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:::::I saw this posted on Jimbo's talk page. i have no connection to this subject. Actually never heard of him before today. [[Special:Contributions/71.203.254.54|71.203.254.54]] ([[User talk:71.203.254.54|talk]]) 23:52, 24 March 2017 (UTC)
::::::Whatever. You have a right to participate in this discussion whether you are connected or not. Best to declare. If not connected, don't. [[User:Coretheapple|Coretheapple]] ([[User talk:Coretheapple|talk]]) 15:13, 25 March 2017 (UTC)
:::::::We can always move it to the Controversies section. [[User:St. claires fire|St. claires fire]] ([[User talk:St. claires fire|talk]]) 00:29, 15 April 2017 (UTC)
Vandals don't get special treatment, especially if they are running for a federal office. That his campaign admitted to [[WP:POV]] on his page is completely unprecedented for someone of this level of influence. It ''absolutely'' needs to be in the lead. -- [[User:Sleyece|Sleyece]] ([[User talk:Sleyece|talk]]) 11:29, 30 July 2018 (UTC)
==Anon IPs editing this page==
{{atop|[[WP:CYCLE]] has been implemented -- [[User:Sleyece|Sleyece]] ([[User talk:Sleyece|talk]]) 18:20, 30 July 2018 (UTC)}}Given the subject of this article admitting in a CNN interview yesterday that he (or his "campaign") has been editing this page for nearly 3 years, I think it's wise to turn a highly critical eye on any edits made by anon IPs in the coming days. I'm all for anon IPs editing Wikipedia, but when there's clear evidence that a subject is editing his own article, obviously that calls into question the neutrality of any anon IP that shows up during this timeframe and starts spinning info to make the subject appear in a more flattering light. [[User:Rockypedia|Rockypedia]] ([[User talk:Rockypedia|talk]]) 23:45, 24 March 2017 (UTC)
: Assume bad faith all you want, but please follow policies adding material to a BLP. Namely NOTNEWS, LEAD, UNDUE, WEIGHT, and BLP. [[Special:Contributions/71.203.254.54|71.203.254.54]] ([[User talk:71.203.254.54|talk]]) 23:47, 24 March 2017 (UTC)
:: See above. If you have a close connection to the subject, you have no business weighing in here. Thanks for your efforts. [[User:Rockypedia|Rockypedia]] ([[User talk:Rockypedia|talk]]) 23:48, 24 March 2017 (UTC)
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== RfC: How to handle his campaign's Wikipedia editing? ==
{{atop|'''Consensus''' is to ''include'' the proposed text in the {{red|body}} of the article at the "Campaign for Virginia Governor" section. [[User:Winged Blades of Godric|<span style= "color:green">''Winged Blades''</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:Winged Blades of Godric| Godric]]</sup> 07:13, 7 May 2017 (UTC)}}
How should the following material be handled:
:{{xt|In March of 2017, Stewart admitted that his campaign, since at least May of 2014, had been editing his Wikipedia page to remove unflattering information and add positive spin, through at least two registered accounts.}}
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#In the body of the article (the "Campaign for Virginia Governor" section), or
#Not included at all?
