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Latest comment: 4 years ago by VIGNERON in topic http://cths.fr/hi/personne.php

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CTHS person ID
identifier for a person in the directory of French learned societies
Applicable "stated in" valueannuaire prosopographique: la France savante (Q55740543)
Has qualitynumeric identifier (Q93868746)
Data typeExternal identifier
Domainperson (note: this should be moved to the property statements)
Allowed values\d+
ExampleCharles Maurras (Q3048)101743
Jacques Voelckel (Q94766673)122666
Sourcehttp://cths.fr/an/selec.php?sc=pr
Formatter URLhttps://cths.fr/an/savant.php?id=$1
Tracking: usageCategory:Pages using Wikidata property P2383 (Q53745919)
Related to country  France (Q142) (See 655 others)
See alsoCTHS society ID (P1961)
Lists
Proposal discussionProposal discussion
Current uses
Total20,925
Main statement12,85061.4% of uses
Qualifier2<0.1% of uses
Reference8,07338.6% of uses
Search for values
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Single value: this property generally contains a single value. (Help)
Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303). Known exceptions: Pierre Marie de Grave (Q3386142), Jules de Lahondès (Q21715540)
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P2383#Single value, SPARQL
Distinct values: this property likely contains a value that is different from all other items. (Help)
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P2383#Unique value, hourly updated report, SPARQL (every item), SPARQL (by value)
Item “instance of (P31): human (Q5): Items with this property should also have “instance of (P31): human (Q5)”. (Help)
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P2383#Item P31, hourly updated report, search, SPARQL
Format “\d+: value must be formatted using this pattern (PCRE syntax). (Help)
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P2383#Format, hourly updated report, SPARQL
Item “sex or gender (P21): Items with this property should also have “sex or gender (P21)”. (Help)
Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P2383#Item P21, search, SPARQL
Item “country of citizenship (P27): Items with this property should also have “country of citizenship (P27)”. (Help)
Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P2383#Item P27, search, SPARQL
Item “date of birth (P569): Items with this property should also have “date of birth (P569)”. (Help)
Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P2383#Item P569, SPARQL
Allowed entity types are Wikibase item (Q29934200): the property may only be used on a certain entity type (Help)
Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P2383#Entity types
Scope is as main value (Q54828448), as reference (Q54828450): the property must be used by specified way only (Help)
Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P2383#Scope, SPARQL
Label required in languages: fr: Entities using this property should have labels in one of the following languages: fr (Help)
Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P2383#Label in 'fr' language, search, SPARQL

http://cths.fr/hi/personne.php

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Bonjour, l'URL associée à cette propriété est de la forme « http://cths.fr/hi/savants.php?id=$1 ». Or il existe aussi le format « http://cths.fr/hi/personne.php?id=$1 » qui est aussi utilisé pour des personnes. Par exemple Sophie Krausz (Q83295902) a l'identifiant 976 alors que l'URL « savant » utilisant ce numéro correspond à Alexandre Barbié du Bocage (Q7888801). Devrions-nous créer une nouvelle propriété. Et si oui, avec quel nom ? Pamputt (talk) 10:21, 18 May 2020 (UTC)Reply

@Pamputt: bonne question. Pour moi ce n'est pas tant une question de format de l'URL mais plutôt de base de données. Est-ce une ou deux bases de données distinctes ? Plus d'informations me semble nécessaire, on voit que le même numéro correspond à deux personnes mais existe-t-il le cas inverse ? ie. une personne avec deux numéros pour chaque URL/base ?
PS: une proposition a d'ores et déjà été faite : Wikidata:Property proposal/CTHS author ID (par une adresse IP savoyarde, de façon un peu prématurée et avec quasiment aucun justification, là aussi il faudrait donner plus d'informations).
Cdlt, VIGNERON (talk) 10:35, 18 May 2020 (UTC)Reply
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