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Waxworker, it is not worth removing my edit in the Joe Pera article. Judging by his surname which does sound Italian-American, and the fact that he was born in the state of New York makes it more acceptable to find it that way. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Fluddsskark (talk • contribs) 08:10, 6 August 2024 (UTC)Reply

@Fluddsskark: - A reliable source needs to actually say that he is of Italian descent to include it in the article - see WP:BURDEN. Waxworker (talk) 08:18, 6 August 2024 (UTC)Reply

You are lucky because I found a source for the "Pera" surname. Fluddsskark (talk) 08:24, 6 August 2024 (UTC)Reply

@Fluddsskark: - A source saying that the surname "Pera" is Italian isn't a source verifying that Joe Pera specifically is of Italian descent. Waxworker (talk) 08:29, 6 August 2024 (UTC)Reply

Hi Waxworker I add the airdates from nickelodeon because the show aired on july 2024. And somebody already add a reliable source — Preceding unsigned comment added by 141.155.162.213 (talk) 03:24, 21 July 2024 (UTC)Reply

Hi. I never add something I'm not completely sure about it. In her IMDB page^[1] it's listed^[2]. Please don't delete anything without verifing. Like other had told you in this same page, please first search and then delete. Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Emilerudoy2 (talk • contribs) 17:09, 21 June 2024 (UTC)Reply

@Emilerudoy2: - IMDB is an unreliable WP:USERGENERATED source per WP:IMDB. Waxworker (talk) 17:20, 21 June 2024 (UTC)Reply

She's on the trailer. Yes, I saw the trailer in the UNRELIABLE IMDB. You can look it for yourself. Her name is in the credits at the 01:59 point of the video. https://www.imdb.com/video/vi2429601305/?playlistId=tt20255354&ref_=vp_rv_ap_0 Emilerudoy2 (talk) 19:08, 21 June 2024 (UTC)Reply

@Emilerudoy2: - IMDB is still unreliable, and the credits at the indicated time do list her name, but do not specify a role. Waxworker (talk) 19:34, 21 June 2024 (UTC)Reply

You know, do as you wish. Emilerudoy2 (talk) 19:41, 21 June 2024 (UTC)Reply

I found an interview. In that interview they put her role (at the .43 seconds). https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KQ7ip_n0Qhw . I hope an interview with the actual people involved in this is an reliable source for you. Emilerudoy2 (talk) 19:55, 21 June 2024 (UTC)Reply

@Emilerudoy2: - Youtube is a generally unreliable source per WP:RSPYT, and I was unable to find anything indicating that the uploader 'Hollywood First Look' was reliable. Waxworker (talk) 20:17, 21 June 2024 (UTC)Reply

Look up his birthday on his IMDB page. It is different. I went to FamilySearch and looked him up. He was born in August of 1938. Stop bothering people who make accurate corrections. I have given up because editors are such morons. Be inaccurate. That is what Wikipedia is known for. A crappy site with crappy volunteers.

Regarding your deletion of my addition for being unsourced - half the tracks listed there are also unsourced. Regardless, I've re-added with the exact record it was recorded onto. I find your deletion ironic considering the enormous bolded statement on your page: "If an article on Wikipedia is bad, the solution is to improve, not delete." It took me thirty seconds of searching to find the source. Pretty easy improvement, I think.

Hi, the star awards 2024 was conducted on 21 April 2024 and the artistes have already received their awards as stated and based on their previous they do not have sources stated. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 119.74.103.26 (talk) 23:17, 22 April 2024 (UTC)Reply

Hi, rather than go back and forth over edits to the MaBoShi page based on the Staff Credits/Roll contained in the game, I thought I'd start a section here. I wondered how you would recommend citing the credits to the game?

I took a video of the credits in the game, but my uploading it is not deemed reliable enough. I also have this information on my blog, but I would assume that is also not reliable enough. If the developer of the game was to upload a video of the credits to YouTube would that be reliable enough? Thanks. —Flicky1984 (talk) 14:30, 22 April 2024 (UTC)Reply

@Flicky1984: - Blogs are generally unreliable per WP:BLOGS. Articles for video games don't list everyone who worked on a game - I think listing five programmers is unnecessary. A listing of the credits officially published by the developer would verify the information, but doesn't necessarily mean it should be included on the article. I think the staff already noted in the article from the Nintendo Life interview is sufficient. Waxworker (talk) 15:16, 22 April 2024 (UTC)Reply

The issue is the current list is wrong. —Flicky1984 (talk) 23:01, 22 April 2024 (UTC)Reply

@Flicky1984: - What is incorrect? Everything under development seems to line up with what the interview says. Waxworker (talk) 06:40, 23 April 2024 (UTC)Reply

Hi why the change made to BaiLu Wikipedia are getting reverted back , those are not non reliable, those are true achievements. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Loki1202 (talk • contribs) 04:34, 17 April 2024 (UTC)Reply

I didn't pull the role from somewhere online, I took it from the episode credits directly. It's not terribly surprising that a bit part for a monster of the week in 1995 isn't prominently featured on any lists. Link to credits image: https://imgur.com/a/1Mb4dq3 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2603:6011:6A21:3481:8CA8:25A5:1166:F030 (talk) 21:12, 29 March 2024 (UTC)Reply

On the Freaky Stories wiki, both The Suspect and The Getaway have links to that page. Ergo, both are variations of that story. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.141.188.170 (talk) 18:01, 20 March 2024 (UTC)Reply

@24.141.188.170: - Fan wikis are unreliable WP:USERGENERATED sources. Waxworker (talk) 19:10, 21 March 2024 (UTC)Reply

Happy birthday! Shall we come up with a list of articles to be placed under pending changes protection? If the unwanted changes are no longer visible immediately, I wonder if it will disincentivise the sockmaster. – robertsky (talk) 00:45, 12 December 2023 (UTC)Reply

@Robertsky: - Here's hoping, but given how long they've been doing this, I doubt it. Off the top of my head, Alice Chan and Felicia Chin have been edited by socks a lot. I'm unsure if many of the targeted articles receive enough disruption to warrant protection - in many cases, the edits are months apart. Waxworker (talk) 00:54, 12 December 2023 (UTC)Reply

My bad, I forgot to cite the source. Are these eligble enough? https://nlab.itmedia.co.jp/games/gsnews/0112/05/news02.html https://nlab.itmedia.co.jp/games/gsnews/0112/05/news02.html HarmonyBunny00 (talk) 19:22, 15 December 2023 (UTC)Reply

@HarmonyBunny00: - ITMEDIA is a reliable source per WP:VG/RS, and would be a good source. Waxworker (talk) 19:27, 15 December 2023 (UTC)Reply

Is it enough to revert my edit? Or should I look for more sources? HarmonyBunny00 (talk) 19:30, 15 December 2023 (UTC)Reply

@HarmonyBunny00: - The sources found seem good, readding the game to the list w/the two refs would be fine. See Help:Referencing for beginners if you need insight regarding citing sources/cite formatting. Waxworker (talk) 19:35, 15 December 2023 (UTC)Reply

Don't you mean one ref? These links are the same. Also, how do I archive a link? HarmonyBunny00 (talk) 19:39, 15 December 2023 (UTC)Reply

@HarmonyBunny00: - Apologies, the link being pasted twice tripped me up a bit. Links may be archived using the 'Wayback Machine' on Archive.org, see Help:Archiving a source for a guide. Waxworker (talk) 19:52, 15 December 2023 (UTC)Reply

I've done my edit. How did I do? HarmonyBunny00 (talk) 20:03, 15 December 2023 (UTC)Reply

@HarmonyBunny00: - The date for the source is incorrect, the article appears to say 'December 5, 2001' at the top, and the bottom of the article has a copyright date of 2001. 'Archive-date' is correct in that it is the date it was archived on Archive.org, but 'date' should be the date the source was published. 'ITMEDIA' should also be in the 'website=' section. If you have any other questions, I recommend asking at the WP:TEAHOUSE. Waxworker (talk) 20:12, 15 December 2023 (UTC)Reply

 

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Can you restore your revision on Stickin' Around Please? Per the topic. 2600:1700:8BB0:51B0:1D0A:6FD1:A2A2:2A74 (talk) 00:26, 23 December 2023 (UTC)Reply

