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sergiodelrio on Eldra-Zero

1 month ago

My honest opinion is, forget about Deserted Temple... there is just no scenario where it can net you mana, as previously explained.

Its ability LOOKS like it only costs mana, but effectively costs , since it is a land itself and you need to tap it for its ability (when instead you could tap it for mana).

Its real use, imho, would be to untap a land to benefit from a non-mana ability or, it you have like a Lotus Field brew and untap a land that taps for 3 mana, which WOULD be a net positive regarding total mana.

Ok, this was my first impulse here. I will take yet a closer look and possibly comment again soon. But my stance on Temple will remain, the math just doesn't check out and that's an objective observation.

Nunu312 on Orzhov Spirit Tokens

4 months ago

Love a good spirit deck, and nice to see a new commander doing it!

I think you've got some great cards in there that probably don't work as well as you want them to. Luminous Angel is incredibly expensive for a 4/4 flyer that might generate 2-3 tokens. By the time you put it down that's just not a relevant amount. Oyobi, Who Split the Heavens Is in very much the same boat. Because it only happens on casting, it can at most happen 5 times, as that's the amount of spirits you have to cast (and you have no arcane spells). Elesh Norn, Grand Cenobite Is a fantastic card but can occasionally create friction at the table. I don't necessarily suggest that you cut it, but do consider it. It can easily create an environment where some people are unable to play their decks at all until it is delt with.

A bit of the same but Long-Forgotten Gohei definitely fits, but you only have 6 spirit spells and no arcane spells, so you're only using half of it. Etchings of the Chosen is the same price but has an extra ability. You may just want to run both though?

The first thing for additions are the token doublers. These will really help you capitalise on your commander as they will act upon each instance. So instead of casting Triplicate Spirits and getting a rather underwhelming 3, you instead get 6. Then at the end of turn you get another 6... only this is doubled as well, instead of 3, you get 18.Mondrak, Glory Dominus and Anointed Procession are the standouts here, although they are pretty pricy in real world dollars.

Overall though, I feel your ways of generating tokens is very on theme, but not very sustainable. A key thing that you might have missed is that your commander generate spirits for each tokens you make, not spirit tokens. So Collector's Vault, makes a treasure token, free spirit. You have a huge amount of ways to make tokens but a lot of them are humans or other some such (Call the Coppercoats, Martial Coup) so they may not be on brand. Look into ways you can make those one or two treasure / clue / food tokens as you just otherwise play normally.

A conspicuous absence is any of the Teysas. Teysa, Envoy of Ghosts is expensive but fun. Teysa, Opulent Oligarch is much cheaper and synergises VERY well with your commander. Teysa, Orzhov Scion requires a bit more of the black/white spirits, but might still work very well. Teysa Karlov doesn't synergise super well, but has good abilities regardless and certainly isn't a bad pick. The Kaya planeswalkers also often deal with white black spirits as well as having a bit of control so they might be good to look at Kaya the Inexorable being the standout.

another fun card that is changed entirely by your commander Afterlife Insurance and having any method of sacrificing your spirits changes it from just saving those spirits, to doubling their amount. It would go well with Ayli, Eternal Pilgrim, but that starts to lean more into aristocrats than pure spirit tokens.

Another thing is that a lot of white ramp works well with bounce or sac land, you've got the obvious one but you might be able to increase it with Lotus Field and Lotus Vale. Things like Land Tax is a staple for white, but even when you're just running Priest of the Blessed Graf they can help you make him work.

My final point is that you don't seem to have a good way of protecting your quite expensive commander. Your group might not place that big an emphasis on commanders, but it's more fun if she sticks around. There are the old standouts of Lightning Greaves and Swiftfoot Boots, but there are a lot of options.

ToastedBagl on The Necrobloom

6 months ago

I see you too are a man of class!

Things I recommend in this archetype/color combo (since you're dredging!):

Genesis, Unburial Rites, Perennial Behemoth, Reap and Sow, Filth + Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth , Cabal Coffers, Dryad of the Ilysian Grove, Brawn, Field of Ruin and/or Wasteland and/or GhostQuarter, Multani, Yavimaya's Avatar, Riftstone Portal, Wrenn and Seven, Zask, Skittering Swarmlord, Lotus Field

DatShepTho on Gitrog landfall in construction

8 months ago

Some land suggestions: Combos with Kodama + Scute: Arid Archway, Golgari Rot Farm, Guildless Commons

Two mana sac: Ebon Stronghold, Havenwood Battleground

Cycling: Barren Moor, Tranquil Thicket, Polluted Mire, Slippery Karst, Desert of the Glorified, Desert of the Indomitable

Fetch: Evolving Wilds, Terramorphic Expanse, Fabled Passage, Myriad Landscape, Blighted Woodland, Riveteers Overlook

Other: Ghost Quarter, Lotus Field, Nurturing Peatland, Bojuka Bog, Emergence Zone, Field of the Dead

kirbysan on [Primer] Helming the Host of Heaven *Update*

9 months ago

I would definitely run Trouble in Pairs over Mangara, the Diplomat. Unfortunately it doesn’t come in foil and I’ve made it a point to foil out my entire Giada deck.

2 non-angel cards I have my eye on are Lost Jitte and Collector’s Cage.

With Jitte I’d probably stack counters and dump them all at once to untap a strong land like Nykthos, Shrine to Nyx or Lotus Field.

For the cage I like the idea of doing hideaway on something big like Avacyn, Angel of Hope or Serra's Emissary for board wipe protection and a big swinger on your turn. You can then reset it with Guardian of Ghirapur or something that blinks it.

m_tironi on

10 months ago

Woehrlebird, I delete decks often, so you should copy it if you are interested.

Ramp the is good with Lumra: Lotus Field Harrow Roiling Regrowth Springbloom Druid

Support for Lumra: Panharmonicon Amulet of Vigor

To help shuffle your graveyard back into your deck after you milled too much: Kozilek, Butcher of Truth Ulamog, the Infinite Gyre

The rest is optimized good stuff: landfall and cheating cards in with Apex Devastator, Ghalta, Stampede Tyrant and Last March of the Ents.

Also, Monogreen mass haste: Surrak and Goreclaw Concordant Crossroads

wallisface on

1 year ago

I think you should at least replace Lotus Field with a regular land, because as-is it’s going to be a dead card in your hand a lot of the time

Edit: i’ve only just seen the update come through now… disregard this comment.

plakjekaas on Would Seedborn Muse Be Blue …

1 year ago

In pioneer there's a deck making good use of Hidden Strings and Pore Over the Pages to storm off with Lotus Field mana.

The thing they used to do with Turnabout and Frantic Search, or maybe even Time Spiral or Treachery, anything to untap Tolarian Academy for insane amounts of mana.

And Twiddle of course, can't forget that one.

That's in addition to the extra turn argument I tried making in my last post.

Blue untaps a LOT of lands, more with spells than, permanents, although Fatestitcher and Vizier of Tumbling Sands aren't new cards either.