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The Most Fun We Ever Had
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The Most Fun We Ever Had grew on me like a rash: the more I read this book the more I grew firm in my opinion that not only did I dislike it, but that I in fact actively hated it. Its bloated length—532 pages—is almost designed to make its every fault as glaring and grating as possible. (i started listening to its audiobook at 1.25x speed and finished it listening at 2.5x speed so make of that what you will lol)
Here's a very extensive list of some of the things about Lombardo's writing that deeply irritated me.
► The number of times Lombardo mentions how much Marilyn and David love each other. OHHH MYYY GOOODDD. we!!! get!!!! it!!!!! marilyn needs david like she needs air to breathe !!!! david worships the ground marilyn walks on !!! they have sex like 4097234 times a day and touch each other all the time and somehow communicate paragraphs' worth of information with a single look and wE GET IT YOU HAVE MADE YOUR POINT PLS STOP
► The number of times characters watch other characters having sex. There's at least 3 instances in this book where a character stumbles upon 2 other characters on their way to having, or actually having, sex. one of those times involves a 15-year-old character watching some guy giving his aunt oral sex and the other a teen girl watching her parents on their way to having sex on the sofa and that is, on both counts, very...uncomfortable, to say the least. and the scenes are described in detail too and I just...did we really need this kind of extremely weird voyeurism ?
► The language used in this book is just so bad; it felt as though the book was going out of its way to be shitty. Some choice examples: "We're in a weirdly speedy schedule tonight. Mom's in schizoid mode", ""Who's that horrible Judd Nelson boy who was sitting in the back row? He looks like a school shooter", "Her r*tarded eraser collection means a lot to her". The list goes on and on. Obviously each of these examples is bad, but it's the writing's persistent and unrelenting lack of sensitivity that got to me, its contempt for just about everything and everyone.
► i wanna talk about how the book portrays one of the characters—Ryan, Liza's husband—who has depression. i don't have depression so definitely take my opinion with a grain of salt, but the rep was, in my view, Not Good. in fact, it was Bad, Really Bad. the moment Lombardo introduced him i knew it wasn't going to go down well. because all he is in this book is a huge burden to his wife. that's literally it. he's a pathetic "man-child" who sits at home all day and plays video games and thwarts his poor wife's every attempt to get him to do something productive. first of all, HE IS DEPRESSED. i think that would qualify as a pretty significant extenuating circumstance. but more than that, the way he's represented makes it seem as though it's his fault he's depressed. like if he'd just get up and make an effort, everything would be okay. like oh his poor wife is working sooOoO much and trying soOoO hard to be good for him and he's refusing to cooperate or do anything for her sake !!! isnt he such a huge burden !! if only he would just, like, do better !! (view spoiler) it's just so reductive. don't give me a character who's depressed and then villainize him because he's depressed.
second of all, no one does literally anything to help him. it's quickly mentioned at one point in the novel that's he on Prozac, but that's about it. no one suggests therapy, or better medication, or new medication, or literally any help of any kind. does his wife think his depression will just disappear ?? that if he works hard enough he'll "beat it" or something ?? oh yeah, and his wife has a degree in PSYCHOLOGY—the irony could not be more painful.
Aside from the mess that I just outlined, I also didn't like any of the characters. Most of them were annoying more than anything else, but oh boy one of them, Wendy, might be the most annoying character I've read so far this year. I hated her with a burning passion. she was AWFUL 99.9999% of the time and no amount of tragic backstory can convince me that she wasn't.
Anyway, a family saga is only as good as its family, and when you don't give an iota of a shit about the family that said family saga hinges on, then that's not an especially good sign....
Here's a very extensive list of some of the things about Lombardo's writing that deeply irritated me.
► The number of times Lombardo mentions how much Marilyn and David love each other. OHHH MYYY GOOODDD. we!!! get!!!! it!!!!! marilyn needs david like she needs air to breathe !!!! david worships the ground marilyn walks on !!! they have sex like 4097234 times a day and touch each other all the time and somehow communicate paragraphs' worth of information with a single look and wE GET IT YOU HAVE MADE YOUR POINT PLS STOP
► The number of times characters watch other characters having sex. There's at least 3 instances in this book where a character stumbles upon 2 other characters on their way to having, or actually having, sex. one of those times involves a 15-year-old character watching some guy giving his aunt oral sex and the other a teen girl watching her parents on their way to having sex on the sofa and that is, on both counts, very...uncomfortable, to say the least. and the scenes are described in detail too and I just...did we really need this kind of extremely weird voyeurism ?
