Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2007 May 6

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May 6

NEW NOMINATIONS

Category:Redirects from New York City area bus labels

Propose renaming Category:Redirects from New York City area bus labels to Category:Redirects from New York City area bus routes or Category:Redirects from New York City bus routes

Nominator's Rationale: Rename, "Labels" doesn't sound like the proper terminology. kingboyk 21:06, 6 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Star formation

Delete — Category had a single page entry and a template. These have been relocated to the Stellar evolution template. Even the main article page for the category was not categorized under this name. The Category:Stellar evolution only has 29 members, so deleting this sub-category shouldn't cause any heartburn. RJH (talk) 20:02, 6 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Shared IP cats

Delete all. With the exception of Category:Shared IP addresses from educational institutions, these four are the only subcats of Category:Shared IP addresses. I don't see any reason why these are subcategorized. All remaining pages should be upmerged. --- RockMFR 17:22, 6 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Pages with special characters

Delete. Now empty (except for the below cat). Formerly was populated by a template, but is no longer. Everything else that was in the category was recently deleted. No need for this self-reference. --- RockMFR 17:05, 6 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Articles containing Indic text

Delete. Now empty. Formerly was populated by a template, but is no longer. No need for this self-reference. --- RockMFR 17:05, 6 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Websites running the LiveJournal engine

Delete. Contains one article (LiveJournal). Doesn't seem to have any chance of being expanded. --- RockMFR 16:59, 6 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Jericho Images

Propose renaming Category:Jericho Images to Category:Jericho (TV series) images

Category:Jericho characters to Category:Jericho (TV series) characters
Category:Jericho episodes to Category:Jericho (TV series) episodes

Nominator's Rationale: Rename to match the lead article Jericho (TV series) and correct capitalization. Not sure if this qualifies as speedy. Otto4711 15:17, 6 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Kyle XY

Propose renaming Category:Kyle XY to Category:Kyle XY characters

Nominator's Rationale: Rename - everything in the category except the show's article is an article on a character. Otto4711 14:56, 6 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Category:The 10th Kingdom

Delete - nothing left in the cat after creating and populating the characters subcat but that subcat and the article on the show. No need for this category for navigation. Otto4711 14:50, 6 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Category:8th & Ocean

Delete - category contains the article on the show and the modeling agency from the show. These two articles are easily interlinked and the category is not needed for navigational purposes. Otto4711 14:35, 6 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Category:7th Heaven

Delete - after the recategorization of various articles to the appropriate subcats, the remaining material is insufficient to warrant the category. All of the material is easily interlinked through the main article on the show. Otto4711 14:32, 6 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Category:3rd Rock from the Sun

Delete - Other than the show's article, everything in the category is an improperly categorized cast/crew article. The category is not needed for navigation and is unlikely to grow. Otto4711 14:20, 6 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Category:The Critic

Delete - in the absence of the improperly categorized articles on cast and crew, all that would remain is the article on the show and on a Simpsons ep where the main character appeared. Small category with no likelihood of growth, category not needed for navigational purposes. Otto4711 14:14, 6 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Romantic interests of Elliott Smith

Delete, overcategorisation by a trivial characteristic, this can be covered in the Elliott Smith article. cab 12:29, 6 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Delete, we don't do People by people. -- Prove It ^(talk) 14:44, 6 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per nom - unnecessary overcategorisation. Beloved freak 15:20, 6 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Australian test cricketers killed in action

Propose renaming Category:Australian test cricketers killed in action to Category:Cricketers killed in action

