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*Support. That's an awesome picture. --[[User:Prisonblues|Prisonblues]] 01:50, 20 Jul 2004 (UTC)
*Support. [[User:Lupin|Lupin]] 11:55, 20 Jul 2004 (UTC)
*Support. [[User:Avala|[[User:Avala|Avala]]|[[User talk:Avala|<fontspan colorstyle="color:#882222;">★</fontspan>]]]] 14:03, 20 Jul 2004 (UTC)
*Wow. Support -- [[User:Chris 73|Chris 73]] | [[User talk:Chris 73|Talk]] 23:33, 21 Jul 2004 (UTC)
*Support. ''Very'' impressive. No wonder John wanted to take a picture of it. :-) -- [[User:ChrisO|ChrisO]] 18:10, 22 Jul 2004 (UTC)
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***Much nicer. Support. [[User:Lupin|Lupin]] 06:22, 21 Jul 2004 (UTC)
*Support - [[User:Bevo|Bevo]] 02:14, 24 Jul 2004 (UTC)
*Support [[User:Avala|[[User:Avala|Avala]]|[[User talk:Avala|<fontspan colorstyle="color:#882222;">★</fontspan>]]]] 20:22, 29 Jul 2004 (UTC)
*Object. Technically excellent, but far too complex for a Pic o' the Day. The Picture of the Day needs to be able to be recognizable in a single glance, with the 'oh wow' coming after. [[User:Dwindrim|Denni]][[User_talk:Dwindrim|<fontspan colorstyle="color:#228822;">☯</fontspan>]] 03:12, 2004 Aug 1 (UTC)
**Not all [[Wikipedia:Featured pictures]] become a [[Template:Pic of the day/Archive|Pic of the Day]]. - [[User:Bevo|Bevo]] 13:31, 1 Aug 2004 (UTC)
*It wouldn't be my first choice when selecting the picture of the day, but that shouldn't exclude it from being a featured image. [[User:Angela|Angela]][[user talk:Angela|.]] 20:26, Aug 2, 2004 (UTC)
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*Support - totally awesome - [[User:Gaz|Gaz]] 00:35, 24 Jul 2004 (UTC)
*Support - very good photograph. [[User:SamH|SamH]] 13:22, 24 Jul 2004 (UTC)
*Support - a classic! [[User:Dwindrim|Denni]][[User_talk:Dwindrim|<fontspan colorstyle="color:#228822;">☯</fontspan>]] 20:28, 2004 Jul 25 (UTC)
*Support - BTW there's a video of that event. When will Wikipedia agree on an video format ?
**When Ogg Tarkin's ready ;-) [[User:Jdforrester|James F.]] [[User_talk:Jdforrester|(talk)]] 04:09, 26 Jul 2004 (UTC)
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* Support. [[User:Theon|Theon]] 16:34, Jul 28, 2004 (UTC)
* Support. [[User:Jdforrester|James F.]] [[User_talk:Jdforrester|(talk)]] 15:51, 29 Jul 2004 (UTC)
*Object. While this is a nice image, it is hardly spectacular. A quick internet search will yield many more impressive images of the sun. Try [http://helios.gsfc.nasa.gov/sun.html TRACE] for just a start. [[User:Dwindrim|Denni]][[User_talk:Dwindrim|<fontspan colorstyle="color:#228822;">☯</fontspan>]] 03:06, 2004 Aug 1 (UTC)
*Object. Doesn't grab me. [[User:Lupin|Lupin]] 12:00, 1 Aug 2004 (UTC)
*Object. Decent picture of the sun, but not "brilliant" in remarkable way.
