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Mar 7, 2018 9:35 PM
#51
I want to punch the guy who wrote this episode, and kick the one who wrote the music for this thing, god, it was a better ending that a lot of things I have watched in my life, and I've watched a lot, and its not even the ending, I was never on the hype train for this anime, but damn this was beautiful in all senses fuck....this has a serious 10 coming at this rate....currently 9/10 |
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Mar 7, 2018 9:38 PM
#52
Shineee_ said: I loved this episode. They showed how Violet suffered from knowing that Major is 'dead' and also showed how she stood up again, face her burn marks and come to accept it. She doesn't refer herself as a 'tool' anymore. She became 'human'. So I guess we're going back to her adventures then. And it's foreshadowed that the Hijacking Arc will be adapted. I guess it'll be the last one or two episodes. SalmonSandwich said: GreenEmu said: Yeah this does feel like a final episode. I wonder if Kyoani has the balls to keep Gilbert "dead" since he turns out to be alive in the LN. I doubt it. God I REALLY hope they do since it would really be undercutting everything they did last episode and this episode. The novel made it blatant from the beginning of the flashback but in the anime they were really careful to remove any elements of it. They already hinted that Gilbert could be alive. Hodgins said 'She hasn't lost anything' when Cattleya said she lost Gilbert. But yeah, after this episode, I'd like it for Gilbert to remain 'dead'. For novel readers If they adapted Flying letters, how do they adapt it? After all, they already showed Dietfried and I think that's the focus of it and Violet knowing that Gilbert is alive I honestly think flying letters still has great significance, even after Dietfried introduction in ep 5, and even if the adaptation decides to have Gilbert be dead/alive. I REALLY(I beg you Kyoani please D:) wanted to interpret that 'She hasn't lost anything' as a symbolic meaning in correlation with the ending of this episode's conversation with Hodgins. Where her sins won't be erased but neither are her connections/relationships she forges as a auto-memory doll, and not that Gilbert is alive... With the issue of adapting the flying letters chapter. While the conversation between Dietfried and Violet initially serves in the narrative to have Violet realize Gilbert being alive. In the novel Violet realizing that Dietfried would have killed her if Gilbert was truly dead was missing in their first meeting in this adaptation. Since they removed that aspect, the secondary meaning behind their meeting can be more emphasized with their sort of "reconciliation" and "encouragement" from Dietfried to Violet with him declaring to Violet to live on even with her sins. While it rehashes the conversation at the end of this episode, it would be a nice way to end Dietfried development with Violet in this adaptation and let Violet fully let go of her ties as a soldier with her former master. “It’s way harder to stay alive. Still, swallow all of it down and live on. It just so happens that those who can’t do this end up dying. If you won’t die by your own hands, never blame your sins on anyone, and live on. Live, live, live, live, live, live, live, live, live, live, live, live, live, live, live, live, live, live, live, live, live, live…” Dietfriet suddenly let go of Violet’s collar, “and then die.” I don't think the finale will be more then 1 episode. A lot of the final chapter is action heavy set pieces so I find it weird that it would 2 episodes when the narrative heavy stand alone chapters were all adapted in 1 episode. *cough*I also just want it to be one episode so they have more episodes to adapt chapter 3 and 10 *cough* |
SalmonSandwichMar 7, 2018 9:51 PM
Mar 7, 2018 9:39 PM
#53
if this was a movie....it would totally have ended here. beautiful |
Mar 7, 2018 9:56 PM
#54
SalmonSandwich said: Shineee_ said: I loved this episode. They showed how Violet suffered from knowing that Major is 'dead' and also showed how she stood up again, face her burn marks and come to accept it. She doesn't refer herself as a 'tool' anymore. She became 'human'. So I guess we're going back to her adventures then. And it's foreshadowed that the Hijacking Arc will be adapted. I guess it'll be the last one or two episodes. SalmonSandwich said: GreenEmu said: Yeah this does feel like a final episode. I wonder if Kyoani has the balls to keep Gilbert "dead" since he turns out to be alive in the LN. I doubt it. God I REALLY hope they do since it would really be undercutting everything they did last episode and this episode. The novel made it blatant from the beginning of the flashback but in the anime they were really careful to remove any elements of it. They already hinted that Gilbert could be alive. Hodgins said 'She hasn't lost anything' when Cattleya said she lost Gilbert. But yeah, after this episode, I'd like it for Gilbert to remain 'dead'. For novel readers If they adapted Flying letters, how do they adapt it? After all, they already showed Dietfried and I think that's the focus of it and Violet knowing that Gilbert is alive I honestly think flying letters still has great significance, even after Dietfried introduction in ep 5, and even if the adaptation decides to have Gilbert be dead/alive. I REALLY(I beg you Kyoani please D:) wanted to interpret that 'She hasn't lost anything' as a symbolic meaning in correlation with the ending of this episode's conversation with Hodgins. Where her sins won't be erased but neither are her connections/relationships she forges as a auto-memory doll, and not that Gilbert is alive... With the issue of adapting the flying letters chapter. While the conversation between Dietfried and Violet initially serves in the narrative to have Violet realize Gilbert being alive. In the novel Violet realizing the Dietfried