You are like that kid in grade school who raises his hand and is like "AHRMMMMMEMMMMM TEACHER, YOU FORGOT YOU ASSIGNED US HOMEWORK" — Preceding unsigned comment added by 149.101.1.116 (talk) 01:37, 8 February 2024 (UTC)Reply

Lmao fr JamTop1105 (talk) 03:46, 27 May 2024 (UTC)Reply

I understand that it was necessary to undo the wild idea, but you could have added citations from the main article and avoid an undo. I have now, but kind of overdoing the steps. ? Orastor (talk) 14:26, 29 December 2023 (UTC)Reply

Happy New Year! I understand that it was needed to undo my edits, but I have sourced the words from various language websites when I add them. Maybe you hadn't noticed the references and that's why the misunderstanding exists? Apologies if I am wrong or something. HarlambriDaabrev (talk) 8:45, 1 January 2024 (EEC)

@HarlambiDaabrev: - Every entry added needs a source - not all of the entries you added are sourced, and the 'fiskersiden.no' ref is a forum post, which is an unreliable source per WP:USERGENERATED. 'norwegianlanguagelearning.no' appears similarly unreliable and is a blog tied to a Discord server, see WP:BLOGS. Per WP:BURDEN, "All content must be verifiable. The burden to demonstrate verifiability lies with the editor who adds or restores material, and it is satisfied by providing an inline citation to a reliable source that directly supports the contribution". Reliable sources are necessary for verification. Waxworker (talk) 06:56, 1 January 2024 (UTC)Reply

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Regrads, RandomToons (talk) 21:46, 5 January 2024 (UTC)Reply

Hello, So for Shuki Levy for Digimon Frontier, I found it at IMDB 108.3.163.54 (talk) 23:07, 7 January 2024 (UTC)Reply

@108.3.163.54: - IMDB is an unreliable source per WP:IMDB as it is WP:USERGENERATED. Waxworker (talk) 23:11, 7 January 2024 (UTC)Reply

But the 4th season of Digimon reused some music from 3rd season 108.3.163.54 (talk) 23:13, 7 January 2024 (UTC)Reply

@RandomToons: - Please see WP:NOTTVGUIDE - Wikipedia articles for TV channels should only list notable programming, not everything ever aired on the channel. Waxworker (talk) 01:15, 8 January 2024 (UTC)Reply

Hi Waxworker I recently edited the Asterix Conquers America page and removed Chef roles, but this character wasn't in Asterix so how could Rupert Degas voice him. Piotr-34789 (talk) 14:26, 10 January 2024 (UTC)Reply

Hi there, I would like to say about Ben 10 Omniverse. I do not think I made a mistake on this page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:18D:4700:19F0:BD48:FC93:941E:B06C (talk) 20:45, 10 January 2024 (UTC)Reply

@2601:18D:4700:19F0:BD48:FC93:941E:B06C: - Per WP:BURDEN, a reliable source would be necessary to verify the notes about the logo changes. Logo changes also seems rather trivial and unnecessary to note in the article. Waxworker (talk) 20:54, 10 January 2024 (UTC)Reply

Hello, you removed a film that I added to the filmography of the British actor John Neville and left this message on my page: //Hello, I'm Waxworker. I noticed that you added or changed content in an article, John Neville (actor), but you didn't provide a reliable source. It's been removed and archived in the page history for now, but if you'd like to include a citation and re-add it, please do so. If you think I made a mistake, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thank you. Waxworker (talk) 06:39, 11 January 2024//

If you notice, none of the films and programs in Mr. Neville's filmography are cited with any source at all. Most of them are cross-referenced to articles on the individual films but not all of them. Perhaps I should remove the other films from the filmography and post a message on the talk page for John Neville that they all need to be provided with a reliable source? Please advise.

Since you seem to have an interest in this actor, you would probably like the film that I added to the filmography, since his John Milton was a really fine performance and you should see it if you can. Pascalulu88 (talk) 19:38, 11 January 2024 (UTC)Reply

@Pascalulu88: - Unsourced content can be challenged and removed at any time - removing the unsourced roles and noting them on the talk page would be fine. Waxworker (talk) 11:47, 12 January 2024 (UTC)Reply

You seem to be more interested in deleting things than in getting them sourced to improve an article(?) Oh well, à chacun son goût. I'll get that film properly sourced because it's one of John Neville's best performances from the 1970s. Thanks! Pascalulu88 (talk) 01:28, 13 January 2024 (UTC)Reply

You reverted some of my edits to The Encounter (The Twilight Zone) because of a source I used.

So which of these sources could I use?

https://www.avclub.com/the-twilight-zone-the-encounter-mr-garrity-and-the-1798182150

https://nedhardy.com/2023/11/30/twilight-zone-encounter/

https://tvobsessive.com/2020/02/07/the-twilight-zone-the-encounter/

https://vanlifewanderer.com/2024/01/08/banned-twilight-zone/

Vajzë Blu (talk) 04:25, 12 January 2024 (UTC)Reply

@Vajzë Blu: - The AV Club is a reliable source per WP:RSP. None of the other sources have previously been discussed at WP:RSN, which doesn't nescessarily mean they're unreliable, but the other sources seem questionable to me. 'vanlifewanderer' doesn't list an 'about us', I can't find any mention of the website or 'StomachPunch Media' in reliable sources, and every article on the site appears to be written by the same person - it doesn't seem reliable at all. 'Ned Hardy' does have an 'about us' page and a fact-checking policy page, but I can't find the site mentioned in reliable sources and articles on the site read as churnalism to me. 'TV Obsessive' does have an about us and lists a staff team, but it hasn't been mentioned in reliable sources, and the linked article cited Wikipedia itself. The AV Club ref is the only source there I'd consider reliable. Waxworker (talk) 12:10, 12 January 2024 (UTC)Reply

Thank your for your considerate and detailed information on sources and for the links! Vajzë Blu (talk) 02:39, 13 January 2024 (UTC)Reply

@Waxworker:Does this have enough citations now to pull the refimprove tag? Vajzë Blu (talk) 04:38, 14 January 2024 (UTC)Reply

I had added more sources accepted by Wikipedia, and there was no objection in the talk page, so removed the tag. :) Vajzë Blu (talk) 01:47, 16 January 2024 (UTC)Reply

Specifically, the edits for Roger Craig Smith and Noah Watts crediting them for reprising their Assassin's Creed roles for Assassin's Creed Nexus VR, since it's confirmed in the credits and on their social media that it's them voicing Ezio and Connor again. SpyderSoup (talk) 11:40, 17 January 2024 (UTC)Reply

@SpyderSoup: - A reliable source would need to be cited to verify the roles - official social media posts discussing the roles would work. Waxworker (talk) 12:54, 17 January 2024 (UTC)Reply

Here's one confirming the original voice actors reprising their roles for the game from Twitter, or X as it's called now, which I still think is stupid. https://twitter.com/ac_landmarks/status/1673373722705825794 SpyderSoup (talk) 12:58, 17 January 2024 (UTC)Reply

@SpyderSoup: - This appears to be a tweet from a fan, which is unreliable. Confirmation from gaming news sites or a tweet from the voice actors themselves or Ubisoft would be suitable. Waxworker (talk) 13:03, 17 January 2024 (UTC)Reply

Fair enough. Well, here's an article talking about the game which does state the voice actors coming back to play as the assassins. https://mobilesyrup.com/2023/10/17/assassins-creed-nexus-meta-quest-vr-preview/ SpyderSoup (talk) 13:06, 17 January 2024 (UTC)Reply

Actually, the tweet I just showed you was retweeted by the voice actors themselves. SpyderSoup (talk) 13:13, 17 January 2024 (UTC)Reply

@SpyderSoup: - 'Mobilesyrup' doesn't seem like a great source to me, it's previously been discussed at WP:RSN with the discussion here appearing to me to lean towards 'unclear reliability/unreliable'. I'm unable to view the retweets on the linked Tweet as I lack a Twitter, but I'm unsure if the voice actors just retweeting it makes the tweet a reliable source for the information. Waxworker (talk) 13:19, 17 January 2024 (UTC)Reply

