1st Meeting of the MoU4 redaction committee, Krakow, Friday 16 April
1st Meeting of the MoU4 redaction committee, Krakow, Friday 16 April, 12:00 - 13:30
Presents for the redaction committee [1] : Dijana Klaric, Jean-François Geleyn, Claude Fischer, Piet Termonia
- General guidelines for the redaction of the MoU4 :
- simplify the MoU and make it shorter, governance oriented, and not dealing with scientific choices and strategy.
- action: Jean-François will send us a "colored" version of the MoU, underlining what could/should be suppressed/modified/... (mail sent yesterday by Jean-François)
- no deliverables in the MoU but we can put commitments to have a strategic plan as reference (with mention of the possibility of a mid-term updating).
- Links with HIRLAM/convergence :
- Task force (a non permanent, strong committee, transversal HARMONIE) has been proposed during HIRLAM review. It could be a nice first step to introduce the convergence between ALADIN and HIRLAM governances. We would need the ToR for the task force leader (either from ALADIN or HIRLAM)
- The ALADIN/HIRLAM agreement is an annex to the MoU : it is announced in a small paragraph in the MoU. Action : Piet will review this paragraph and propose a new version for next HAC.
- LTM and CSSI
- LTMs don’t have enough power : we need to increase both rights and duties of LTMs in the ToR of LTM (the limit is the national range).
- We need a bridge between research and operation/system.
- We need some coordination of LTMs, outside the ACNA position.
- Money
- HIRLAM and LACE have a GNP based contribution. The Istanbul ALADIN GA decided to keep the flat-rate system with a ceiling written in the MoU, valid for 5 years, but, in special circumstances, the GA might vote to override it.
- The flat-rate contribution is the same for all partners; the in-kind and the voluntary contributions are supposed to introduce an implicit GNP weighting. We should reformulate the in-kind and voluntary contributions paragraph in the next MoU (these contributions are difficult to monitor, specially for the commitments).
- What value for the flat-rate ceiling in the MoU ? what if some country doesn’t pay ?
- Long term question for PAC (Cornel’s action, see Claude separated email): how will we evolve from the current flat-rate+voluntary+in-kind system towards a GNP based contribution ? This won’t be on the MoU4.
- Bureau
- If we keep a Bureau, we should define its ToR.
- LBCs from ARPEGE
- No mention to ARPEGE LBCs since MoU2 (it was only in MoU1). Not worth adding in MoU4.
- Licence and ECMWF agreement
- action Claude & Pat -> find some law experts in MF to deal with licence and ECMWF agreement
- ECMWF won’t sign anything with ALADIN (ALADIN has no legal body to sign with) but with MF
- Code and maintenance issue
- This point is technical but we should keep it in the MoU in a short preamble (common depository, know-how and common maintenance work), insisting on a strong commitment on the intentions but not much details on the way
- action for everybody: think about other points to add to the preamble
Next meeting by teleconference on Monday 26 April.