Excerpts Form Interviews With Jackson Pollock
Excerpts Form Interviews With Jackson Pollock
Excerpts Form Interviews With Jackson Pollock
Agrinde Publications Ltd.: New York (1980), page 65; originally published in Possibilities I,
New York, Winter 1947-8:
I accept the fact that the most important painting of the last hundred years
was done in France. American painters have generally missed the point of
modern painting from beginning to end. (The only American master who
interests me is Ryder.) Thus the fact that good European moderns are now
here is very important, for they bring with them an understanding of the
problems of modern painting. I am particularly impressed with their
concept of the source of art being the Unconscious. This idea interests me
more than these specific painters do, for the two artists I admire most,
Picasso and Miro, are still abroad. . . .
The idea of an isolated American painting, so popular in this country during the
thirties, seems absurd to me just as the idea of creating a purely american
mathematics or physics would seem absurd...
My painting does not come from the easel. I hardly ever stretch my canvas before
painting. I prefer to tack the unstretched canvas to the hard wall or floor. I need
the resistance of a hard surface. On the floor I am more at ease. I feel nearer,
more a part of the painting, since this way I can walk round it, work from the four
sides and literally be in the painting. This is akin to the methods of the Indian sand
painters of the West.
I continue to get further away from the usual painter's tools such as easel, palette,
brushes, etc. I prefer sticks, trowels, knives and dripping fluid paint or a heavy
impasto with sand, broken glass and other foreign matter added.
When I am in my painting, I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It is only after a sort
of 'get acquainted' period that I see what I have been about. I have no fears about
making changes, destroying the iamge, etc., because the painting has a life of its
own. I try to let it come through. It is only when I lose contact with the painting
that the result is a mess. Otherwise there is pure harmony, an easy give and take,
and the painting comes out well.
From: William Wright, "An Interview with Jackson Pollock", in Pollock: Painting (edited by
Barbara Rose), Agrinde Publications Ltd.: New York (1980), pages 101-102:
WW: Mr. Pollock, in your opinion, what is the meaning of modern art?
JP: Modern art to me is nothing more than the expression of contemporary aims
of the age that we're living in.
WW: Did the classical artists have any means of expressing their age?
JP: Yes, they did it ver well. All cultures have had means of expressing their
immediate aims--the Chinese, the Renaissance, all cultures. The thing that
interests me is that today painters do not have to go to a subject matter outside of
themselves. Most modern painters work from a different source. They work from
within..
WW: Would it be true to say that the artist is painting from the unconscious, and
the--canvas must act as the unconscious of the person who views it?
JP: The unconscious is a very important side of modern art and I think the
unconscious drives do mean a lot in looking at paintings