[[User:Herostratus|Herostratus]] ([[User talk:Herostratus|talk]]) 15:12, 25 March 2017 (UTC)
===Survey===
*'''In the body of the article.''' Clearly relevant. This is always a judgment call, obviously, but I believe that putting it in the lead, as a defining characteristic of the subject, is excessive given the length of the article. [[User:Coretheapple|Coretheapple]] ([[User talk:Coretheapple|talk]]) 15:16, 25 March 2017 (UTC)
*'''In the body, with passing mention in the lead''' -- changing my vote to compromise in order to help achieve consensus. [[User:Herostratus|Herostratus]] ([[User talk:Herostratus|talk]]) 14:49, 31 March 2017 (UTC) <s>'''In the lede'''.</s> [[WP:IAR]] instructs us to "maintain Wikipedia"; a major aspect of this is defending the integrity of our data. And one powerful way to do this is by dissuading entities from trying to corrupt it to private ends. And the best way to do that is to offer prominent examples of possible negative outcomes if they try it. Prominent, hence the lede. All healthy and functional organisms defend themselves. Sickly and dysfunctional ones don't. Which type do we want to be? [[User:Herostratus|Herostratus]] ([[User talk:Herostratus|talk]]) 15:45, 25 March 2017 (UTC)
::Really, anything whatsoever that "offers a negative outcome" is okay if you're defending oneself? I don't believe that. There are limits where some things are not acceptable even to teach someone a lesson. We have [[WP:WEIGHT]] for a reason and we should keep to it. Furthermore, WP:WEIGHT falls under [[WP:NPOV]], which says "This policy is non-negotiable, and the principles upon which it is based cannot be superseded by other policies or guidelines, nor by editor consensus." This means that you can't supersede it with IAR. [[User:Ken Arromdee|Ken Arromdee]] ([[User talk:Ken Arromdee|talk]]) 18:01, 25 March 2017 (UTC)
:::Not ''anything''. Reasonable things. Not trying to teach a lesson but rather set an example, which is different. And we aren't NPOV ''about Wikipedia'' and can't be. We don't go "well, someone has vandalized this article, but to revert would display the POV 'Wikipedia is good and worthwhile' so let's not". [[User:Herostratus|Herostratus]] ([[User talk:Herostratus|talk]]) 18:44, 25 March 2017 (UTC)
::::OK, but "teaching a lesson" is much the same as "punishing." Has no place in Wikipedia, sorry. Look, we're all friends, we all feel the same way about paid editing and COI. Let's not overreach, please. [[User:Coretheapple|Coretheapple]] ([[User talk:Coretheapple|talk]]) 16:52, 28 March 2017 (UTC)
*''' In the body.''' Relevant and notable but does not need to be focused on by 1/3 of the lead. I do not agree with Herostratus that focusing on this issue per IAR is "defending the integrity of our data." I'm actually quite surprised by that characterization. It is not appropriate to make an example out of a BLP. Thank you however for opening this discussion. [[Special:Contributions/71.203.254.54|71.203.254.54]] ([[User talk:71.203.254.54|talk]]) 17:52, 25 March 2017 (UTC)
*'''In the body, with passing mention in the lead''' This has nothing to do with either making an example of Mr. Stewart on the one hand or trying to minimize the controversy on the other. It's just following [[WP:LEAD]], where the lead is supposed to be a concise summary of the body of the article. [[User:Shock Brigade Harvester Boris|Shock Brigade Harvester Boris]] ([[User talk:Shock Brigade Harvester Boris|talk]]) 19:13, 25 March 2017 (UTC)
*'''In the body,''' with possible passing mention at end of the lead, for reasons given by others. For reasons given by others, this isn't a defining feature and defending ourselves is not synonymous with either vindictiveness, nor having an excessively grand view of our own importance. [[User:Pincrete|Pincrete]] ([[User talk:Pincrete|talk]]) 21:38, 25 March 2017 (UTC)
*'''in the body, short mention in the lede.''' Per Shock BHB and Pincrete. We can properly defend ourselves someplace outside the article. [[User:Smallbones|Smallbones]]<sub>([[User talk:Smallbones|<span style="color:#cc6600;">smalltalk</span>]])</sub> 03:33, 26 March 2017 (UTC)
*'''In the body.''' I agree with the enthusiasm to include this kind of information in articles whenever RS coverage supports it. I sympathize with the desire to put it in the lead. However stuffing this into the lead is bending our standards too far for ulterior motives. Even when those motives are well intentioned. [[User:Alsee|Alsee]] ([[User talk:Alsee|talk]]) 11:44, 26 March 2017 (UTC)
*'''In the body.''' A mention in the lead would likely only be justifiable ''if'' the incident led to a meaningful real-world impact ''and'' the lead section was substantially expanded in the future (say three paragraphs or more). [[User:Neutrality|Neutrality]]<sup>[[User talk:Neutrality|talk]]</sup>!
