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Jagd84 said: Esquirtit said: there's no point in her being a slave lol some lazy ass shit weak episode enjoyed the first one way more and how tf does his shield even work that's like the only thing I look forward too You hit on exactly what the problem with use of slavery in this series is besides the obvious moral issues. Because even if you don't care about that it's still very pointless angle of the story. You could do everything about Naofumi and Raph's relationship in 2nd episode without even being thing. Naofumi's attempts to force do things with pain never work and stop doing at end of episode. Nobody in this thread is taking about because you just ignore it. It is not an element critically engaged in series and only exists to attract edgelords until characters start forming similiar relationships you see in most isekai. For that matter all the isekai that involve the MC participanting slave feisthism are just like SH, where all protags are nice to their slaves so it is okay, harem or otherwise. It is bad plot device that would have been better served not being there. But its huge trend on Narou ever since Slave Harem so everyone does it. As far 2nd episode is concerned, I don't have any issues with pacing. If anything its better improve Naofumi and Raph relationship to acceptable standards for the shows interest. What was lost is minor anyway. There was a point to having Raphtalia be a slave. Here are several reasons: 1. Naofumi was traumatized and had severe trust issues. He could not trust anyone unless they literally could not betray or disobey him. That's how low he has sunken. 2. Everyone in Melromarc hates Naofumi so finding any other companion apart from a slave would be extremely hard for him. Even if he could have conceivably recruited a street urchin or some random demi-human off the street it was nowhere near as foolproof as buying a slave with a slave seal. 3. Naofumi was running out of time. The next wave was in a few weeks and he was already severely underleveled. He needed an offensive option ASAP so he can level up enough to survive. 4. Naofumi also had the ulterior motive of treating Raphtalia like shit so he can pretend that he had enslaved Myne, all to satisfy his personal grudge. But then he saw that Raphtalia was 10x worse off than he was and abandoned the idea. |
| I must say I was appalled by the way Naofumi treated Raphtalia at first, but he soon changed a bit towards her. I guess the dude is nice by nature and can't help it, he even protected her against those dogs. Here's to the beginning of a good great companionship. I wish they would go back to that human/monster/demihuman/whatever trafficker and punish him somehow. I just hate those type of people and it seems like the show won't do anything to such a bad shit. Funny how so many people hated Goblin slayer because of one censored rape scene, but don't condemn this for trafficking. The way Goblin Slayer approached that episode at the end was great, but Raphtalia is still a slave to the shield hero although in a different way. Hypocrisy is sky high here! |
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| some how i was hoping its gonna be 40+ min episode haha |
| pretty damn fast pacing huh. well its been okay |
| Amazing episode!!! My favorite anime this season. |
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| I can't describe how much i'm loving this right now! (not counting mob psycho) This is probably the best anime of this season! I don't get the controversy with this show, it's been fantastic so far! Raphtalia is so cute, and i'm glad that the MC's heart melted way faster than i thought xD Can't wait for more of their adventures, i'm loving this so much! |
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| Raphtalia is too fucking pure for this world! I love badass Naofumi |
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| Mai san now is half racoon while sakuta is captain murica. Anyway I like that ending song. |
rsc-pl said: I actually did. You said it was a bad idea to represent it as a racoon, which is wrong considering that a racoon dog looks almost like a racoonnightcrawlercyp said: tanuki means racoon dog and looks like a racoon Did you even bother to read my post? |
| This episode felt a bit rushed especially compared to the first episode. |
| I read the equivalent manga chapters yesterday. Watching it the first time, it felt rushed to me, despite firmly hitting all the major plot points and still fitting in some small things. Upon a rewatch, however, it didn’t feel rushed at all. |
| yup. I so got this. But I guess he thought that it does not matter considering that everyone will believe he will do that regardless. At least this way they will not bother him. |
| The cringe is strong with this episode. Good job at portraying it though. |
