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[change source]- Waterloo Road - Create individual series pages, fix Ep list mess (footnotes) –Davey2010Talk 02:41, 19 March 2024 (UTC)
- VWGolf- Fix article, fix links (ie MK etc) –Davey2010Talk 02:34, 24 March 2024 (UTC)
- Waterloo Road - Create individual series pages, fix Ep list mess (footnotes) –Davey2010Talk 02:41, 19 March 2024 (UTC)
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[change source]- Add definetions of state-funded etc to List of schools in Medway and List of schools in Kent –Davey2010Talk 14:16, 16 July 2024 (UTC)
Source / expand lead
[change source]- Manchester Victoria station
- 2023 Baltimore Ravens season
- 2023 Buffalo Bills season –Davey2010Talk 16:54, 17 October 2024 (UTC)
- 2023 Baltimore Ravens season
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[change source]when Wayback's back up
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Flesch Kincaid Calculator
[change source]https://goodcalculators.com/flesch-kincaid-calculator/ –Davey2010Talk 19:29, 30 June 2024 (UTC)
12November 2024
[change source]Populate Category:Lists of schools in South East England (en) - create school articles
Populate Category:Lists of schools in England (en) - create school articles
Populate Category:Chamillionaire albums (en) - create school articles
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Accidental transclusion of {{copyvio}} in User:Davey2010/RedWarn/Default Warnings[change source]Hi, just saying it seems like User:Davey2010/RedWarn/Default Warnings is in the possible copyright violations category. This seems to be be because it has JSON containing this: "name": "Removing {{copyvio}} template from articles" I am fairly confident that is not your intent, but I don't know what parser you use with that JSON so I'm not sure how to stop the template from being transcluded there. — 76.212.74.243 (talk) 22:30, 25 June 2024 (UTC)
Preventing the erasure of vandal edits[change source]Hi! I still want to ask, on what grounds did you undo my edits in articles that literally contained false information, which directly violates the rules of the project? Skerpsov (talk) 14:03, 30 June 2024 (UTC)
Short question[change source]Just curious, have you thought of returning to WM Commons? It has been over a year since your indef block there. I apologise if this question upset you. A1Cafel (talk) 09:28, 2 July 2024 (UTC)
Why do you think people need to know that they borrowed a train for a couple of journeys 22 years ago? Rathfelder (talk) 16:11, 9 July 2024 (UTC)
QD[change source]Why does List of SpongeBob SquarePants cast members need QDing? G6 is not valid. Thx fr33kman 21:57, 20 July 2024 (UTC)
edit warring[change source]I’m not edit warring. Ciaran.london (talk) 23:00, 22 July 2024 (UTC)
IceTre Request[change source]Discussion closed. Please continue this on the RFD page. –Davey2010Talk 11:12, 24 July 2024 (UTC)
Hello there, about 12 days ago “IceTre” was nominated for deletion and in the most recent reply to you on the “IceTre” deletion talk page I gave absolute without a doubt proof of the subject’s notability (I was able to prove that the subject has released two or more albums on a major record label / or on one of the more important indie labels (i.e., an independent label with a history of more than a few years, and with a roster of performers, many of whom are independently notable.) There has been no response from anyone in 5 days so I am asking for you to please grant acceptance of the subject’s wiki. Since it’s been 5 days after the 17th when a decision was to be made I fear that it may become forgotten about. I do not wish to burden you with this. If you can close the request out and grant its acceptance to stay then I can continue to work on the subjects wiki and add in more sources to keep the page in healthy and proper condition and you can further continue your work here on Wiki and outside of it as well. Please let me know if that is agreeable. Thank you Stephenbestk28 (talk) 03:37, 23 July 2024 (UTC)
Warning[change source]Please, do not revert any of my changes! I beg of you! 93.40.45.95 (talk) 05:50, 24 July 2024 (UTC)
Edit on Ice Age (2002 movie)[change source]Hi, Davey. I noticed that you did a change to Ice Age (2002 movie), and here's what you did: you copied and pasted the cast list of that movie from the English Wikipedia. In addition, there are some voice actors that were not mentioned in the English Wikipedia:
All of these voice actors are credited in the ending credits of that movie. This is all I can tell you for now. Thank you so much and I hope you have a nice day. 5.180.207.80 (talk) 17:40, 25 July 2024 (UTC)