Good points. Well, like I said, the credits of the game show that it is the original voice actors reprising their roles in the game. If you want, I can send a screenshot. SpyderSoup (talk) 13:28, 17 January 2024 (UTC)Reply

@SpyderSoup: - Template:Cite video game can be used to cite the game itself, but in practice I've only seen this used on the Wikipedia articles for the games themselves and doesn't seem like a great source for a biography, where sourcing is more stringent. A screenshot of the credits wouldn't be reliable, as it would be WP:USERGENERATED. Waxworker (talk) 13:37, 17 January 2024 (UTC)Reply

I'd thought I told you to stop stalking me, all I was doing is putting edit back tge way they were because they were vandalized by another user. Not every single edit someone puts in or corrects doesn't need a cited source and such, now I'm gonna tell you politly again for the last time, stop stalking me, leave me alone. 2601:188:CC81:C420:70C5:17E6:B143:46B6 (talk) 19:10, 28 January 2024 (UTC)Reply

@2601:188:CC81:C420:70C5:17E6:B143:46B6: - I am not stalking you. Removal of unsourced content is not vandalism, please see WP:NOTVAND, and WP:BURDEN which states that "All content must be verifiable. The burden to demonstrate verifiability lies with the editor who adds or restores material, and it is satisfied by providing an inline citation to a reliable source that directly supports the contribution". Unsourced content may be challenged and removed at any time. I've started a discussion on Talk:Bruce Dinsmore regarding the filmography section - your input there would be appreciated. Waxworker (talk) 19:37, 28 January 2024 (UTC)Reply

Hey, just so you know I apologize for my last message I send to you, I was just so feed up with my edits being reverted over and over again and i just didn't understood why you kept on doing it to me on every article I go too. That's why I misunderstood you for stalking me, which you weren't doing. I understand that you were only following the policy, I unfortunately have a lot of trouble with that, I understand that Wikiiedia is very strict with information and souces, I'm just trying my hardest to accept it. Again, I deeply apologize for being cruel to you. 2601:188:CC81:C420:9920:B149:238E:9466 (talk) 20:46, 29 January 2024 (UTC)Reply

Hi, regarding the lack of sources to my edits - the first source is in the game's credits section. link to the screenshot: https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/pdfn3xwl7omkunp8np95t/pw-credits.png?rlkey=dxo9qa5ufs51y9o0i17xbt8u0&dl=0

Here's an interview that can be used as a source for the second edit (second question): https://nfornerds.com/interview-with-project-warlock-designer-david-korzekwa/

cheers

David Kay Conrad (talk) 15:35, 2 February 2024 (UTC)Reply

@David Kay Conrad: - A dropbox link is not a reliable source, and 'nfornerds' doesn't seem like a reliable source either. I'm unable to find any discussion of the site in reliable sources, and it doesn't seem to have previously been discussed at WP:RSN, and the most recently posted things on the website are spam posts promoting dating apps. Waxworker (talk) 01:31, 3 February 2024 (UTC)Reply

I didn't provide a source because none of the other platforms had sources listed. It would have taken you literally 5 seconds to google it instead of reverting it. https://www.nintendo.com/us/store/products/chips-challenge-switch/ I feel like it being on the eshop is enough of a source. 184.153.223.6 (talk) 19:08, 3 February 2024 (UTC)Reply

also WP:AFG :) 184.153.223.6 (talk) 19:11, 3 February 2024 (UTC)Reply

Don't care if you revert it again. Your site will be the ones with the wrong info. This site honestly sucks and is incredibly hostile to people for following the literal structure of the page lmao. Never going to edit here again, thanks for driving me off the site. :) 184.153.223.6 (talk) 19:18, 3 February 2024 (UTC)Reply

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@Phrasia: - I do not play DDR. Fan wikis are an unreliable source per WP:USERGENERATED, and there being unsourced content already on the article isn't a reason to add more content sourced to unreliable sources. Waxworker (talk) 04:13, 6 February 2024 (UTC)Reply

I suppose you're right. I see. ☼Phrasia☼ (talk) 04:14, 6 February 2024 (UTC).Reply

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You’re like a hero on Wikipedia. I’m a respectful editor on this site as well as finding reliable sources. Is there someway I could get a badge? I’ve noticed some of the editors receive them.

BTW, I wish this site was an unsigned user restricted site because I can’t stand these unsigned vandals putting false POV. Retrosunshine2006 talk 07:04, 15 February 2024 (UTC)Reply

I got my info from https://d23.com/a-to-z/sleigh-bells-film/ . Say you are sorry. Shortsitoez (talk) 23:45, 20 February 2024 (UTC)Reply

@Shortsitoez: - This is a Disney fansite, and doesn't seem like a great source. The Hollywood Reporter ref on the article (which is a reliable source per WP:THR) says 1927. Waxworker (talk) 00:22, 21 February 2024 (UTC)Reply

Following me YDKJfan737 (talk) 18:06, 24 February 2024 (UTC)Reply

You reverted my additions on a TV drama show in which the two actors starred together in 2024, because I didn't include a reference. The drama can be streamed on Viki.com right now. I learned that the website "mydramalist.com" is blacklisted and not considered a reliable reference. How about "Viki.com" itself? Would, e.g., a link to [[1]] be permissible? (Although I would be concerned because it could be available only temporarily.) I am not Chinese and cannot add a link to a Chinese publication. Maybe you can. Seher7in (talk) — Preceding undated comment added 10:01, 25 February 2024 (UTC)Reply

@Seher7in: - Listings on streaming platforms aren't a great source, but its better than no source. The page for the show itself rather than the page you linked seems more suitable. The Wayback Machine on Archive.org can be used to save a snapshot of the page as it exists now to serve as a backup if the page is ever removed from the site - the url for the archive may be added under 'archive url' when adding a reference using cite web. Waxworker (talk) 10:21, 25 February 2024 (UTC)Reply

Actually, I was watching the movie credits while updating the cast.173.170.38.252 (talk) 02:30, 28 February 2024 (UTC)Reply

Hello. Please forgive my terrible English first.

I am aware that Wikipedia has very strict policies regarding the description of living people, but I think it's not as strict for deceased individuals.

Do you still believe that you absolutely need a reliable source?

And...

I will give the example of Mori Terumoto.

(a) Mōri Motonari left a testament saying, "There is no need for further territorial expansion. We must not get entangled in central conflicts". However, conflict with Oda Nobunaga, who sought to expand his dominion, began, within three years after Motonari's death.

(b) Before death, Mori Motonari had declared himself no friend to Nobunaga, and the young Terumoto openly challenged Nobunaga. It happened that the Môri were to be drawn into war over the Ishiyama Hongan-ji War, a religious stronghold in Settsu, Nobunaga had been besieging since 1570.

Why did you decide that 'a' is bad and 'b' is good when there are no sources for either? I think both need to be removed for it to make sense. --101.110.55.14 (talk) 05:27, 29 February 2024 (UTC)Reply

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See [2] which meets WP:RS (and lots of other sources one Google search away). Currently on Amazon. Regards, Andreas JN466 13:12, 1 March 2024 (UTC)Reply

@Jayen466: - Per WP:BURDEN, the onus is on the editor adding content to provide a source verifying it. Adding sources in edit summaries rather than adding a ref also isn't great as that can get easily buried in the edit history, making it harder for people to verify in the future. Waxworker (talk) 13:18, 1 March 2024 (UTC)Reply

See Wikipedia:WikiProject_Actors_and_Filmmakers#Filmography_tables. Refs in Filmography tables are optional – they are only required where participation in a film is difficult to confirm (e.g. because there are no English online sources). Andreas JN466 13:30, 1 March 2024 (UTC)Reply

@Jayen466: - Despite it saying it is an "optional field", challenged content should be sourced per WP:BURDEN, which states that citations are required for "all material whose verifiability has been challenged". Waxworker (talk) 13:44, 1 March 2024 (UTC)Reply

Do you know, that there is an option to edit the text and change it to something more neutral ether than reverting the ALL edits, including very informative and useful? Like mentioned civs. No, you just reverting it all leaving the article in that state with no clarification. English is not my native, but if you played Tale of the Dragon you know what I'm talking about. It may be my weak side to express things in encyclopedic terms, just edit it and help improving! Orange-kun (talk) 18:47, 2 March 2024 (UTC)Reply