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** Colors of the flame, the balloon, or the whole photo? I just don't understand... Can you elaborate? - [[User:Randyoo|Randyoo]] 21:42, 10 Aug 2004 (UTC)
*** I've reconsidered and changed my note to just a comment. It's probably just the specific colors of that particular balloon that make it seem to me that it should look more "lit-up" than what my eyes see. - [[User:Bevo|Bevo]] 04:28, 11 Aug 2004 (UTC)
*Support. [[User:Dwindrim|Denni]][[User_talk:Dwindrim|<fontspan colorstyle="color:#228822;">☯</fontspan>]] 02:15, 2004 Aug 10 (UTC)
*Support (I guess it just took me some time to get to like it! 8-) - [[User:Bevo|Bevo]] 20:31, 11 Aug 2004 (UTC)
*Promoted +4 [[User:Sverdrup|<span style=" font-family: Optima, sans-serif; border-bottom: 1px solid blue;">[[User:Sverdrup|❝'''S'''verdrup❞]]</span>]] 22:15, 11 Aug 2004 (UTC)
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This is stunning, formidable, soaring, and very impressive. The gray London sky is a complement. Created by [[User:ChrisO|ChrisO]]. --[[User:Merovingian|<fontspan colorstyle="color:green;">Merovingian</fontspan>]]<big>✍</big>[[User talk:Merovingian|<fontspan colorstyle="color:orange;">Talk</fontspan>]] 17:14, Jul 27, 2004 (UTC)
* Support (original). [[User:Greudin|Greudin]]
* Oppose (original). This picture, while technically fine, is not outstanding enough to be featured. Its just kind of blah. [[User:Theon|Theon]] 16:33, Jul 28, 2004 (UTC)
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* Oppose (original). Composition is great, and the sky interesting, but the (all too common) diffuse lighting afforded by the ever-cloudy Londongrad sky makes for an unappealing overall tonal sameness (which is dweebspeek for "blah"). The same photo taken on a relatively clear day (forecast for this weekend looks excellent, btw) in the early morning / late evening time (when tangential light should pick out the detail better) would be excellent. -- [[User:Finlay McWalter|Finlay McWalter]] | [[User talk:Finlay McWalter | Talk]] 00:49, 29 Jul 2004 (UTC)
** OK, I'll have another go to see if I can capture it in different lighting. :-) -- [[User:ChrisO|ChrisO]] 07:38, 29 Jul 2004 (UTC)
*** I'd like to see any new photos, but I still like the (original) one nominated, for exactly the reasons that [[User:Merovingian|<fontspan colorstyle="color:green;">Merovingian</fontspan>]]<big>✍</big>[[User talk:Merovingian|<fontspan colorstyle="color:orange;">Talk</fontspan>]] presented - [[User:Bevo|Bevo]] 18:26, 29 Jul 2004 (UTC)
* Support (alternative, but not original). The top of the left-hand tower is included in the alternative image, and it appears straighter too. - [[User:MykReeve|MykReeve]] 18:58, 30 Jul 2004 (UTC)
** I've just found this old one that I took of the Abbey on a Summer evening after work in 2002 which might serve as an alternative, as it has a contrasting blue sky behind, is a larger image, is taken from a more central viewpoint, and shows the full west front down to the ground. Eagle-eyed viewers will also spot the top of the Clock Tower of the Palace of Westminster peeking into the lower-left hand corner of the image. - [[User:MykReeve|MykReeve]] 15:17, 29 Jul 2004 (UTC)
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|[[Image:Eye_and_parliament_medium.jpg|frame|left|The London Eye and the Palace of Westminster]]
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This part of london is always visually impressive but there are no featured pictures of it. This is one of my favourite (self-nomination). [[User:Ed g2s|<fontspan facestyle="font-family:verdana;">ed g2s</fontspan>]] • [[User talk:ed_g2s|<fontspan facestyle="font-family:verdana;">talk</fontspan>]] 02:47, 31 Jul 2004 (UTC)
* Oppose. I strongly doubt the real wheel is leaning to the right! - [[User:Arpingstone|Adrian Pingstone]] 08:15, 31 Jul 2004 (UTC)
**Hi Adrian this is simply perspective, have a look Westminster Abbey it seems to me that the towers should be vertical :) - [[User:Ericd|Ericd]] 22:29, 31 Jul 2004 (UTC)
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***OK, here it is - [[User:Arpingstone|Adrian Pingstone]] 17:20, 1 Aug 2004 (UTC)