Recent contributions[change source]Hello there I just wanted to say that the edits that were provided were up to date edits. McClanahan died in 2010 not 2024. Details were provided. For Scorsese he directs more than just movies if you take a look at his filmography. The information on the rappers are currently up to date also. The information was outdated. If you have any concerns leave a message on my talk page. Thank you 108.2.126.127 (talk) 14:38, 30 July 2024 (UTC)
Thanks![change source]Thank you for creating Primos when I couldn't! 2601:402:4402:61F0:C1A2:D11B:B615:1F48 (talk) 22:11, 1 August 2024 (UTC)
Vandalism per contrib[change source]Is this really a good edit summary for reverting edits? Cactus🌵 spiky ouch 10:54, 4 August 2024 (UTC)
this--Cactus🌵 spiky ouch 07:38, 6 August 2024 (UTC)
Major Edit Denied?[change source]Hello. I came here because I was expanding the Simple Wiki's Hailey's On It!, and when I was done, a Captcha came on, and I answered it. Later it said that it was denied. I went out and looked at the abuse filter log and the description was LTA 351. I don't know what that means, and I don't get why they wouldn't let me edit the page. Can you make the edit for me? Thanks-- 2601:402:4402:61F0:E2DA:D876:6031:1D80 (talk) 19:42, 4 August 2024 (UTC)
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Vandal Warner[change source]Hi. I don't know why I'm asking, but by any chance do you know how to get Vandal Warner? I downloaded it, and it's not showing up in my toolbar. Magnolioideae (talk) 18:26, 6 August 2024 (UTC) Vandal IP[change source]This IP vandal keeps on deleting the Quick Deletion template I put on on of their articles because of vandalism. I don't want to get in an edit war. What exactly do I do, and how can I be able to get this article off of Simple Wiki? Maggie🌺 talk edit 00:03, 7 August 2024 (UTC)
Help creating a page[change source]Hello there I want to know how I can help out by creating a page without it getting deleted. 98.115.58.61 (talk) 02:14, 7 August 2024 (UTC)
Archives Bot[change source]Do you know any code to any archive bots? I always self-archive my messages and is pretty exhausting. Maggie🌺 talk edit 17:30, 9 August 2024 (UTC)
Snoop Dogg[change source]I updated information about Snoop Dogg which came from English Wikipedia and now the article is up to date. Reference: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snoop_Dogg 98.115.58.61 (talk) 14:23, 10 August 2024 (UTC)
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Tom Cruise[change source]Hello there someone keeps adding that Tom Cruise is 5'9" when in reality he isn't 5'9" he's 5'7", I either keep removing it or changing it to 5'7" 159.14.184.11 (talk) 14:50, 14 August 2024 (UTC)
Template[change source]Hey there! Can I use your template for counting redirect pages? 🪐 Haumeon the Adventurer 🪐 16:57, 18 August 2024 (UTC)
Akiva[change source]Hello, could you wikify my article Akiva, into more simplified English?--Alon9393 (talk) 13:45, 19 August 2024 (UTC)
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August 2024[change source]Welcome to Wikipedia. Everyone is welcome to make helpful changes to Wikipedia. However, some of your changes, like those to "Talk:Main Page", did not seem to be helpful and have been reverted or removed. If you want to try out changing Wikipedia to learn more about how it works, please use the sandbox. Thank you. Auntof6 (talk) 20:08, 26 August 2024 (UTC)
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Check your Agar.io[change source]i am added This notice "Wait" to speedy undelete it Ігнат Лостюк (talk) 16:20, 31 August 2024 (UTC)
Type locality[change source]It may be relevant that my draft User:Darkfrog24/Type locality (biology) is now the article Type (biology). Feel free to wreak your arts on it. Darkfrog24 (talk) 00:27, 2 September 2024 (UTC)
Flood flag[change source]Hi there, thanks for removing the short description templates. How many pages do you have left to go through? It's flooding the recent changes and I thought I'd give you the flood flag if you still have more left. — *Fehufangą ♮ ✉ Talk page 13:05, 2 September 2024 (UTC)
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Asking[change source]Hello. I was wondering if my anger later in the Simple Talk thread "Anachronism" would ruin or spoil my track record and make administrators deny me userrights. Warm Regards, - 🪐●Haumeon 19:08, 11 September 2024 (UTC)
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RedWarn[change source]You use redwarn too? Is there an error message saying "Cannot load rule database" for you? (This is Haumeon, I changed my name) ☀ SolarX☀ 19:35, 18 September 2024 (UTC)
Heights[change source]People keep adding heights to people who aren't athletes or models 98.115.58.61 (talk) 17:16, 22 September 2024 (UTC)