Hello, you recently reverted my change for the Idekaya incident page where I mention its depiction in Like a Dragon: Ishin!. However, the description I gave seems on par with other examples in that category, so I'm not entirely sure what else I would need to do? 2603:6010:F3F0:19C0:DC:129F:843E:6D42 (talk) 17:09, 6 March 2024 (UTC)Reply

@2603:6010:F3F0:19C0:DC:129F:843E:6D42: - The rest of the 'In fiction' section was similarly unsourced, and I've removed it for that reason. Please see MOS:POPCULT, which states that "Cultural references about a subject should not be included simply because they exist. A Wikipedia article may include a subject's cultural impact by summarizing its coverage in reliable secondary or tertiary sources", and must "cover the subject's cultural impact in some depth; it should not be a source that merely mentions the subject's appearance". Reliable sources would need to be cited specifically talking about the Ikedaya incident in the game in depth. Waxworker (talk) 17:15, 6 March 2024 (UTC)Reply

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Hi! Recently, you archived an edit I made to The Incredibles (soundtrack). I don't actually remember what it was that I put in there - most likely, it was that Wayne Bergeron played lead trumpet on soundtrack (which is true and was stated in Bergeron's Wikipedia article in addition to in both the "Bio" (https://www.waynebergeron.com/bio) and "Film & TV Credits" (https://www.waynebergeron.com/credits) section of his personal website). Can you please help me add the necessary citation? Thank you! TheTrumpetOrchestra (talk) 17:06, 12 March 2024 (UTC)Reply

@TheTrumpetOrchestra: - You added that "Notably, Wayne Bergeron can be heard on the lead trumpet in this soundtrack" - 'notably' suggests that his performance was specifically noted in reviews, and his website isn't really a good source for that. None of the reviews I checked mentioned him. Neither of the links to his site say that he played lead trumpet on the soundtrack, the biography one says that he played "featured trumpet solos" on The Incredibles, not necessarily lead. It seems odd to note Wayne specifically if reliable secondary sources don't - the article doesn't list everybody in the orchestra. See Help:Referencing for beginners for a guide to citing sources, but this doesn't seem notable to me. Waxworker (talk) 05:35, 13 March 2024 (UTC)Reply

What's notable about him being lead on the soundtrack is that he's one of the greatest trumpet players of all time, and this soundtrack was essentially written for him. While there's nothing on the internet that specifically says he played lead on the soundtrack, it's always implied given his reputation with Maynard Ferguson and given that he's a lead player that he will have played lead on the soundtrack. And if you listen to the soundtrack, you can hear that it is Wayne playing the lead part on the soundtrack. However, I understand your objections for removing this even if I don't agree with them. TheTrumpetOrchestra (talk) 05:57, 22 March 2024 (UTC)Reply

I have restored the edit you reverted on The Three Stooges (video game) There is no need for a citation here as it's found within the game. That is its own citation. How come you didn't remove any of the other unsourced content? 204.78.14.9 (talk) 14:57, 13 March 2024 (UTC)Reply

Why did you remove the cast of Disney Dreamlight Valley? 2600:1700:4210:2450:DAAF:B482:3CC6:E712 (talk) 16:24, 16 March 2024 (UTC)Reply

@2600:1700:4210:2450:DAAF:B482:3CC6:E712: - Listing voice casts for video games is discouraged per WP:VGSCOPE - see #11 on the list of "Inappropriate content". The list was also unsourced. Waxworker (talk) 16:26, 16 March 2024 (UTC)Reply

Hey Waxworker! I Just Have My Account And I Edited Nicktoons Programs In UK! Ballraxor (talk) 02:46, 17 March 2024 (UTC)Reply

If somebody out there really, really needs to know that the company currently known as JackBox Games, which previously released You Don't Know Jack under the name Jellyvision, was also known as Learn Television before doing anything anybody's heard of, they can read about it on the company's page. Your attitude of reverting first and asking questions later (and assuredly not reading the actual pages or edits) is perfectly representative of the pinheaded process-over-people culture on this site that has kept the number of editors stagnant while the site balloons. 75.129.203.176 (talk) 20:35, 18 March 2024 (UTC)Reply

Hiya, I saw that you rolled back my edit of The Bard's Tale (1985 video game) regarding the gameplay. Technically you're correct that the addition was "unsourced". But given that the issue at hand is a technical feature of the program, I would appreciate a suggestion as to how such information can be sourced? I certainly do feel that the peculiar saving routine needs to be mentioned as it essentially turned every sortie from the Adventurer's Guild into an "iron man" game where you needed to make sure you can make it back, and fans frequently cited the resulting need to manage resources during dungeon exploration as an important if not defining aspect of the game. Frabartolo Ringril (talk) 07:44, 22 March 2024 (UTC)Reply

@Frabartolo Ringril: - Per WP:BURDEN, "All content must be verifiable. The burden to demonstrate verifiability lies with the editor who adds or restores material, and it is satisfied by providing an inline citation to a reliable source that directly supports the contribution". Reviews already on the article could be looked over to see if they discuss this, and added as inline cites - two and a bit paragraphs seems like WP:GAMECRUFT though, specific exploits in particular seems unnecessary to note. I think one sentence under gameplay saying that you have to return to the Adventurer's Guild to save character progress would be sufficient, with specific discussion/criticism of the save system by reliable sources under reception. Waxworker (talk) 04:57, 24 March 2024 (UTC)Reply

Hi, for sure I didn't provide a reliable source...

What I wrote was and is correct...

My mind in writing was some RUBBISH contained in the following, not all of it but some ...

"Mirabelle plums are extremely popular in Germany where they grow both wild and cultivated, primarily in the south and southwest. Mirabelle plums are enjoyed fresh or as various kinds of mirabelle cakes, liquor, preserves, and canned fruit. In Spain it grows in Galicia, in O Rosal, a valley in the south of the province of Pontevedra to which it was introduced in the mid-twentieth century by Xosé Sánchez García and where it has acclimated to perfection. In Galicia, it is consumed fresh, but it is also used to manufacture preserves and liqueurs. It is also naturalized in the Ebro Valley in parts of Zaragoza, Teruel, Lleida and Tarragona, and can be found near rivers, irrigation canals and road ditches. In Aragon mirabelle plums are called cascabeles. In England, mirabelles grow both wild and cultivated in Essex, and there are yellow, orange and red varieties in Maylandsea and at Alresford in Hampshire. There are also red, yellow and orange varieties that formed the boundary hedge to an Orchard in Sheringham Norfolk. The orchard was developed into housing in the late 1960s so the hedge is thought be up to 100 years old. The Metz variety grows wild in Suffolk at Leathes' Ham, near Oulton Broad. One tree can also be found growing wild in North West England in Liverpool, and several may be found in the Buckinghamshire town of Milton Keynes. Red and yellow varieties have also been found recently in an ancient hedgerow just outside Northampton. A lone tree found in a nature area in Hucknall, Nottinghamshire produced a massive crop in 2015. Several mirabelles have also been seen in East Ashling hedgerow fields near Chichester West Sussex. The mirabelle is also found in hedgerows in Sutton-on-Trent, Nottinghamshire and on the Millfied Golf Course, Lincolnshire. They are likewise found in the Czech Republic, Hungary, Romania, Bosnia-Herzegovina, Poland, Slovakia and Slovenia both wild and cultivated, often at roadsides. In the United States, trees dating back to the 1940s are still producing fruit in residential neighborhoods in Tamalpais Valley, just north of San Francisco."

He/she/it who wrote that passage didn't provide a reliable source...

so I chose to use my artistic freedom and write what I wrote...

This (MY) passage contains NO falsehood whatsoever AND I didn't provide a reliable source...

To conclude...my 62 worth of text needs a reliable source !?!?