bla bla bla The endless debate between fans and haters. At one point, after spending a lot of time on MAL, you just realize it's totally pointless.Niko-kun said: On MAL, everyone who has used the lame rating system becomes a critic and an intellectual by default, haven't you heard? |
| Pretty excellent stuff so far. I'm engaged with Naofumi's development as a character. He's someone who no longer cares to wear a mask. Upon realizing the harsh realities of the world, he's willing do anything it takes to get stronger and achieve his goals in it. Naofumi bares many of my favorite character tropes, and it'll be interesting to see how they're explored further as the story unfolds. And um, Raphtalia is adorable. Glad they gave us a backstory. On another note — that fact that people give these fake outragers (on twitter or elsewhere) their time of day is beyond me. Attention is your most valuable asset. Don't use it to feed the plebs. |
| this anime is actually a masterpiece |
Talcon said: This is... absolutely repulsive. Shame on anyone and everyone involved in this project, and a pox upon those see this show and go "/\'3'/\ cute daughteruu must protecc" Filth. Utter filth. This episode was pretty disturbing but this is actually by design. Unfortunately a lot of viewers seems to be missing the point on how messed up this relationship is so far. |
bla bla bla The endless debate between fans and haters. At one point, after spending a lot of time on MAL, you just realize it's totally pointless.Niko-kun said: On MAL, everyone who has used the lame rating system becomes a critic and an intellectual by default, haven't you heard? |
| So the show is enjoyable, despite glaring plot and characterization issues. What I don't understand is the controversy. Naofumi is not that bad of a person by anime character standards, and even what is show on TV there are people much WORSE than he is--yet he's portrayed as literally Hitler on social media. Compare him to any of the Drifters, Juno, or even the atrocities Momonga lets his subordinates do in his name and he's a saint. He's a prick by isekai standards--but that fanbase may want to grow a spine. If put against western TV characters (GoT, Breaking Bad) he's also a total cupcake. Rape, sexual violence, slavery, etc. are elements of just about any show with a medieval technology setting and I don't even know if Japanese creators give a shit that these are delicate subjects in our evolved woke Western culture... even so having skimmed over the LN there's nothing that controversial here by anime standards and certainly not by what we watch on TV in the US. There are lots of isekai shows that are set in a happier worlds and have cleaner MCs. This one doesn't, but that's not even what bothers me about the show... summon four rando assholes who can't even get along, give them godlike powers, and then expect them to save your world? Really? Even in Konosuba that kind of premise would have been laughed at. |
| The growing relationship between these two characters seems like an important part of the story yet they rushed it so much. It's a shame. |
| Ah, the slave girl and her past made me sad, good character development this episode! The food looks good even tho Naofumi says its bland xD |
| How long has that balloon been chomping on him? He might as well always keep one of those hidden for good measure. Oooh! I love games where the pets get experience too! Aww, poor little Raphtalia had to go through a lot. It's rather convenient that that two-headed dog was in the mine, but oh well. At least Raphtalia knows that she can't lose the one person who found her and is caring for her. Lol, he really is Captain Japan! Captain Japan gets Rocketaphtalia Raccoon early on. He's on his way to assembling the team! |
TarotistJan 16, 2019 11:41 PM
BadAshley said: ... summon four rando assholes who can't even get along, give them godlike powers, and then expect them to save your world? Really? The story elaborates more on that later. Read spoiler if you really have a burning desire to know some details. |
SuccHunter said: BadAshley said: ... summon four rando assholes who can't even get along, give them godlike powers, and then expect them to save your world? Really? The story elaborates more on that later. Read spoiler if you really have a burning desire to know some details. Yeah, that context does explain things. I figured it was something like that when they touched on the subject of four countries and four hourglasses (implying mutual responsibility) also that the shield hero is a friend of the demis (ep 2). Kinda feel like these important plot points would be easier to pick up on if I had read more of the books before watching... at least they try to imply it more than other shows that expect you to have read the source material. |
| Best anime of this season. This episode was great 9/10 |