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range for VIP report[change source]Hi Davey, I looked at the IP range that would cover the IPs who've kept making the disruptive edits on Bus, Truck etc. The smallest range to contain all the IP addresses appears to be a /38 range which is too wide for a IPv6 block. If the issue gets worse, please feel free to request semi-protection for the pages in question. Thanks, --Ferien (talk) 16:25, 24 September 2024 (UTC)
observation[change source]Not that it's necessarily my business, but I noticed in dealing with the QD request on your userpage: the top template on RfDs is just {{archive top}} substituted, with the corresponding {{archive bottom}}, if that's helpful at all :) --Ferien (talk) 22:00, 24 September 2024 (UTC)
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Sorry[change source]I'm sorry for calling you "worthless"
Electra-Afikim[change source]Hello, I changed the categories on Electra-Afikim because that one didn't exist. If we have 3 articles about bus companies we can make a category for them. Thanks. 2603:3005:902:5E00:E8DC:F279:19C1:1783 (talk) 18:41, 18 October 2024 (UTC)
Re: Enviro400MMC discussion[change source]Hi, I just thought I'd add one more note, that primary references are ok but need to be used with caution. w:en:WP:RSPRIMARY explains this well - in this instance we are just referring to a simple fact, that the product launched in 2014. Secondary references are preferable but for this it is fairly uncontroversial so not an issue here as that was the one easiest to find. Perhaps it could be replaced with a secondary reference when one can be located. Thanks, --Ferien (talk) 18:27, 21 October 2024 (UTC)
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Article deletion Inquiry[change source]Hello Why did you request for the Deletion of the Page “Kefas Brand” the page is available on Wikipedia and it was sourced. you may view the page below https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rodney_Kefas_Namisi
what could have been the issue could you share it please 41.210.155.75 (talk) 16:10, 30 October 2024 (UTC)
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Happy anniversary!
[change source]You've been on Simple Wikipedia for 10 years, 10 months, and 10 days! Happy anniversary, and happy Halloween as well!! Contributor118,784 Let's talk 10:58, 31 October 2024 (UTC)
- Hi @Contributor 118,784, Thanks so much, my editing here has been fits and starts so I technically probably haven't been here for 10 years per se but I'll take it thank you :),
- It's also mad knowing I've made 19,302 edits this year alone - 19 thousand edits in 10 months! - I really need to get out more! :P, Anyway thanks again, Happy editing, –Davey2010Talk 13:12, 31 October 2024 (UTC)
- Happy 10x10x10 anniversary, Davey! Thank you so much for your valued contributions to this Wikipedia and also for the good company! ✩ Dream Indigo ✩ 21:22, 31 October 2024 (UTC)
- Hi @Dream Indigo, Aww thank you so much and same to you Thank you for your valued contributions and thank you for your help here :), Always a pleasure seeing you :), Happy editing, Take care –Davey2010Talk 21:50, 31 October 2024 (UTC)
- Take care, my friend :D <3 ✩ Dream Indigo ✩ 21:55, 31 October 2024 (UTC)
- Aww thank you you take care too friend :) –Davey2010Talk 21:58, 31 October 2024 (UTC)
- I agree with you guys too! And also Happy Halloween and 10x10x10! thetree284 (talk) 23:09, 31 October 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks thetree284, Happy Halloween to you (and everyone else too), Thanks, –Davey2010Talk 23:14, 31 October 2024 (UTC)
- I agree with you guys too! And also Happy Halloween and 10x10x10! thetree284 (talk) 23:09, 31 October 2024 (UTC)
- Aww thank you you take care too friend :) –Davey2010Talk 21:58, 31 October 2024 (UTC)
- Take care, my friend :D <3 ✩ Dream Indigo ✩ 21:55, 31 October 2024 (UTC)
- Hi @Dream Indigo, Aww thank you so much and same to you Thank you for your valued contributions and thank you for your help here :), Always a pleasure seeing you :), Happy editing, Take care –Davey2010Talk 21:50, 31 October 2024 (UTC)
- Happy 10x10x10 anniversary, Davey! Thank you so much for your valued contributions to this Wikipedia and also for the good company! ✩ Dream Indigo ✩ 21:22, 31 October 2024 (UTC)
Barnstar 3
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Happy Halloween! thetree284 (talk) 23:21, 31 October 2024 (UTC) |
- Thanks Tree, Happy Halloween :) –Davey2010Talk 23:36, 31 October 2024 (UTC)
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[change source]thetree284 has given you four cups of bubble tea! Spread WikiLove by giving someone else four cups of bubble tea, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past or a good friend.
Give someone four cups of bubble tea by adding {{subst:Bubble tea2}} to someone's talk page along a nice message!