...so I will reinstate my comment...

best regards

Stylianos Isaakidis

Koromilia, Kilkis

Greece

p.s. the name of my village is the greek word for cherry plums 178.147.112.250 (talk) 20:35, 25 March 2024 (UTC)Reply

@178.147.112.250: - Per WP:BURDEN, "All content must be verifiable. The burden to demonstrate verifiability lies with the editor who adds or restores material, and it is satisfied by providing an inline citation to a reliable source that directly supports the contribution". A reliable source is necessary for verification. Unsourced content may be challenged and removed at any time - I've removed some of the other unsourced content from the article. Waxworker (talk) 20:58, 25 March 2024 (UTC)Reply

I have sourced all the upcoming programming 2001:569:BD3C:5A00:498F:3459:55AD:8008 (talk) 21:11, 25 March 2024 (UTC)Reply

Exploding Toad in the Hole is a mental challenge not timed & it's played on floor 4 not 3. Annamargarita825 (talk) 19:47, 29 March 2024 (UTC)Reply

@Annamargarita825: - Please see WP:BURDEN - reliable sources are necessary for verification. Unsourced content may be challenged and removed at any time - I've reverted the unsourced list of episodes and removed the unsourced 'Challenges' section. I recommend reading Help:Referencing for beginners for guidance regarding citing sources. Waxworker (talk) 20:41, 29 March 2024 (UTC)Reply

Hi Waxworker,

I was the producer of Fighter Duel and Fighter Duel 2 for Philips Media and Infogrames, and my additions are based on multiple sources that are not on the 'net. I work directly with Matt Shaw from Jaeger Software (creator of Fighter Duel) on this content. As I said clearly in a note to my edits, citations will be forthcoming. It's not like the current page had good sourcing as it already had incorrect info (implying that Fighter Duel was available only in Europe.)

Jim Jimby000 (talk) 19:18, 31 March 2024 (UTC)Reply

@Jimby000: - Unsourced content may be challenged and removed at any time - sources should be added at the same time as the prose so they can be used to verify the content added. Editing an article about a game you were involved in making seems like a conflict of interest - see WP:COI. Directly editing articles about something you have a personal relationship to is generally discouraged. Waxworker (talk) 19:41, 31 March 2024 (UTC)Reply

Hi, Waxworker

I got a question? Does the photo of Joe Oriolo look real at Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Oriolo

It's because I found out photo was real at Cartoon Research operated by Jerry Beck: https://cartoonresearch.com/index.php/moonlighting-animation-artists-in-comics-joe-oriolo/ Oswald Vitor (talk) 23:01, 1 April 2024 (UTC)Reply

Hello. So my sources for the edits on the Benkei page were the games themselves. I'm not sure if I should just cite some youtube footage of said games as that's the best source that I can think of. Thoughts? I know Benkei does appear in those games and footage would definitely prove it. 76.144.163.45 (talk) 03:06, 2 April 2024 (UTC)Reply

@76.144.163.45: - Youtube is a generally unreliable source per WP:RSPYT - MOS:POPCULT also states that "Cultural references about a subject should not be included simply because they exist. A Wikipedia article may include a subject's cultural impact by summarizing its coverage in reliable secondary or tertiary sources" and that "A source should cover the subject's cultural impact in some depth; it should not be a source that merely mentions the subject's appearance". Reliable sources other than the games themselves would be necessary for verification and to show the appearances are notable. Waxworker (talk) 03:21, 2 April 2024 (UTC)Reply

It's edit pages on some shows 187.86.174.155 (talk) 10:57, 5 April 2024 (UTC)Reply

I want on I added Jakers! on Sprout during The Good Night Show & Sprout Sharing Show Please! -_- 187.86.172.175 (talk) 01:20, 6 April 2024 (UTC)Reply

What did you done! You removed all programs non-source. NewAnimationMan (talk) 01:26, 9 April 2024 (UTC)Reply

  Please do not remove or change content, as you did at Tooniverse, you may be blocked from editing. Please review the guidelines at Wikipedia:Citing sources and take this opportunity to add references to the article. Thank you. NewAnimationMan (talk) 01:53, 9 April 2024 (UTC)Reply

@NewAnimationMan: - Please see WP:BURDEN - reliable sources are necessary for verification, and the onus is on the editor adding content to provide sources for the information. Also see WP:NOTTVGUIDE - lists of things aired on a channel are not meant to list everything, only "major events, promotions or historically significant program lists". I think that the entire list of programs should be removed except for South Park, due to having a source and having a notable event surrounding it. Waxworker (talk) 03:41, 9 April 2024 (UTC)Reply

Please consider reverting your revert. Go to Companies House then click on the Filing History for JONATHAN ADAMS AND PARTNERS ARCHITECTS LIMITED and then click on the PDF for 17 September 2013 "Incorporation Model articles adopted", then scroll down to the 6th page under Director with a Date of Birth as 22/07/1961. Any problems, please let me know. SethWhales ^talk 18:17, 9 April 2024 (UTC)Reply

@Seth Whales: - I'm not sure that Companies House is a good source for the DOB in general - it seems like a WP:BLPPRIMARY issue. Waxworker (talk) 18:21, 9 April 2024 (UTC)Reply

@Waxworker: IMHO Companies House is one of the best sources, as it is a HM Government website and it would be illegal for the Director to falsify their DOB or any other information. On gov.uk it states "If you do not file your statement within 14 days of the end of your review period, your company and its officers may be prosecuted. Your company may also be struck off the register" I think this implies that the statement must be correct otherwise the company may be prosecuted. SethWhales ^talk 18:37, 9 April 2024 (UTC)Reply

@Seth Whales: - I'm saying it may not be suitable to use because it is a government website. WP:BLPPRIMARY states that "Do not use trial transcripts and other court records, or other public documents, to support assertions about a living person. Do not use public records that include personal details, such as date of birth, home value, traffic citations, vehicle registrations, and home or business addresses" - I'm not saying that the DOB on Companies House may be inaccurate, I'm saying that it may be unsuitable as it relies on government records. If sources other than government records don't cover it, I don't think it should be on the article due to WP:BLPPRIVACY concerns. Waxworker (talk) 18:44, 9 April 2024 (UTC)Reply

@Waxworker: Information on Companies House is Public Domain. I note that Companies House does not now use the full DoB due to possible I/D theft. However WP:BLPPRIMARY also states Wikipedia includes full names and dates of birth that have been widely published by reliable sources, or by sources linked to the subject such that it may reasonably be inferred that the subject does not object to the details being made public. Therefore, as I have found his DoB, anyone could do the same. If he wanted his full DoB removed, I'm sure Companies House would remove it if requested as per UK GDPR which gives individuals "the right to object to the processing of their personal data in certain circumstances". SethWhales ^talk 19:04, 9 April 2024 (UTC)Reply

@Seth Whales: - I do not think the DOB in this case is "widely published by reliable sources", and WP:BLPPRIMARY discouraging the use of government public records for personal information in biographies seems very clear. Waxworker (talk) 19:13, 9 April 2024 (UTC)Reply

Can you please elaborate on your revertion, why Serious Sam 4 level titled "In Carcassonne" cannot be mentioned in articles Carcassonne and Cité de Carcassonne as you wrote this is "unsourced"? I don't understand what do you expect, as in Carcassonne several other games are mentioned and none of them are "sourced". Why didn't you revert/delete any of these? Do you need an official confirmation from the game company about the level, a reference to other Wikipedia-like websites where the levels are described or what exactly? 85.253.80.86 (talk) 16:34, 12 April 2024 (UTC)Reply

@85.253.80.86: - Per WP:BURDEN, reliable sources are necessary for verification, and the onus is on the editor adding content to provide a source for it. MOS:POPCULT states that "Cultural references about a subject should not be included simply because they exist. A Wikipedia article may include a subject's cultural impact by summarizing its coverage in reliable secondary or tertiary sources" and that "A source should cover the subject's cultural impact in some depth; it should not be a source that merely mentions the subject's appearance". Reliable sources discussing the level and its cultural impact in depth would be necessary for verifiability and to demonstrate that the appearance is notable. I've removed the other unsourced content from Carcassonne - unsourced content may be challenged and removed at any time. Waxworker (talk) 19:52, 12 April 2024 (UTC)Reply

Hi and thank you for writing to me. May I ask? How come antoniogenna.net is not considered a reliable source? We commonly use it on the Italian Wikipedia on virtually all articles about voice actors, a topic on which it is practically the main source of information, and it often receives data directly from dubbing studios in Italy (professionals also tend to visit it to keep up to date). On the other end, is IMdB considered a reliable source? That's where I found the film roles I had added to the articles about Stefano De Sando and Gino La Monica.--Tespiano (talk) 14:16, 13 April 2024 (UTC)Reply