*'''In the body, short mention in the lead.''' I agree with Shock BHB, Pincrete, Smallbones, and Herostratus, for all of their numerous mentioned reasons. It's notable enough to merit one sentence in the lead. It's factual, it's verified (by the subject himself and reported in a reliable third-party source) - I see no good reason to keep it from the lead. It's supposed to be a summary of the body, and this was a notable incident that spanned years, and was reported as such. [[User:Rockypedia|Rockypedia]] ([[User talk:Rockypedia|talk]]) 06:10, 27 March 2017 (UTC)
*'''In the body''' Bot summoned, its where it belongs. Wikipedia does not tout other people's bad behavior to make an example of them. [[User:L3X1|L3X1]] [[User talk:L3X1|<small>(distant write)</small>]] 14:10, 6 April 2017 (UTC)
*<s>'''In the lede''' summoned by bot [[User:BlueSalix|BlueSalix]] ([[User talk:BlueSalix|talk]]) 04:25, 12 April 2017 (UTC)</s>
:: Striking this vote of a banned sock. [[User:Neutrality|Neutrality]]<sup>[[User talk:Neutrality|talk]]</sup> 06:00, 30 April 2017 (UTC)
*'''Exclude''' This is very interesting to Wikipedia editors, but it seems fairly minor in the scheme of things. His office tried to spin things in a way that made him look good. That is basically every politician alive. Just because they did it to us, doesn't really make it a big deal. Let's also be honest, Wikipedians are vengeful. He broke our rules, let's make him suffer. [[User talk:AniMate|AniMate]] 04:44, 12 April 2017 (UTC)
*'''In the body''' - I think it is valid encyclopedic material and is appropriate for the article. However, I don't think it defines the individual and I would not include in the lede.--[[User:Rpclod|Rpclod]] ([[User talk:Rpclod|talk]]) 11:15, 15 April 2017 (UTC)
*'''In the body'''- I strongly believe that it is appropriate material for the body of the article but since it doesn't really define the individual, I think it must not be included in the lead.--[[User:Kostas20142|Kostas20142]] ([[User talk:Kostas20142|talk]]) 10:02, 19 April 2017 (UTC)
*'''In the body''' - This certainly is not significant enough for inclusion in the lead. A brief mention is the body is adequate. [[User:Meatsgains|Meatsgains]] ([[User talk:Meatsgains|talk]]) 18:33, 21 April 2017 (UTC)
===Threaded discussion===
Don't have too much more to add. In my view it's a simple issue. Thanks for commencing this RfC - best approach for sure. [[User:Coretheapple|Coretheapple]] ([[User talk:Coretheapple|talk]]) 15:16, 25 March 2017 (UTC)
Well, I guess one point: I'd suggest that editors consider that there are other things that could with more validity go into the lead. The "cuckservative" stuff, his overheated rhetoric. I think that is more important than his wiki-editing text. [[User:Coretheapple|Coretheapple]] ([[User talk:Coretheapple|talk]]) 16:50, 28 March 2017 (UTC)
:Yeah you're right. I mean sure I made the case for including the Wikipedia stuff, but 1) it's admittedly a stretch, and 2) nobody else wants it, mostly. I changed my vote toward the middle, so right now I get 4 for "just in the body" and 5 for "In the body, with a brief/passing mention in the lede". [[User:Rockypedia]] instituted the latter with [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Corey_Stewart_%28politician%29&type=revision&diff=773131198&oldid=772993435 these edits], but I'm not sure that that's proper. It does include the cuckservative stuff too, and I think it's well done... I think it is helpful to the reader wanting a quick answer to the question "What is the entity Corey Stewart?" but that's my opinion. I'll leave it alone myself but I can see a case for rolling that back, considering that this's an ongoing discussion. [[User:Herostratus|Herostratus]] ([[User talk:Herostratus|talk]]) 14:54, 31 March 2017 (UTC)
:: I also felt like the lead needed to include his run for governor, as that's a high-profile ongoing action that's getting a lot of coverage, and with the 5 votes saying that at least a short mention in the lead was warranted, along with one more mentioning that it should be included only if the lead were expanded, this seemed like the best course. [[User:Rockypedia|Rockypedia]] ([[User talk:Rockypedia|talk]]) 15:04, 31 March 2017 (UTC)
:::I think that expansion of the lead and restricting it to a brief mention helps a lot from the NPOV perspective. [[User:Coretheapple|Coretheapple]] ([[User talk:Coretheapple|talk]]) 15:25, 31 March 2017 (UTC)
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== Does Stewart court bad publicity? ==
Stewart, like other figures associated with the alt-right, perhaps is provocative on purpose, as a way of grabbing attention. That being the case, if the article is full of negative information about him, maybe that's exactly what he wants, and therefore he wouldn't object to its being "unbalanced". [[User:St. claires fire|St. claires fire]] ([[User talk:St. claires fire|talk]]) 00:31, 15 April 2017 (UTC)
:If you think the article is unbalanced, please outline what you would add or cut on this page and we'll take a look. Please do not push the idea that paid or conflict-of-interest editing is somehow acceptable here, or that the CNN story on Stewart's campaign editing this article is somehow unsupported (re: your edit summary). People take this type of violation of our rules very seriously. [[User:Smallbones|Smallbones]]<sub>([[User talk:Smallbones|<span style="color:#cc6600;">smalltalk</span>]])</sub> 03:58, 15 April 2017 (UTC)
::When I saw the COI tag, I didn't make the connection initially between that and his paid editors; I thought that was referring to the typical kind of politician fanboy editing that goes on with these articles. (For example, pretty much every article about a Virginia legislator reads like a PR puff piece.) [[User:St. claires fire|St. claires fire]] ([[User talk:St. claires fire|talk]]) 07:23, 15 April 2017 (UTC)
== Comments on Civil War memorials and Confederate flags ==
Why isn't there any mention of [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KtbUIRPiSv8 this] in our article?
