Kobojunkie:
So, the minds are not at fault, it is the books to blame here with you?

Exactly

Cos minds wrote it too, whoever wrote it wants you to think in a particular way.

Do you think books wrote themselves?

They are not that powerful, why we say books are powerful is because they contain another person's thought, history or ideas and you have to adopt them especially when it is termed "holy book"

Kobojunkie:
So books are conscious and hence powerful enough to evoke different meanings from their contents? Or do you instead mean that the minds of men are powerful enough to evoke different meanings from the static contents of books?

If the books were left alone, it can't do anything to anybody's mind...

Kobojunkie:
Against a mere book made of paper and glue?

Books are powerful even if it's written on the wall

Kobojunkie:
So, because nothing in your life is permanent, even the histories of people contained in books should be reviewed?

When the history changes from chapter to chapter, interpretation to interpretation I don't see it tells you to do anything right

Kobojunkie:
The choice to be guided is wholly yours to make. So, why attack a book for this?

The book attacks you already, it's at least a thousand years old and you should live by it

Kobojunkie:
The choice to be guided is wholly yours to make. So, why attack a book for this?

Attack is the best form of defence

Kobojunkie:
What is scripture that it should be rendered obsolete after a hundred years?

Nothing is permanent in life...

Even Constitutions are set aside or reviewed from time to time

Kobojunkie:
. But what exactly is a holy book, though? Are they books that don't burn or books that confer miracles on those who handle them? What are they? We have seen videos of a Quran, a BIble, and even a Torah on fire, and all 3 of them have burned the same as other books. So, what exactly is a holy book for you to suggest it ought to be retired after 1000 years?

2. You can always write your own book if you want, but to insist that a book written by someone else should be banned, you should have a good reason for that, right?

It may not be banned but I don't see why I should be guided by a book written so many years ago by some people who have nothing in common with me

Kobojunkie:
. But what exactly is a holy book, though? Are they books that don't burn or books that confer miracles on those who handle them? What are they? We have seen videos of a Quran, a BIble, and even a Torah on fire, and all 3 of them have burned the same as other books. So, what exactly is a holy book for you to suggest it ought to be retired after 1000 years?

Any scripture shouldn't be viable after a hundred years...

Kobojunkie:
That is sort of the gist I got, too, but I didn't really get a straightforward/direct answer in that case since the opinions of the different Muslims on the thread seemed to change a bit at that point.

Yeah

There's one other christain zealot here, who claims that Christians exist even before Jesus Christ...

He said there were Christians in Genesis

I think the guy is really daft

Kobojunkie:
But here, the verse quoted in the OP asserts — a claim made over 2000 years after the man in question is written to have drowned —that the Pharoah eventually submitted to a god, making him a Muslim before his end.

I am of the school of thought that "holy books" should be retired after 100 years...

We need new books written in our time obviously

Kobojunkie:
Not according to Islamics who instead believe that anyone who submits to a god — any god— is a Muslim, or so I have been told.

Oh okay

I get you, I get maxindhouse too, this means that if I only believe in Ogun god of iron I am a Muslim right?

MaxInDHouse:

The problem is Islam in itself a believer in one god is a Muslim (according to Islam) whoever agrees that there is only one God is automatically a Muslim but that's not the truth.
Pharaoh believe in many gods but he quickly released the Israelites when he realized that the God who sent Moses is mightier than all the Gods in Egypt.
Now to an average Muslim that submission automatically qualifies Pharaoh to be called a Muslim.
Muslims can't prove the OP wrong on this since fighting and killing fellow believers means nothing to Muslims so far both sides are fighting for a just course in their hearts.

I get your drift...

Pharaoh didn't worship gods tho...

He was d god, he never knew there was another god other than him.

StillDtruth:


Luke 4 says you are Lying. Relying on the fact that the word Christianity "began to be used" only after Antioch does not negate that it had already begun over long since before the Word Christ and Christianity was born.

Exactly how you can not rightly say that Nigeria did not exist until Flora Shaw coined the name

Yes Nigeria did not exist until 1914 when the northern and southern protectorates were almagamated and the name was coined.

So who were the Christians in Genesis?

Pls I am waiting...

StillDtruth:


Wrong.
Genesis and Luke 4 show you when Christianity started

There was no Christian in Genesis...

MightySparrow:


.... but this is Quran sent down from heaven.... bearing witnesses that Pharaoh was a Muslim.

Well then... But historically, Judaism started before Christianity, and Christianity started before Islam...

So Pharaoh couldn't have been a Muslim, there were no Muslims in his era

Islam was not around then, Christianity too...

Those Israelites were Jews, Jesus Christ too

Christianity started after Jesus was crucified, Islam started let's say 400 years later...

FengChui:


Unilorin? That bush? Abeg talk of better school. Even though Uniqbuja was a glorified secondary school, we still like am pass una Unilorin. If you waka the walk way finish for unilorin, wetin remain?

U have not been there since 2010 obviously...

ObaaOfYorubaLan:


No wonder the devil who called himself Buhari said that you guys are lazy youths. Your mates in China and Germany are revisiting what their forefathers used in manufacturing things, but here all you lazy hungry youths are revisiting what you guys used in fvcking girls in 90s. Useless youths

Are u sure I am the one u wanted to quote..?

Like do u know how to quote on NL?

Mohisah:
Since IBB, only that it wasn't developed compare to this day

That's what I mean, it's a baby uni, under construction for years, who even goes to UNIABUJA until Good luck Jonathan...

Mohisah:
baby as how😂? Uni of 88'

When did they have a permanent site sef...

Truth...

U are in trouble then...

sacajawea:

Who are your favourites in the industry

I have favorite songs but not favorite artistses...

martinmiller:
Three things I don't like engaging publicly are RELIGION, SELF ACCOMPLISHMENT, AND POLITICS.

People will always have dirty views or cannot reason out matters constructively - if you are not a kingdom practitioner you don't have any meaningful input to this story or news. That pastor who donated 250million knows why he did what he did and he as more coz that Cannnot be the last card in his bank account and non of you here can tell the pastor how to spend his money.

You see poverty is not good thing, your job is to pray and rebuke poverty in your life so that you can afford basic things of life - how much is 259million. Do you know how much some people pay as their thithe monthly? You will marvel, how many of you on this platform can boast of six million sitting pretty in your account?

You people should go and sit down and drink plenty of water.

And stop yearning dust.

So how did he get his money...

He doesn't even need all that

50 50

No cheating...

You did not mention UNILORIN and u mention UNIABUJA a baby uni

No comment...


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Wealthoptulent:

WERIN e write bfr, u wan SPOIL DAVID career?

make david begin dey sell ie PROPERTIES SOON too..
this wan wey dey sell person else properrties


werin e wan talk be say e donb begin dey sell properrties and CARS; DEALER as music no favour am. kini dero nko



as e dey do her e dey run am on IG and X, na NWAKAIPE jr brov

Some people do rap music, some do trap music

He does the same genre with Davido

I mean crap music...

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Wordsfrombimpe:
I have announced it several times

I am not on Pornhub again check previous post

Yes I like to look sexy and it’s my style

Because I am working I can’t look sexy again

You can look sexy...