Nothing Special   »   [go: up one dir, main page]
Wikipedia

Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 October 29

< Wikipedia:Categories for discussion | Log

This is an old revision of this page, as edited by Marcocapelle (talk | contribs) at 06:50, 30 October 2024 (→Category:Cities and towns in Kiphire district: Dual merge). The present address (URL) is a permanent link to this revision, which may differ significantly from the current revision.

< October 28
October 30 >

October 29

Category:Buildings and structures by year of demolition

Nominator's rationale: This category branch was originally intended to be the opposite of 'Category:Buildings and structures by year of completion', i.e. to categorise buildings by the date they ceased to exist. However, the root category Category:Demolished buildings and structures at the top now indicates 'that were deliberately demolished'. Indeed, demolition normally implies cases where a building has been deliberately demolished by humans. However, buildings can also be destroyed by accidental fire, natural disaster, or simply crumbling from old age. In the current form, however, all these cases should not be included in this branch. But there are no other "by date" alternatives for them, so they are probably placed in this category anyway, even though the title contradicts that. I think this branch is unnecessarily narrow, and it would be right to expand it to include any kind of building destruction. By the way, on Wiki Commons these categories are already titled as "destroyed". Solidest (talk) 23:21, 29 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Buildings and structures by decade of demolition

Nominator's rationale: Same as above. Solidest (talk) 23:24, 29 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Buildings and structures by century of demolition

Nominator's rationale: Same as above. Solidest (talk) 23:24, 29 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Golden Raspberry Award winners

Nominator's rationale: This and variations have been deleted in the past per WP:OCAWARD, may even qualify as a speedy? See Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2022_January_22#Category:Golden_Raspberry_Award_winners, Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2010_November_22#Category:Worst_Actor_Golden_Raspberry_Award_winners, Zaathras (talk) 22:15, 29 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Why delete something like this? There are many people who have won the Razzies and I just want to list who has won at least one of them. Vinnylospo (talk) 22:18, 29 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Strong Keep I don't see why we should get rid of it because it was removed in the past. Vinnylospo (talk) 22:29, 29 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
That is literally a criteria for speedy deletion Template:Db-g4, which even bypasses the need of a discussion such as this. Be grateful you were granted the courtesy of one. Zaathras (talk) 22:41, 29 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
ok Vinnylospo (talk) 22:43, 29 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:John Steinbeck Award recipients

Nominator's rationale: WP:OCAWARD: Seems like a relatively niche award and receiving it is not a defining characteristic for the vast majority (if not all) of the recipients (the award is not even mentioned in the article for most of them). Felida97 (talk) 21:04, 29 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Ikusaka, Nagano

Nominator's rationale: Category containing only the main article, an an article about a national park, both of which are already appropriately categorised. AusLondonder (talk) 20:51, 29 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Useful category, for grouping of articles about Japanese municipalities, with links also to equivalent categories in other language Wikipedias. Please find something else to do rather than (proposal of) deletion of useful content and wasting of time. Same for other Japanese municipality-related listings here by the same User, Maculosae tegmine lyncis (talk) 23:41, 29 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Cities and towns in Kiphire district

Nominator's rationale: Category containing just one article. Unhelpful for navigation. Merge to parent, already categorised in other parent. AusLondonder (talk) 20:41, 29 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep: Can I understand the rational for merging? If it is because there is only one related article, then do we have any guidelines saying we shouldn't create a category with one article and with the possibility of inclusion of many more articles as and when they are created? Such creation helps users to categorise easily instead of creating the articles in a broader category.
It's good to be streamlined rather than waiting for symptoms to appear to take actions. Pls note, I am not saying we should create empty categories! Thaejas (talk) 05:34, 30 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Artists represented by Shannon Associates

Nominator's rationale: WP:NOTDEF: The talent agency by whom an artist is represented/managed is not defining charateristic (the talent agency doesn't have an article either). Felida97 (talk) 19:01, 29 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Films with a limited theatrical release

Nominator's rationale: Is the fact that a film had a limited theatrical release a defining characteristic? DonIago (talk) 14:36, 29 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Modular firearms

Nominator's rationale: There is zero reasoning behind what firearms are included here - almost every modern firearm would be deemed "modular" under the reasoning given yet only a select few are included here. A completely nonsense list - an example of LISTCRUFT. Elshad (talk) 14:14, 29 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Christianity in Sussex

Nominator's rationale: Merge and redirect. Most content is at the level of East Sussex and West Sussex, so these are not currently helpful for navigation. Leave redirects to discourage re-creation. – Fayenatic London 11:59, 29 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Indian People's Theatre Association people