would have killed her if Gilbert was truly dead was missing in their first meeting in this adaptation. Since they removed that aspect, the secondary meaning behind their meeting can be more emphasized with their sort of "reconciliation" and "encouragement" from Dietfried to Violet with him declaring to Violet to live on even with her sins. While it rehashes the conversation at the end of this episode, it would be a nice way to end Dietfried development with Violet in this adaptation and let Violet fully let go of her ties as a soldier with her former master. “It’s way harder to stay alive. Still, swallow all of it down and live on. It just so happens that those who can’t do this end up dying. If you won’t die by your own hands, never blame your sins on anyone, and live on. Live, live, live, live, live, live, live, live, live, live, live, live, live, live, live, live, live, live, live, live, live, live…” Dietfriet suddenly let go of Violet’s collar, “and then die.” I don't think the finale will be more then 2 episodes. A lot of the final chapter is action heavy set pieces so I find it weird that it would 2 episodes when the narrative heavy stand alone chapters were all adapted in 1 episodes. *cough*I also just want it to be one episode so they can adapt chapter 3 and 10 *cough* That also works too. I forgot that lol. Now that I remember it, I'd like to see it adapted. But I can't imagine what they'll do with the remaining episodes as others said, it's like the ending episode. I want Chapter 2 and 3 and 10 to be adapted :( But don't you think it'll lose its impact? Isn't those stories serve as like development for Violet? Also about the train What's the point of it getting adapted if Gilbert is truly 'dead'? After all, this doesn't focus on the war and the like. So what do you think? |
Mar 7, 2018 10:00 PM
#55
Anyone noticed Violet's journey started out of desperation to know the meaning of "I love you." and those very words became her salvation? If it weren't for those words, she wouldn't have become an Auto Memoir Doll. By becoming a Doll, she learned so many things than just the meaning of "I love you." It started so simple and I actually had this on the back of my mind that how far they can actually carry the story just based on Violet finding the meaning of those few, albeit profound words yet it ended up becoming a truly memorable story of an emotionless animal-like girl finding her humanity. This time Violet will truly become a Doll. Not just to know the meaning of the words she was so desperate to know about but in her way to find salvation by bringing people together with her new set of hands that replaced the bloodstained hands – hands those took away the hopes and promises of so many in the past. This anime just upped every single winter anime this season by this single episode. There is a reason why they chose to give the title of this episode [Violet Evergarden] because it truly marked a significant point of the story. At this point, it won't be a stretch to think that the remaining 5 episodes will be After Story following Violet truly embracing humanity and becoming a Doll not just in work but in heart. As for Gilbert being alive or not, I find it funny how would Gilbert being shown alive make everything pointless for the development Violet had gone through? She still had to go through the painful experience of losing something that meant the world to her, overcoming her sadness and finding new reason to live on, no? How does her experience get negated in the odd chance that Gilbert is shown alive later? |
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Mar 7, 2018 10:05 PM
#56
Mar 7, 2018 10:10 PM
#57
Shineee_ said: SalmonSandwich said: Shineee_ said: I loved this episode. They showed how Violet suffered from knowing that Major is 'dead' and also showed how she stood up again, face her burn marks and come to accept it. She doesn't refer herself as a 'tool' anymore. She became 'human'. So I guess we're going back to her adventures then. And it's foreshadowed that the Hijacking Arc will be adapted. I guess it'll be the last one or two episodes. SalmonSandwich said: GreenEmu said: Yeah this does feel like a final episode. I wonder if Kyoani has the balls to keep Gilbert "dead" since he turns out to be alive in the LN. I doubt it. God I REALLY hope they do since it would really be undercutting everything they did last episode and this episode. The novel made it blatant from the beginning of the flashback but in the anime they were really careful to remove any elements of it. They already hinted that Gilbert could be alive. Hodgins said 'She hasn't lost anything' when Cattleya said she lost Gilbert. But yeah, after this episode, I'd like it for Gilbert to remain 'dead'. For novel readers If they adapted Flying letters, how do they adapt it? After all, they already showed Dietfried and I think that's the focus of it and Violet knowing that Gilbert is alive I honestly think flying letters still has great significance, even after Dietfried introduction in ep 5, and even if the adaptation decides to have Gilbert be dead/alive. I REALLY(I beg you Kyoani please D:) wanted to interpret that 'She hasn't lost anything' as a symbolic meaning in correlation with the ending of this episode's conversation with Hodgins. Where her sins won't be erased but neither are her connections/relationships she forges as a auto-memory doll, and not that Gilbert is alive... With the issue of adapting the flying letters chapter. While the conversation between Dietfried and Violet initially serves in the narrative to have Violet realize Gilbert being alive. In the novel Violet realizing the Dietfried would have killed her if Gilbert was truly dead was missing in their first meeting in this adaptation. Since they removed that aspect, the secondary meaning behind their meeting can be more emphasized with their sort of "reconciliation" and "encouragement" from Dietfried to