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"revert huge text addition in lead. Lead should only summarize content not introduce new content. Addition is also mostly unreferenced and biased. Relevant points may be included in the rest of the article in the appropriate sections"
violates several wiki-policies:
1) in particular you wrote "Addition is also mostly unreferenced and biased" in your deletion comment.
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*I agree with Ita's removal here. This is far too specific for a general summary and makes the lead too long. The lead absolutely does not need to get into things like uranium in oceans, neutron embrittlement, use of hafnium, and production of tritium, which are not discussed in the rest of the article so this is not an appropriate summary. I further agree that this is excessive content about limitations of nuclear power for the lead and makes it unbalanced. The lead does not need a numbered list like this, and it is a straw man to indicate the limitations of "Meeting humankind's total current demand of 15 TW of power using only Uranium-235 fission process" when that's a far cry from merely building more nuclear power alongside renewables. [[User:Reywas92|Reywas92]]<sup>[[User talk:Reywas92|Talk]]</sup> 14:40, 10 October 2024 (UTC)
:{{ping|Walter Tau}} Thanks for reaching out. Regarding your comments:
== Deletion of 'gravity battery' vid link in [[Solar Power]]? ==
:- Wikipedia is freely editable by anyone. You (or anyone else) are not entitled to 2 weeks of exclusive editing anywhere. See [[WP:OWN]] and in particular point 5 of [[WP:OWNBEHAVIOR]].
:- Anyone can delete unreferenced statements, especially if they are controversial as the ones you added, see [[WP:UNSOURCED]].
:- Most of content you added in the lead is not present in the article. The lead should exclusively summarize content in the article, not introduce ''anything'' new, see [[MOS:LEAD]]. Moreover, the lead should be proportional to the article size. You doubled the size of the lead, which was already quite long before.
:- As for whether I read the article, I was the one that nominated it for Good Article ([[WP:GA]]), so I not only read all of it multiple times and edited large sections of it, I also successfully went through a peer-review process on this article (see [[Talk:Nuclear_power/GA2]]).
:- As {{u|Reywas92}} pointed out already, your contributions are obviously biased as they are one-sided, suffer from [[straw-man argument]]s, and in general I think are based on a poor understanding of how economics and nuclear engineering works.
:- Your contributions are full of original research and synthesis. This is not allowed on Wikipedia, see [[WP:OR]]. All statement (especially if controversial) should be directly cited from reliable sources and no personal "conclusions" should be added.
:- Please refrain from accusing me of things I never said. I never called you an "idiot", and never said that you are spreading misinformation. You are accusing me of ad hominem attacks while I only commented on the content itself, never about you. I did (and still do) assume good faith, that is why I did not report you or do any other action that would be appropriate in case of vandalism. We are having a normal discussion regarding the contents.
:- Please sign your comments in talk pages by adding <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki> at the end of your comment. That makes it easier to attribute comments.
:Thank you again for engaging in the discussion. --[[User:Ita140188|Ita140188]] ([[User talk:Ita140188#top|talk]]) 09:01, 11 October 2024 (UTC)
::Thank you all for your comments. Even though I have made many edits on wiki, I stayed away from controvercial topics in the past, and I am still not aware of all wiki-policies: e.g., I have not ran into WP:OWN issues before.
::I know, it is possible to create a draft article on wiki. Is it possible to create a draft for improving an existing article, so that we do not manipulate the existing text until the updated draft is ready?
::[[User:Walter Tau|Walter Tau]] ([[User talk:Walter Tau|talk]]) 12:55, 11 October 2024 (UTC) Walter Tau
:::You can copy the article to your own sandbox [[User:Walter Tau/sandbox]] or create a new sandbox (such as [[User:Walter Tau/sandbox2]] or even [[User:Walter Tau/Nuclear power]]) and make changes there if you want. [[User:Ita140188|Ita140188]] ([[User talk:Ita140188#top|talk]]) 20:38, 12 October 2024 (UTC)
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Hello. I'm not peeved by your deletion of the link I recently added to the [[Solar Power]] article, but I'd like to understand the why.
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The idea of utilizing gravity in the storage of electric energy would seem to be worth exploring and, conceivably, making practical use of. It seems to make sense in conjunction with a renewable source such as wind. Why not with p.v.? Besides seasonal energy-production fluctuations depending on latitude, there's the cloud-cover variability factor.
