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Shirayuki (talkcontribs)

The following descriptions on Help:Extension:Translate/Page translation administration seem contradictory, don't they?

  • The previously written "For translators these will show up only as $name, and in translation pages will automatically be replaced by the value defined in the translatable page (so they are global constants across all its translation pages)."
  • The recently added "Note that variables are not shared between different translation units. If you want to use the same variable in more than one unit, you must repeat the code in each unit. You can use the same name."
Tacsipacsi (talkcontribs)

It’s indeed confusing, but not actually contradictory:

  • Translation variables are shared between translation pages, i.e. languages.
  • Translation variables aren’t shared between translation units, i.e. parts of the source page (which, just to further increase confusion, is ‘officially’ called the translatable page).
Want (talkcontribs)

It's a matter of terminology.

Translation variables are shared between language subpages

and to

... just to further increase confusion, is ‘officially’ called the translatable page

When I try someone explains how it works, I talk about the original page (translatable page) and the language subpages (translations).

Language of the origin page must be changed by content language, because the origin language is a key to translation direction. Language of my wiki is Czech, but some pages has a origin in the english or polish language and language of page must be changed. If you don't, it starts causing problems.

Shirayuki (talkcontribs)

Got it. But calling something that is shared only between the source text and its translations within a single translation unit global constants seems like an overstatement to me.

Want (talkcontribs)

Yes, I agree.

I've mentioned several times in various posts that I write my own documentation shere show the examples using of code and really effects on the content of the translatable page.

Translation variable as called here, is really a placeholder for a piece of code taken out of translation.

I must everytime found a optimal terminology of the new technologies, because I do parallel work with three different languages. The MediaWiki system changes over time, and I have to keep changing the content of the documentation accordingly.

Manual about preparing of translatable pages I was can able to change after MW 1.39 upgraded, because syntax of tag <tvar> changed and now is before me the upgrade to MW 1.43 (LTS) and I'm honestly dreading it because here I see what has been broken within a woke culture. Sometime I think if any developer thinks about consequences of changes.

For example, excluding the img tag from the wikicode meant for me looking a new solution, which of course I had to program myself. For it I started maitaining of the Extension:EImage, (which I was continually use), implemented functions which can do it now, and pushed changes into official git repository. Every can use this code, if want. But spended time by coding missing me.

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Copy documentation to Wikibase/Docker and make it translatable

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Shirayuki (talkcontribs)
Pppery (talkcontribs)

In theory you're right. In practice the devs unlikely to have the will or effort to maintain documentation in multiple places and if they prefer it on GitHub any local translations will just bitrot away.

Jdforrester (WMF) (talkcontribs)

Shouldn't this thread be on that work's talk page, Talk:Wikibase/Docker? Whatever the rest of us may think, it's their documentation and their decision on what should live where.

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Vote now to select members of the first U4C

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