| I'm just used to them, I treat their pervy nature as air and take the character seriously only in moment's that call for it. I don't mind them, but I understand why people dislike them, as they can change the tone of the scene with an unfunny gag instantly, it makes me roll my eyes at best and sigh at worst. Of course they are character's with those character trait's that are well written outside of their pervy nature - still I would like to see the "gag" [of groping, oogling etc.] taken seriously in some drama as not a gag, but some serious isssue. [unless it's been done already] it would certaintly be interesting. I will also mention that sexual harassment is of course not-funny, but if anime is not making a big deal out of this or using it in a truly horryfing way, I can't take it seriously at all. Does it normalise those action for some people? maybe and I hate it, but I'm pretty sure this trope will continue. Also pretty privilege is a thing, Mineta is un-attractive [I don't find him disgusting tbh, I mean he's just there and he had his cool moment's] while Sanji [haven't watched OP yet, but he's certaintly hot] is enjoyed by woman all around, so it also depend's on the portraliar [did I spell it right lmao?] |
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| I largely don't like them, and have never liked them. They could be comedic however, if the comedy is just sexual assault is funny, or look at these slap stick gags, then yeah that rarely gets a laugh out of me. |
| It depends on the type of perverted character... I think. |
| Well I guess that for some people the "lovable" pervert in anime actually does help cement and normalize the objectification of female characters and by extension, of real life women, by having a really alarming real-world issue (that men prey on women and objectify their bodies) being cast on a funny light. And sure, you can dismiss it as a cultural thing and call someone a "tourist" or whatever for having an opinion against these kind of characters, but the fact remains that their existence has had real-life consequences in the anime community itself, like in the harassment of female cosplayers at conventions to give an example. People in the community wouldn't miss so many cues and standards on consent if they haven't been taught beforehand by the anime medium itself that someone that acts like a total creep towards women can have a "lovable" side. |
| I love perverted characters like Roshi and Minetta. Sanji is very popular with men and women. |
| Depends on the context behind the character. Genrally though, i find them to be funny to me as long its not exaggerated IMHO |
| I like perverted characters because they're free to be perverted in their anime worlds while me in my world have to depress and repress my pervertedness. |
| the ones who got into anime during the pandemic despise them |
fallout45 said: Say like a perv like Master Roshi for example. Feels like most are open to crucifying perverted characters today than in years past Depends how perverted and how it's executed Master Roshi stands right on the line pushing things to the limit while still being funny, anything beyond his level becomes unfunny to me |
| Well, it all depends on who they're perverted towards. Perverts groping the heroine in a romance anime, for example, is an implementation of this trope that is basically NTR, so I could never wish anything but the worst on that variety of the archetype. Perverts who are less grabby, more voyeuristic or only direct in their pervertedness towards irrelevant minor characters are less likely to be despised, since they present considerably less threat to the treasured purity of the heroine. |
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| I don't think any perverted characters even exist. |
| Well, many newgen fans, contrary to the oldgens, despise such characters or even straight freak out when there's such a character in an anime they're watching. Is it a vocal minority, or a new trend in the anime fandom? I don't know. Hard to tell. And I don't care, to be frank. |
| Flirty characters are. I think the difference between flirty and perverted is the level of consent they get or care for. |
| I feel like it's only acceptable to people if the character is attractive LOL |
| I generally don't care for them, but it's part of what makes an anime an anime |
| They can be funny but there also are annoying ones |