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AForgottenSoul said: You do know that characters grow this episode 2 was only like 2 chapters.. Your a fan of the LN/Manga if you dont like this adaptation you can not watch it and give it a rating 1 like a salty cuck. Its following the LN quite well. You are so ignorant its not even fun. Episode 1 was covering chapters 1-8 from ranobe in 40 minutes. Episode 2 - 8-16. In 20 mins. So why exactly we couldn't have episode 2-3 covering Raph development and finish Volume 1 (First Wave and Duel with retarded Chad) in 5-6? Not rushed, huh? I dont care how it was in the manga, manga is like 50% of source material. Also, LUL at guys who translated Erste Shield as Air Strike Shield. |
| The opinions of people with shit taste, such as yourself, may differ of course. |
| This episode was a hell of a lot better than last weeks. I was real close to dropping, but after this episode I’m looking forward to see what Racoon Girl does next. |
nightcrawlercyp said: seraphimxd said: no, you just guilt yourselves over what your ancestors did. until recently everyone had slaves. And not all slavery was chattel slavery. And if you want to know how horrific slavery can be let's consider black slave owner who ate the slaves they owned once they could not use them anymore or muslim slave owners that castrated their male slaves. Sometimes you could get away with your balls but only if you were not a black slave. All black slaves got castrated by the muslim. I can see a lot of people getting upset about the controversial slave concept of this show, but you have to know here in the US it's a touchy subject because of the history we have with "slaves." However, overseas in Japan, it's probably not something as contentious. So please watch this anime with an open mind and know the cultural difference between where you're from and where this show originated from. Whoa whoa whoa, get outta here with that understanding of history |
| This episode seems fast paced but still looking forward on the next episode !💘💘 |
| The OP is kinda good. |
LuciferIAm said: If I do not speak the truth the stones will.nightcrawlercyp said: no, you just guilt yourselves over what your ancestors did. until recently everyone had slaves. And not all slavery was chattel slavery. And if you want to know how horrific slavery can be let's consider black slave owner who ate the slaves they owned once they could not use them anymore or muslim slave owners that castrated their male slaves. Sometimes you could get away with your balls but only if you were not a black slave. All black slaves got castrated by the muslim. Whoa whoa whoa, get outta here with that understanding of history 1. everyone had slaves until about 100 years ago 2. there are types of slavery except chattel slavery, i.e. debt slavery, wage slavery, scrip slavery, land attached slavery, sex slavery. And I believe debt slavery is the worst because you hope that you will make enough to pay your debt and escape but many times the system is rigged against you 3. black slaves where bough in america from black slave owners from africa 4. Muslims were the biggest slave owners in history and they had all types of slaves. What is interesting in arabic the word for black person also means slave 5. europeans freed their slaves freely and the former slaves live much better lives they would have lived in Africa as free men. Even as slaves they lived better lives. 6. just because some behavior is morally wrong does not mean it cannot be analyzed |
| It's been a while since I was hooked to watch a show every week. Good job so far. Oh, and I REALLY like the OP. |
| Raphtalia has an adult form? Why is everyone spoiling? |
| Poor Raphtalia. She was once part of a happy family with her parents, but sadly, she lost them both due to the wave of catastrophe. Seeing her in the condition she is when Naofumi chose her to become his slave was depressing. Thankfully, Naofumi is a good person at heart and although his personality has still maintained that harsh bluntness after being falsely accused of rape in the last episode, he does his best to train up Raphtalia, as well as giving her food, drink, medicine and he also makes sure he's always there to comfort her when she's having her nightmares while asleep. Their improving trust between them was put to the test in the cave where they encountered a two-headed dog beast, almost similar to the one that killed Raphtalia's parents. Seeing her muster up the courage to slay the beast while Naofumi had it distracted was really awesome. =) The ED animation was good and the same goes for the song, too. Overall, I prefer the OP animation/song combo more. YKSY said: Raphtalia has an adult form? Why is everyone spoiling? Sorry for being the one to say this, but her 'Adult' form appears on the key visual for this anime, show on the main page for the show on MAL, as well as the OP animation. It does make it obvious that she has this form and this is coming from an anime-only myself. =) |