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- Thanks @Thetree284 that's kind of you, Happy editing, Take care, Thanks, –Davey2010Talk 16:07, 4 November 2024 (UTC)
Username Violation
[change source]Hi @Davey2010, I found users with username violation because i found above with offensives words Raayaan9911 Talk to me! 16:00, 4 November 2024 (UTC)
- Hi @Raayaan9911, Account's been blocked here by an admin and I'm assuming Meta have already locked it, I've been told off before for reporting a locked account which don't show as locked my end so I'm simply assuming it's been spotted and locked already. If it hasn't been locked they have over 100+ projects to continue their vandalism at but that's not my problem, Not going to be disrespectfully shouted at again over something I cannot see with my own eyes so yeah you've done as much as you can as far as I'm concerned, Thanks. –Davey2010Talk 16:07, 4 November 2024 (UTC)
- @Davey2010 If you can't see them on Special:centralauth, it's locked and hidden (oversighted). Also, this one is old, @Raayaan9911 I recommend not digging them out unless quite serious.-- BRP ever 16:11, 4 November 2024 (UTC)
- @BRPever and @Davey2010, thank you for blocking a users Raayaan9911 Talk to me! 16:15, 4 November 2024 (UTC)
- Hi @BRPever, Okay thank you I'll try that in future first, I hadn't spotted this was an old name either so my bad, Thanks for the helpful link, Happy ediitng, Thanks, –Davey2010Talk 16:19, 4 November 2024 (UTC)
- @Davey2010 If you can't see them on Special:centralauth, it's locked and hidden (oversighted). Also, this one is old, @Raayaan9911 I recommend not digging them out unless quite serious.-- BRP ever 16:11, 4 November 2024 (UTC)
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[change source]Hi, Davey! I was looking at your userpage and noticed the User:Davey2010/Userbox/Olympics userbox. You see, the black background ends before the French flag does (at least on my PC screen res) and I can't see the closing ceremony because the Super Bowl userbox covers it as soon as the black border ends. If you remove height:845px;
from the Olympics userbox, the black border should automatically hug (forgot the correct word lmfao) the userbox very nicely, thus solving the problem. I really hope this doesn't come off as annoying, but I am the most annoying perfectionist, so yeah :D ✩ Dream Indigo ✩ 01:36, 5 November 2024 (UTC)
- If you don't hate me already, you could also remove
height:147px;
from User:Davey2010/Userbox/LaurenMayberry andheight:360px;
from User:Davey2010/Userbox/Eurovision. Sadly, I have no way to test how your userpage will look after these three changes, but, if they work as I imagine, it will fix the overlap that's currently covering the bottom half of your userboxes. Take care, signed: an annoying ✩ Dream Indigo ✩ 01:55, 5 November 2024 (UTC)- Hi @Dream Indigo, Yeah I've noticed they appear differently on different devices some they show fine and others half of it's cut off, I just assumed the div thing only worked on some devices, Lol hug that made me smile :), I didn't realise the heights automatically hugged the userbox,
- Nooooo I could never hate you nor find you annoying! It's always nice seeing you pop up here :) Thanks so much for your helpful suggestions it's very much appreciated :), Take care, Have a lovely day, Thanks again, –Davey2010Talk 12:17, 5 November 2024 (UTC)
- Also forgot to say so sorry for reverting you, I somehow accidentally hit rollback instead of thanks 🤦♂️ so apologies for that, Thanks –Davey2010Talk 12:21, 5 November 2024 (UTC)
- Aww I am very happy I made you smile :) It's always nice seeing you too :D And no worries about the accidental revert, you too have a lovely day, thank you! ✩ Dream Indigo ✩ 13:48, 5 November 2024 (UTC)
- Awww thank you thank you thank you :), Take care, –Davey2010Talk 13:57, 5 November 2024 (UTC)
- Aww I am very happy I made you smile :) It's always nice seeing you too :D And no worries about the accidental revert, you too have a lovely day, thank you! ✩ Dream Indigo ✩ 13:48, 5 November 2024 (UTC)
- Also forgot to say so sorry for reverting you, I somehow accidentally hit rollback instead of thanks 🤦♂️ so apologies for that, Thanks –Davey2010Talk 12:21, 5 November 2024 (UTC)
Inquiry
[change source]Hey Dave it’s me again I’m finding Truble adding an image to this Infobox maybe you could help show me how to here is the link “Identity School Of Acting” Idrisskunle (talk) 13:53, 6 November 2024 (UTC)
- Hi @Idrisskunle, Unfortunately the image doesn't show because it's being hosted on the English Wikipedia only - Images that are uploaded on the English Wikipedia only can't be reused on other projects, Only images uploaded on Commons can be reused on other Wikipedias, I hope this makes sense, Thanks, –Davey2010Talk 14:31, 6 November 2024 (UTC)
- Oh yes understood that
- Thanks once again for you guidance im greatful Idrisskunle (talk) 14:43, 6 November 2024 (UTC)
- You're very welcome Kunle, Happy editing, Thanks, –Davey2010Talk 15:00, 6 November 2024 (UTC)
Misery
[change source]- The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