Violet with him declaring to Violet to live on even with her sins. While it rehashes the conversation at the end of this episode, it would be a nice way to end Dietfried development with Violet in this adaptation and let Violet fully let go of her ties as a soldier with her former master. “It’s way harder to stay alive. Still, swallow all of it down and live on. It just so happens that those who can’t do this end up dying. If you won’t die by your own hands, never blame your sins on anyone, and live on. Live, live, live, live, live, live, live, live, live, live, live, live, live, live, live, live, live, live, live, live, live, live…” Dietfriet suddenly let go of Violet’s collar, “and then die.” I don't think the finale will be more then 2 episodes. A lot of the final chapter is action heavy set pieces so I find it weird that it would 2 episodes when the narrative heavy stand alone chapters were all adapted in 1 episodes. *cough*I also just want it to be one episode so they can adapt chapter 3 and 10 *cough* That also works too. I forgot that lol. Now that I remember it, I'd like to see it adapted. But I can't imagine what they'll do with the remaining episodes as others said, it's like the ending episode. I want Chapter 2 and 3 and 10 to be adapted :( But don't you think it'll lose its impact? Isn't those stories serve as like development for Violet? Also about the train What's the point of it getting adapted if Gilbert is truly 'dead'? After all, this doesn't focus on the war and the like. So what do you think? I honestly think it would have more impact but I could see how you can feel it doesn't. Chapter 2, would fit the narrative of Violet overcoming grief and teaching it to others with Ann's mother dying. However this would be less a priority to adapt imo versus ch 3 and 10. Chapter 3 and 10 more specifically should take priority. Chapter 3 with it being related to her history as a soldier, and re-contextualizing her experiences with overcoming grief/PTSD with one story being related to a dying soldier and failing to save him thus Violet empathizing with the family since she couldn't save Gilbert as well. Chapter 10 same reason, but showing how different her life could have been if she wasn't in Gilbert's guidance and/or if her country lost the war. Yeah the finale does lose some of its impact if Gilbert is dead, but you can also see it as Violet showing how much she has grown and changed with a cool action set piece. Violet who was a cold-hearted murderer who saves civilians instead by the end of the story, without killing the insurgents. Also it serves narrative context to the war, since the past few episode have hinted the North wasn't satisfied with the end of the war, and the whole train hijacking happened so they could spark another war in the novel if I remember correctly. Honestly all they really have to change is Violet overcoming that last fight barely instead of having Gilbert save her. Honestly they could go all anime original from here on as well. I wouldn't be surprised xD |
SalmonSandwichMar 7, 2018 10:22 PM
Mar 7, 2018 11:00 PM
#58
So the shot from the previous episode came from the front, and those two soldiers were behind them...must have been a stray bullet...And Violet's arms...one was shot off clean, and the other just slipped off...uhh...ok... Ok...the music during Violet's emotional breakdown is lit...Dem Violins...Somebody find the OST for that. And her trying to kill herself? That scene so reminds me of a certain episode in Cross Ange... Heels are for MEN! "I realize that receiving a letter makes one very happy." Not always Violet. Not always... First few minutes were a little eh, but the rest of the episode was great. It hurts, but you have to move on. So keep stepping forward Violet. Honestly, the series could have ended here, and I would have been fine with it. So what would they be planning for the rest of the series? |
Mar 8, 2018 12:52 AM
#59
This episode hit me in the feels man. Wow. So...this felt way too much like a finale as opposed to just being the 9th episode with 5 more left to go. In fact, this does feel like a good place to end it in a way but hey, let's see what the 5 eps left have to say. |
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Mar 8, 2018 1:25 AM
#60
This episode was the best episode by far, even though in terms of art and animation it is comparable to the average episodes but the emotional development by Violet and the OSTs made it that much better especially the reflection that was made by Violet's actions as a ghostwriter to her clients. |
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Mar 8, 2018 2:34 AM
#61
After 9 episode still didn't find this show particularly interesting... Just imo, don't be trigger |
Mar 8, 2018 2:43 AM
#62
One of the most powerful and well-made anime episodes of all time. Yes. I'm not exaggerating. This whole episode was put together in a way that made you reflect on Violet's journey as a whole. Violet's VA deserves a reward for that performance, one of the best crying moments I've seen. So many feelings conveyed in her voice, brilliant! Going from depression, to self-reflection, to suicide thoughts, again self-reflection and then finally asking if it's OK for her to even live! |
Mar 8, 2018 2:50 AM
#63
This episode was salvaged by Violet's god tier voice acting and the transition towards the ending. Otherwise too melodramatic, cheesy and awkward. |
Mar 8, 2018 3:05 AM
#64
gnodab said: This episode was salvaged by Violet's god tier voice acting and the transition towards the ending. Otherwise too melodramatic, cheesy and awkward. it's fine if you didn't like the ep but god damn is it annoying when people use words they clearly don't understand |
Mar 8, 2018 3:50 AM
#66
