What did you think of this episode?
5Loved it!
41.8%
64
4Liked it!
30.7%
47
3It was OK
19.0%
29
2Disliked it
6.5%
10
1Hated it
2.0%
3
Average 4.0
153 votes
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| THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE. ---------------------------------------- Sometimes Anthy knows a surprising amount. |
| Interesting episode, though I can't help thinking that they're fishing for random people now. I bet the Black Rose masterminds are feeling the same way... |
| Chuu-chuu was as funny as always. |
| More of Touga's chest ~___~ |
| 頭脳は子供、見た目は大人！ ƪ(˘⌣˘)ʃ |
| I don't know, to me this sort of could possibly reflect the relationship between Utena and Anthy. Think about it, earlier in the episode Akio told Anthy to stay friends with Utena now what if you can apply what Anthy says at the end of the episode to her relationship with Utena? What if she's only tolerating Utena BECAUSE of her brother? I'm not sure if that's the case but from what I've seen from this series so far I doubt this is particularly random. I do agree that the series formula is sort of getting redundant though. |
| "Yes, I have been deprived of emotion. But not completely. Whoever did it, botched the job." - Geralt of Rivia |
| It is getting repetitive, but each of the stories are really interesting. I like the huge amount of character study (similar to Penguindrum which is airing now). |
| wow the irony in what Anthy said to Utena. So, Utena has defeated the whole student counsel (effectively twice now), So what's next ( I have a feeling this Akio guy is about to make his move)? |
| I haven't lost any faith in this series, however so many things about it are very repetitive... not nice lol |
| What does Utena have to do with this episode? |
| Even when I was in crowd, I was always alone |
| I'm not sure how I feel about this episode. A lot of things in this one just felt like copouts. |
| This is getting old about now. Really need to get a change of plot formula, or get down to business with the villain here, or something. Anything, really. They are digging at the bottom of the bag for characters to throw in this now, and they've finally reached the characters I just don't care about now. |
| I hope all these recent episodes will be vital later in the series. I mean, I believe it will, this series seems like it will tie minute details together. |
| I don't get why Aiko would fight Utena in the first place, did the evil guys tell her to do it so she would get the power to revolutionize the world? And just what exactly is that? I just don't get why she would duel with Utena and not challenge Nanami at all. Also I don't understand how Nanami can love Touga so freaking much, maybe it's because she doesn't have any other 'friends' or anyone else has ever been close to her than him. |
| if the anime is going to end like the manga, I'm so giving this series a 3 haven't watched anything as repetitive and annoying in a long time and regarding this episode - I don't see the point in Utena having to fight her, should have rather been the other girl. preview for next episode actually looks nice, seems like its focusing on advancing the main plot... or something, hopefully |
Vanessa-Nov 18, 2013 7:52 AM
| And Nanami overreacts again... seriously she can't just marry her brother. -_- |
| if I was Utena I would already get sick of getting those letters in the locker to fight |
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| Oh shit, it's really getting intense now. Not really though. 4/5 |
| Keiko's situation didn't even get any better, I like how this anime doesn't sugarcoat the conclusions with happy endings for some characters. Still, I find it hilarious that Touga hasn't said a word since Episode 12. |
| Would would of though that we would get an episode focusing on Nanami's lackeys, well at least one of them. Seeing the state that Touga's in makes me a happy camper :) |
| We're all entitled to our opinions of course but I strongly disagree with those who think the Black Rose Arc is repetitive. Well it is repetitive but I disagree that it is redundant. As others have pointed out it's the emphasis on minor characters that really makes this arc interesting and even if some are stronger than others with the possible exception of the very first one Akio's fiancee I think they've done a good job of telling a compelling story about jealousy and hatred with each minor character we've seen spotlighted. Also yes it is easy to write off how it reuses the exact same scenes practically to show their indoctrination and departure from the Black Rose Society but I guess I don't mind because to me they're REALLY effective and kind of got more powerful with repetition. They're intense (the characters confessions/ rants always get my hair on end and this was no exception) and they're pretty damn creepy. I'm a big fan of this arc even if I'll admit this episode didn't quite live up to the last one. Really excited for the conclusion. Oh yeah and lol at Anthy explaining who each of Nanami's lackeys are at the end. |
Vanessa said: if the anime is going to end like the manga, I'm so giving this series a 3 haven't watched anything as repetitive and annoying in a long time and regarding this episode - I don't see the point in Utena having to fight her, should have rather been the other girl. preview for next episode actually looks nice, seems like its focusing on advancing the main plot... or something, hopefully I laughed after I read this and saw you have Utena on your favorites. LOOOOL The show must skyrocket later. |