I'm serious someone took off 1990s Psychological horror categories from the Misery film article on Wikipedia just want it to be restored 152.86.164.35 (talk) 17:29, 9 November 2024 (UTC)
- Then sort it out on the English Wikipedia where the problem is?...., That editor doesn't even edit here any more so your message wouldn't be seen by them, Thanks, –Davey2010Talk 17:34, 9 November 2024 (UTC)
- English Wikipedia is difficult to understand 152.86.164.35 (talk) 17:35, 9 November 2024 (UTC)
- Many tried. 152.86.164.35 (talk) 17:35, 9 November 2024 (UTC)
- Can't you do it you have experiences 152.86.164.35 (talk) 20:06, 9 November 2024 (UTC)
- You already did it thank you 152.86.164.35 (talk) 20:15, 9 November 2024 (UTC)
- Hi @152.86.164.35, Please accept my apologies for the tone of my reply above - I didn't read your message there and just assumed you were complaining over an enwiki problem, I had checked the edit and wasn't happy so reverted as you noted above :), Happy editing, Thanks, –Davey2010Talk 21:49, 9 November 2024 (UTC)
- You already did it thank you 152.86.164.35 (talk) 20:15, 9 November 2024 (UTC)
- Can't you do it you have experiences 152.86.164.35 (talk) 20:06, 9 November 2024 (UTC)
- Many tried. 152.86.164.35 (talk) 17:35, 9 November 2024 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive. Please do not change it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page, such as the current discussion page. No more changes should be made to this discussion.
Uh
[change source]There Is No Source That I Know Of I Used AI To Instantly Look Up Information Yummy Vegetables (talk) 11:57, 10 November 2024 (UTC)
- @Yummy Vegetables, Your edits need to be backed up by wp:reliable sources,
Please don't use AI to add content here as that would be wp:copyright and you can get blocked indefinitely for that,Thanks, –Davey2010Talk 12:14, 10 November 2024 (UTC)- (talk page stalker) @Davey2010: How would using AI be copyright? Doesn't AI generate original material based on input you give it? -- Auntof6 (talk) 12:51, 10 November 2024 (UTC)
- @Auntof6, I don't know why but for some reason I thought ai results were taken off of various websites, I've searched the users quotes and none show up as copyright so no idea why I thought that, @Yummy Vegetables please ignore the copyright bit as that doesn't apply here, Sorry for giving out the wrong information, Thanks, –Davey2010Talk 13:03, 10 November 2024 (UTC)
- AI might amalgamate stuff from websites (I guess it has to get its knowledge somewhere), but it doesn't do anything like copy/paste as far as I know.
- Have you seen the strange images and videos AI has generated? -- Auntof6 (talk) 14:57, 10 November 2024 (UTC)
- Ahhhh I see, I've never used AI stuff so am utterly clueless with it,
- I have - Just lately I've been seeing dog videos turned into AI ([59]) - horrifying is an understatement lol –Davey2010Talk 15:26, 10 November 2024 (UTC)
- @Auntof6, I don't know why but for some reason I thought ai results were taken off of various websites, I've searched the users quotes and none show up as copyright so no idea why I thought that, @Yummy Vegetables please ignore the copyright bit as that doesn't apply here, Sorry for giving out the wrong information, Thanks, –Davey2010Talk 13:03, 10 November 2024 (UTC)
- (talk page stalker) @Davey2010: How would using AI be copyright? Doesn't AI generate original material based on input you give it? -- Auntof6 (talk) 12:51, 10 November 2024 (UTC)
You Implied I could Restore The Information
[change source]Is It Really Preferable To Have Pitifully Short Articles? What A Shame. Yummy Vegetables (talk) 19:38, 10 November 2024 (UTC)
- @Yummy Vegetables - AI or no AI you still need to provide reliable sources. We want real editors who write real things.... Not people who mass-dump ai generated shite everywhere and call those dumps "improvements". Thanks –Davey2010Talk 19:44, 10 November 2024 (UTC)
- Between AI generated garbage and short articles I'll take short articles all day long. –Davey2010Talk 19:45, 10 November 2024 (UTC)
The AI Never Lies. Embrace The AI. Become One With The AI. Yummy Vegetables (talk) 19:47, 10 November 2024 (UTC)
- I'm good thanks Yummy vegetables:) –Davey2010Talk 19:50, 10 November 2024 (UTC)
I Did Add Citations Man
[change source]Took Information From The Big English Wikipedia Yummy Vegetables (talk) 20:05, 10 November 2024 (UTC)
- My bad thought it was more AI nonsense, Anything you copy from the English Wikipedia needs to be simplified, Thanks –Davey2010Talk 20:38, 10 November 2024 (UTC)
You Are Acting Like You Want Your Wiki To Remain Shriveled And Empty For Eternity. This Is What Will Happen If You Do Not Allow Simple Information Retrieval. Nobody Has The Time For "Intensive Research" Anymore. Yummy Vegetables (talk) 20:41, 10 November 2024 (UTC)
- "You Are Acting Like You Want Your Wiki To Remain Shriveled And Empty For Eternity" - Wrong, I just want someone who can expand articles without relying on AI, I want someone who can contribute to Simple without making a hash of it and causing disruption in the process.