The lightning for this show in night time is really bad for some reason, however in the daytime sequence or near fire looks algoods. I really wished this show had alot more depth though, The majority of this episodes works is due to Kyoani. the subtle moments with raindrops on the clothes, gust of wind, people in the background has actually designed..... Some of the digital was just jaw-dropping to say the least. However not so much the script, this probably the best episode of the series but still the sounds sync was werid especially 2nd half. If alot of these character that violet talked to acted more human ( cause character driven story) and violet slowly starts to get feeling like she did in this show i think that been way more effective. When i watch something like Monster the episode that have nothing related to the plot, just a side story some of the characters just felt so real its really a shame. With just a better script and improve the lighting for night this would have been great. However atm its just good. |
Mar 8, 2018 3:55 AM
#67
You must read the light novel if you don"t satisfied with the ending. Seriously but I found out the light novel one really makes me shed tears than the anime. But, overall the anime is so cool. With the superb background and wonderful characters is really make this anime worth watching. I give 9.5 point for this. :) |
Mar 8, 2018 4:10 AM
#68
That felt like an ending, why is there another 5 episodes |
Mar 8, 2018 4:11 AM
#69
Haruna_hanasaki said: You must read the light novel if you don"t satisfied with the ending. Anime is anime. Manga is manga. LN is LN. and so far and so forth. Your sentence is the downfall of many anime. LN is beautiful, yeah, though. That's why it's worth feeling disappointed, of this adaptation. It's never going to be as good as what was overhyped, yeah, but I think we agree here that the plot here loses a bit of its power, due to... lots of issues. |
Mar 8, 2018 4:11 AM
#70
Honestly, the explanation of he backstory felt really underwhelming. It's kinda just "the bad guys are really bad" (eg: yeah just use this orphan little girl as a weapon and just throw her in a ditch after you're done) and the way she loses her arms doesn't really make sense. She gets shot in the arm (which is very unlikely to ever chop an arm off) and then a grenade takes the other one, which doesn't make much more sense. We didn't really need further explanation on how Violet became a soldier, how she loses her arms and how Major died, but: - for the soldier part, they don't really explain it. They just say she's super strong without further explanation, which takes away from the immersion and realism. After all, they could've just said she was normal and forced to serve for the army behind Major, it didn't really add anything tot he story that's she's a ninja. Also is there a point in making the guys who forced her into the army that heartless? That's just stupidly heartless, they could've just said "I know it feels bad but she's a real asset on the battlefield", but no, instead she's treated like cannon fodder when she's a superhero ninja. - for the arms part, they explain it, but they really shouldn't have. It's lame and we don't really care. Could've just said she lost them in the last battle and that's it. - for Major's death, more of the same. He died in battle next to Violet. That's enough to justify the trauma. But instead, they make him just stand there wide open in a rooftop and get shot. The development of the characters is pretty on point though. Violet learns and all, the other characters develop etc. It's pretty cheesy and nothing amazing but the art and the soundtrack really sells it and makes it great. Although I have a feeling that if you bingewatch the series you'll probably get tired of the over the top emotional reactions from the characters. |
Mar 8, 2018 4:34 AM
#71
That was predictable for the most part, but still pretty good. Very emotional episode, especially last 5+ minutes, and the music this time was beatiful! + think it's quite nice that all the characters/stories were shown. Still 5 episodes, wonder what's going to happen there?! |
Mar 8, 2018 5:01 AM
#73
this made me cry a little bit |
Mar 8, 2018 5:22 AM
#74
what the name ending song like sems legit btw *sorry for bad grammar :) |
Mar 8, 2018 5:32 AM
#75
What about the other soldier that they killed just like that. In wars, winners tell the story. No matter how ugly it is, they can make it beautiful. |
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Mar 8, 2018 5:34 AM
#76
HOW TO GIVE A "SCORE 10"??? HOLY SHIT THAT EPISODE WAS INCREDIBLE |
Mar 8, 2018 5:37 AM
#77
well, that was an interesting episode -even if there was some cringy crying scene by violet... oooh, but this is runnung deep; i feel so sorry for violet. everything has just awry for her. you know when violet was looking at 'violets?' i realised that the main group of girls have a plant as their name which are: -violet -iris -erica -cattleya -and quite possibly luculia* ('cause she or her brother have shown up more often than not). *=luculia is named after a plant, but i said quite possibly since she does not appear as often as the others. P.S. i write this knowing that it may actually be some pointless information everyone already knows. who's this? i dont recognise him. (is it gilber? no, i cant be, can it? im at a loss with this -WHY DO THEY GIVE A SIDE VIEW) |
Mar 8, 2018 5:44 AM
#78
The emotion not so strong, but it was great episode. The direction they use is perfect. I dont mind if later Gilbert appear alive, but they must make a good approach for it. |
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Mar 8, 2018 5:48 AM
#79
I swear, I just about banged my head, thinking this was the last episode... But, it really was a nice episode... those emotions really made me cry ;-; |
Mar 8, 2018 5:49 AM
#80