Currently the only mention of either "Confederate" or "Civil War" is in the refs where we link [http://www.citypages.com/news/duluths-corey-stewart-turns-confederate-poster-boy-in-virginia-governor-race/420512894 this article], which we link for the innocuous statement {{tq|Stewart is a native of Duluth, Minnesota}}, which seems like a comically poor reading of what the source actually says. (Yes, I know someone almost certainly had their own idea of what the article should say and found a source that supported it, without regard for what the source was actually all about, and how in most cases this is at least acceptable if not desirable.)
I'm not very interested in getting heavily involved with political BLPs, so I'll leave it for someone else to do.
[[User:Hijiri88|Hijiri 88]] (<small>[[User talk:Hijiri88|聖]][[Special:Contributions/Hijiri88|やや]]</small>) 05:32, 30 April 2017 (UTC)
*Stewart has only talked about these issues since he started running for governor in this cycle. Currently all 5 candidates for Virginia governor are lacking significant narration about their candidacies, and the page for [[Virginia gubernatorial election, 2017|the election itself]] also lacks any prose. So yeah, work is needed all around. -[[User:LtNOWIS|LtNOWIS]] ([[User talk:LtNOWIS|talk]]) 21:04, 13 May 2017 (UTC)
::Who cares if Wikipedia "lacks prose"? Remember [[WP:NOT]]. This is an Encyclopedia, we aren't writing poetry here. (Just as an aside: Any poetry about the subject of this article, would likely suck hard.) -- [[User:Sleyece|Sleyece]] ([[User talk:Sleyece|talk]]) 19:28, 1 August 2018 (UTC)
== Recent anon IP edits ==
I reverted some POV edits that an anon IP made recently. He resurfaced a few minutes ago and reverted me. I left them a message on their talk apge encouraging them to discuss here. [[User:Rockypedia|Rockypedia]] ([[User talk:Rockypedia|talk]]) 21:46, 13 February 2018 (UTC)
Anon IP's response:
[[User:Rockypedia|Rockypedia]] - your edits substantially rewrote the immigration section of this article, replacing citations to the Washington Post with citations to two magazine articles (National Geographic and The New Yorker). The edits were factually inaccurate and not in accordance with Wikipedia's BLP standards - other issues include:
1. Use of language inconsistent with the rest of the article, and other Wikipedia articles on similar topics;
2. Claims that cannot be validated or corroborated by other sources and appear to be political in nature ("designed to purge the county of undocumented immigrants");
3. Factual inaccuracy.
As Wikipedia's [[Wikipedia:Biographies of living persons|BLP page]] notes,
"We must get the article right. Be very firm about the use of high-quality sources. All quotations and any material challenged or likely to be challenged must be supported by an inline citation to a reliable, published source. Contentious material about living persons (or, in some cases, recently deceased) that is unsourced or ''poorly sourced''—whether the material is negative, positive, neutral, or just questionable—''should be removed immediately and without waiting for discussion''." <!-- Template:Unsigned IP --><small class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/172.58.184.47|172.58.184.47]] ([[User talk:172.58.184.47#top|talk]]) 16:00, 14 February 2018 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
I just want to say that there have been some attempts to add negative information over on [[Nick Freitas]]' page by random accounts that were created specifically to advance Corey Stewart's campaign. Freitas is a Republican running against Stewart right now.