@Tespiano: - 'Antoniogenna.net' appears to be a WP:BLOG - I was unable to find any discussion of it in reliable sources, nor proof of getting "information directly from dubbing studios in Italy (professionals also tend to visit it to keep up to date)". IMDB is an unreliable source per WP:IMDB as it is WP:USERGENERATED. Waxworker (talk) 14:25, 13 April 2024 (UTC)Reply

Chiara Ferrari from University of Texas Press describes (page 140)* Antonio Genna as: "an invaluable online resource, kept up to date with the latest information about the industry practitioners, conferences, dubbing studios and so forth. The site is a key source for both scholars and practitioners interested in curent information about dubbing in Italy." It is not a blog (it also features a blog, but the pages I had linked don't belong to the blog section) and sees professional contributors, such as Nunziante Valoroso, an expert who also works in the Italian dubbing industry, mainly for Disney. As you can see in the main page, professionals are requested to email them to update their pages or point out mistakes. It is not a user-generated site. It also features a bibliography, which is the source of various information featured on the website. However, why did you also undo some of my contributions on Roberto Pedicini's page that had nothing to do with antoniogenna.net? Such as this, this or this?

*Since you might not be able to view it on the web archive, you may also check here.--Tespiano (talk) 18:08, 14 April 2024 (UTC)Reply

@Tespiano: - Based on what the book says Antoniogenna.net seems fine then - I've partially undone my revert on Roberto Pedicini, removing some unsourced roles. Waxworker (talk) 18:58, 14 April 2024 (UTC)Reply

Hello Waxworker,

Awhile ago, I added The Boss Baby as a list of credits that James Baxter had done, but you removed it stating it was unsourced.

He is on the Boss Baby IMDb page, he is listed in the animation department section.

https://m.imdb.com/title/tt3874544/fullcredits/animation_department?ref_=m_ttfc_14

Please add the Boss Baby into James Baxter’s wiki.

Have a nice day -3GoldBalls 3GoldBalls (talk) 02:05, 16 April 2024 (UTC)Reply

@3GoldBalls: - IMDB is an unreliable source per WP:IMDB as it is WP:USERGENERATED. Waxworker (talk) 14:43, 16 April 2024 (UTC)Reply

Thomas Season 6 7 and 8 First Aired on ITV and Thomas Season 9 10 and 11 First Aired on Five UKTVfromthepast (talk) 14:41, 16 April 2024 (UTC)Reply

@UKTVfromthepast: - Please see WP:BURDEN - a reliable source is necessary for verification. Waxworker (talk) 14:42, 16 April 2024 (UTC)Reply

I couldn't find anything on Google, but thanks for finding some magazines. I'll add them to the article later. I thought archive.org was only for website archiving, so it's useful to know I can look for other things there. StreetcarEnjoyer (talk) 16:54, 16 April 2024 (UTC)Reply

@StreetcarEnjoyer: - Archive.org gave 2000+ results for "Voodoo Castle" in text contents - I only quickly looked through the first few hundred results, so there's likely more good coverage buried alongside the brief mentions in catalogs/ads flooding what's there. Waxworker (talk) 17:04, 16 April 2024 (UTC)Reply

What did you done! You removed all programs in List of programmes broadcast by TV2 (Malaysia) 2001:D08:1029:9F0E:1:1:4E75:4E77 (talk) 09:11, 18 April 2024 (UTC)Reply

Do not removed all programs on List of programmes broadcast by TV2 (Malaysia) 2001:D08:1029:9F0E:1:1:4E75:4E77 (talk) 16:52, 18 April 2024 (UTC)Reply

(talk page stalker) Your contributions were removed because you didn't provide a reliable source. Please see WP:RS GrayStorm^{(Talk|Contributions)} 16:55, 18 April 2024 (UTC)Reply

Waxworker Do not removed all programs on List of programmes broadcast by TV2 (Malaysia) 2001:D08:1029:9F0E:1:1:4E75:4E77 (talk) 17:11, 18 April 2024 (UTC)Reply

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Thomas_%26_Friends_series_6&oldid=621861778 https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Thomas_%26_Friends_series_7&oldid=621861827 https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Thomas_%26_Friends_series_8&oldid=621861866 https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Thomas_%26_Friends_series_9&oldid=621861916 https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Thomas_%26_Friends_series_10&oldid=621861987 https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Thomas_%26_Friends_series_11&oldid=621862032 UKTVfromthepast (talk) 12:54, 22 April 2024 (UTC)Reply

@UKTVfromthepast: - Old revisions of the article are not a source - see WP:CIRCULAR. Reliable sources are necessary for verification - please see the warnings on your talk page. Waxworker (talk) 13:08, 22 April 2024 (UTC)Reply

Hmm... leave them be? I will go around updating the entries with refs soon. The Awards happened over the weekend. – robertsky (talk) 17:26, 22 April 2024 (UTC)Reply

Please, don't undo pages just because they're unsourced. Just give me a heads-up instead.

22:16, 23 April 2024‎ — Preceding unsigned comment added by 179.42.4.66 (talk)

Just CU blocked as a sock. Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Yyyttteeee Doug Weller talk 11:27, 24 April 2024 (UTC)Reply

Hi, is it only the IMDB links that are considered unreliable? I'd love to revert my edits back and provide a more reliable reference for all her awards. Tsukushiii (talk) 22:28, 25 April 2024 (UTC)Reply

@Tsukushiii: - Douban also doesn't appear to be reliable - a previous WP:RSN discussion here indicates that it is WP:USERGENERATED similar to IMDB. Waxworker (talk) 22:35, 25 April 2024 (UTC)Reply

Hello. I've seen you reverted what I added to List of fictional raccoons because of lack of sourcing. Well, it should be understood that a majority of what's listed that article is unsourced yet they get to stay. Why is my entry being singled out? 2603:8000:E800:5F4E:D1AC:DD4E:7E8F:AB48 (talk) 01:11, 28 April 2024 (UTC)Reply

@2603:8000:E800:5F4E:D1AC:DD4E:7E8F:AB48: - The onus is on the editor adding content to provide a source for it per WP:BURDEN - unsourced content may be challenged and removed at any time. There already being unsourced content on the article isn't a reason to add more. Waxworker (talk) 01:13, 28 April 2024 (UTC)Reply

Hello,

Why do you keep undoing my edits even when they are cited?

I do painstaking work in my local archival library in order to make these edits and I struggle to cite them.

I really try my best if there is any guidance you can offer as a prolific editor please do!

Regards, Theo :) Theodore Larson 1962 (talk) 02:50, 30 April 2024 (UTC)Reply

@Theodore Larson 1962: - Please stop adding unsourced content/content not in the source cited to articles. Much of what you're adding to articles appears to be hoaxes - such as the claim that a game contains a secret gamemode where Tiger Woods is fleeing from his wife in a car, or that Joe Biden visited a collapsed rock formation called Jump-off Joe. Hoaxes are disruptive and you may be blocked from editing if you continue to add them to articles. Waxworker (talk) 11:54, 30 April 2024 (UTC)Reply

What is wrong with my edit to The Very Hungry Caterpillar? CyberTheTiger (talk) 18:48, 1 May 2024 (UTC)Reply

@CyberTheTiger: - Please see MOS:OVERLINK - everyday words (such as days of the week, or something like 'leaf') shouldn't be bluelinked. Waxworker (talk) 18:56, 1 May 2024 (UTC)Reply

Hi, I'm unable to add new topics to the talk page of List of cities in Maharashtra by population, which you created. Why is this? IndianEmperor7 (talk) 21:54, 1 May 2024 (UTC)Reply

@IndianEmperor7: - I don't know why, you could ask at the WP:TEAHOUSE or possibly WP:TECHPUMP if there seems to be some kind of technical issue. Waxworker (talk) 22:02, 1 May 2024 (UTC)Reply

