like you because I like girls’, she words it as ‘you won’t like me because I like girls’.

She was so prepared to lose Steve's friendship, even after everything they'd been through together, not because she didn't like him in the way he did her and was about to make things uncomfortable between them, but purely because her queerness could erase their entire friendship in an instant.

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I find it so funny that stranger things kept using the holding hands in danger trope to hint at their ships then with Robin and Steve it was just a massive troll and they're actually just the wholesome hand holding kind of best friends

Mike needs to finally finish his campaign...

aka how the DnD universe perfectly reflects the in-show's universe, through a nested universe lens. A story within a story within a story...

As controversial as the nested universes theory is, I want to explain that there are many hints towards it. The basis of the theory itself is based off the DnD universe created within the show.

In the very first episode, Karen cuts Mike's campaign short.

Will rolled a 7, which meant the Demogorgon got him. Once Will revealed this to Mike, that sealed his fate. That's where the campaign ended. It basically ended with Will's character dying.

At the end of the season, Mike turns back the clock allowing Will's character to survive his fight against the Demogorgon. He rolled a 14 instead of a 7!

Basically after Will survives, Mike RUSHES to finish his campaign to the confusion of the other boys.

So as much as Mike wants to end the campaign there, ensuring Will's character's survival, he can't. There's still more story to tell.

The campaign finally continues in ST3, with Will leading it this time. Mike says "it's so early" because he doesn't want to continue the story just yet. Within the campaign, there's a ton of foreshadowing (that's for another post) but basically Mike rushes again to finish it.

This time, Mike gives up and allows their characters to all die. Will becomes very upset by this. Mike later deeply regrets it...

Mike regrets it because Will donated his DnD set, meaning... he was done contributing to the campaign. They sacrificed themselves and that was the end of the story. Mike absolutely does not want that to be the end! So what does he do?

He turns back the clock again... and continues the story for Will, but without Will.

Mike wants to go back to DnD to properly finish the campaign but is held back again... this time by Lucas who is unable to play with them.

This was why he is greatly affected by Lucas' basketball game. He was held back from finishing the story properly.

Erica (the recipient of Will's DnD set) continues the campaign with them.

They all nearly died again... by Vecna. But two characters were left and they decided to stand up against him.

The odds were not in the favour, but despite that...

They won.

Mike successfully changed the story in time.

The DnD campaigns are a clear reflection of the story within the show itself. A story within a story.

So... what if there's another layer to this?

What I'm arguing is that this may be a major hint that a Mike exists beyond the show and is the one writing the story of the show itself. A story within a story within a story.

Will originally was writing it with him, but he moved west (click the link for the symbolic definition of that... my apologies in advance... ), unable to complete it. Mike has to complete it on his own...

He changed the tragic ending to a happy one. But he must complete the story in time before it's too late. Full theory post on the details -> here. (Warning it's tragic and dark).

someone really hates 'playing by the rules'...

Didn't wanna lose more toys, you shouldn't have stolen from Nancy. and you didn't curse out Mr. Kowalski last week either, right? Or plagiarize that essay? Or graffiti the bathroom stall?

shawn levy was sooo pregnant with byler endgame in this pic

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miwi edit for the soul ☆

song: first day of my life - bright eyes

i wonder what he was smirking for…. hmm i wonder….

i feel like the difference between stranger things and other shows when it comes to queer couples and potential queerbait is that, for a lot of shows outside of stranger things, there were absolutely zero confirmed feelings on either side. it was ONLY hinted at in the show to draw a queer audience in, to make more money.

with stranger things we got robin coming out before they even made it blatantly obvious (and confirmed) that will was gay. they've been setting up the el/mike/will love triangle since season TWO. mike's character is a douche rn because he's trying to be normal, eg: the forced conformity line when eddie's talking to hellfire club at lunch. that's the theme for that season. every character feels the effects from that theme in season four.

like your honor not only does it seem that they love and appreciate their queer characters, but it also seems like they love them enough to give them extremely intricate and complex character arcs while fleshing them out as individuals in the process

Great point! The entire relationship is often only coding. This is also why I say that at this point, having Will having feelings for Mike at all would just be malice.

I remember being scared it was queerbait. Before volume 2 came out. Ironic, I know, but the only fear I had was that Will's feelings wouldn't be canon. From there, they've done it. They've committed. They're either appeasing straight audiences or they aren't.