- "This Is What Will Happen If You Do Not Allow Simple Information Retrieval. Nobody Has The Time For "Intensive Research" Anymore. Bs, Hell will freeze over before AI will ever be accepted here.
- If you don't have the time to do research then I would very respectfully suggest you find another hobby. The whole point of editing here is Researching, Expanding and Sourcing. If researching and sourcing are too much for you then yeah this place isn't for you. Thanks –Davey2010Talk 20:48, 10 November 2024 (UTC)
Prove Me Wrong, Then. Become The Paragon That Saves This Wiki From Certain Destruction. Yummy Vegetables (talk) 21:05, 10 November 2024 (UTC)
- It's not me that needs to save anything, Save yourself and become an independent editor instead of relying on AI to do everything for you :) Save yourself. –Davey2010Talk 21:31, 10 November 2024 (UTC)
Tech News: 2024-46
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- On wikis with the Translate extension enabled, users will notice that the FuzzyBot will now automatically create translated versions of categories used on translated pages. [60]
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Train
[change source]Hi Davey2010,
Can you please look at LB&SCR Class E2 105 Thomas? I think it's a hoax, it's Thomas the Tank Engine... 131.109.225.17 (talk) 19:17, 14 November 2024 (UTC)
- Hi @131.109.225.17, Thanks for the heads up, You were correct in your thinking :), I've tagged it as a hoax, Thanks, –Davey2010Talk 19:22, 14 November 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks! 131.109.225.17 (talk) 19:23, 14 November 2024 (UTC)
- You're welcome, Happy editing 131, Thanks, –Davey2010Talk 19:35, 14 November 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks! 131.109.225.17 (talk) 19:23, 14 November 2024 (UTC)
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Required Help
[change source]@Davey2010 hope you are doing great? The page has been previously deleted Oceanic International Yoga School Goa Which I have checked and has been deleted before but again and again it is published with new user.
Can you please look into this if I am not wrong Ksy 15:30, 20 November 2024 (UTC)
- Hi @Kuskrey, I'm great thanks hope you're doing great, I've RFD'd the article :), Thanks, –Davey2010Talk 15:45, 20 November 2024 (UTC)
- I am also fine Thanks for asking And thank you for your help Ksy 15:49, 20 November 2024 (UTC)
- @Kuskrey, That's great to hear, You're very welcome, Happy editing –Davey2010Talk 16:08, 20 November 2024 (UTC)
- I am also fine Thanks for asking And thank you for your help Ksy 15:49, 20 November 2024 (UTC)
November 2024
[change source]Hello, I am BZPN. I noticed that you made a change to an article, Alycia Debnam-Carey, but you did not provide a reliable source. It has been removed and archived in the page history for now, but if you want to include a citation and re-add it, please do so! If you need help with referencing, please see Wikipedia:Citing sources, or if you think I made a mistake, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thank you. BZPN (talk) 13:21, 21 November 2024 (UTC)
- (talk page stalker) BZPN, doesn't this go against en:WP:DTTR? ⯎ Asteralee ⯎ 13:22, 21 November 2024 (UTC)
- @Asteralee, why? Davey2010 did the same thing on my talk page, and it's not against any rule. BZPN (talk) 13:25, 21 November 2024 (UTC)
- @BZPN Templating the regulars aside, a citation is only absolutely necessary when there is
material whose verifiability has been challenged,
ormaterial whose verifiability is likely to be challenged
(en:Wikipedia:Verifiability). I doubt that filmographies are that contentious. It would be nice to have sources for the movies, but you really didn't need to throw the baby out with the bath water with this one by reverting the entire edit. - And to Davey, please tone down your edit summary. — *Fehufangą ♮ ✉ Talk page 13:30, 21 November 2024 (UTC)
@Davey2010Sorry, I meant Fehufanga BZPN (talk) 14:02, 21 November 2024 (UTC), why are you quoting English Wikipedia? Our Wikipedia:Verifiability doesn't mention about such a thing, and it also says Verifiability is the key to becoming a reliable resource, so editors should cite credible sources so that their edits can be easily verified. The filmography may be questionable - following what you said, to check it, you need to, for example, look at the film's subtitles, and the films may not be available to everyone. The source of such information should be provided, as it is not obvious in any way. Have a nice day :). BZPN (talk) 13:50, 21 November 2024 (UTC)- @BZPN You're replying to the wrong person. WP:FOLLOW is a guideline in this wiki. If enwiki is doing it, then it's probably for a good reason since they've been doing it for two decades over now. If you think that filmographies have to be fully sourced, then your time is better spent by finding sources for these sections rather than deleting them outright. Liv_Morgan, Kevin_Spacey, Coen_brothers, etc. And what about the English Wikipedia? en:Coen_brothers#Filmography.