I spent most of the day yesterday expanding a tiny, out of date stub article, that just had 3 short paragraphs describing my financial game Wall Street Raider, which has paid users in 119 countries, and which I have self-published since 1990. The existing stub just mentioned my name, a sentence about what the game is about, and the fact it was published by a (long-defunct) publisher in 1989. So I expanded the article, explaining the various features of the game in some detail and correcting an error in the brief stub article, without touting the simulation in any way. However, my changes have been removed, since I didn't link to a source. How can I do that when I AM the source, both author and publisher? This is insane. I guess it's not possible for the creator of a product to describe it on Wikipedia. Never mind.... Better to let people find out about it in many places elsewhere on the web. I really hate mindless bureaucracies. WSRaider (talk) 23:43, 1 May 2024 (UTC)Reply

@WSRaider: - Please see WP:COI - directly editing articles in which you have personal involvement is discouraged. Coverage in secondary reliable sources (e.g. gaming news, magazines) is required for verification per WP:BURDEN. A list of reliable/unreliable gaming news sources determined by previous consensus may be found at WP:VG/RS. Much of the gameplay description you added also read promotionally rather than a neutral description of the game. Waxworker (talk) 00:12, 2 May 2024 (UTC)Reply

I have the episodes in German for Stanley and that's where I got the writer's names, idk how to properly source it, but please do not revert it again. If you're curious how I've got that, the entire series is available in German on Amazon and Apple TV, and in French on Apple TV VGPCVGCP (talk) 05:55, 2 May 2024 (UTC)Reply

Is it okay to cite a Wikipedia article of a show's episodes as a source? Any other sources don't seem very reliable as they are Wikia/Fandom. MikeEviscerate (talk) 00:42, 3 May 2024 (UTC)Reply

I did try checking the sources for that episode's information. A summary of the episode's plot was NOT provided in the source. (But a different disc source was mentioned elsewhere.) So, I don't know if that portion can even be considered a reliable source.

It did, however, cite some Amazon pages for disc releases. So, are those appropriate?

For now, I am going to re-add my edits and cite both the Amazon page and Wiki page, If there are issues, I will remove them. MikeEviscerate (talk) 00:57, 3 May 2024 (UTC)Reply

Okay, never mind, Wikipedia warns against Wikipedia references. Though, I did manage to cite an official source. So, no problem any more MikeEviscerate (talk) 01:46, 3 May 2024 (UTC)Reply

@MikeEviscerate: - Please see MOS:POPCULT, which states that "Cultural references about a subject should not be included simply because they exist. A Wikipedia article may include a subject's cultural impact by summarizing its coverage in reliable secondary or tertiary sources ... A source should cover the subject's cultural impact in some depth; it should not be a source that merely mentions the subject's appearance". The sources added for much of the pop culture section don't discuss Mare Tranquillitatis in depth, only in passing/just using the name - I've removed most of the entries. Amazon also isn't a great source, and a official source for Log Horizon is a primary source and doesn't show that the appearance is notable. Waxworker (talk) 07:36, 3 May 2024 (UTC)Reply

Hey there you dobt the source I used. Schnittberiche is the biggest german site that talks about censoing in videogames, music and movies. The sources are the two part compareson of these two versions I wrote in there. See the source: https://www.schnittberichte.com/schnittbericht.php?ID=3417 What is more reliable than a source actually talking about that 2 versions exist and goes thrugh all differences in them? DJ Kaito (talk) 13:26, 11 May 2024 (UTC)Reply

@DJ Kaito: - The site consists of WP:USERGENERATED articles and doesn't appear to be reliable at all - for instance, users 'earn XP' by writing posts for the site. Waxworker (talk) 14:53, 11 May 2024 (UTC)Reply

Hello, can I understand why my many edits are rolled back? Sdf (talk) 12:50, 13 May 2024 (UTC)Reply

@Sdf: - Please see WP:BURDEN - reliable sources are necessary for verification and to show that the characters are notable. Waxworker (talk) 13:39, 13 May 2024 (UTC)Reply

  Thank you for your edits on Paperboy (video game), which helped to solve a dispute over unexplained removal of content. Thanks,Neuropol^Talk 14:23, 13 May 2024 (UTC)Reply

On the Quick Draw article there was major inaccuracy, I support the right and correct things, Don M's Yowp blog is reliable because he actually was friends with Late Historian Earl Kress. From, Frenemie LilPuPut. Littlepuput8 (talk) 20:33, 17 May 2024 (UTC)Reply

Hi how are you? Listen, I'm sorry if I bother you, I'm writing to you because you are already aware of the situation. The IP that changes the dates of video games is back and is also a troll accusing me of vandalism, can anything be done? I'm talking about 2.196.186.69 (Madden NFL 2005) --Waxworker T 07:17, 18 May 2024 (CEST) 2.196.186.69 (talk) 07:24, 18 May 2024 (UTC)Reply

Waxworker I have sourced all the upcoming programming List of programmes broadcast by TV2 (Malaysia) 2001:D08:2085:C998:1:0:C7C8:AA2A (talk) 20:59, 19 May 2024 (UTC)Reply

Hello, you removed my edit on Matt Wayne's article because I didn't provide any source. Matt Wayne was credited onscreen as the writer of the latest episode of Knights of the Zodiac: Saint Seiya, as shown by this screenshot, but I'm not sure how to properly provide that source for the article. PurpleMarOne (talk) 23:22, 21 May 2024 (UTC)Reply

@PurpleMarOne: - An Imgur link is not a reliable source - see WP:USERGENERATED. A review of the episode in a reliable source mentioning his involvement would be a good source. Waxworker (talk) 00:22, 23 May 2024 (UTC)Reply

Hey there! Apologies on the missed citation, I meant to do so but I promptly forgot. I do have a source however, and it's the official DNEG website here. I'll try to update it myself but if not, at least I've provided the source link here.

Cheers! DecryptedPixel (talk) 20:06, 23 May 2024 (UTC)Reply

Done, let me know if I missed anything! DecryptedPixel (talk) 20:13, 23 May 2024 (UTC)Reply

Hi there! I noticed that you reverted/undo-ed my addition of Richard Tatum's voice role in the 2024 anime film "My Oni Girl" just by stating that its "unsourced". Why? The majority of his other VA roles (including "Cagaster of an Insect Cage") had no reference sources to begin with yet was added anyway.-Prince Silversaddle (talk) 20:06, 24 May 2024 (UTC)Reply

@Prince Silversaddle: - Please see WP:BURDEN - the onus is on an editor adding content to provide a source for it, and unsourced content may be challenged and removed at any time. There already being unsourced content on the article isn't a reason to add more. Waxworker (talk) 20:23, 24 May 2024 (UTC)Reply

What was the point of archiving my edit of her role in the Fairy Tail series even if it was unreferenced? There was clearly another role of hers that wasn't referenced and it's still present. Nonetheless you can look her character up on the Fairy Tail wiki and it displays her. JamTop1105 (talk) 03:17, 27 May 2024 (UTC)Reply

@JamTop1105: - Please see WP:BURDEN - reliable sources are necessary for verification, and there already being unsourced content on the article isn't a reason to add more. Fan wikis are an unreliable WP:USERGENERATED source, also see WP:FANDOM. Waxworker (talk) 03:19, 27 May 2024 (UTC)Reply

Again, another one of her roles was unsourced, yet remains, what's the difference with my edit?! And it's not a fan wiki, it's an official wiki, not to mention, how are they NOT reliable when they serve the same purpose as the real Wikipedia?! JamTop1105 (talk) 03:50, 27 May 2024 (UTC)Reply

@JamTop1105: Wikis are WP:USERGENERATED, which means they are unreliable sources. Per WP:BURDEN, the onus is on the editor adding content to provide sources for it. Waxworker (talk) 03:56, 27 May 2024 (UTC)Reply

I think you made a mistake. User:Waxworker, Jim Pebanco was included on Baker King. Check out on Baker King. Japan loves Joshua (talk) 09:20, 28 May 2024 (UTC)Reply

Waxworker Do not removed all programs on AXN Black 2001:D08:1A03:F2E5:1:0:FB2D:394F (talk) 12:23, 28 May 2024 (UTC)Reply

Waxworker keep The Adventures of Peter Pan on [3] as you can see from illustrations of Neverland in [4] Nippon's website it is floating in the sky also this website that shows actual illustrations taken from the anime ^[3] (User talk:CSOOCS) 23:40, 28 May 2024 (UTC) if it's un-sourced then specify and I will resolve itReply

