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== Influences and Sources: What about Dean Koontz? ==
 
I find it strange that in neither the article nor the talk page is there any mention of Dean Koontz' 1973 short story "Wake Up To Thunder", which contains the entire premise of the film except those elements which inspire the characters to run around shooting at each other. The look and feel of the film certainly is the Wachowski's own, but the article contains plenty of talk about philosophical influences from Descartes to Hilary Putnam without any mention of Koontz' story, which is basically the movie without its makeup on. I read it in 1978 in "children of infinity: original science fiction stories for young readers" (note the groovy '70s lack of capitalization), which according to the Wikipedia Koontz bibliography was first published in 1973. To judge by the book's price on Amazon ($30+ for "Good" and Very Good" copies), it's still pretty sought-after, which implies people are familiar with it. [[User:Scutigera|Scutigera]] ([[User talk:Scutigera|talk]]) 02:57, 25 November 2020 (UTC)
:Do you have a source that compares the two? For us to do so on our own would be [[WP:OR|original research]]. Cheers. [[User:Doniago|DonIago]] ([[User talk:Doniago|talk]]) 04:45, 25 November 2020 (UTC)
 
== Semi-protected edit request on 31 December 2020 ==
 
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Can we please expand on the section discussing the transgender themes of the film? Not only is it relevant because of the filmmaker's intentions, but also because the film is important for the transgender community. I also the think the article in general should be expanded, similar to how Darkwarriorblake expanded the articles for Aliens and Back to the Future. Thank you and have an excellent day! [[Special:Contributions/2601:583:C001:950:F9BB:80B0:2399:864D|2601:583:C001:950:F9BB:80B0:2399:864D]] ([[User talk:2601:583:C001:950:F9BB:80B0:2399:864D|talk]]) 23:25, 31 December 2020 (UTC)
:It's a worthwhile suggestion, but it requires [[WP:RS|published sources]] that talk about that aspect of the subject. (See previous request.) -[[User:JasonAQuest|Jason A. Quest]] ([[User talk:JasonAQuest|talk]]) 04:15, 1 January 2021 (UTC)
:I will get to it eventually, but it's way down my list of future projects. I've got like... 4 other films I want to work on first. [[User: Darkwarriorblake|Darkwarriorblake]] / [[User talk:Darkwarriorblake|SEXY ACTION TALK PAGE!]] 00:05, 2 January 2021 (UTC)
::I heard this guy do an interesting talk about it, so there's probably some material to be found in his book. [https://www.press.uillinois.edu/books/catalog/32ytd5qh9780252042126.html] -[[User:JasonAQuest|Jason A. Quest]] ([[User talk:JasonAQuest|talk]]) 03:04, 2 January 2021 (UTC)
 
== Semi-protected edit request on 8 January 2021 ==
 
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The plot has been confirmed to be an allegory for transgender identity
 
To be removed. The point is quite broad and vague and largely untrue of the movie. It is also a mis-representation of the source point. Reviewing the source indicates the director explaining a single character in the first movie only explored the idea of transformation which was a larger narrative of the movie (transformation that is). This sentence ' The plot has been confirmed to be an allegory for transgender identity' is misleading making you believe the entire movie is an allegory for transgender identity but it is not the case. [[User:Paul Mentor 31|Paul Mentor 31]] ([[User talk:Paul Mentor 31|talk]]) 11:38, 8 January 2021 (UTC)
:Done. [[User: Darkwarriorblake|Darkwarriorblake]] / [[User talk:Darkwarriorblake|SEXY ACTION TALK PAGE!]] 13:01, 8 January 2021 (UTC)
::The author specifically states the entire concept of "Matrix" is an allegory, and the character, Switch, just demonstrated that more clearly. The "transformation" is part of that, as stated by the author: 'The Matrix' stuff was all about a desire for transformation but it was all coming from a closeted point of view." [[User:Ynneblack|Ynneblack]] ([[User talk:Ynneblack|talk]]) 21:20, 8 January 2021 (UTC)
 