tambi33 said: well, that was an interesting episode -even if there was some cringy crying scene by violet... oooh, but this is runnung deep; i feel so sorry for violet. everything has just awry for her. you know when violet was looking at 'violets?' i realised that the main group of girls have a plant as their name which are: -violet -iris -erica -cattleya -and quite possibly luculia* ('cause she or her brother have shown up more often than not). *=luculia is named after a plant, but i said quite possibly since she does not appear as often as the others. P.S. i write this knowing that it may actually be some pointless information everyone already knows. who's this? i dont recognise him. (is it gilber? no, i cant be, can it? im at a loss with this -WHY DO THEY GIVE A SIDE VIEW) He is that guy from the obvservatory..... remember episode 6? Yeah, that's him.. |
Mar 8, 2018 5:52 AM
#81
Although it felt like a final episode, the feels were incredibly strong throughout. It got me shedding tears multiple times too. T_T It was nerve wracking to see Violet going through all of the emotions. From the intense anger and worry during the flashback, to the heartbreaking sadness and crying as she struggled to get a hold of herself. When she tried to strangle herself, it left me speechless for a moment, but she thankfully didn't follow through in the suicide attempt right there in her room. Hodgins and the rest were worried and they played a very good part in helping Violet to get back on her feet, especially the kind old postal man whose words to her were very reassuring and kind. Same goes for the letter to Violet as well, which made the last 5 minutes very impactful. Animation, soundtrack, voice acting, the lot. I don't rate shows when they're airing, but if I did, I'll rate it a 9 thanks to this episode. =) The only problem now is with 5 episodes left to go, I wonder where the story is going to go. Maybe an After Story route? Who knows, but I hope the last 5 episodes are really good. |
Mar 8, 2018 6:54 AM
#82
No, it is not over yet! They still employ children soldiers. Someone has to slap them some, and that is why there are three more episodes. Now the part I have been waiting for begins. |
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Mar 8, 2018 7:10 AM
#83
Oh, geez, the entire time watching the episode, I had goosebumps. my heart just swelled by the last few minutes starting when Violet stepped forward. I can't believe there are only five episodes left. |
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Mar 8, 2018 7:10 AM
#84
TheInspiredConj said: tambi33 said: well, that was an interesting episode -even if there was some cringy crying scene by violet... oooh, but this is runnung deep; i feel so sorry for violet. everything has just awry for her. you know when violet was looking at 'violets?' i realised that the main group of girls have a plant as their name which are: -violet -iris -erica -cattleya -and quite possibly luculia* ('cause she or her brother have shown up more often than not). *=luculia is named after a plant, but i said quite possibly since she does not appear as often as the others. P.S. i write this knowing that it may actually be some pointless information everyone already knows. who's this? i dont recognise him. (is it gilber? no, i cant be, can it? im at a loss with this -WHY DO THEY GIVE A SIDE VIEW) He is that guy from the obvservatory..... remember episode 6? Yeah, that's him.. TheInspiredConj said: tambi33 said: well, that was an interesting episode -even if there was some cringy crying scene by violet... oooh, but this is runnung deep; i feel so sorry for violet. everything has just awry for her. you know when violet was looking at 'violets?' i realised that the main group of girls have a plant as their name which are: -violet -iris -erica -cattleya -and quite possibly luculia* ('cause she or her brother have shown up more often than not). *=luculia is named after a plant, but i said quite possibly since she does not appear as often as the others. P.S. i write this knowing that it may actually be some pointless information everyone already knows. who's this? i dont recognise him. (is it gilber? no, i cant be, can it? im at a loss with this -WHY DO THEY GIVE A SIDE VIEW) He is that guy from the obvservatory..... remember episode 6? Yeah, that's him.. oh yeah, he was such a salad of a character... i had already forgotten him XDXD |
Mar 8, 2018 7:36 AM
#85
Does anyone know what the OST at 13:00 is called? It already appeared a few times but I just can’t figure it out |
Mar 8, 2018 7:47 AM
#86
Ok this episode is kinda tough for me tbh. I feel like it is a really nice Jekyll and Hyde episode. On one hand I can see that the last 5 minutes of the Episode were kinda good. They finally tried to tie back in all of the previous episodes and give them purpose. Also seeing Violet finally crack was also overdue. Also they gave Violet a personal connection to the letters and make her move on. Still the whole letter delivery didn't made me as emotional as the postmen episode from the 2nd Season of Aria.(Probably cause at this point I grew too cold for this show.) I mean let's start of with my biggest complain which ties into my Violet Evergarden feels like a B-Tier stage play. I mean in a sense I can see the stage directions so easily in the first 5 minutes. First Gilbert gets shot in the eye (non-lethal) Then Violet runs towards him and shoots on of the attackers. Attacker 2 leaves the stage out of fear. Violet tries to pull Glibert to safty. Attacker 3 appears and fires one bullet at Violet. She gets hit and her arm falls of. Gilbert kills Attacker 3. Attacker 2 enters back on the stage and throws a grenade. Explosion. Next Set: Violet is seen losing her arm Gilbert on the ground. Etc. It just feels so inorganic. Besides that it does try to include the most amount of drama, while skipping over the logic. I can see why people think that is beautiful, but for me it completly breaks the immersion. I mean why do none of the enemy soldiers try to escape when they notice that they get bombed by their own side ? Why does the 3rd Attacker shoot Violets arm, when he has a steady aim, is a trained soldier and has