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| Well, it's to an extent. For example, Sanji from One Piece. I am okay with him being a pervert, because he's really just a chivalrous perv/gentleman, who has his limits. Like, sure, he is a simp, but would never go overboard when simping for women. There are other examples of this case too like Brock from Pokemon. As much as I like Master Roshi from Dragon Ball, his perviness did not age well. Literally goes way too far nearly every time, even going as far as to gawk over teenage Bulma. Meliodas from Seven Deadly Sins is also a creep in my eyes because he just gropes Elizabeth 24/7, even before the reveal about the goddeess and demons n shit. Also, the pervs I like such as Sanji and Brock usually are a lot more than just perverts. Sanji is the cook of the Straw Hats, a member of the Germa Royal Family, and so much more. Brock is a Pokemon breeder, the former Pewter City gym leader, and a long time travel companion of Ash. The pervert I am trying to refer to here who isn't a great example is Mineta from My Hero Academia. If said pervert is really just a naive child such as Goku I am fine with that too. Especially since Goku never encountered a woman before he met Bulma. |
| If I had to choose between One Piece and a girlfriend...I think I'll go with One Piece |
| Imo characters like Master Roshi, or Sanji are fine, but characters like Mineta are just straight up unbearable. |
| Yea, lewd female characters are sublime. |
| they are still seen as comedic, unless it's a popular series, then no |
| Pervy characters like Master Roshi, Ataru Moroboshi, Happosai, Ryo Saeba, a Lupin, yokoshima tadao were the kings of comedic relief back in the day. They'd peek up a skirt, pull a heist of panty theft , and we'd all laugh (or facepalm) at their antics. Today's fans have a tendency to be a critical Karen . These characters are sometimes seen less as charming rogues and more as walking HR violations. Their "comedy" doesn't land with the modern audience that's more pretentious of social issues and pointing fingers like Karens for social media likes and attention. |
Reply to Fukoku
Well, it's to an extent.
For example, Sanji from One Piece. I am okay with him being a pervert, because he's really just a chivalrous perv/gentleman, who has his limits. Like, sure, he is a simp, but would never go overboard when simping for women. There are other examples of this case too like Brock from Pokemon.
As much as I like Master Roshi from Dragon Ball, his perviness did not age well. Literally goes way too far nearly every time, even going as far as to gawk over teenage Bulma. Meliodas from Seven Deadly Sins is also a creep in my eyes because he just gropes Elizabeth 24/7, even before the reveal about the goddeess and demons n shit.
Also, the pervs I like such as Sanji and Brock usually are a lot more than just perverts. Sanji is the cook of the Straw Hats, a member of the Germa Royal Family, and so much more. Brock is a Pokemon breeder, the former Pewter City gym leader, and a long time travel companion of Ash. The pervert I am trying to refer to here who isn't a great example is Mineta from My Hero Academia.
If said pervert is really just a naive child such as Goku I am fine with that too. Especially since Goku never encountered a woman before he met Bulma.
For example, Sanji from One Piece. I am okay with him being a pervert, because he's really just a chivalrous perv/gentleman, who has his limits. Like, sure, he is a simp, but would never go overboard when simping for women. There are other examples of this case too like Brock from Pokemon.
As much as I like Master Roshi from Dragon Ball, his perviness did not age well. Literally goes way too far nearly every time, even going as far as to gawk over teenage Bulma. Meliodas from Seven Deadly Sins is also a creep in my eyes because he just gropes Elizabeth 24/7, even before the reveal about the goddeess and demons n shit.
Also, the pervs I like such as Sanji and Brock usually are a lot more than just perverts. Sanji is the cook of the Straw Hats, a member of the Germa Royal Family, and so much more. Brock is a Pokemon breeder, the former Pewter City gym leader, and a long time travel companion of Ash. The pervert I am trying to refer to here who isn't a great example is Mineta from My Hero Academia.
If said pervert is really just a naive child such as Goku I am fine with that too. Especially since Goku never encountered a woman before he met Bulma.
| @Fukoku modern audience like to fantasize bulma and android 18 sleeping with the likes of afro samurai, Simon Brezhnev, Cain Blood, Dutch etc |
| For me, it all depends upon the characterisation of the person. Ryo Saeba from City Hunter is pervy in a funny way, and has enough redeeming qualities to offset his mokkori hunting ways (plus when it comes down to it, he turns down every woman who does end up falling for him). Master Roshi is middle ground, he can be funny, but his pervy antics get stale quickly. And then you have Happosai from Ranma, who for me is just plain annoying running around collecting underwear all the time. |
| I think they are alright. Chivalrous Pervert Stealthy Pervert Woman Pervert Shota Pervert Enlightened Pervert Open Pervert Pervert in Denial |
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