It is unfair to make later editors dig for sources to check your work, particularly when the initial content is questionable.
Are filmographies that contentious? No. Are claims of scientific discoveries contentious? Very likely. Are allegations about living people contentious? Definitely. — *Fehufangą ♮ ✉ Talk page 13:58, 21 November 2024 (UTC)- @Fehufanga, WP:FOLLOW does not say that enwiki rules override local rules. We have WP:Verifiability here and we should stick to it. Moreover, there is no mention anywhere that information about the filmography is not controversial (this is your opinion, I think differently), just as there is no mention that the filmography is obvious information for everyone (which of course it is not, it is not 2+2=4). Also, if I understand correctly, the quote It is unfair to make later editors dig for sources to check your work, particularly when the initial content is questionable refers to the user whose talk page we are on, not to me - I withdrew information whose reliability and verifiability readers might have doubts about. BZPN (talk) 14:33, 21 November 2024 (UTC)
- @BZPN Practices are policy. Our practice when we find unsourced content is to see whether the content is actually correct or not. Reverting at a sight of content without any actual effort is counterproductive. The steps at Wikipedia:Verifiability tells you how exactly to proceed with verifying the content. I don't think you need to follow exactly what it mentions, but at least some attempt to communicate or verify the content is necessary. This is clearly a case where you assumed bad faith from the start. I think Davey went a bit too far with the edit summary but I see a lot of error in the way you handled this situation.-- BRP ever 14:54, 21 November 2024 (UTC)
- @Fehufanga, WP:FOLLOW does not say that enwiki rules override local rules. We have WP:Verifiability here and we should stick to it. Moreover, there is no mention anywhere that information about the filmography is not controversial (this is your opinion, I think differently), just as there is no mention that the filmography is obvious information for everyone (which of course it is not, it is not 2+2=4). Also, if I understand correctly, the quote It is unfair to make later editors dig for sources to check your work, particularly when the initial content is questionable refers to the user whose talk page we are on, not to me - I withdrew information whose reliability and verifiability readers might have doubts about. BZPN (talk) 14:33, 21 November 2024 (UTC)
- @BZPN You're replying to the wrong person. WP:FOLLOW is a guideline in this wiki. If enwiki is doing it, then it's probably for a good reason since they've been doing it for two decades over now. If you think that filmographies have to be fully sourced, then your time is better spent by finding sources for these sections rather than deleting them outright. Liv_Morgan, Kevin_Spacey, Coen_brothers, etc. And what about the English Wikipedia? en:Coen_brothers#Filmography.
- First off BZPN I apologise for calling you a moron, that was not okay. I like to expand articles and I've never once been reverted for copypasting so to see me being reverted felt like I can't be trusted or that the information I've added must be fake. In an ideal world yes they should be sourced but as Fehufanga correctly points out Could you really not have done this yourself if you had such a huge problem with it ?, If I spot someone adding unsourced content that I believe could be fake I'll do the research and source where necessary.
- I appreciate the onus is on me to source the content but I'm simply copying what's deemed to be acceptable content on the English Wikipedia over so surely you should be telling them to source it ...
- Sourcing individual entries takes a lot of time and effort and it's not a 5 minute job (If you check my EN userpage you'll see my expansion edits have all been to source filmography tables but I certainly don't see why those at EN should be down to me to do which is why I sort of stopped and just do it occasionally).