::Oppose whitewashing, and requesting reversion. Also, requesting user is a new account, who's only edit is on this page. I suspect a sock account of an editor from a few weeks ago.--[[User:L1A1 FAL|L1A1 FAL]] ([[User talk:L1A1 FAL|talk]]) 22:08, 8 January 2021 (UTC)
:::You ''get'' that the content is ''still'' in the article right? One line of content was removed because it didn't belong in the opening paragraph in a way that implied that was entirely what the movie is about when the source is from 20 years after the film was released. The user was absolutely right to point out it's very broad and undue prominence in the opening paragraph. [[User: Darkwarriorblake|Darkwarriorblake]] / [[User talk:Darkwarriorblake|SEXY ACTION TALK PAGE!]] 22:13, 8 January 2021 (UTC)
::::The authors address why they are talking about it 20 years after the film was released, and not back then. I definitely think the line could use improvements or clarification, but maybe not necessarily removal. This could use more opinions before deletion. But most importantly, as far as I can tell, the request comes from ''misunderstanding'' what the creators said (i.e. thinking the allegory ''only'' refers to Switch, I did not find any quote that would support this claim). [[User:Ynneblack|Ynneblack]] ([[User talk:Ynneblack|talk]]) 22:24, 8 January 2021 (UTC)
::::: Regardless of the authors or their intent, it didn't belong in the lead paragraph or to be presented as the only theme in the film, because there is an entire section of the article dedicated to analysing it. It isn't an attack on anyone, and I think the level of upset, particularly the use of the term "whitewashing" as an opening argument, shows that maybe there is not a balanced view here regarding the article as a whole. [[User: Darkwarriorblake|Darkwarriorblake]] / [[User talk:Darkwarriorblake|SEXY ACTION TALK PAGE!]] 22:33, 8 January 2021 (UTC)
:::::::And the information is still in the article. All that was removed is the unclearly written statement in the lede. -[[User:JasonAQuest|Jason A. Quest]] ([[User talk:JasonAQuest|talk]]) 22:34, 8 January 2021 (UTC)
::::::::The lede says the film deals with "difficult subjects" and "deeper themes" which are overshadowed by the visuals, but doesn't really say what those are, and I think it would be worthwhile to at least name-check some in the lede. I'd go with: reality vs. perception, freedom vs. slavery, and self-identity. (Saying it's just an allegory for being transgender puts way too much emphasis on one brief article and sells short the rest of the film's intellectual landscape.) -[[User:JasonAQuest|Jason A. Quest]] ([[User talk:JasonAQuest|talk]]) 22:59, 8 January 2021 (UTC)
 
== Semi-protected edit request on 11 January 2021 ==
 
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Please change the [[MOS:BULLETLIST|unordered list]] in {{section link|Cast list}} to a [[MOS:DLIST|description list]], as discussed [[#Cast list layout|above]]. The sole opposition at the time was based on a lack of understanding of the markup. I had [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=The_Matrix&diff=978804039&oldid=978759663 changed it myself], but it was later [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=The_Matrix&diff=983037433&oldid=982963577 reverted] without explanation or comment. [[Special:Contributions/96.8.24.95|96.8.24.95]] ([[User talk:96.8.24.95|talk]]) 07:13, 11 January 2021 (UTC)
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== Plot summary: Is the hotel really abandoned? ==
 
Who is Youssef oufela [[Special:Contributions/105.67.128.223|105.67.128.223]] ([[User talk:105.67.128.223|talk]]) 22:57, 12 August 2022 (UTC)
Maybe this was just an oversight, but we can clearly see in the opening scene of the movie the hotel's sign is lit up (Heart o' the city Hotel). This suggests the hotel is not abandoned but simply run-down, as someone is obviously still paying the electric bill, plus, a lit up sign implies they're open. <!-- Template:Unsigned --><span class="autosigned" style="font-size:85%;">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Damaband|Damaband]] ([[User talk:Damaband#top|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Damaband|contribs]]) 01:24, 17 May 2021 (UTC)</span> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
:I don't see anything about them in the context of The Matrix. —'''[[User:C.Fred|C.Fred]]''' ([[User_talk:C.Fred|talk]]) 23:03, 12 August 2022 (UTC)
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