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== July 2024 ==
Hi ParvatPrakash, kindly do not revert my changes at the Mahavira Wiki Page beacuse of your personal reasons that you've been struggling through last few months. The old image used is a very well known image of Mahavir Swami. If I wanted I could also have removed another Shwetambar tradition image from the page but I am a secular Jain scholar from Canada. Just refining Jainism for people here. Kindly do not spread sectarian supremerism. Peace. ([[User talk:Dennis Dijkstra#top|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Dennis Dijkstra|contribs]]) 07:22, 15 July 2024 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
:Any reverts are because of loss of information produced by your edits. Images are unimportant as long as they indicate the same person. However, deleting other information that you don't believe in is not acceptable. I'll keep your image as you say, but deleting any other information is vandalism. See [[Wikipedia:Vandalism]] [[User:ParvatPrakash|ParvatPrakash]] ([[User talk:ParvatPrakash#top|talk]]) 08:05, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
::{{u|ParvatPrakash}}, as described in bold text by the introduction of the policy you've linked to, accusations of vandalism (malicious / intentional damage to the encyclopedia) are probably wrong here. [[User:ToBeFree|~ ToBeFree]] ([[User talk:ToBeFree|talk]]) 08:53, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
:::Yes, I could have been wrong. Just noticed the details. However, [[User:Dennis Dijkstra]] deleted details about the spouse and children of [[Mahavira]]. These changes were without references. They seemed to be vandalising edits to me. So, to not engage in edit war with the user, I thought to keep the image same as suggested by them. However, unexplained deletion of information seemed unnecessary to me. I could very well be wrong here though. [[User:ParvatPrakash|ParvatPrakash]] ([[User talk:ParvatPrakash#top|talk]]) 08:59, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
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Hi {{u|ParvatPrakash}}, the correct place for such a discussion is [[Talk:Rishabhanatha|the article's talk page]], and you can still edit that page. Please create a new section there explaining your preference. You can then use {{tl|Please see}} at [[User talk:Be Jain]] to invite {{u|Be Jain}} to the discussion. I'd be surprised if this doesn't result in discussion, but if it really doesn't and you are really ignored, see [[WP:DISCFAIL]] for a helpful essay describing a way to proceed. [[User:ToBeFree|~ ToBeFree]] ([[User talk:ToBeFree|talk]]) 05:53, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
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::Thank you so much. I didn't know about this policy. Still learning as I go. I'll keep in mind to discuss difference on the article's talk page instead of the user's. I think I just swayed cause I was warning them for the other disruptive edits they were making. Thanks again. [[User:ParvatPrakash|ParvatPrakash]] ([[User talk:ParvatPrakash#top|talk]]) 06:16, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
:::All good, no worries. Thank you very much for starting the discussion at [[Talk:Rishabhanatha#Image_of_the_subject]]; this is a very good start. Citing guideline sections, looks perfect to me. Of course, there may be disagreement about whether the guideline actually supports your image choice, and if you remain in disagreement, you may need a [[WP:3O|third opinion]] or a [[WP:RfC|RfC]]. But that's not something to be done at the start, that's just an option one should keep in mind for now. [[User:ToBeFree|~ ToBeFree]] ([[User talk:ToBeFree|talk]]) 06:27, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
== September 2024 ==
[[Image:Information.svg|25px|alt=|link=]] Hello, I'm [[User:Cassiopeia|Cassiopeia]]. I noticed that you made a change to an article, [[:Hinduism and Jainism]], but you didn't provide a source. I’ve removed it for now, but if you’d like to [[Wikipedia:Citing sources|include a citation]] to a reliable source and re-add it, please do so! If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you can leave me a message on [[User talk:Cassiopeia|my talk page]]. Thanks. <!-- Template:Huggle/warn-unsor-1 --><!-- Template:uw-unsourced1 --> [[User:Cassiopeia|<b style="font-family:Georgia;font-size:105%;color:#FF8000"> Cassiopeia</b>]] <span style="border-radius:8em;padding:2px 5px;background:#0151D2;font-size:75%">[[User talk:Cassiopeia|<span style="color:#FFF">'''talk'''</span>]]</span> 09:31, 11 September 2024 (UTC)
:Hi, yes I did not provide a source because it was already present in the footnote to the section. It was also present in the reference at the end of the sentence I added. [[User:ParvatPrakash|ParvatPrakash]] ([[User talk:ParvatPrakash#top|talk]]) 09:32, 11 September 2024 (UTC)
== Preventing Edit War by asking for a discussion on the topic of Girnar mountain September 2024 ==
[[File:Information.svg|25px|alt=Information icon]] Hi. Your recent contribution to [[Girnar]] deserves a discussion before they can be published in my opinion. I have created a topic in [[Talk:Girnar]] page where you can find more information. I would advise you to please review it before reverting changes or submitting any edits related to that topic.
If you have you want to have further discussion of have any question you can also reach me at [[User_talk:Tannaray68|my talk page]]. Thanks. <!-- Template:uw-disruptive1 --> [[User:Tannaray68|Tannaray68]] ([[User talk:Tannaray68|talk]]) 22:03, 22 September 2024 (UTC)
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== Jainism page edit warring - Oct 25 ==
Hi ParvatPrakash, I have been asking you continuously for discussion on talk page regarding your recent edits in History section of your [[Jainism]] page and engaging in edit war.