***Humble apologies to Ed for saying I could correct the lean. In my "corrected" pic I paid too much attention to getting the wheel upright and didn't notice the distortion on the Millbank Tower and elsewhere. But I'm afraid I still oppose for the reasons given by others - [[User:Arpingstone|Adrian Pingstone]] 08:30, 2 Aug 2004 (UTC)
**I rotated the original so that the centre vertical was vertical. Any other verticals that aren't so are because of perspective. This effect is part of the photo - and I don't think that it should be corrected. It creates an image in which proportions are skewed, and also it adds blur to the full size image. [[User:Ed g2s|<fontspan facestyle="font-family:verdana;">ed g2s</fontspan>]] • [[User talk:ed_g2s|<fontspan facestyle="font-family:verdana;">talk</fontspan>]] 23:34, 1 Aug 2004 (UTC)
* Support. Nice composition, helps show the subject in question in context, good colours. It's maybe a bit overexposed (and a bit motion-blurry) but not seriously. I'm also impressed with the nice big size of the full image, and the informative content of the image page. -- [[User:Finlay McWalter|Finlay McWalter]] | [[User talk:Finlay McWalter | Talk]] 22:53, 31 Jul 2004 (UTC)
*Support. The colour and lights give this image some power and dynamism that might otherwise be lacking. Perhaps slightly overexposed, but I think this adds to the effect. [[User:Peregrine981|Peregrine981]] 15:40, Aug 1, 2004 (UTC)
* Oppose. Larger image is overexposed and shows motion-blurring. Not up to featured status to my mind. - [[User:MykReeve|MykReeve]] 18:50, 1 Aug 2004 (UTC)
** I tried a lots of different exposure times. The other shots which show the Palace (and other lit objects) a bit sharper have a fairly dull black background. Personally I'd rather have an exciting background. The image was taken on a tripod, the only motion-blurring I can see is on the Eye which was rotating at the time, as it tends to do. Have a look at the spindle of the eye, its quite sharp IMO. [[User:Ed g2s|<fontspan facestyle="font-family:verdana;">ed g2s</fontspan>]] • [[User talk:ed_g2s|<fontspan facestyle="font-family:verdana;">talk</fontspan>]] 23:34, 1 Aug 2004 (UTC)
* Comment: I was rather pleased with the result (I fumbled about, ruining the shot, and supplying the tripod {{mono|;-)}}); the result of the skew that Adrian did... doesn't look terribly good to me. It's rather oddly distorted (note the Millbank Tower, for example: vertical in the original, leaning-tower-of-Pisa-like in the modified form, or the Clock Tower and the Victoria Tower: they seem to be leaning towards each other most precipitously). Quite apart from anything, it's rather unfaithful to the actual scene, and I'd suggest that the view can probably get their head around basic perspective... As for the 'blur', the effect with a rather shorter exposure can be seen with [http://jdforrester.dnsalias.net/photolibrary/views/df17b970fd34a5eb642499f58b13a119.view.jpg this earlier attempt] at [http://jdforrester.dnsalias.net/photolibrary/views/8b32310c831e8487c7ff5a9ecee0e32e.view.jpg the original image] - the alternative seems to be rather much the duller image, bereft of interest in the sky, &c. [[User:Jdforrester|James F.]] [[User_talk:Jdforrester|(talk)]] 00:37, 2 Aug 2004 (UTC)
**Comment: I marginally prefer the earlier attempt, as I don't think that sodium-orange cloudsky is really worth having. But indeed (having taken about six dozen nighttime Wallace Monument shots, and none that I like) "correct exposure" for floodlight shots is particularly subjective. Comparing the original and Adrian's verticalised one, the latter looks subtly "wrong" to me (but that may be just because I've seen the other). -- [[User:Finlay McWalter|Finlay McWalter]] | [[User talk:Finlay McWalter | Talk]] 01:03, 2 Aug 2004 (UTC)
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===[[Media:Fairbanks,Alaska First Settlers.jpg|Fairbanks, Alaska]]===
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|[[Image:Fairbanks,Alaska First Settlers.jpg|thumb|left|Fairbanks, Alaska]]
| GFDL. Uploaded by [[User:MarkBurnett|MarkBurnett]]. Clear image. Non-overcast sky. Makes the otherwise boring [[User:Rambot|Rambot]] [[Fairbanks, Alaska]] article a lot better.