I was rewatching s2 and I tried to envision Mike being that attentive and sweet to Lucas or Dustin instead of Will—It doesn’t fit. It doesn’t feel right. It’s too much for their relationship because they ARE friends. Watching the whole scene where Mike comforts Will and holds his hand but picturing Dustin instead of Will is mind blowing. It’s crazy how clear the romantic intention of some scenes become when you replace Will with someone who is actually just a friend to Mike. Could Mike be sweet to Dustin and Lucas? Of course—but not like that. No way. His moments with Will are special because of Will and how Mike views him. Whereas you could remove Dustin and replace him with Lucas in a one-on-one scene with Mike and not have much change in terms of the overall feelings of that scene. The scene wouldn’t feel off. Their conversation wouldn’t feel out of place between them. They also don’t have many one-on-one scenes together whereas Mike has a lot with Will—the heart-to-heart in Mike’s basement on Halloween, spending the day at Will’s house, holding his hand, sleeping by his bed, staying at the hospital with him and telling him that choosing him to be his friend was the best thing he’s ever done. Mike is a kind person but it’s kinda hard to picture him doing all of that for Lucas or Dustin. Or to picture Dustin doing any of that for Will. Even if you remove both Mike and Will from the hand holding scene entirely and imagine Lucas and Dustin instead it still feels off. It’s too much. They don’t talk to each other that way because they are friends. Obviously they all love and care for one another but it’s so different for Mike and Will. There’s a level of intimacy with them that obviously is missing from the other friendships because they are friends. In s4, during the rink-o-mania fight, try to imagine Lucas stopping to argue with Will instead running after an upset Max. Or Lucas stopping Dustin to argue. Even Dustin and Steve have cute and sweet moments together but not like Will and Mike. I’d even say Dustin and Eddie had sweeter moments together than him and Steve but it’s still not the same as Will and Mike. Now add Nancy and Jonathan into any Will and Mike scene and it doesn’t feel weird or off. Not much changes. Or flip it and add Will and Mike into an intimate Nancy and Jonathan scene and again it feels fine. It works.

Every single scene between Mike and Will in season 2 is completely and undeniably framed with a romantic tone, and that’s precisely why it doesn’t work if you replace Will with Dustin or Lucas—but it does work if you replace Mike and Will with Jonathan and Nancy, who are a fully established couple.

We see Mike’s dynamic with Dustin and Lucas all throughout season 1, without Will, and even a little in season 2 with Will present—and the difference is obvious. Even before Will was back, it was already clear that Mike’s friendship with him was different compared to the other two, simply by the way Mike reacted to Will’s disappearance versus how Dustin and Lucas did. But season 2 only reinforces this distinction.

If you replace Will with a girl in season 2, you are literally watching a love story with explicitly romantic scenes. That’s why this dynamic cannot be replicated with Dustin or Lucas—their friendships with Mike are clearly, explicitly, and canonically confirmed to be 100% platonic. But that’s not the case with Will, because in their scenes, you can feel that this friendship is different, deeper than the others. We don’t necessarily have the words to define it, but we know that there is something there.

And the proof? Mike is one of the people chosen to help bring Will back from his possession. They could have asked Dustin and Lucas, who are also Will’s friends and have memories with him. And it's not about who was physically present at the lab—Jonathan wasn’t there either. Yet, for Joyce, Jonathan (and Hopper), it’s obvious that Mike has as much emotional power to reach Will as his mother and brother do. So they let him be there to talk to Will.

And they were right—because it’s Mike’s memory that weakens the possession enough for Will to start communicating. Even though his hands start trembling after Jonathan’s memory, that only shows that the possession is weakening, not that it’s breaking. It’s Mike’s words that actually break through and bring Will back enough for him to signal in Morse code with his fingers. You can see it in his expression—how his eyes shift, how his brows furrow, how he starts to whimper.

I’m getting off track, but yes—season 2 is so coded as romantic between Mike and Will that it’s painfully obvious. I even remember watching it this summer (before knowing anything about the later seasons or what the fandom says), and right after Mike’s monologue scene, I turned to my friend—who had already seen all four seasons—and said, “Are you sure there’s nothing going on between these two?”

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"they kissed at the end of season 1 and didn't hold it off because people needed the payoff!"

They didn't even let Mike and Will pay off their HUG tension in season 4. They know damn well how to old out for better tension.

Went to a musical and a guy named Micheal kissed his guy best friend under blue and yellow lighting HELLLO?!?!? (And they played should I stay or should I go and running up that hill before the show started)

Mike didn't let El into his mind, although he sensed her like her mom and Billy. Somewhere he didn't want her (AND the audience) to see.

And he got very upset when he found out she had been

This is within a scene of Billy allowing her into his mind, also.

I agree. There's something he doesn't want her to see.

I don't know how anyone can doubt Byler when the whole California plotline was just to build up Byler and show the audience that El is better on her own. 😂

I mean what was the reason for all of that according to Milkvans?

Will saving their relationship? It doesn't make sense 😂

will byers when el dumped mike’s ass:

ib: @itslikesearcingforsomething

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" I think we should work together , I think it'll be easier if we- we're a team, friends, best friends"

blud this is not how you write an unrequited love story smh

And what if mike gets vecna’d and tries to find safety in a good memory and that’s when we get the miwi flashback (or one of the flashbacks)? What then?