You've considered the material in the video to be irrelevant. I thought it was a good introduction for laymen, such as me.[[User:Joel Russ|Joel Russ]] ([[User talk:Joel Russ|talk]]) 16:34, 17 February 2023 (UTC)
:{{ping|Joel Russ}} Hi, thank you for your message. The relevant policy for external links generally discourages the inclusion of user-created content, including Youtube videos (see [[WP:YOUTUBE]]). In general this material is not considered reliable. In this case in particular, there is also the problem of undue weight (see [[WP:UNDUE]]) to a technology that is at its early stages and unlikely to ever be economical compared to other established storage technologies, for example chemical batteries. Also, the article is about solar power, not [[energy storage]], so the video is also quite out of context. Of course there is also an entire article on [[gravity battery]]. --[[User:Ita140188|Ita140188]] ([[User talk:Ita140188#top|talk]]) 19:22, 17 February 2023 (UTC)
::Anton Petrov, the narrator of the video and probably involved in its creation, would be considered a user (of Youtube). I assume he had a hand in creating the video, and uses Youtube to publish or disseminate his videos. If I understand you correctly, this fact would make the video a "user-creation". You refer to policy that bans posting external links to user-created content.
::Possibly I didn't dig deep enough, but I found no mention in the policy statements about user-created content, or how these policies would apply across the board to Youtube videos.
::Still, I'd think energy-storage technologies, whatever tech they may involve, will be indispensable in conjunction with a number of renewable energy-production methods. But I can accept the rationale that, by providing an external link, a prototyped tech in the testing and development stages might be given undue weight.[[User:Joel Russ|Joel Russ]] ([[User talk:Joel Russ|talk]]) 05:07, 18 February 2023 (UTC)
:::Just to clarify: "user-created" doesn't make much sense, sorry. I meant "self-published", in the sense that users can post anything without external review. There is no editorial or peer review in Youtube. [[User:Ita140188|Ita140188]] ([[User talk:Ita140188#top|talk]]) 07:26, 20 February 2023 (UTC)
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Hi @[[User:Ita140188|Ita140188]] - I see you marked few issues with Degrowth article, without recent efforts to make it better or be more precise...would you mind checking it again and removing if any of the issues have been resolved? I would love to translate it, but now reluctant. Thank you. --[[User:Zblace|Zblace]] ([[User talk:Zblace|talk]]) 17:03, 27 May 2023 (UTC)
:{{ping|Zblace}} I think most of the issues remain. The article is mostly written as an essay rather than an encyclopedia article. In terms of viewpoints, the article is not neutral, and even the criticism section seems written from the point of view of degrowth advocates. In terms of references, there are still many paragraphs which lack citations. I haven't looked into the quality of the existing citations though. Other issues that are not tagged are the need for reorganization and trimming: for example, the background section is way too long and disorganized, and often digressing into unrelated topics (eg. definition of Intersectional feminism) --[[User:Ita140188|Ita140188]] ([[User talk:Ita140188#top|talk]]) 12:07, 30 May 2023 (UTC)
::@[[User:Ita140188|Ita140188]] is the same article in Italian better in your opinion? Should I use it as basis for translation instead? --[[User:Zblace|Zblace]] ([[User talk:Zblace|talk]]) 13:16, 30 May 2023 (UTC)
:::I never read or edit the Italian Wikipedia, but from a quick check it appears that the corresponding article in Italian also has some problems, such as bias and lack of citations, but at least it appears more focused and better structured. However, this is only from a very quick check, I haven't read it in full [[User:Ita140188|Ita140188]] ([[User talk:Ita140188#top|talk]]) 13:22, 30 May 2023 (UTC)
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== Edit to Radioactive waste ==
Hi , Thanks for the notice of "top priority" that I added. In https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Radioactive_waste#Immediate_threat I did write it is not the correct place, but no such place exists. There should be a heading for immediate threats of nuclear waste being released into the environemt. Can you help and advise?--[[User:Mark v1.0|Mark v1.0]] ([[User talk:Mark v1.0|talk]]) 17:15, 30 January 2024 (UTC)
:Hi, thank you for your edits. I reverted the edits as the framing seems to be original research ([[WP:OR]]). There is no source for the definition of a "top priority radioactive waste". Also there is no mention that these particular radioactive sources in the bottom of the ocean are the most dangerous or immediate risk related to radioactive waste. In my view, they are most likely a negligible risk for the environment or humans. In fact the most dangerous radioactive waste to humans is probably coal ash which we regularly breath. We could add information about waste from sunken nuclear submarines and other deep sea waste in the "sources" section, mentioning that there are plans to resurface them eventually. [[User:Ita140188|Ita140188]] ([[User talk:Ita140188#top|talk]]) 17:42, 30 January 2024 (UTC)
:: Right, there are different opinions on the dangers of the current location of radioactive wastes. You admit your bias in your reply. The subject of "immediate threat" does exist, with people on each side of the issue. The section removed had references to legitimate sources who had the opinion of "immediate threat". Large sums of money have been spent on the "immediate threat" problem. I do not want to get into an edit war with you. Will you admit the subject of "immediate threat" is a category/title?--[[User:Mark v1.0|Mark v1.0]] ([[User talk:Mark v1.0|talk]]) 17:11, 31 January 2024 (UTC)
:::I'm not sure how I "admitted my own bias". My view is informed by my knowledge of the subject from my studies and my work. By this logic you also admit your own bias (?).