* Support. [[User:Angela|Angela]][[user talk:Angela|.]] 13:17, Aug 6, 2004 (UTC)
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** I don't think it should be rotated. If you look at the building in the background, that appears to be straight. [[User:Angela|Angela]][[user talk:Angela|.]] 01:36, Aug 7, 2004 (UTC)
* Oppose, the harsh lighting that day made it very hard to get an extremely good photo; there's too much detail lost in shadow. - [[User:Bevo|Bevo]] 13:55, 7 Aug 2004 (UTC)
*Oppose. Verticality should be determined by the main focus of the picture. These folk are clearly left-leaning, and it's time they were straightened up. The fact that they also lead very shadowy lives makes it hard to trust this image. [[User:Dwindrim|Denni]][[User_talk:Dwindrim|<fontspan colorstyle="color:#228822;">☯</fontspan>]] 01:24, 2004 Aug 20 (UTC)
 
*Not promoted +1 -2 -- [[User:Chris 73|Chris 73]] [[User talk:Chris 73|Talk]] 09:38, 20 Aug 2004 (UTC)
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* Support. [[User:Cribcage|Cribcage]] 23:53, 15 Aug 2004 (UTC)
* Support. [[User:Chris 73|Chris 73]] [[User talk:Chris 73|Talk]] 03:57, 19 Aug 2004 (UTC)
* Support. You almost don't need an article to feel satisfied. [[User:Dwindrim|Denni]][[User_talk:Dwindrim|<fontspan colorstyle="color:#228822;">☯</fontspan>]] 01:33, 2004 Aug 20 (UTC)
 
*Promoted +7 -0 -- [[User:Chris 73|Chris 73]] [[User talk:Chris 73|Talk]] 09:38, 20 Aug 2004 (UTC)
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*Support. - [[User:MykReeve|MykReeve]] 22:59, 5 Aug 2004 (UTC)
*Oppose. Great subject, poor composition. [[User:Lupin|Lupin]] 09:03, 6 Aug 2004 (UTC)
*Oppose. Lighting is everything. [[User:Dwindrim|Denni]][[User_talk:Dwindrim|<fontspan colorstyle="color:#228822;">☯</fontspan>]] 00:27, 2004 Aug 9 (UTC)
* Oppose. [[User:Cribcage|Cribcage]] 00:06, 16 Aug 2004 (UTC)
 
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* Support. [[User:Angela|Angela]][[user talk:Angela|.]] 21:08, Aug 5, 2004 (UTC)
* Support, excellent. Why don't my panoramas turn out like this? It's a bloody conspiracy, I tell you. -- [[User:Finlay McWalter|Finlay McWalter]] | [[User talk:Finlay McWalter | Talk]] 21:27, 5 Aug 2004 (UTC)
**How did he take a panoramic picture without turning the camera? Check the detail. Photographer in the visor. - [[User:Texture|<fontspan colorstyle="color:red;">Tεx</fontspan>]][[User Talk:Texture|<fontspan colorstyle="color:blue;">τ</fontspan>]][[User:Texture|<fontspan colorstyle="color:red;">urε</fontspan><!-- Ask me about my turtles -->]] 21:35, 5 Aug 2004 (UTC)
***No, I mean I just never get the stitch-o-matic program to work well. Taking the pictures properly and then stitching them together correctly is ''hard'', and Jawed is a master of it (and I'm not). -- [[User:Finlay McWalter|Finlay McWalter]] | [[User talk:Finlay McWalter | Talk]] 23:04, 5 Aug 2004 (UTC)
*Support. - [[User:MykReeve|MykReeve]] 22:59, 5 Aug 2004 (UTC)
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*Support. [[User:Jdforrester|James F.]] [[User_talk:Jdforrester|(talk)]] 12:28, 6 Aug 2004 (UTC)
* Oppose, I'd prefer the entire bird, not just the head. <s>Also, the attribution needs to be clarified: see http://arizonaes.fws.gov/images/USFWS_Bald_Eagle1.JPG </s> I've modified the attribution to credit US Fish and Wildlife Service/Mike Lockhart- [[User:Bevo|Bevo]] 14:12, 7 Aug 2004 (UTC)
*Oppose. Poorly balanced, and a head alone is not adequate. [[User:Dwindrim|Denni]][[User_talk:Dwindrim|<fontspan colorstyle="color:#228822;">☯</fontspan>]] 00:24, 2004 Aug 9 (UTC)