Nominator's rationale: The revised text appears to be more appropriate and conveys a better understanding of the category. Sarvagyana guru (talk) 07:58, 29 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete, not a defining characteristic. This is without prjudice to creating a chairs or activists category if they are defining characteristics. Marcocapelle (talk) 18:12, 29 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete instead per WP:NOTDEF. If kept, oppose renaming for two reasons: 1. Abbreviations should be avoided (see WP:CATNAME; I don't think this falls under "acronyms that have become the official, or generally used, name (such as NATO)", evidenced by the title of the corresponding main article Indian People's Theatre Association); 2. (assuming WP:OCASSOC doesn't apply) while for this kind of category the naming schemes "People associated with..." and "... people" would be possible, it seems like if the organization name includes the word "association", only the latter is currently used (see search 1 and search 2), probably for stylistic reasons. Felida97 (talk) 19:15, 29 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Balloons (entertainment)

Nominator's rationale: Mixture of various topics with an odd disambiguation. Main section in Balloon no longer exists, instead having multiple subsections about various uses for decoration or toys. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 04:56, 29 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Nineveh

Nominator's rationale: This is not a people category per WP:COPSEP. Subcat can then be added to Category:Archaeologists by region of study. --woodensuperman 12:56, 21 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: What should the new category be called?
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 02:18, 29 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Joseon scholar-officials

Nominator's rationale: I think we should split this category, as a non-defining intersection. There's no parent scholar-officials Mason (talk) 02:44, 14 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: I do not see Marcocapelle's comment as an objection to the split – if you (Marcocapelle or just a random passerby) object please say so :)
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 23:22, 21 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Thoughts on the objections?
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 02:17, 29 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Pitcairn Islands people convicted of rape

Nominator's rationale: I think we should broaden this category because there's no parent category Pitcairn Islands criminals, and I think that creating a parent category right now would just be redudant Mason (talk) 01:04, 14 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I think the category is legitimate, although there are questions about what categories it should be under. I now think it shouldn't be under "British people convicted of rape" because people from the British Overseas Territories aren't classified as British people on Wikipedia, there are various categories relating to these territories. PatGallacher (talk) 13:52, 14 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Merge to Category:Pitcairn Islands criminals and Category:Sex offenders from British Overseas Territories. Pitcairn Islands the least populous territory in the world, with only 35 people as of the latest census. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 19:53, 18 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Different suggestions; which one should we go with?
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 23:34, 21 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Thoughts on Johnbod's comment?
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 02:16, 29 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Category:Washington Football Team currentteam parameter articles

Nominator's rationale: Superseded by Category:Washington Commanders currentteam parameter articles, the current name of the team. ~ Dissident93 (talk) 16:24, 14 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep as a redirect. Omnis Scientia (talk) 23:24, 14 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
There should never be any further use of this since the team was renamed. There are no other categories for old NFL team names either. ~ Dissident93 (talk) 23:50, 21 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Was not tagged; I will do so. Thoughts on the suggestion to keep a redirect?
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 23:19, 21 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: See above relisting comment: Keep as a redirect?
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 02:13, 29 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. This category seems to only be added by Template:Infobox NFL biography, if that is the case, not only is a redirect not useful, it's completely pointless and a misunderstanding of why that category exists. If it's being added by something else (which isn't documented or linked from), then please explain. Gonnym (talk) 20:17, 29 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:NCAA Division I men's basketball tournament Final Four venues

Nominator's rationale: Per WP:OCVENUE. This is a clear example of sorting a venue by an event it hosted. User:Namiba 22:59, 21 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Merge or delete?
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 02:13, 29 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Georgia Tech Yellow Jackets basketball venues

Nominator's rationale: A small category which does not help navigation. All articles are already in basketball venues category so a dual merge is not needed. User:Namiba 22:47, 21 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Merge or delete?
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 02:13, 29 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:GMA Network personalities

Nominator's rationale: "Personalities" is redundant with people. There is no reason to have this category which implies to cover "actors and singers" when "people" apply just fine. Hariboneagle927 (talk) 09:06, 21 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Thoughts on FL's comment?
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 02:12, 29 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:ABS-CBN personalities

Nominator's rationale: "Personalities" is redundant with people. There is no reason to have this category which implies to cover "actors and singers" when "people" apply just fine. Hariboneagle927 (talk) 09:05, 21 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Thoughts on FL's comment?
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 02:12, 29 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Retrieved from "https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2024_October_29&oldid=1254276020"