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==Doo Wop==
"they could not have been intimidating because they sang Doo Wop songs". Doo Wop was to 1950s youth culture what hip-hop has been to more recent generations ; it was associated with African-American street culture. The author of the original article clearly lacks historical context. [[Prairie Dog]]
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:No one is saying that the song was written during this period... only that it was inspired by his time away from LA.[[User:Tgpaul58|Tgpaul58]] ([[User talk:Tgpaul58|talk]]) 14:03, 24 September 2009 (UTC)
Either way, it's wrong. It has been stated many times by both John and Michelle Phillips that "California Dreamin'" was written after a walk they had taken in New York, after returning from the Virgin Islands. It was supposedly the first time Michelle had seen snow, she wasn't dressed for it. They stopped into a church to get warm, rather than to pray. Michelle was pleading to John and Denny to move to California, where she was from.[[User:Johnsmusicbox|Johnsmusicbox]] ([[User talk:Johnsmusicbox|talk]]) 23:42, 7 November 2009 (UTC)
::It could be wrong. But the USNA thing played out (and was not in the article for a long time). There are stories from his classmates of him playing the guitar and such. I think stuff like this belongs on talk until substantiated. Not in any way pushing it. Or trying to play sneaky games with talk versus article. Just the man was more than what his later life in rocknroll was. Can ask first wife if you want... [[User:TCO|TCO]] ([[User talk:TCO|talk]]) 21:44, 6 March 2011 (UTC)
== Consensual Sex ==
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Are completely irrelevant to this discussion. In fact, that statement is an opinion. It is a fact that she herself used the term, so that can be stated in the article with a source (in an example like, 'so and so stated the relationship was consensual'; not just saying 'the relationship was consensual'). No matter what any of us think if it's impossible that it was consensual or not, we can not interpret the information ourselves, that's original research. If however, an outside secondary source makes a comment on how the relationship could never really be consensual, then we can report and cite that. Basically, it makes no difference what any of us think of the situation. It is a fact to report or quote what someone said, it is an opinion to interpret quotes or words used by people (and thus against wiki policy), even if we think "''she got it wrong''". [[Special:Contributions/24.190.34.219|24.190.34.219]] ([[User talk:24.190.34.219|talk]]) 03:02, 26 September 2009 (UTC)
The article on Mackenzie Phillips has [[Mackenzie_Phillips#Allegations_of_sexual_relationship_with_father|more]] on this issue. The respective paragraph in this article should be updated, too. [[Special:Contributions/62.152.162.206|62.152.162.206]] ([[User talk:62.152.162.206|talk]]) 04:12, 18 June 2010 (UTC)
== Sex after death ==
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Since MacKenzie Phillips' has admitted publically she engaged in a consensual, incestutous relationship with her father, and her father is dead and these claims cannot be proven (see definition for allegation), "claim" seems to be the better, more correct choice of terminology here. What she reports happened may be contradicted (see "claim), but it can never be proven (see "allegation") because the other party is deceased. [[User:Kelly A. Siebecke|SkagitRiverQueen]] ([[User talk:Kelly A. Siebecke|talk]]) 02:18, 26 September 2009 (UTC)
== solo album ==
I was trying to clean up some possible vandalism surrounding this entry.
* 1969: '' John Phillips (John) Recorded at RPM Studios Johannesburg South Africa 1969
There was some commentary added that it wasn't the same John Phillips. It was completely removed, and I started to added it back minus the commentary. However I was having trouble verifying if it truly existed. Hopefully someone here with more knowledge can verify if it belongs or not.--[[User:Cube lurker|Cube lurker]] ([[User talk:Cube lurker|talk]]) 20:58, 22 February 2011 (UTC)
== Re: "The Mamas and the Papas" section ==
I found this rather difficult to follow at times. Some sentences were convoluted, while others seemed fragmented. Overall there wasn't enough information provided; there were several gaping holes in the narrative, which was rather confusing. Unfortunately I'm not sure how it could be improved. I'll think on it, I guess. But by all means go ahead if you agree with me and come up with a solution yourself. I'm not quite as, uh, "bold as some... and I'm not at all familiar with the pertaining topic. I was never a fan of early-to-mid-60's folk-pop, I always preferred the later 60's and 70's prodigies like Bridget St. John, Nick Drake, Leonard Cohen, Roy Harper. But that's beside the point. I'm just rambling. See, this is why I don't actually edit articles!
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== "You could have any man you want. Why would you take mine?" ==
While this quote/anecdote from Michelle Phillips quoting Mama Cass is '''very''' tasty ("You could have any man you want. Why would you take mine?"), it really doesn't have anything to do with John Phillips. I am more than reluctant to remove it myself, however. [[User:Mousebelt|Mousebelt]] ([[User talk:Mousebelt|talk]]) 16:46, 12 September 2015 (UTC)
== Undue weight ==
This is one of the saddest, most ill-represented articles I've ever come across on Wikipedia. This subject is regarded as one of the greatest songwriters / vocal arrangers of the 20th century. This is a travesty that clearly displays s non-NPOV toward tabloid content and trivial sensationalism. This is poorly researched and disgracefully honored. Shame. [[User:Maineartists|Maineartists]] ([[User talk:Maineartists|talk]]) 01:54, 28 July 2017 (UTC)
== Requested move 30 October 2023 ==
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:''The following is a closed discussion of a [[Wikipedia:Requested moves|requested move]]. <span style="color:red">'''Please do not modify it.'''</span> Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a [[Wikipedia:move review|move review]] after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.''
The result of the move request was: '''not moved''' <small>(non-admin closure)</small>. [[User:Jenks24|Jenks24]] ([[User talk:Jenks24|talk]]) 06:30, 6 November 2023 (UTC)
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* [[:John Phillips (musician)]] → {{no redirect|John Phillips}}
* [[:John Phillips]] → {{no redirect|John Phillips (disambiguation)}}
– Possible [[WP:primary topic|primary topic]] by usage (more than four times the pageviews of all [https://pageviews.wmcloud.org/massviews/?platform=all-access&agent=user&source=wikilinks&range=all-time&sort=views&direction=1&view=list&target=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Phillips sixty-some other John Phillips combined]) and significance (Rock Hall of Fame). [[User:Hameltion|Hameltion]] ([[User talk:Hameltion|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Hameltion|contribs]]) 04:57, 30 October 2023 (UTC)
*'''Weak oppose''', there's so many noteable and historical figures with the name that I'm finding it hard to just pick the musician as PRIMARY. I wouldn't be terribly upset if consensus says otherwise, however.--[[User:Ortizesp|Ortizesp]] ([[User talk:Ortizesp|talk]]) 07:36, 30 October 2023 (UTC)
*'''Oppose'''. Far too many with this common name on the list for him to triumph over all by long-term significance. -- [[User:Necrothesp|Necrothesp]] ([[User talk:Necrothesp|talk]]) 14:17, 31 October 2023 (UTC)
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