► The language used in this book is just so bad; it felt as though the book was going out of its way to be shitty. Some choice examples: "We're in a weirdly speedy schedule tonight. Mom's in schizoid mode", ""Who's that horrible Judd Nelson boy who was sitting in the back row? He looks like a school shooter", "Her r*tarded eraser collection means a lot to her". The list goes on and on. Obviously each of these examples is bad, but it's the writing's persistent and unrelenting lack of sensitivity that got to me, its contempt for just about everything and everyone.
► i wanna talk about how the book portrays one of the characters—Ryan, Liza's husband—who has depression. i don't have depression so definitely take my opinion with a grain of salt, but the rep was, in my view, Not Good. in fact, it was Bad, Really Bad. the moment Lombardo introduced him i knew it wasn't going to go down well. because all he is in this book is a huge burden to his wife. that's literally it. he's a pathetic "man-child" who sits at home all day and plays video games and thwarts his poor wife's every attempt to get him to do something productive. first of all, HE IS DEPRESSED. i think that would qualify as a pretty significant extenuating circumstance. but more than that, the way he's represented makes it seem as though it's his fault he's depressed. like if he'd just get up and make an effort, everything would be okay. like oh his poor wife is working sooOoO much and trying soOoO hard to be good for him and he's refusing to cooperate or do anything for her sake !!! isnt he such a huge burden !! if only he would just, like, do better !! (view spoiler) it's just so reductive. don't give me a character who's depressed and then villainize him because he's depressed.
second of all, no one does literally anything to help him. it's quickly mentioned at one point in the novel that's he on Prozac, but that's about it. no one suggests therapy, or better medication, or new medication, or literally any help of any kind. does his wife think his depression will just disappear ?? that if he works hard enough he'll "beat it" or something ?? oh yeah, and his wife has a degree in PSYCHOLOGY—the irony could not be more painful.
Aside from the mess that I just outlined, I also didn't like any of the characters. Most of them were annoying more than anything else, but oh boy one of them, Wendy, might be the most annoying character I've read so far this year. I hated her with a burning passion. she was AWFUL 99.9999% of the time and no amount of tragic backstory can convince me that she wasn't.
Anyway, a family saga is only as good as its family, and when you don't give an iota of a shit about the family that said family saga hinges on, then that's not an especially good sign....
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Reading Progress
June 15, 2019
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June 15, 2019
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July 8, 2019
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Started Reading
July 8, 2019
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July 11, 2019
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20.0%
July 11, 2019
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20.0%
"this is enjoyable so far but every once in a while a character will say something rli offensive and its starting to get on my nerves (e.g. a character just said the r word ? a billion people looked over this book and not a single one thought that its use of the r word was, um, problematic as hell ? ok...)"
July 13, 2019
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30.0%
July 15, 2019
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39.0%
July 16, 2019
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49.0%
"wendy is such an asshole omg there is no sad backstory that can make up for how much of a dick she is to literally everyone"
July 17, 2019
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64.0%
July 18, 2019
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78.0%
"i started out listening to this at 1.2x speed and now im at 2x speed and this book *still* wont end why isss ittt sooo loooonnngggg"
July 19, 2019
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Finished Reading
May 15, 2022
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I’m fuming you really articulated your rage very well
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Thea wrote: "I’m fuming you really articulated your rage very well"
this is the highest compliment i can receive it is an honour to also make you angry with me THANK YOU
this is the highest compliment i can receive it is an honour to also make you angry with me THANK YOU
Awesome review Fatma! I loved it. I haven’t read this book because I have seen reviews on how depressing it is and I feel that it is false advertising to name a depressing book like that. But you’re comments are so great. I enjoyed your review so much more than I’m sure I ever would the book.
Ꮗ€♫◗☿ wrote: "Awesome review Fatma! I loved it. I haven’t read this book because I have seen reviews on how depressing it is and I feel that it is false advertising to name a depressing book like that. But you’r..."
thank you so much!! i totally get what you mean--there's been so much hype surrounding this book, and its been a really big title ever since it came out, but i rli didnt think it deserved all that hype... :/
thank you so much!! i totally get what you mean--there's been so much hype surrounding this book, and its been a really big title ever since it came out, but i rli didnt think it deserved all that hype... :/
People don’t always use PC language and I’m okay if characters in a book don’t use PC language because that’s real life and character development. I agree that some of the examples you highlighted could have been omitted.