- The time and effort you've spent reverting me and templating me could've been far better spent on sourcing that very filmogrpahy table that you have a problem with.... Nonetheless none of that excuses my comment to you so I apologise for that, I'll do better going forward. Thanks, –Davey2010Talk 15:08, 21 November 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you. I understand that you want to expand the articles - that is also my goal. However, I believe that any non-obvious information should have a source. As you said, I could have added sources myself, but I didn't have time for it at the time - I decided it would be better to remove unsourced information so as not to cause doubts for readers, rather than leaving it for an indefinite period of time. I have nothing more to say. I have no problem with anyone - my goal is only to ensure the reilability of the information :). Best regards, BZPN (talk) 15:26, 21 November 2024 (UTC)
- P.S. I have already added sources to this content, I hope it helps. Have a nice day! BZPN (talk) 15:33, 21 November 2024 (UTC)
- Exactly that's both our goals here - to expand and to give our readers knowledge, Thanks for sourcing but unfortunately IMDB can't be used as per en:WP:Citing Imdb - IMDB is user generated) (Sorry I didn't take any joy from removing them either but I cite Citing IMDB on EN so I can't just turn a blind eye here), Have a great day, Thanks, –Davey2010Talk 15:44, 21 November 2024 (UTC)
- Filmweb is a relatively reliable source - although it is not scientific, it is not created by users/community. Filmweb acts as a news source written by the editorial staff (like other online newspapers). Users cannot edit Filmweb, except for the ability to write opinions (but separate from the content). BZPN (talk) 15:55, 21 November 2024 (UTC)
- Oh okay thank you I didn't realise it was written by editorial staff, I thought it was user generated, Thanks –Davey2010Talk 16:29, 21 November 2024 (UTC)
- Filmweb is a relatively reliable source - although it is not scientific, it is not created by users/community. Filmweb acts as a news source written by the editorial staff (like other online newspapers). Users cannot edit Filmweb, except for the ability to write opinions (but separate from the content). BZPN (talk) 15:55, 21 November 2024 (UTC)
- Exactly that's both our goals here - to expand and to give our readers knowledge, Thanks for sourcing but unfortunately IMDB can't be used as per en:WP:Citing Imdb - IMDB is user generated) (Sorry I didn't take any joy from removing them either but I cite Citing IMDB on EN so I can't just turn a blind eye here), Have a great day, Thanks, –Davey2010Talk 15:44, 21 November 2024 (UTC)
- P.S. I have already added sources to this content, I hope it helps. Have a nice day! BZPN (talk) 15:33, 21 November 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you. I understand that you want to expand the articles - that is also my goal. However, I believe that any non-obvious information should have a source. As you said, I could have added sources myself, but I didn't have time for it at the time - I decided it would be better to remove unsourced information so as not to cause doubts for readers, rather than leaving it for an indefinite period of time. I have nothing more to say. I have no problem with anyone - my goal is only to ensure the reilability of the information :). Best regards, BZPN (talk) 15:26, 21 November 2024 (UTC)
Please Check
[change source]I have tagged one article Aleksei Pethkurov in QD but same publisher has removed the tagged with out giving any reason.
Can you please look into it if I am not wrong Ksy 08:41, 24 November 2024 (UTC)
- Hi @Kuskrey, The has since been deleted as A4 :), Have a great day, Thanks, –Davey2010Talk 12:40, 24 November 2024 (UTC)
Reverted IP vandalism
[change source]Hello @Davey2010, Thank you for reverting me IP's Vandalism Message in my user talk page Raayaan9911 Talk to me! 11:54, 25 November 2024 (UTC)
- Hi @Raayaan9911, You're very welcome, Happy editing Raayaan :), Thanks, –Davey2010Talk 12:44, 25 November 2024 (UTC)
- You're welcome Raayaan9911 Talk to me! 12:46, 25 November 2024 (UTC)
Alexander Dennis Enviro400mmc
[change source]Fix sentences in sections –Davey2010Talk 21:18, 25 November 2024 (UTC)
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Hello. The word other is not the best in this situation, because it suggests connections between these models and Citroen (if you know better ones, you can replace them). "Other models" must be separated from the 3rd generation with a separate heading so as not to suggest connections with Citroen. BZPN (talk) 17:26, 26 November 2024 (UTC)
- Hi, I can't think of any better word hence settling with other, I'll mess around with it later thanks –Davey2010Talk 18:21, 26 November 2024 (UTC)
- Hi @BZPN, Many thanks for patiently waiting, Would you say this is better?, I know it's repetitive but I've kept the "x by X" in so it doesn't sound like Citroen make the van under those names, You're more than welcome to change the article and improve it, Thanks, –Davey2010Talk 20:09, 26 November 2024 (UTC)
- Yes, this is much better. Thank you for taking care of this :). Best regards, BZPN (talk) 20:31, 26 November 2024 (UTC)
- Hi @BZPN, You're welcome and thanks again for patiently waiting it really is greatly appreciated :), Enjoy the rest of your day/evening, Thanks, Warm Regards, –Davey2010Talk 20:36, 26 November 2024 (UTC)
- Yes, this is much better. Thank you for taking care of this :). Best regards, BZPN (talk) 20:31, 26 November 2024 (UTC)
- Hi @BZPN, Many thanks for patiently waiting, Would you say this is better?, I know it's repetitive but I've kept the "x by X" in so it doesn't sound like Citroen make the van under those names, You're more than welcome to change the article and improve it, Thanks, –Davey2010Talk 20:09, 26 November 2024 (UTC)