Nominator's Rationale: Rename, I doubt this could be expanded in the future (I hope not, anyway!), and it only contains one article at the moment. Rename and add in Jasper Vinall for one. Lugnuts 10:35, 6 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Upmerge to Category:Australian test cricketers. (the sole article, Tibby Cotter, is already in Category:Australian military personnel killed in World War One). The intersection between cricketers and war dead might make an interesting list, but is not notable enough to justify a category Category:Cricketers killed in action. What next? Category:Killed in action by conflict sub-categorised by every occupation and hobby? --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 10:46, 6 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Comment apologies, I didn't read Cotter's full article and took the word action to mean actually playing a game of cricket! But my original point still stands of renaming the cat to include any one unfortunent enough to actually die/by killed in a game of cricket, as per J. Vinall. Lugnuts 11:38, 6 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- Reply: I think that the phrase "killed in action" usually refers to military action, but the category creator didn't make the intent clear, so the confusion is understandable. However, a category of crickets killed while playing cricket seems a bit excessive when it only has one identified potential member. Have you any information to suggest that there are more otherwise notable cricketers killed during a game? --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 13:35, 6 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  - Comment Hmmm, looks like I'll be clutching at straws to find any others! I'll go with a upmerge or delete for this cat in the meantime. Lugnuts 13:52, 6 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Upmerge per BHG. I would guess there's a category out there already for sportspeople killed while playing their sport and I can't imagine it's so large as to require subdivision by sport. Otto4711 14:22, 6 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- I can't find any generic category, but Category:Deaths in sport contains a few categories for he more dangerous sports, such as Category:Motorcycle racers killed while racing. There are also a few lists, so maybe a list of cricketers killed while playing might be appropriate.--BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 19:54, 6 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  - Thanks for looking into that. Lugnuts 20:09, 6 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Municipalities in Arauca

Propose renaming Category:Municipalities in Arauca to Category:Municipalities of Arauca

Nominator's Rationale: Rename, This category's 30 siblings all use "of": this is the only "in". Potentially speediable. Alai 04:20, 6 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Rename per nom. Haddiscoe 11:08, 6 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Rename for consistency. Beloved freak 15:21, 6 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Quality Guru

Propose renaming Category:Quality Guru to Category:Quality experts

Nominator's Rationale: Rename: capitalization and style. Sumahoy 01:34, 6 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Keep: It's an industry standard term, it would seem very odd to change to the generic and unused term "experts". My example would be "Philip Crosby's Reflections on Quality: 295 Inspirations from the World's Foremost Quality Guru"; if Crosby calls himself a Quality Guru this seems to prove the point. Ashley VH 07:11, 6 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Rename per nom or to Category:Quality gurus, whichever has most support. The current name breaches the style guidelines. Haddiscoe 11:08, 6 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Rename to Category:Quality experts, which gets 111,000 ghits versus 20,600 for "quality guru". It may be the current slang in some parts of some industries, but I don't see anything in the wikipedia articles on quality to support the assertion that "guru" is standard term. "Guru" is often used in this sense in other occupations, but I'm sure it would still be recognised as slang. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 20:18, 6 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Enderverse novels and short stories

Propose renaming Category:Enderverse novels and short stories to Category:Enderverse novels

Nominator's Rationale: Rename. This used to cover both novels and short stories, but now that I've merged them into List of Enderverse short stories and First Meetings, this just covers novels. The category should be changed to appropriately reflect this. hbdragon88 01:31, 6 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Gay Nazis

Possibly created in bad faith (see the usernames of the two users that created it). This category is not particularly encyclopedic, though not nearly as bad as the next one. --BigDT 01:11, 6 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per Wikipedia:Overcategorization#Non-notable_intersections_by_ethnicity.2C_religion.2C_or_sexual_preference. Doczilla 06:12, 6 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Delete as unverifiable; as the article on Ernst Röhm illustrates, there seems to be a lack of robust evidence about homeosexuality amongst the Nazis. Plenty of thorough analysis of a homoerotic current in Nazi imagery, but less on the individuals, which would leave the category imbalanced. I'm sure that there is plenty of scope for an article on the subject, but given the difficulties in sourcing, I can't see how a category can work. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 07:45, 6 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per BrownHairedGirl Sleep On It 21:10, 6 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Gay Neo-Nazis

Possibly created in bad faith (see the usernames of the two users that created it). This category is horribly unencyclopedic and has already been used for vandalism. --BigDT 01:11, 6 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per Wikipedia:Overcategorization#Non-notable_intersections_by_ethnicity.2C_religion.2C_or_sexual_preference. Doczilla 06:12, 6 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Keep This seems to be a relevant intersection as Neo-Nazism is generally anti-gay and therefore it effected these men's activities.--T. Anthony 17:13, 6 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Sleeper Cell (TV series)

Delete - small category, little or no potential for growth. The material is all easily interlinked through the main article. Category is not needed for navigational purposes. Otto4711 00:50, 6 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]