This book does have tons of hype. I have read that the parents are portrayed as perfect who happen to have daughters who are all lost and struggling. I don’t have the patience for that kind of drama.
This book does have tons of hype. I have read that the parents are portrayed as perfect who happen to have daughters who are all lost and struggling. I don’t have the patience for that kind of drama.
Love your review! I'm suffering thru this mess on audible - still have about 11 hours to go - I'm throwing in the towel!
Lori wrote: "People don’t always use PC language and I’m okay if characters in a book don’t use PC language because that’s real life and character development. I agree that some of the examples you highlighted ..."
For me, I think it's less a question of "PC language" and more about just not using terms that stereotype or offend whenever possible. When there are perfectly good alternatives to those offensive terms, then why not use them instead?
And though I do agree that characters, like real people, use non "PC language" sometimes, I think if an author is going to include that kind of offensive language they have a responsibility to at least have it called out or questioned as problematic, rather than just accepted as matter of fact.
But yeah, this book was definitely not worth the hype for me at all... :( the characters and their melodramatic lives really didn't come together in the end...
For me, I think it's less a question of "PC language" and more about just not using terms that stereotype or offend whenever possible. When there are perfectly good alternatives to those offensive terms, then why not use them instead?
And though I do agree that characters, like real people, use non "PC language" sometimes, I think if an author is going to include that kind of offensive language they have a responsibility to at least have it called out or questioned as problematic, rather than just accepted as matter of fact.
But yeah, this book was definitely not worth the hype for me at all... :( the characters and their melodramatic lives really didn't come together in the end...
Mara wrote: "Love your review! I'm suffering thru this mess on audible - still have about 11 hours to go - I'm throwing in the towel!"
thank you so much!! and haha i totally support your decision!! 11 hours is A LOT if youre not enjoying something c; if i wasn't listening to this on audiobook with the option to listen to it at 2.5x speed, i wouldve 100% given up on it.
thank you so much!! and haha i totally support your decision!! 11 hours is A LOT if youre not enjoying something c; if i wasn't listening to this on audiobook with the option to listen to it at 2.5x speed, i wouldve 100% given up on it.
Totally agreed on the first point. It's what annoyed me the most about this book. We get it. They love each other. Move on.
aahh i know!! i felt like the odd one out too--i was surprised more people hadnt mentioned this book's problems...
Totally agree. Book needed serious pruning. We are told the same things over and over, especially about Marilyn and David, and Marilyn’s decision to drop out of university.
I was relieved to find your review after scrolling through so many 5 stars. It took me a month to get through its 530 pages, and the main reason was the way Ryan was portrayed. As a depressed person, it’s not super fun to read about someone with mental illness as lazy. Thank you for your words, I’m looking forward to following your reads!
thank you so much!! it really was disappointing to see this book grossly misrepresent mental illness like that. the book was trying to have it both ways by completely butcheting ryan's representation but then trying to make us sympathetic to violet's anxiety
In addition to the unacceptable situations listed above, how can a daughter pretend she is in France for a year when she is practically around the corner from her parents, living with her sister, hiding her unplanned pregnancy and living a lie for 15 years??
thank you so much!! ☺☺ and omg i totally agree--this book contributed nothing new or interesting to the genre in any way 🤷♀️
Your review is a thousand times better than the book. I’ve only made it through 23%, and hate every female character and Jonah. The pipefitter comment (and a few others) made me loathe Lombardo. I’m shocked there’s single five-star review.
hahaha wat a compliment thank you!! and omg i hated all the characters too, ESPECILLY the sisters they were infuriating. i have no idea how this book has been so hyped lately
Yes!!! It was too long, and I also hated the female characters. Really, the only one that I like was Jonah.
Fatama, I 100% agree with your review. I couldn't get past chapter 4 because of some things you noted.
yeah unfortunately things dont get better the more you read--in fact, they get worse, so you probably made the right call haha c:
Alicia wrote: "Wow, you read a different book than I did."
yeah...this definitely wasnt the book for me. to each their own i guess 🤷
yeah...this definitely wasnt the book for me. to each their own i guess 🤷
Wowww okay I noticed the R-word and it bothered me, same with the portrayal of depression, but there are soooo many more issues than I even picked up on at the time... so glad I just read this review.
thanks so much!!!☺ i feel like the more this book bothered me the more problems i noticed in it, and vice versa :/
Appreciate the direct review. I’m only on page 65 and toying with giving up so reading reviews to see if it gets better. It doesn’t seem to. Had the same reaction about the depressed husband.