Considering the history we've seen of Stewart's campaign operatives editing their candidate's own page, is it too much to ask that his page, and the pages of all his opponents (Republican and Democrat) be protected? Or could we have folks monitoring these pages to make sure stuff like this doesn't happen again? Freitas' page isn't all that long at the moment anyway, it just strikes me as extremely dishonest to try to mess with it as an extension of a political campaign. I imagine we're about to see similar hit jobs on [[E.W. Jackson]] and [[Tim Kaine]]. [[Special:Contributions/2601:5C2:C500:4D3E:D529:2195:58C7:9493|2601:5C2:C500:4D3E:D529:2195:58C7:9493]] ([[User talk:2601:5C2:C500:4D3E:D529:2195:58C7:9493|talk]]) 02:55, 16 February 2018 (UTC)
: Yes, I agree wholeheartedly. Can someone make a page protection request here? [[User:Rockypedia|Rockypedia]] ([[User talk:Rockypedia|talk]]) 04:22, 16 February 2018 (UTC)
== Edits to immigration section ==
I made a few changes to the immigration section, while doing my best to preserve [[User:Rockypedia|Rockypedia]]'s edits.
# '''"After Stewart took his seat as chairman, the Prince William County Board of Supervisors unanimously passed a resolution designed to purge the county of undocumented immigrants"'''
#* I revised that sentence to avoid [[Wikipedia:Biographies of living persons#Writing_style|overstatement]], so that it complies with the BLP standards; I also changed "undocumented immigrants" in light of Wikipedia's standard use of the term "illegal immigrants" - note the redirect from [[Undocumented immigrant]] to [[Illegal immigration]] - and because the rest of the article already conforms to that standard.
#* The revised sentence reads:
#*: ''"After Stewart took his seat as chairman, the Prince William County Board of Supervisors in 2007 unanimously passed a resolution targeting illegal immigrants residing in the County."''
# '''"the new law allowed the Prince William County Police Department to check the immigration status of anyone, even if they were not suspected of wrongdoing"'''
#* The cited source actually got this wrong - the original [http://www.pwcgov.org/government/dept/police/Documents/006881.PDF resolution] read:
#*: ''"Incident to any lawful detention for a violation of a state law or county ordinance, Prince William County Police Officers shall inquire into the citizenship or immigration status of the detained person if there is probable cause to believe such person is in violation of federal immigration law and when such inquiry will not expand the duration of the detention."''
#* The revised sentence reads as follows:
#*: ''"The resolution directed the Prince William County Police Department to check the immigration status of anyone detained on suspicion of wrongdoing."''
# '''Other changes:'''
#* Added a mention of the county's cutting off of business licenses to your discussion of the denial of public services - see this [http://www.nytimes.com/2007/10/17/us/17prison-cnd.html article] from the New York Times;
#* Added an additional citation to a Washington Post [http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/11/24/AR2010112406335.html article] discussing the change from detention to arrest.
#* Added a mention of the [[9500 Liberty]] documentary and a supporting citation. Since the documentary made national news and already has a wikipedia page, I thought it should be included.
--[[Special:Contributions/172.58.185.216|172.58.185.216]] ([[User talk:172.58.185.216|talk]]) 18:27, 16 February 2018 (UTC)
:: I have a problem with several aspects of this edit, which I regard as decidedly POV - the effort to paint Stewart in a more favorable light is pretty plain.
:: The "purge the county of undocumented immigrants" is the exact phrase used in the NatGeo news article; it's accurate, it's sourced, and the only reason to change that language is to make Stewart look better. I'm not aware of any Wikipedia policy that requires us to use the term "illegal immigrants" when the source says "undocumented immigrants." Please point out that official policy to me.
:: Saying "the cited source got this wrong" is a pretty clear example of [[WP:OR]]. We don't do that here, so your second change is DOA. Your original research also extends to your own misinterpretation of the statue you cited: it clearly says "if there is probable cause to believe such person is in violation of federal immigration law" but your text subtly changed that to "anyone detained on suspicion of wrongdoing." It's not "suspicion of wrongdoing", it's "I think this person might be an illegal, and that's enough to detain them even if there's no reason to believe they're doing anything against the law."
:: The business licenses addition, along with the source, is fine, and I will re-add it.
:: The WaPo source is fine.