| Maybe it's just me, but I swear the art is different in this episode. The eyes, the animations, they look different. I'm probably imagining it lol Same formula as ever, but for some reason I enjoyed this episode a bit more than others in the black rose arc. |
hysterical_ said: I still don't get why the duelist slept in the same position as the red man printed on the floor. I don't think it was a coincidence when I saw the same thing happened in one of the previous duel. Actually that has been going on for a while to the other challengers. I think those silhouettes refer to the 100 duelists that died and had their rings taken from them by the Black Rose group. Maybe it also has to do with a part of their negative self dying? Interesting how Anthy had an umbrella with her to the duel. I wonder what the significance of that is. |
| At first I thought this arc was meh, but, again, my opinion has turned around since the Jury episode in it. It looks like the arc may be taking a different direction as of the next episode since all of the student council's swords have been defeated again. I don't have much to add this time around, but there are lots of interesting thoughts floating around in this episode discussion, especially @Ston3_FreeN7's. |
TripleSRankJun 7, 2017 5:14 PM
| Does Nanami not realize the only reason she has any friends is that they want to bang her brother? Going back to Nanami in the end makes no sense...she's the parasite! |
| "No, son, you may not have your body pillow at the dinner table!" |
| Even Keiko on battle mode got confused for a second who is actually bad on this matter, Anthy or Nanami :P I wonder will there be something for rest of 2 girls? |
GaichiOct 30, 2017 3:22 PM
"A half moon, it has a dark half and a bright half, just like me…", Yuno Gasai |
| Totally meh. But i love seeing Nanami all the time so can't complain. Touga was a bit of a puppet in this episode, not talking at all basically. |
Vzla-IT |
| Background character gets developement, no complaints here. Wow, I'd never realized Nanami was such a bad person. |
| Around the gif~ "It's a big mistake to think you're the only one who can turn into a car" - Shiori Takatsuki |
| I hope Touga never recovers, so Nanami can continue her reign of terror while leading the student council with comic ineptitude the rest of the show. As an aside, I love girls in uniform, and I love 19th century uniforms, so this show is hitting some of my more niche boxes :D |
| I liked how Touga didn't have any voiced lines in this episode, we didn't even get a glimpse of his face. Similar thing with the party - they organised one, most of main characters went there, and we even saw them talking and spending time together - and yet we don't really know what happened there... Interesting. Good episode, but I'd really like to come back to main characters soon, pretty please! |
| It seemed less like love and more like an intense schoolgirl crush and/or infatuation to me. Makes sense given Keiko's age and how much she has always put Touga up on a pedestal. |
| *Mourning the disappointment of The Promised Neverland season 2.* |
| It's interesting how this is the only time we don't see the face of the dead student in the coffin - it's burned instantly |
| I love the idea of giving some quality screentime for support characters however the whole arc is very repetitive. |
| I see some people in this thread complaining about Keiko dueling against Utena rather than Nanami. Uhhh, literally none of the previous Black Rose Duelists have had any business going after Utena. They've all been manipulated into thinking that they need to kill the Rose Bride and gain the power to revolutionize the world (whatever that is) in order to solve their problems. To achieve that, they must go through Utena, who is the one standing in their way; it's not personal. |
| Good to see Nanami's crew get some spotlight and all. Still, Keiko stealing Touga's sword and all. I do like her Dark Uniform and all. |
| Every minor character somewhat related to main characters is being fleshed out insanely well , but the thing is this repetitiveness hurts the main storyline , even though I have no problems with these episodes , pacing is completely different and it turned from early NGE to late NGE episode where they spend entire episode on self-analysis and stuff like that.It's just so much harder to watch it right now. |
| I hate everyone equally |
| Maybe I'm more annoyed with the fact they just use enchanted people just to get swords from Student Council members (who all already lost in duels vs Utena) and fight Utena , instead of doing something more... Well , they are out of Student Council members now , what's next? Round 2? |
| I hate everyone equally |
| I'm so done with this arc but it seems there will finally be some actual plot progression next episode. But seriously, who cares about Nanami's mindless minions? Not to mention that after all that happened this episode, Keiko still remained as one-dimensional as when she was first introduced. |
| Another boring fight, at this point the only thing to look forward to in the fights is the music. Each fight feels the exact same, feels lazy. Nanami becomes more unlikeable each episode, and what even was the point of this episode if at the end Keiko went back to being her lackey?? |
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