Property talk:P898
Latest comment: 1 year ago by Robertsilen in topic How to mark dialect region?
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IPA transcription
transcription in the International Phonetic Alphabet
transcription in the International Phonetic Alphabet
| Description | Spelling in the International Phonetic Alphabet, International Phonetic Alphabet (Q21204). See m:Wikidata/Notes/Future#Wiktionary. | ||||||||||||
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| Represents | International Phonetic Alphabet (Q21204) | ||||||||||||
| Data type | String | ||||||||||||
| Domain | any item (note: this should be moved to the property statements) | ||||||||||||
| Allowed values | According to this template:
many special characters and diacritics
According to statements in the property:
When possible, data should only be stored as statements^(\[|\/)[iyɨʉɯuɪʏʊeøɘɵɤoəɛœɜɞʌɔæɐaɶɑɒ mɱnɳɲŋɴʘǀǃǂǁpbtdʈɖcɟkɡqɢʡʔɓɗʄɠʛɸβfvθðszʃʒʂʐçʝxɣχʁħʕʜʢhɦʼʋɹɻjɰɺɫʙrʀяʍwɥⱱɾɽɕʑɧɬɮꞎlɭʎʰⁿˡëäʷʲˠˁãẽĩõũỹ áéíóúýàèìòùỳāēīōūȳâêîôûŷǎěǐǒǔőűȁȅȉȍȕɚɝʦʣʧʤʨʥ\x{0300}-\x{0304}\x{0306}\x{0308}\x{030B}\x{030C}\x{030F}\x{0318}-\x{031A}\x{031C}-\x{0320}\x{0324}\x{0325}\x{0329}\x{032A}\x{032C}\x{032F}\x{0330}\x{0334}\x{0339}-\x{033D}\x{035C}\x{0361}ˈˌːˑ.|‖↗↘˧˦˨˥˩ꜛꜜ]+(\]|\/)$ | ||||||||||||
| Example | Apache (Q102090) → əˈpætʃiː tomato (Q20638126) → toˈmate | ||||||||||||
| Tracking: usage | Category:Pages using Wikidata property P898 (Q118210301) | ||||||||||||
| See also | pronunciation audio (P443), X-SAMPA code (P2859), IPA Braille (P4225), UPA transcription (P6798) | ||||||||||||
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| Proposal discussion | Proposal discussion | ||||||||||||
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[create Create a translatable help page (preferably in English) for this property to be included here]
Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P898#Format, SPARQL
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P898#Format, SPARQL
Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P898#Format, SPARQL
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P898#Format, SPARQL
Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P898#Format, SPARQL
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P898#Format, SPARQL
Allowed entity types are Wikibase form (Q54285143), Wikibase item (Q29934200), Wikibase MediaInfo (Q59712033): the property may only be used on a certain entity type (Help)
Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303). List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P898#Entity types
Scope is as main value (Q54828448), as qualifier (Q54828449): the property must be used by specified way only (Help)
Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303). List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P898#Scope, SPARQL
Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P898#Format, SPARQL
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P898#Format, SPARQL
Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P898#Format, SPARQL
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P898#Format, SPARQL
Qualifiers “language of work or name (P407), pronunciation variety (P5237), applies to name of subject (P5168)”: this property should be used only with the listed qualifiers. (Help)
Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303). List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P898#allowed qualifiers, SPARQL
Qualifiers “pronunciation variety (P5237)”: this property should be used only with the listed qualifiers. (Help)
Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303). List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P898#allowed qualifiers, SPARQL
Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P898#Format, SPARQL
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P898#Format, SPARQL
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This property is being used by:
Please notify projects that use this property before big changes (renaming, deletion, merge with another property, etc.) |
Format: value must be formatted using this pattern (PCRE syntax).
[iyɨʉɯuɪʏʊeøɘɵɤoəɛœɜɞʌɔæɐaɶɑɒ mɱnɳɲŋɴʘǀǃǂǁpbtdʈɖcɟkɡqɢʡʔɓɗʄɠʛɸβfvθðszʃʒʂʐçʝxɣχʁħʕʜʢhɦʼʋɹɻjɰɺɫʙrʀяʍwɥⱱɾɽɕʑɧɬɮꞎlɭʎ ʰⁿˡëäʷʲˠˁ ãẽĩõũỹ áéíóúý àèìòùỳ āēīōūȳ âêîôûŷ ǎěǐǒǔ őű ȁȅȉȍȕ ɚɝ ʦʣʧʤʨʥ \x{0300}-\x{0304}\x{0306}\x{0308}\x{030B}\x{030C}\x{030F}\x{0318}-\x{031A}\x{031C}-\x{0320}\x{0324}\x{0325}\x{0329}\x{032A}\x{032C}\x{032F}\x{0330}\x{0334}\x{0339}-\x{033D}\x{035C}\x{0361} ˈˌːˑ.|‖↗↘˧˦˨˥˩ꜛꜜ]+
Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303). [iyɨʉɯuɪʏʊeøɘɵɤoəɛœɜɞʌɔæɐaɶɑɒ mɱnɳɲŋɴʘǀǃǂǁpbtdʈɖcɟkɡqɢʡʔɓɗʄɠʛɸβfvθðszʃʒʂʐçʝxɣχʁħʕʜʢhɦʼʋɹɻjɰɺɫʙrʀяʍwɥⱱɾɽɕʑɧɬɮꞎlɭʎ ʰⁿˡëäʷʲˠˁ ãẽĩõũỹ áéíóúý àèìòùỳ āēīōūȳ âêîôûŷ ǎěǐǒǔ őű ȁȅȉȍȕ ɚɝ ʦʣʧʤʨʥ \x{0300}-\x{0304}\x{0306}\x{0308}\x{030B}\x{030C}\x{030F}\x{0318}-\x{031A}\x{031C}-\x{0320}\x{0324}\x{0325}\x{0329}\x{032A}\x{032C}\x{032F}\x{0330}\x{0334}\x{0339}-\x{033D}\x{035C}\x{0361} ˈˌːˑ.|‖↗↘˧˦˨˥˩ꜛꜜ]+
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P898#Format, SPARQL
Monolingual?