a slow moving target in front of him ? Why does he only fire one shot at her ? Was he on his last bullet or something ? I mean in comparison Gilbert pulled of a deadly shot with one eye from the same distance and he needed to shot fast. Also how did Violet get to a safe space, while carrying Gilbert ? I mean she only noticed the grenade when it hit the ground right behind her. Also the explosion radius wasn't that small. Besides that how exactly did Violet lose her arm from that explosions ? Normal explosions blast of the arm, yet it looks like it was cut off. Even if it would have been a fragmentation grenade there should have still been some splitters in her arm from that. All those things sound small on paper. Yet if you notice those they break the immersion badly and the scene loses it's serious nature. I mean you could compare it to the first scene from Guilty Crown where Robots that had a target system couldn't hit/capture a single girl that was running away from them. That is only one of my problems the rest involve the construct of the show as a whole, but going into detail with that would take a bit longer. ^^ |
BlueSkylarkMar 8, 2018 7:51 AM
Mar 8, 2018 7:47 AM
#87
Kamereon-senpai said: Honestly, the explanation of he backstory felt really underwhelming. It's kinda just "the bad guys are really bad" (eg: yeah just use this orphan little girl as a weapon and just throw her in a ditch after you're done) and the way she loses her arms doesn't really make sense. She gets shot in the arm (which is very unlikely to ever chop an arm off) and then a grenade takes the other one, which doesn't make much more sense. We didn't really need further explanation on how Violet became a soldier, how she loses her arms and how Major died, but: - for the soldier part, they don't really explain it. They just say she's super strong without further explanation, which takes away from the immersion and realism. After all, they could've just said she was normal and forced to serve for the army behind Major, it didn't really add anything tot he story that's she's a ninja. Also is there a point in making the guys who forced her into the army that heartless? That's just stupidly heartless, they could've just said "I know it feels bad but she's a real asset on the battlefield", but no, instead she's treated like cannon fodder when she's a superhero ninja. - for the arms part, they explain it, but they really shouldn't have. It's lame and we don't really care. Could've just said she lost them in the last battle and that's it. - for Major's death, more of the same. He died in battle next to Violet. That's enough to justify the trauma. But instead, they make him just stand there wide open in a rooftop and get shot. The development of the characters is pretty on point though. Violet learns and all, the other characters develop etc. It's pretty cheesy and nothing amazing but the art and the soundtrack really sells it and makes it great. Although I have a feeling that if you bingewatch the series you'll probably get tired of the over the top emotional reactions from the characters. At least they got rid of the huge battle axe. That would've made it worse... BlueSkylark said: I mean let's start of with my biggest complain which ties into my Violet Evergarden feels like a B-Tier stage play. I mean in a sense I can see the stage directions so easily in the first 5 minutes. First Gilbert gets shot in the eye (non-lethal) Then Violet runs towards him and shoots on of the attackers. Attacker 2 leaves the stage out of fear. Violet tries to pull Glibert to safty. Attacker 3 appears and fires one bullet at Violet. She gets hit and her arm falls of. Gilbert kills Attacker 3. Attacker 2 enters back on the stage and throws a grenade. Explosion. Next Set: Violet is seen losing her arm Gilbert on the ground. Etc. It just feels so inorganic. Besides that it does try to include the most amount of drama, while skipping over the logic. I can see why people think that is beautiful, but for me it completly breaks the immersion. I mean why do none of the enemy soldiers try to escape when they notice that they get bombed by their own side ? Why does the 3rd Attacker shoot Violets arm, when he has a steady aim, is a trained soldier and has a slow moving target in front of him ? Why does he only fire one shot at her ? Was he on his last bullet or something ? I mean in comparison Gilbert pulled of a deadly shot with one eye from the same distance and he needed to shot fast. Also how did Violet get to a safe space, while carrying Gilbert ? I mean she only noticed the grenade when it hit the ground right behind her. Also the explosion radius wasn't that small. Besides that how exactly did Violet lose her arm from that explosions ? Normal explosions blast of the arm, yet it looks like it was cut off. Even if it would have been a fragmentation grenade there should have still been some splitters in her arm from that. All those things sound small on paper. Yet if you notice those they break the immersion badly and the scene loses it's serious nature. I mean you could compare it to the first scene from Guilty Crown where Robots that had a target system couldn't hit/capture a single girl that was running away from them. Couldn't agree more. The execution of battle scenes has been pretty poor compared to the novel. If you're interested, I can tell you how things had taken place in the novel. Before Gilbert and Violet even start going up the stairs, Gilbert has to hold off against enemy soldiers and tells Violet to go alone to fire the signal flare. When she reaches the top floor, there are 4 soldiers, "long-range shooters and observers". Using her battle-axe, Violet "slashed the arms and legs of three of them, shredding them to death." "A bullet grazed her belly and dented the flesh of her arm." Then she slays the neck of the last man. She fires the flare. Then she gets shot from behind: her right shoulder gets shot