* Support. [[User:Cribcage|Cribcage]] 23:55, 15 Aug 2004 (UTC)
*Oppose. Make it bigger! [[User:Allyunion|Allyunion]] 09:43, 20 Aug 2004 (UTC)
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* Support - [[User:Bevo|Bevo]] 13:33, 7 Aug 2004 (UTC)
* Object. I love Pollinator's photos as much as the next guy, but we don't help ourselves by using photos in thumbnail size like that, and I know that Poll. is doing this intentionally. He's a professional photographer and also wants to make money with his work. That's alright, but IMHO that leaves us with photos that are technically excellent, but barely show any detail, and you can completely forget about a print edition with photos of that size. I think a featured photo should at least approximate printable resolutions.--[[User:Eloquence|Eloquence]][[User:Eloquence/CP|*]]
*Support [[User:Avala|[[User:Avala|Avala]]|[[User talk:Avala|<fontspan colorstyle="color:#882222;">★</fontspan>]]]] 21:49, 11 Aug 2004 (UTC)
* Oppose. I agree with Elo, we need a bigger version. -- [[User:Solitude|Solitude]] 03:05, 15 Aug 2004 (UTC)
* Support. [[User:Cribcage|Cribcage]] 23:52, 15 Aug 2004 (UTC)
* Support. I like it! -- [[User:Infrogmation|Infrogmation]] 18:29, 18 Aug 2004 (UTC)
*Oppose. Very nice picture and worthy under any other condition, but pixel famine rules this one out for me. I can appreciate Pollinator's concern, but I had to bite my lip and make my pictures bigger too. Either you contribute or you don't. Half-measures just make for a lousy image someplace along the line. [[User:Dwindrim|Denni]][[User_talk:Dwindrim|<fontspan colorstyle="color:#228822;">☯</fontspan>]] 01:31, 2004 Aug 20 (UTC)
* Promoted +8 -3 - [[User:Bevo|[[Bevo|Bevo]]]] 08:20, 2 Sep 2004 (UTC)
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| GFDL. taken by [[User:ChrisO|ChrisO]]. Beautiful scenery. The picture seems to combine all the features of the landscape --the country road, the meadows, the trees, the mountain line-- in one single photo. [[User:Sanders muc|Simon A.]] 18:26, 12 Aug 2004 (UTC)
* Support. [[User:Cribcage|Cribcage]] 23:50, 15 Aug 2004 (UTC)
*Oppose. Sorry, I'm just not astonished by this photo. A couple of seemingly unconnected mountains, a road, and some some what, vinyards? Hard to tell. Maybe I'm jaded, living as I do at the foot of the Rocky Mountains, but this picture tells me more about where I want to be than where I am. [[User:Dwindrim|Denni]][[User_talk:Dwindrim|<fontspan colorstyle="color:#228822;">☯</fontspan>]] 01:20, 2004 Aug 20 (UTC)
:The Alpilles aren't quite on the same scale as the Rockies. :-) What you see in the image is the base of the mountains (foreground), foothills (middle distance) and the two main peaks of the eastern Alpilles (background). Calling the Alpilles mountains at all is pushing it a bit, to be honest, as the entire chain could easily fit into the Greater New York area and the highest point is 10ft lower than the Empire State Building. However... -- [[User:ChrisO|ChrisO]] 22:59, 20 Aug 2004 (UTC)
* Oppose. The variety of the content is interesting, but having said that, none of the constituents in the photo is featured in any way that makes this photo a good candidate for becoming a featured picture. - [[User:Bevo|[[Bevo|Bevo]]]] 12:54, 21 Aug 2004 (UTC)
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| [[GFDL]] image by [[User:Sverdrup|Sverdrup]]. Beautiful picture used in [[Rondane National Park]].