:: The [[9500 Liberty]] addition is fine. [[User:Rockypedia|Rockypedia]] ([[User talk:Rockypedia|talk]]) 00:16, 17 February 2018 (UTC)
== More Edits Coming From Corey stewart’s Campaign ==
Can someone look up [[User talk:StopbeingBIAS]]? Just glancing at their edits, they e done everything from making changes to the 2018 Senate Wiki Page to adding in a bogus website attacking one of Corey’s stewart’s primary opponents to their Wikipedia page (and replacing their legitimate website with it in the process!)
My gut instinct is telling me that this is another case of Corey’s Stewart’s campaign creating Wikipedia accounts to meddle in an election he is running in.
Just check out contribs. I can provide the direct links if necessary.--[[Special:Contributions/2601:5C2:C500:4D3E:5877:496C:3E4E:3CA2|2601:5C2:C500:4D3E:5877:496C:3E4E:3CA2]] ([[User talk:2601:5C2:C500:4D3E:5877:496C:3E4E:3CA2|talk]]) 18:50, 14 April 2018 (UTC)
*"Never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake." —[[Napoleon]] <span style="font-family: Cambria;">[[User:Abductive|<span style="color: teal;">'''Abductive'''</span>]] ([[User talk:Abductive|reasoning]])</span> 07:34, 13 June 2018 (UTC)
== IP number keeps removing NYT description from lede ==
This text keeps getting removed: ''According to ''[[The New York Times]]'', Stewart "made his name attacking illegal immigrants and embracing emblems of the Confederacy."''[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Corey_Stewart_%28politician%29&type=revision&diff=845680854&oldid=845680722] [[User:Snooganssnoogans|Snooganssnoogans]] ([[User talk:Snooganssnoogans|talk]]) 12:26, 13 June 2018 (UTC)
== Requested move 20 July 2018 ==
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The result of the move request was: pages '''moved as requested''' per the discussion below; I have also added a hatnote to this article, but for the time being the disambiguation page has been retained at the proposed title, as it's not harming anything. [[User:Dekimasu|Dekimasu]]<small>[[User talk:Dekimasu|よ!]]</small> 20:09, 27 July 2018 (UTC)
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* [[:Corey Stewart (politician)]] → {{no redirect|Corey Stewart}}
* [[:Corey Stewart]] → {{no redirect|Corey Stewart (disambiguation)}}
– Likely primary topic in a [[WP:TWODABS]] situation. Subject was a relatively high-profile state politician even before his current nomination to a U.S. Senate seat, having drawn national attention during his previous bid for the gubernatorial nomination. The only other "Corey Stewart" is a perma-stub rugby player with a short career. Even over the longer term, [https://tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews/?project=en.wikipedia.org&platform=all-access&agent=user&start=2016-07-19&end=2018-07-19&pages=Corey_Stewart|Corey_Stewart_(politician)|Corey_Stewart_(rugby_league) this article gets an average of about 350 views per day; the rugby player averages 2 views per day]. I would also support moving this article and doing away with the disambiguation page altogether. [[User:BD2412|<span style="background:gold">'''''bd2412'''''</span>]] [[User talk:BD2412|'''T''']] 20:31, 20 July 2018 (UTC)
*'''Support''' per nom. Get rid of the DAB page per [[WP:TWODABS]]. — [[User talk:AjaxSmack|<span style="border:1px solid #93010b;background:#ef0000;padding:2px;color:#efe6e6;text-shadow:black 0.2em 0.2em 0.3em; font-family: Georgia;"> '''AjaxSmack''' </span>]] 18:25, 21 July 2018 (UTC)
*'''Support''' A stub should not take precedent over a Senate Candidate. -- [[User:Sleyece|Sleyece]] ([[User talk:Sleyece|talk]]) 01:32, 24 July 2018 (UTC)
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== Ties to white supremacists ==
An IP account removed content from the lede an hour after it was added (it's totally normal for an IP number to watchlist an article like that, right?), noting Stewart's controversial and widely reported ties to white supremacists. The body devotes considerable space to this, and major RS have run long in-depth stories on this issue, demonstrating first and foremost that it's [[WP:DUE]] and secondly that it belongs in the lede. The highest office that this man has held is 'Chairman of the Prince William Board of County Supervisors' yet national newspapers are devoting extensive space to him, in part due to his controversial ties to white supremacists. [[User:Snooganssnoogans|Snooganssnoogans]] ([[User talk:Snooganssnoogans|talk]]) 23:42, 20 September 2018 (UTC)