:::As for your proposal: none of the sources you cited report a "immediate threat". Again, I propose to list sunken nuclear submarines within the "Sources" section. From your own sources, there is no indication that these specific radioactive waste pose the most immediate or most significant threat to the environment or health compared to other nuclear waste.
:::On a related note, it's easy to find reports with ridiculously exaggerated impacts or risks for health and environment with anything related to radiation and nuclear stuff (compared to other non-radiation related risks) due to the general negative bias with which nuclear has been reported since the 1970s. This is true even from some sources that are generally reliable in other contexts. [[User:Ita140188|Ita140188]] ([[User talk:Ita140188#top|talk]]) 17:44, 31 January 2024 (UTC)
Hi again. Responding you last comment.
Yes obviously I am bias in that I want(ed) the category "imminent threat"/top priority/imminent danger (or something similar) included on radioactive waste and you don't.
And I disagree that none of what I wrote had proof of imminent threat. My references had governments spending millions of dollars to clean up the waste before something happens. Why are they spending the money right now, if it is not perceived by the governments as an immediate threat?
"Imminent threat" is a time sensitive category. We can not write about the past , but probable future, and you wrote "in my opinion", but people have different opinions. You claim yours is the correct one, I claim my opinion in the correct one. The opinions have to be explained.
The category can say there is NO danger as is being alleged, as well as citing there is danger.
Anyways..immediate threat-imminent danger as a '''category'''.
* 1 You wrote it is easy to find material, I assumed the same also, but I can not easily find hysteria on the Tritium released from Fukushima https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fukushima_Daiichi_Nuclear_Power_Plant#Dismantling_of_reactors. Tritium https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tritium#Decay tritium can penetrate only about 6.0 millimetres (0.24 in) of air, but has a 12 year half life.
https://www.tbsnews.net/world/global-economy/hong-kong-details-import-ban-some-japanese-seafood-due-fukushima-release-687278
"imminent release of treated radioactive water"
This might be in the category to write of the lack of evidence of imminent danger.
* 2 Hanford Site, USA
Decommissioning the plant. Why are they decommissioning the plant?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hanford_Site#Cleanup_under_Superfund
https://ecology.wa.gov/waste-toxics/nuclear-waste/hanford-cleanup/leaking-tanks
"we do not believe either leak represents an imminent danger"
This might be in the category to write of the lack of evidence of imminent danger.
* 3 Asse II salt mine
Radioactive waste tossed in the mine.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asse_II_mine#Current_progress
https://www.spiegel.de/international/germany/germany-weighs-options-for-handling-nuclear-waste-in-asse-mine-a-884523.html
The mine was in danger of flooding / some in favor of flooding the mine.
The Germany's Federal Office for Radiation Protection (BfS) should "immediately" proceed with "measures for the secure storage of the radioactive waste in the subterranean cavities."
* 4 Xcel Energy's Monticello nuclear power plant, in Minnesota.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monticello_Nuclear_Generating_Plant#Incidents_and_updates
https://www.ans.org/news/article-4863/monticello-taken-off-line-due-to-tritium-leak/
"no evidence at this point to indicate a current or imminent risk to the public "
* 5 Diablo Canyon (reactor) earthquake vulnerability
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diablo_Canyon_earthquake_vulnerability
On July 15, 2011, PBS aired a 17-minute video documenting the controversy over the discovery of the Shoreline fault
* 6 Imminent danger of forest fire
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Forest#Wildfires
Wildfires in Chernobyl-contaminated forests and risks to the population and the environment: A new nuclear disaster about to happen?
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0160412014002608
For the aforementioned reasons, we study the consequences of different forest fires on the redistribution of 137Cs. Using the time frequency of the fires that occurred in the area during 2010, we study three scenarios assuming that 10%, 50% and 100% of the area are burnt.
To have imminent danger on each Wikipedia article, such as the radioactive submarines and 20,000 spent fuel rods, but not as a group in the main section of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radioactive_waste is wrong.--[[User:Mark v1.0|Mark v1.0]] ([[User talk:Mark v1.0|talk]]) 04:42, 2 February 2024 (UTC)
:I am not sure what's your point listing all these well-known anti-nuclear scares. Since it would be too long (and out of topic) to discuss them all, I'll just use the first one as an example of what I meant. The water containing tritium in Fukushima is being released with an average radioactivity of 1,500 becquerel per liter (kg) (see sources in [[Discharge_of_radioactive_water_of_the_Fukushima_Daiichi_Nuclear_Power_Plant]]). For comparison: natural [[potassium]], which is an essential element in our life and present in many food we eat every day, has a radioactivity of ~30,000 becquerel per kg, which is 20 times the radioactivity of the water released in Fukushima. You could literally drink that water without any measurable health effect. On the other hand, there has been plenty of hysteria around this, including China boycotting all Japanese seafood and other products [https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-66577769] [[User:Ita140188|Ita140188]] ([[User talk:Ita140188#top|talk]]) 08:16, 2 February 2024 (UTC)
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