at close range, opening "a big hole" in it. While the soldier tries to reload, "she instantly took out her own gun with her left hand and fired a shot while turning around." "She killed a soldier holding a large rifle who had failed to shoot her in the brain." Despite her injuries, she comes back downstairs to help Gilbert, "more blood" flowing out and leaving a trail of blood. What she saw was this: "Gilbert lay in the middle of the stairs, about to be stabbed to death by an enemy soldier’s bayonet. The enemy’s hands derailed at Violet’s voice (She was calling "Major" multiple times to find him), but the bayonet’s tip pierced into Gilbert’s face." She threw the battle-axe with one hand and cut the enemy’s torso. He collapsed. Violent also fell down with the momentum. She then crawled towards Gilbert. One of Gilbert’s eyes had been gouged and he bore severe wounds. His breathing was critically shallow. His hand and legs were bloody with bullet and sword scratches. She forces her arms to carry him on her back. "Her dominant arm could not withstand it and she succumbed. She rolled down a few steps, stood up once more and stretched a hand out towards Gilbert. As she had used up too much strength, her arms sagged from her shoulders. Her dominant one was unlikely to be able to wield weapons." Then, amazingly, she tries to get down with Gilbert using the arm that still worked. But, a group of armed men come from downstairs. "Violet picked up the battle-axe once again and slashed the enemies with one hand. She mercilessly struck the counterweight chain towards those who tried to make their way through and cracked their skulls with its tip." "She then repeated her previous actions. Still trying to carry Gilbert, enemies would continue to come from downstairs. She would kill them. More would appear. She could not move forward." However... "Violet wound up allowing a lone young soldier, who shouted as he rushed in, to deliver a blow. Her scream was not audible. His saber gnawed through the base of her other arm." The young, "inexperienced" soldier runs away realizing that the person he had attacked was a young girl. Violet continues to try to use both of her arms, bleeding and cramping, to hold onto the collar of Gilbert's battle uniform and drag him. Finally, "Her dominant arm, which had been only hanging flaccidly, fell to the ground." As for the other arm: "her breaths came out as wheezes and, putting her remaining strength on the arm that had been stabbed by a bayonet, she went down one step at a time. The more she moved, the more the blade cut into her flesh." "Her only arm left betrayed her and fell apart as well." "Even so, while biting her lips tightly, she resumed climbing the stairs using only her knees. Yet her body had lost its balance without her arms. She slipped onto the steps many times and rolled down the stairs. She would fall and stand up, fall and stand up. Worrying only about Gilbert, she turned the stairway into a sea of blood." I personally think the novel version is a bit better, but then again using the battle-axe is a bit too much... I'd be glad to hear your feedback. |
Major_GilbertMar 8, 2018 8:39 AM
"Le vent se lève!... Il faut tenter de vivre!" - Paul Valéry, Le Cimetière Marin - |
Mar 8, 2018 7:48 AM
#88
This episode is my favorite so far. The music insert towards the end was pretty good. |
Mar 8, 2018 8:23 AM
#89
GreenEmu said: SalmonSandwich said: GreenEmu said: Yeah this does feel like a final episode. I wonder if Kyoani has the balls to keep Gilbert "dead" since he turns out to be alive in the LN. I doubt it. God I REALLY hope they do since it would really be undercutting everything they did last episode and this episode. The novel made it blatant from the beginning of the flashback but in the anime they were really careful to remove any elements of it. Given that we have five more episodes, I doubt it. Gilbert x Violet is otp so |
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Mar 8, 2018 8:24 AM
#90
I wanted to stay positive but somehow this series managed to put me off with this episode. As a person who is really sensitive to drama, I just watched the whole ep with straight face. It would be the worst one so far if not Benedict and his shoes. still 2/5 |
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Mar 8, 2018 8:24 AM
#91
tambi33 said: I write this knowing that it may actually be some pointless information everyone already knows. Pointless at this point since it was discussed earlier. It's not just Luculia and the Dolls working at CH Postal. Iberis and Bluebell (Violet and Luculia's classmates), Rhodanthe (their teacher in Doll's school), Stephanotis (Leon's surname, the boy from the Observatory), Bougainvillea (Gilbert's surname), Alberta (the maid of the Princess which is otherwise known as wild rose country), Blue (Benedict's surname which is from Georgia Blue) are all named after or related to flowers. |
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Mar 8, 2018 8:42 AM
#92
Mezo-RPWPA said: how many chapters did the anime cover so far? Episode 1: Chapter 8 Episode 2: Original Episode 3: Original Episode 4: Original Episode 5: Original Episode 6: Chapter 4 Episode 7: Chapter 1 Episode 8: Part of Chapter 6 Episode 9: Rest of Chapter 6 Even if I say that some episodes have adapted certain chapters, some original content has always been added. |
"Le vent se lève!... Il faut tenter de vivre!" - Paul Valéry, Le Cimetière Marin - |
Mar 8, 2018 9:06 AM
#93
How can this anime be so damn beautiful?? |
Mar 8, 2018 9:19 AM
#94
This anime just keeps getting better and better. I still can't get over the scene when Violet tries to kill herself... Still, this whole episode felt like a conclusion to Violet's story. Wonder what will happen in the next few episodes. |
Mar 8, 2018 9:25 AM
#95
Mar 8, 2018 9:37 AM
#96