:That's a higher position than Beto O'Rourke has ever held. What explains his extensive coverage, also white supremacy? Justify the claims: {{tq|association with white supremacists}} and {{tq|association with outspoken racists and white supremacists}} which you added. He was associated with Nehlen as were other Republicans until Nehlen came out as a white supremacist at which point according to NYT Stewart disavowed him. I notice you didn't include that. Instead we have {{tq|In June 2018, Stewart said that he no longer considered Nehlen one of his heroes}}. Not a very fair summary. [[Special:Contributions/199.127.56.90|199.127.56.90]] ([[User talk:199.127.56.90|talk]]) 00:06, 21 September 2018 (UTC)
:: If O'Rourke's ties to white supremacists were the subject of regular reporting by national RS, you can bet your ass that it would feature prominently on his Wikipedia page. If you want to tweak language somewhere in the article to note that Stewart disavowed someone, you can do that. Instead, you opted to remove reliably sourced content. [[User:Snooganssnoogans|Snooganssnoogans]] ([[User talk:Snooganssnoogans|talk]]) 00:14, 21 September 2018 (UTC)
::: I said justify those claims not sidestep them. And don't restore without consensus because that's a serious charge and this is a BLP. [[Special:Contributions/199.127.56.90|199.127.56.90]] ([[User talk:199.127.56.90|talk]]) 00:19, 21 September 2018 (UTC)
:::: The content is all reliably sourced. It's weird how an IP account happens to revert an edit within the hour, use green for quotes and cite Wikipedia policy (even if erroneously). [[User:Snooganssnoogans|Snooganssnoogans]] ([[User talk:Snooganssnoogans|talk]]) 00:23, 21 September 2018 (UTC)
::::: Blah blah blah I can't defend my edits so I'll attack the editor. Engage with the content and sources or bug off. [[Special:Contributions/199.127.56.90|199.127.56.90]] ([[User talk:199.127.56.90|talk]]) 00:25, 21 September 2018 (UTC)
== Notability in lead ==
The [[MOS:OPENPARABIO|opening paragraph of a biography]] includes why a person is notable. The lead sentence should "[[Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Biography#Positions and roles|describe the person as they are commonly described in reliable sources.]]" Including "international trade attorney" in the first sentence of the lead is not supported by this guidance (especially as it ''precedes'' "politician"). Stewart is not notable as an international trade attorney and he is not commonly described as such in reliable sources. I think that sentence should be changed from this:
:'''Corey Alan Stewart''' (born August 1, 1968) is an American international trade attorney and politician currently serving his fourth term as at-large Chair of the [[Prince William Board of County Supervisors|Board of Supervisors]] of [[Prince William County, Virginia]].
to this:
:'''Corey Alan Stewart''' (born August 1, 1968) is an American politician currently serving his fourth term as at-large Chair of the [[Prince William Board of County Supervisors|Board of Supervisors]] of [[Prince William County, Virginia]].
Thoughts? -- [[User:Pemilligan|Pemilligan]] ([[User talk:Pemilligan|talk]]) 21:24, 27 September 2019 (UTC)
== Home ownership ==
cc {{u|Ike54321}} and {{u|Pemilligan}}
Just to document slightly more fully as keen to fully address the ToU implications - I agree with Pemilligan that the ownership of a [[Bel_Air_(Woodbridge,_Virginia)|home of historical significance]] is relevant to the article and merits inclusion. The web is littered with examples of there being coverage of his acquisition that merits us including it here - these being just two.[https://www.newyorker.com/news/benjamin-wallace-wells/corey-stewarts-virginia-restoration], [https://wtop.com/news/2012/05/pw-countys-stewart-new-owner-of-historic-mansion/]. There are clearly no privacy implications if the information is already in the public domain - and expressly so, given that one of those articles is him arranging a tour for a journalist. Best, <span style="background-color: white">[[User:Darren-M|<span style="color: purple">'''Darren-M'''</span>]] [[User talk:Darren-M|<span style="color: purple">talk</span>]]</span> 20:37, 19 June 2020 (UTC)
:Look, this is now documented and I have alerted you of this concern. If there is an attack on his family and his place of residence was obtained through the aforementioned Wikipedia page, that's on your hands. - [[User:Ike54321|Ike54321]] ([[User talk:Ike54321|talk]]) 23:05, 19 June 2020 (UTC)
