masterlj, if you actually read the thread you would see that people are asking you who the multiaccounters are

I never even thought about sniffing poker site traffic before because it never crossed my mind a site WOULDNT use SSL.

XOR LOL

Here's a pic of UB security:



PRETTY SOLID IMO

I just don't understand, coming from a programming background, why they wouldn't implement SSL encryption. It amazes me the site still operates, and hasn't turned into a Russian hacker bomb zone, so there must be some security.... or am I being optimistic?

so when is someone going to find out who xblink is?

just no,
are people living in NY supporting a bunch of bearded ignorant hatemongers by living in NY?
are people playing at ub supporting a lying bunch of corrupt incompetent douchebags by playing on their site?

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UB didn't even out the superusers. No chance of this.

Most likely someone made the decision not too to save money on infrastructure costs. It costs more to implement SSL in terms of CPU needs.

You are likely just optimistic...

Is it possible to get confirmation here when they do implement SSL and it's "safe" (I use that word lightly obv) to sign-in/play on the network again..? (Maybe I'm being optimistic in assuming they'll be dealing with the issue..)

Should be about a week or so IF they deal with this competently.

MasterLJ- who are the multiaccounters, how do you mention this but not out anyone?

Also, does anyone remember echoes17 from like, late 2008? Him and xblink are obviously the two most likely to be involved in any sort of post-scandal dishonest play.

Are the games really that good?
The site is aids juice ffs!

You may get your chance yet: http://www.pokertableratings.com/blo...pdate-may-7th/

Could be a decent opportunity to get more information on accounts like xblink that people are questioning the fair play of.

fyp

This. Also, for the sake of discussion, what does PTR get out of this?

jesus, this is insane.

i also sorta understand what master lj means when he expresses a lack of sympathy

the way i see it, when the UB/AP scandal broke, alot of pro's stopped playing there, which obviously makes the games way juicier, so some pro's are going to play there for the softer games, and are taking a calculated risk. the risk being they are going to get ****ed over by the incompetence/shadiness of the site.

i do sympathise with people who get scammed, but i understand peoples POV who don't. and its a million miles from saying people living in NY deserve getting bombed etc.

a more accurate analogy would be something like people mining gold in an unstable mineshaft (assuming miners actually get 100% of the gold they mine), and the mineshaft collapsing and killing them.


btw. link to the xblink thread?

really? seems pretty obv to me.

PTR is in the business of collecting hand history. In order to do that ,they probably somehow observe table and gather HHs. Doing it in a basic simple way is probably somewhat ineffective and resource intensive. In order to improve on their process, it makes perfect sense for them to look at the communication between their host machine and UB's server. While doing so, it was likely trivial to find out that communication wasn't encrypted. After that, it's very simple reverse engineering.

I suspect they were surprised by what they found. Obviously, this is just speculation, but it makes sense. FYI, there is absolutely nothing wrong with PTR's action in this matter.

I haven't read through the entirety of this thread, but I know XBLINK's name has come up. He was obviously terrible and somehow ran $10 into like 1.5 million. Not only that, but he did it in like 2 weeks and against the best players out there. I lost somewhere in the $50,000 range to him and was wondering if anyone is trying to do anything about this or investigate more into this. If any mods or other HSNL players are trying to get together to figure this out, please get in touch with me. Thanks

has nobody considered how much free press UB gets every time there's one of these scandals?

who deposits there after reading this? you would have to be so dumb.