Wow, I can not watch Violet Evergarden and I do not feel this whirlwind of feelings, the way they developed her story is very good! And I can not deny that there are times when I feel "burning." _________________________________________________________________ Nossa não consigo assistir Violet Evergarden e não sentir esse turbilhão de sentimentos, a forma como desenvolveram a historia dela esta muito boa! E não posso negar que há momentos em que me sinto "queimando". |
Mar 8, 2018 9:42 AM
#97
Major_Gilbert said: Couldn't agree more. The execution of battle scenes has been pretty poor compared to the novel. If you're interested, I can tell you how things had taken place in the novel. Before Gilbert and Violet even start going up the stairs, Gilbert has to hold off against enemy soldiers and tells Violet to go alone to fire the signal flare. When she reaches the top floor, there are 4 soldiers, "long-range shooters and observers". Using her battle-axe, Violet "slashed the arms and legs of three of them, shredding them to death." "A bullet grazed her belly and dented the flesh of her arm." Then she slays the neck of the last man. She fires the flare. Then she gets shot from behind: her right shoulder gets shot at close range, opening "a big hole" in it. While the soldier tries to reload, "she instantly took out her own gun with her left hand and fired a shot while turning around." "She killed a soldier holding a large rifle who had failed to shoot her in the brain." Despite her injuries, she comes back downstairs to help Gilbert, "more blood" flowing out and leaving a trail of blood. What she saw was this: "Gilbert lay in the middle of the stairs, about to be stabbed to death by an enemy soldier’s bayonet. The enemy’s hands derailed at Violet’s voice (She was calling "Major" multiple times to find him), but the bayonet’s tip pierced into Gilbert’s face." She threw the battle-axe with one hand and cut the enemy’s torso. He collapsed. Violent also fell down with the momentum. She then crawled towards Gilbert. One of Gilbert’s eyes had been gouged and he bore severe wounds. His breathing was critically shallow. His hand and legs were bloody with bullet and sword scratches. She forces her arms to carry him on her back. "Her dominant arm could not withstand it and she succumbed. She rolled down a few steps, stood up once more and stretched a hand out towards Gilbert. As she had used up too much strength, her arms sagged from her shoulders. Her dominant one was unlikely to be able to wield weapons." Then, amazingly, she tries to get down with Gilbert using the arm that still worked. But, a group of armed men come from downstairs. "Violet picked up the battle-axe once again and slashed the enemies with one hand. She mercilessly struck the counterweight chain towards those who tried to make their way through and cracked their skulls with its tip." "She then repeated her previous actions. Still trying to carry Gilbert, enemies would continue to come from downstairs. She would kill them. More would appear. She could not move forward." However... "Violet wound up allowing a lone young soldier, who shouted as he rushed in, to deliver a blow. Her scream was not audible. His saber gnawed through the base of her other arm." The young, "inexperienced" soldier runs away realizing that the person he had attacked was a young girl. Violet continues to try to use both of her arms, bleeding and cramping, to hold onto the collar of Gilbert's battle uniform and drag him. Finally, "Her dominant arm, which had been only hanging flaccidly, fell to the ground." As for the other arm: "her breaths came out as wheezes and, putting her remaining strength on the arm that had been stabbed by a bayonet, she went down one step at a time. The more she moved, the more the blade cut into her flesh." "Her only arm left betrayed her and fell apart as well." "Even so, while biting her lips tightly, she resumed climbing the stairs using only her knees. Yet her body had lost its balance without her arms. She slipped onto the steps many times and rolled down the stairs. She would fall and stand up, fall and stand up. Worrying only about Gilbert, she turned the stairway into a sea of blood." I personally think the novel version is a bit better, but then again using the battle-axe is a bit too much... I'd be glad to hear your feedback. Thanks that you took the time to look up the novel part of it. It really could have fixed a lot of my issues I had especially with the baretta part and that there was no grenade. The battle ax is a bit strange, but it would fit Violets combat style more than a normal gun. ^^' It feels like KyoAni is the one to blame them. aka the same director that screwed up Kyoukai no Kanata. -__- |
Mar 8, 2018 11:04 AM
#98
That messed me up. Then the music kicked in at the end and I was a wreck. I wonder how they will continue from here. It seems as if her primary conflict has been resolved. So the last 5 episodes has to be some concluding arc. Hope it lives up to what has been established with Violet now that she has resolved to live on. |
Mar 8, 2018 11:07 AM
#99
I didn't like how the first half of this episode simply felt like there wasn't any point to it. Might as well have been a lot shorter, especially since almost nothing really happened. Also the scene where she choked herself was really weirdly executed with the music feeling completely out place - an excellent example of a scene that would have worked a lot better with no music at all. That made me realize that this issue with music that's good on its own but not really in tune with the scene is bigger in VE than I admitted so far. The second half was just fine though. Even though there wasn't a lot going on in this one, it's incredible just how much KyoAni manages to fit into a single episode. Even this episode felt like it was half an hour and pretty much every single other episode urges me to check if it was more than the usual 24 minutes. I think it's simply a well directed show. |
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