* Support. [[User:Angela|Angela]][[user talk:Angela|.]] 12:21, Aug 14, 2004 (UTC)
* Support. [[User:Avala|[[User:Avala|Avala]]|[[User talk:Avala|<fontspan colorstyle="color:#882222;">★</fontspan>]]]] 20:00, 14 Aug 2004 (UTC)
* Support. Gripping shot. -- [[User:Solitude|Solitude]] 03:03, 15 Aug 2004 (UTC)
* Support. [[User:Cribcage|Cribcage]] 23:49, 15 Aug 2004 (UTC)
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**That can be tricky -- this fall is not large nor famous, and has only the name that we who know about it call it (which is 'the mountain shower' in [[Norwegian language|no.]]). [[User:Sverdrup|<span style=" font-family: Optima, sans-serif; border-bottom: 1px solid blue;">[[User:Sverdrup|❝'''S'''verdrup❞]]</span>]] 04:19, 19 Aug 2004 (UTC) (added: I forgot, the stream itself has ofcourse a name that I can use.)
*Support (but could you add more caption to the image page?) [[User:Chris 73|Chris 73]] [[User talk:Chris 73|Talk]] 03:54, 19 Aug 2004 (UTC)
*Oppose. A pretty standard snapshot. Not bad as snapshots go, but not great either. My primary objection (unfixable as it stands) is the abrupt transition from soft (sky) to hard (rock and waterfall). The photograph should also have been taken at a lightly slower shutter speed to smooth the water a bit. It is not liquid but rigid in this picture. [[User:Dwindrim|Denni]][[User_talk:Dwindrim|<fontspan colorstyle="color:#228822;">☯</fontspan>]] 01:15, 2004 Aug 20 (UTC)
* Oppose. It's out of focus. - [[User:Bevo|[[Bevo|Bevo]]]] 12:49, 21 Aug 2004 (UTC)
* Oppose. Out of focus, lifeless (sorry!) and just another waterfall - [[User:Arpingstone|Adrian Pingstone]] 08:20, 22 Aug 2004 (UTC)
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| Self nominating. This view of the continental divide from one of the most visited and therefore most familiar part of [[Rocky Mountain National Park]], with the headwaters of the Big Thompson River in the foreground, illustrates the article on the national park. - [[User:Kbh3rd|Kbh3rd]] 15:37, 14 Aug 2004 (UTC)
* Support. [[User:Angela|Angela]] 19:55, Aug 14, 2004 (UTC)
* Support. [[User:Avala|[[User:Avala|Avala]]|[[User talk:Avala|<fontspan colorstyle="color:#882222;">★</fontspan>]]]] 20:00, 14 Aug 2004 (UTC)
* Oppose. I'm not sure what it is, but the picture does not feel alive to me. -- [[User:Solitude|Solitude]] 03:02, 15 Aug 2004 (UTC)
* Support. [[User:Cribcage|Cribcage]] 23:48, 15 Aug 2004 (UTC)