| I think this might be my new top fav series. Never thought I'd like an isekai anime after seeing re0. I have the mangarock app installed and imagine my surprise when this manga is ranked number 1 lol. I hope this series will continue get better and better. I like surprises. |
| Hears an unpopular opinion, I hate "Demi-humans" in Anime, namely, the horse anime, the snake anime and etc. But maybe my opinion will gradually change. We'll see about that. The episode is good, I get to see some of Raphtalia's past, why she is in her current state and etc. I get why Naofumi treats her that way and also doesn't hold back when trying to show her the reality of their world. On another note, the OP is good but I like the ED song better, it fits the ED animation well, the song is emotional and melancholic. |
| “What do you do when there is an evil you cannot defeat by just means? Do you stain your hands with evil to destroy evil? Or do you remain steadfastly just and righteous even if it means surrendering to evil?” ― Lelouch Vi Britannia |
| loved it fun fun anime keep it up |
| Raphtalia is adorable. |
Meta_Yoshi said: Poor Raphtalia. She was once part of a happy family with her parents, but sadly, she lost them both due to the wave of catastrophe. Seeing her in the condition she is when Naofumi chose her to become his slave was depressing. Thankfully, Naofumi is a good person at heart and although his personality has still maintained that harsh bluntness after being falsely accused of rape in the last episode, he does his best to train up Raphtalia, as well as giving her food, drink, medicine and he also makes sure he's always there to comfort her when she's having her nightmares while asleep. Their improving trust between them was put to the test in the cave where they encountered a two-headed dog beast, almost similar to the one that killed Raphtalia's parents. Seeing her muster up the courage to slay the beast while Naofumi had it distracted was really awesome. =) The ED animation was good and the same goes for the song, too. Overall, I prefer the OP animation/song combo more. YKSY said: Raphtalia has an adult form? Why is everyone spoiling? Sorry for being the one to say this, but her 'Adult' form appears on the key visual for this anime, show on the main page for the show on MAL, as well as the OP animation. It does make it obvious that she has this form and this is coming from an anime-only myself. =) On one hand I'm glad that there is no more cute moe loli fanservice but on the other hand, this is an excuse for little Raphtalia to be part of the harem huh? |
| Judging by the manga, the most interesting part is over. Here comes the cop out time skip that isn't a time skip which turns things much more "standard". Well, at least it should be still pretty good till stupid bird comes... Putting that aside, it felt really shushed. There was no time to develop any of the characters or relations between them. Dynamic between Shield Hero and tanuki girl could be interesting if explored but they completely skimmed over it. It feels like just another "poor, cute girl taken in by a coldhearted-on-the-surface guy". I just hope we will see enough MC being a dick to everyone else. |
Ii tenki desu ne... |
| They trying so hard to skip all the unnecessary training and fighting at the beginning but it still feels awkward with the fast pacing of the story. The novel took so long before the first wave hits and it seems the anime is already reaching it soon. |
Talcon said: wakka9ca said: This episode was pretty disturbing but this is actually by design. Unfortunately a lot of viewers seems to be missing the point on how messed up this relationship is so far. It would be tolerable if the show itself acknowledged that the relationship was disgusting. The cherry on top was in the ED, the show had the audacity to show a smiling still image of the slave girl cuddling next to her abuser. How dare they? This is beyond the pale. I cannot and will not tolerate this tone deftness. Spotted the snowflake. "Her abuser". You've just proven you didn't even watch this episode |
Gerver said: AForgottenSoul said: You do know that characters grow this episode 2 was only like 2 chapters.. Your a fan of the LN/Manga if you dont like this adaptation you can not watch it and give it a rating 1 like a salty cuck. Its following the LN quite well. You are so ignorant its not even fun. Episode 1 was covering chapters 1-8 from ranobe in 40 minutes. Episode 2 - 8-16. In 20 mins. So why exactly we couldn't have episode 2-3 covering Raph development and finish Volume 1 (First Wave and Duel with retarded Chad) in 5-6? Not rushed, huh? I dont care how it was in the manga, manga is like 50% of source material. Also, LUL at guys who translated Erste Shield as Air Strike Shield. It is following the manga more closely though so.. |
| Very good episode, not like first but ok. I liked Raphtalia. I hope this anime doesn't lose quality as it moves. |
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