::Thanks for responding. I don't really see this as being any different to us confirming (at [[Anmer_Hall]]) where [[Prince William]] lives there, to be truthful. Notable location, notable person, information in public domain, clear consent from the person for the latter, no issue as I see it. Best, <span style="background-color: white">[[User:Darren-M|<span style="color: purple">'''Darren-M'''</span>]] [[User talk:Darren-M|<span style="color: purple">talk</span>]]</span>
- Thank you for your response, however, I believe this to be more than simply a privacy concern, this is one of safety. Mr. Stewart is a relatively well known figure in Northern Virginia and a controversial one at that. Furthermore, the articles you mentioned were published while Mr. Stewart was a rather "small-time" public official (He was the chairman of PWC and had not yet dabbled in Statewide politics). Corey Stewart is no longer a career politician, he retired as of early 2019. Why is this relevant? Well, I think it's rather obvious. Mr. Stewart was not this "fire-brand," controversial politician at the time of these publications, something such as "doxing" or violent attacks were not major concerns. The public availability held within archived web-articles absolutely does not justify the publishing on a contemporary web page such as Wikipedia. In my view, it is incredibly irresponsible to leave the place of residence on the page. His home is a private residence, just as mine, just as yours. - [[User:Ike54321|Ike54321]] ([[User talk:Ike54321|talk]]) 00:19, 20 June 2020 (UTC)
Copying across a comment from my talk page (introduced as 'Privacy Question / Concern'), to ensure discussion is in one central place:
:Hello Darren,
:I saw your response and was curious, what if the Public Official doesn't consent to their place of residence being published on Wikipedia?
:Thanks - [[User:Ike54321|Ike54321]] ([[User talk:Ike54321|talk]]) 00:26, 20 June 2020 (UTC)
::{{u|Ike54321}} I believe the following would then apply, from [[Wikipedia:Biographies_of_living_persons#Legal_issues]]:
<blockquote>'''Legal issues'''
Subjects who have legal or other serious concerns about material they find about themselves on a Wikipedia page, whether in a BLP or elsewhere, may contact the Wikimedia Foundation's [[Wikipedia:Volunteer response team|volunteer response team]] (known as OTRS). Please e-mail
{{strong|[mailto:info-en-q@wikimedia.org {{nospam|info-en-q|wikimedia.org}}]}} with a link to the article and details of the problem; for more information on how to get an error corrected, see {{strong|[[Wikipedia:Contact us - Subjects|here]]}}. It is usually better to ask for help rather than trying to change the material yourself.
As noted above, individuals involved in a significant legal or other off-wiki dispute with the subject of a biographical article are strongly discouraged from editing that article.</blockquote>
::Best, <span style="background-color: white">[[User:Darren-M|<span style="color: purple">'''Darren-M'''</span>]] [[User talk:Darren-M|<span style="color: purple">talk</span>]]</span> 00:39, 20 June 2020 (UTC)
Thanks for the help / clarification Darren! Truly appreciated. [[User:Ike54321|Ike54321]] ([[User talk:Ike54321|talk]]) 19:57, 20 June 2020 (UTC)
== Strange to describe a 50ish yr-old as a "former" or "retired" politician ==
I don't think this is a necessary qualifier. [[User:Snooganssnoogans|Snooganssnoogans]] ([[User talk:Snooganssnoogans|talk]]) 21:16, 20 June 2020 (UTC)
:{{u|Snooganssnoogans}}, how would you approach it? Sources[https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/corey-stewart-to-quit-politics-just-isnt-exciting-for-me-anymore] seem relatively clear that he has 'retired', so I do think a qualifier is needed, irrespective of his age. <span style="background-color: white">[[User:Darren-M|<span style="color: purple">'''Darren-M'''</span>]] [[User talk:Darren-M|<span style="color: purple">talk</span>]]</span> 21:26, 20 June 2020 (UTC)
== Retired? ==
Kindof a weird article here.. 12 sources in the lead section and not one of them indicates that Stewart will never return to politics. [[Washington Post]] and [[Washington Examiner]] articles both clearly indicate he's quitting politics “for the foreseeable future”, not permanently. Clearly he's no longer Chairman of the Prince William Board of County Supervisors, but [[WP:SYN]] currently exists here when we indicate he'll never be a political player.. [[User:Sucker for All|Sucker for All]] ([[User talk:Sucker for All|talk]]) 08:41, 15 September 2021 (UTC)
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