The Marilyn David love lovefest is so thoroughly gag-inducing and utterly unrealistic that it’s almost enough to make me give up on this book. I am about 1/4 of the way through and every time it is shoved in our faces again I want to throw the book across the room. Uggggh. Glad I am not the only one who feels this way.
@Teresa thank you!! yeah i wouldnt recommend reading on if u feel that way already because honestly it only gets worse
@Kim YES like how many times do we need to get told that marilyn and david worship each other it got irritating VERY QUICKLY
@Kim YES like how many times do we need to get told that marilyn and david worship each other it got irritating VERY QUICKLY
Thanks for pointing out the strange inclusion of all the times people walked in on other people having sex. Not many reviews have mentioned it, but it was one of the bigger factors in my low opinion of the book. Once was weird enough, but by the second time it happened I thought it just felt perverted, and by the fourth time I almost quit the book. I can't figure out why the author thought it necessary to have that happen over and over again.
omg YES!! it made me so uncomfortable and added literally nothing to the story. the one with jonah and his aunt was especially horrendous :l
THANK YOU for this review. You said everything I would have and now don't need to do. If I may just add one more extremely annoying, distracting thing I disliked about this book which you may have missed since you were listening to the audio. Why could no one, and I do mean no one, ever finish a complete sentence?? I wanted to count-, I mean, I could have-, but then again, I didn't-, I'm sorry if I-, Did you notice-, I mean, how could you- UGH!!!! Anyway thank you for this review it's spot on!
thank you so much!!! and YES YES YES if anything this was even more noticeable in the audiobook--characters would repeat themselves about 3873730 times before saying anything meaningful. the amount of "jesus"es i had to hear before what felt like every single sentence was unbearable
Ha! I just counted, and in my memory there are at least FIVE times where some couple are caught in (or nearly in) the act! Totally agree - too many.
Wow!! It’s a book...not a personal attack on you. I hope you have recovered from the trauma you apparently suffered from reading this book. I wonder, if it caused you so much anguish, why you would proceed through the entire 500 plus pages?
Christine wrote: "Wow!! It’s a book...not a personal attack on you. I hope you have recovered from the trauma you apparently suffered from reading this book. I wonder, if it caused you so much anguish, why you would..."
Not that I really have to justify to anyone my decision to finish or not finish a book, but I finished this particular book because I had already read a lot of it and I just wanted to get it over with.
Additionally, I don't see what's wrong with expressing my anger at a book that very harmfully misrepresented mental illness, as well as included offensive, problematic language that didn't need to be there. If I'm going to review a book I'm going to be honest about how it made me feel, whether that be positive or not. That's the whole point of Goodreads. If I think a book deserves to be taken to task for its harmful representation, then I'm not going to tone-police myself just to make my review of it more palatable.
Not that I really have to justify to anyone my decision to finish or not finish a book, but I finished this particular book because I had already read a lot of it and I just wanted to get it over with.
Additionally, I don't see what's wrong with expressing my anger at a book that very harmfully misrepresented mental illness, as well as included offensive, problematic language that didn't need to be there. If I'm going to review a book I'm going to be honest about how it made me feel, whether that be positive or not. That's the whole point of Goodreads. If I think a book deserves to be taken to task for its harmful representation, then I'm not going to tone-police myself just to make my review of it more palatable.
Thank you for articulating all the stuff that was really bothering me about this book. I also have trouble caring too much about characters who are so privileged, self-centered and whiny. But the the big thing I couldn't get over was how Liza -- a psych professor -- was so clueless about Ryan's depression. I'm only 10% through and guess I'll save myself the torment. I came on here looking for a review that might explain how this book redeems itself, but alas, not gonna happen.
yeah, sorry to disappoint about the lack of redemption lol...good luck trying to get through the rest of the book though!! 😊
also i definitely felt the same way about the privilege stuff too, this whole book was just not for me 🙄
also i definitely felt the same way about the privilege stuff too, this whole book was just not for me 🙄
I actually really liked this book despite its shortcomings. But some things about it bothered me, which I think you got exactly right. In 2019, the language and depictions were not sensitive. This is different than not-PC or vulgar. The issue, as you well describe, is offensive language in depictions of others, largely by comparison.