1. Your content is not in tune with the section of the page. The section simply mentions Jain poet [[Shrimad Rajchandra]]'s contribution in colonial era.
2. There is no mention of Shrimad Rajchandra as a monk which you are stating. So there is no context in your lines.
3. In one of the comments, you mention that "largest sect" doesn't recognise "Shrimad Rajchandra sect". There is no mention of Shrimad Rajchandra sect so this again is out of context. Secondly, numerical strength of sects don't get them any authoritative power to recognise or reject others.
4. The sources you provided from Shrimad Rajchandra website have no mention about other sects. Mr. Yugbhushan's personal views are not Wikipedia's voice to be accepted in Jainism's history section. Please provide sources from academic scholarship.
5. Please refrain from deleting random lines. [[User:Livingstonshr|Livingstonshr]] ([[User talk:Livingstonshr|talk]]) 15:51, 25 October 2024 (UTC)
:I have already rephrased my content. With all due respect, if you found anything controversial with my content, you should've ideally initiated the discussion on the talk page. Shrimad Rajchandra and his sect are related. If you mention one, you simply also refer to the other. His practices aren't accepted by other sects, and if you didn't know that, I can cite numerous sources from religious texts of all the historically recognized sects. Numerical strength is acceptable or not is not the point of discussion. Svetambara and Digambara are the only two historical sects. The rest are sects started later by laypersons. I did not delete random lines. One can simply not mention that Shrimad Rajchandra is revered without reliable sources. My point still stands. [[User:ParvatPrakash|ParvatPrakash]] ([[User talk:ParvatPrakash#top|talk]]) 15:56, 25 October 2024 (UTC)
::Your actions are clearly agenda driven, biased and sectarian in nature. You omitted a content which was present on the page since more than a decade, without any interest in gaining consensus. Shrimad Rajchandra and sect formed by his followers after him are not related. None of us are here to decide which sects are correct and which ones are not. The history section simply states his works and contributions. All notable saints have critics from other sects, Mr. Yugbhushan, whose personal opinion you cited is himself infamous for proclaiming himself "spiritual monarch" of Jainism. The purpose of Jainism page is only to give introductory information on notable people and places related to it and not to show one sect superior to another,or anyone's personal opinions. Kindly refrain from making any changes further. Thank You. [[User:Livingstonshr|Livingstonshr]] ([[User talk:Livingstonshr|talk]]) 16:42, 25 October 2024 (UTC)
== Warning for 3 RR ==
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'''Being involved in an edit war can result in you being [[Wikipedia:Blocking policy|blocked from editing]]'''—especially if you violate the [[Wikipedia:Edit warring#The three-revert rule|three-revert rule]], which states that an editor must not perform more than three [[Help:Reverting|reverts]] on a single page within a 24-hour period. Undoing another editor's work—whether in whole or in part, whether involving the same or different material each time—counts as a revert. Also keep in mind that while violating the three-revert rule often leads to a block, you can still be blocked for edit warring—'''even if you do not violate the three-revert rule'''—should your behavior indicate that you intend to continue reverting repeatedly.<!-- Template:uw-3rr --> [[User:Livingstonshr|Livingstonshr]] [[User:Livingstonshr|Livingstonshr]] ([[User talk:Livingstonshr|talk]]) 18:06, 25 October 2024 (UTC)
:I've only reverted thrice. I did not go over the limit of 3 reverts. [[User:ParvatPrakash|ParvatPrakash]] ([[User talk:ParvatPrakash#top|talk]]) 19:59, 25 October 2024 (UTC)
::Hello {{u|ParvatPrakash}}, you have [[WP:EW|edit warred]] about [[Jainism]] independently of the three-revert rule. You had been blocked for edit warring before and it led to page protection today. If it continues on other pages, a block without automatic expiry date may follow. [[User:ToBeFree|~ ToBeFree]] ([[User talk:ToBeFree|talk]]) 00:38, 26 October 2024 (UTC)
:::I apologize for edit warring if I've violated policies. Usually, I do take care that it doesn't violate the 3RR and try to explain the reason for the revert in the edit summary itself. I understand the reason for this warning and I assure you that this won't repeat. I had taken 3RR as a litmus test. I'll take care to not edit war even without applying this rule. I wholeheartedly welcome your decision to protect the page because it's already a GA and it's fair that editors only with good experience of editing pages on Wikipedia are given the permission to edit this page. Earlier, it was already protected up to autoconfirmed access. I think it's a good move to take it up to extended confirmed viewing the recent vandalising edits and edits with original research. Thank you and sorry again for my careless behaviour. [[User:ParvatPrakash|ParvatPrakash]] ([[User talk:ParvatPrakash#top|talk]]) 10:07, 26 October 2024 (UTC)
::::All good. Thank you for your understanding and no worries. 🙂 [[User:ToBeFree|~ ToBeFree]] ([[User talk:ToBeFree|talk]]) 11:09, 26 October 2024 (UTC)
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