editWhat's the preferred way to indicate the language in which a given pronunciation is used? Should we use the monolingual string datatype with built-in language codes? --- Jura 12:30, 7 February 2015 (UTC)
- I proposed converting this at Wikidata:Properties for deletion. --- Jura 08:03, 16 February 2015 (UTC)
- May be to use it as qualifier to some monolingual value? --Infovarius (talk) 19:06, 28 October 2015 (UTC)
Constraint
editLanguage as a qualifier - not necessary for Lexemes. Shall we delete the constraint? --Infovarius (talk) 13:00, 24 May 2018 (UTC)
Support @Infovarius: --Loominade (talk) 11:40, 14 September 2018 (UTC)
- It would be good to limit the constraint scope to items, not lexemes. @Lucas Werkmeister (WMDE), Ivan A. Krestinin: how could we do that? --- Jura 11:26, 23 September 2018 (UTC)
- @Jura1: that’s not currently possible as far as I’m aware, but it might be useful to add. It looks like we’re returning to the idea of additional kinds of constraint scopes, which came up in Wikidata:Property proposal/constraint scope already. The current constraint scope (P4680) limits the scope according to the context type, whereas this new feature would limit the scope according to the entity type. --Lucas Werkmeister (WMDE) (talk) 09:28, 24 September 2018 (UTC)
Include delimiters?
editshould delimiters be included into the value? [ˈɛːɐ̯poːɐ̯t] or ˈɛːɐ̯poːɐ̯t (or even /ˈɛə.pɔːt/ for that matter). Right now it seems like no one cares --Shisma (talk) 14:37, 16 September 2018 (UTC)
- I was wondering about that just this week. It should be simple to add or remove them. Is there a difference between the various delimiters? --- Jura 14:52, 16 September 2018 (UTC)
- [] indicates a phonetic (detailed) transcription, while // indicates a phonemic (with only contrasting sounds) transcription. A transcription that has neither is ambiguous and should be avoided. It should be possible to provide both side by side, like on gronostaj (L21318). —Rua (mew) 15:04, 16 September 2018 (UTC)
- Agree, how about two separate Properties? IPA Phonetic Description and IPA Phonemic Description--Shisma (talk) 06:18, 17 September 2018 (UTC)
- Maybe a note in the (English) description could help. What with the other possible formats? --- Jura 11:23, 23 September 2018 (UTC)
- This is totally wrong! Brackets should be excluded and replaced by qualifier phonemic transcription (Q16617555) or phonetic transcription (Q743569). Don Rumata 15:09, 20 November 2018 (UTC)
- [] indicates a phonetic (detailed) transcription, while // indicates a phonemic (with only contrasting sounds) transcription. A transcription that has neither is ambiguous and should be avoided. It should be possible to provide both side by side, like on gronostaj (L21318). —Rua (mew) 15:04, 16 September 2018 (UTC)
- When querying, one should probably make use of some normalized form. How could that work? --- Jura 11:23, 23 September 2018 (UTC)
- I prefer values with [ ] / /. The linguistic standard is to use them. They can be easy distinguished with STRSTARTS function in queries. KaMan (talk) 07:05, 21 November 2018 (UTC)
How to mark dialect region?
editIf an IPA is a description of a pronunciation in a regional dialect, how should the region be marked? I tried adding location (P276) to an IPA but this triggers an exclamation mark. See Lexeme:L1149927#F1. Robert (talk) 07:17, 19 September 2023 (UTC)
- I found two Lexemes with each having two IPAs with different language of work or name (P407): German Eigen L344376 (German and Austrian German) and English Talk (L379) American and British English). The query I used. So presumably I should create wikidata objects for dialects and use those? Robert (talk) 08:30, 19 September 2023 (UTC)
- All options considered, I ended up using pronunciation variety (P5237) to mark geographical areas for dialects' IPA transcription (P898). Robert (talk) 11:47, 28 November 2023 (UTC)