@CSOOCS: - Coverage in secondary sources discussing this would be necessary for verification and to show that it is notable - as well as to verify the claim that it is "presumably an allegory for Takaamagahara". The official site for the series isn't a suitable source for this. Zerochan is an image board and not a reliable source, and the image you linked is noted as being fanart, not official art. Waxworker (talk) 23:39, 28 May 2024 (UTC)Reply

(User talk:CSOOCS) Waxworker Pinterest contains stills based on the artwork taken from the anime shouldn't this be suitable source material 23:59, 28 May 2024 (UTC)^{[4] [5][6]}Reply

@CSOOCS: - Social media sites such as Pinterest generally aren't reliable sources as they are WP:USERGENERATED. Waxworker (talk) 00:02, 29 May 2024 (UTC)Reply

@CSOOCS: - These are all unreliable sources - I recommend reading Help:Referencing for beginners or asking at the WP:TEAHOUSE for guidance regarding reliable sources. Waxworker (talk) 00:20, 29 May 2024 (UTC)Reply

(User talk:CSOOCS) Waxworker What would you call a reliable source then? What website should I look for that is acceptable? 00:29, 29 May 2024 (UTC) (User talk:CSOOCS) Waxworker Here is a anime planet that shows an image of Neverland in it ^[7] Here's a genuine image from ebay ^[8] I removed all trace "presumably an allegory for Takaamagahara" because I can't find anything for it in english 00:12, 29 May 2024 (UTC)Reply

i did not add or change content, List of programmes broadcast by TV2 (Malaysia) i did add or change content, AXN Black 2001:D08:1A03:F2E5:1:0:FB2D:394F (talk) 00:29, 29 May 2024 (UTC)Reply

Hiya! You deleted my changes to Matthew Porretta's page saying I didn't provide a reliable source, but most of the other things listed in his filmography don't have sources, either. IMDB is listed as unreliable for wikipedia, but I'm assuming a screenshot of him in said media isn't considered reliable either, nor would a screenshot of the credits? Would reviews of the media that mention him work? I will attempt to add some sources, but it seems counterproductive to delete information that can be independently verified by simply looking at the media itself just because there isn't a "reliable" secondhand source on the internet. Annachibi2 (talk) 00:31, 30 May 2024 (UTC)Reply

@Annachibi2: - A screenshot of the credits wouldn't be a reliable source unless it was a reliable publication (Variety, Deadline Hollywood, etc) providing the screenshot, as a screenshot taken by someone and hosted on something like Imgur would be WP:USERGENERATED. Reviews of the media mentioning his role would be suitable sources - per WP:BURDEN, the onus is on the editor adding content to provide sources to verify it. Waxworker (talk) 00:43, 30 May 2024 (UTC)Reply

Okay, some are proven like Farmer Al Falfa's appearance in Jack's Shack in 1934, also in 2000 B.C. in 1931, that He Dood It Again is from February 5, 1943, and that Super Mouse Rides Again it is from August 6, 1943, in the article it is after July 28 and with the date of June 8, 1943, in the searches you removed I got most of the information from IMDb, some from Wikipedia,These first ones that I warned about were just for you to correct, from what source did you get these dates? Chantillyboy (talk) 00:36, 31 May 2024 (UTC)Reply

@Chantillyboy: - IMDB and Wikipedia are unreliable WP:USERGENERATED sources per WP:IMDB and WP:CIRCULAR. Per WP:BURDEN, reliable sources are necessary for verification. Waxworker (talk) 00:40, 31 May 2024 (UTC)Reply

Hello, I am new to wikipedia and recently made a change to UltraSurf. There was an link on cite [2] which is broken. When a user clicks on the link it redirects you to a blog page named "Proudly Canadian" which totaly irrelevant to UltraSurf which is a VPN. So, I have removed the link and added a reliable source of UltraSurf where a user can get review, download, check features and explore FAQs of UltraSurf. But today when I checked I found that you have reverted the changes and makred it as spam link. For doing this, the broken link came back. As I know according to WikiPedia guidelines, if a link is irrelevant or redirect to a irrelevent page is called spam link. So, I removed that spam link and added relevant link which doesn't go against any WikiPedia guidelines. So, I think it is a mistake. Let me know what you think about it. SJSiam (talk) 12:24, 31 May 2024 (UTC)Reply

@SJSiam: - Please see WP:LINKSPAM - the links you added are not to official downloads, repeatedly adding links to the same site has the appearance of attempting to promote the site, and in the case of Cadillacs and Dinosaurs, linking to a pirated version of the game is a copyright issue per WP:COPYLINK. I've also re-removed the spam blog link you removed. Waxworker (talk) 23:29, 31 May 2024 (UTC)Reply

Thanks for the update. I agree that I made a mistake in Cadillacs and Dinosaurs and I apologize for it.

About the official downloads, there are another link in Ultrasurf which is not official download cite [10]. Should I remove it? SJSiam (talk) 04:00, 1 June 2024 (UTC)Reply

@SJSiam: - Removing it seems fine. Waxworker (talk) 03:08, 3 June 2024 (UTC)Reply

@Waxworker Removed the link. SJSiam (talk) 07:20, 3 June 2024 (UTC)Reply

It was naughty of you to undo my edit on the list of programs broadcast by Discovery Family like that. You need to understand that Baby Looney Tunes clearly isn't airing on the channel anymore, according to this. Jonghyunchung (talk) 21:38, 31 May 2024 (UTC)Reply

@Jonghyunchung: - It is not clear according to what you linked that it is no longer airing on the channel - it's just a TV guide listing "A complete schedule of absolutely everything airing on Discovery Family over the next two weeks" - it could air more than two weeks from now. A reliable source explicitly stating that it is no longer airing on the channel is necessary for verification. Waxworker (talk) 21:44, 31 May 2024 (UTC)Reply

What you just said is an unfair punishment for my good-faith editing. Because Discovery Family removed Baby Looney Tunes for June 2024, it clearly deserves to stay in the list of former programming and should not be put back in the current programming list at this time. Jonghyunchung (talk) 21:54, 31 May 2024 (UTC)Reply

 

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If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and removing the speedy deletion tag. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 17:27, 3 June 2024 (UTC)Reply

...but why did you call this vandalism? Drmies (talk) 00:06, 6 June 2024 (UTC)Reply

@Drmies: - This is a recurring issue on this article and the article for the show itself - an IP keeps adding obviously false nonsense about rape and murder to episode descriptions of a cartoon aimed at teenagers. Waxworker (talk) 00:17, 6 June 2024 (UTC)Reply

Aha! Interesting. Now I see it, yes--sorry, but if you, User talk:Eejit43 and User talk:Davemck had indicated a bit more explicitly, I'd have done something about it earlier. I've blocked the (larger) range for a while, and if this ever happens again, please report or notify me, and I'll be happy to semi-protect the article from this big baby. Thanks, Drmies (talk) 00:32, 6 June 2024 (UTC)Reply

Hi! I understand the logic behind most of your recent reverts on List of United States Christmas television episodes, but I wasn't quite clear on the most recent undo, which was an anon adding a date to a line where a year was already specified. It seems to me that the date of the broadcast of a television episode wouldn't fall under the four key buckets cited at WP:CHALLENGE, nor have I ever encountered an editor with a desire to source such outside of exceptional cases. Totally understand requiring new entries to the list altogether to have a cited source, but it just feels a little heavy handed to remove such basic and fundamental information that would almost certainly never have its verifiability challenged. Would be interested in discussing a little further. - Wezzo (talk) 13:37, 7 June 2024 (UTC)Reply

@Wezzo: - Per WP:BURDEN a source is necessary for verification - I think that date changes is definitely something that requires a source. Air dates for TV shows is a frequent area of disruption. Waxworker (talk) 16:02, 7 June 2024 (UTC)Reply

Thanks for saving Category:Lightning Fish games! A user named Gjs238 removed the category from Adidas miCoach and Get Fit with Mel B and then another user named Explicit requested the category's speedy deletion, I've only been on Wikipedia for less than a year, so I thought they were doing it because it had to be done, but you added the category back to the pages and removed the speedy deletion request, so thanks! MKsLifeInANutshell (talk) 14:35, 8 June 2024 (UTC)Reply

I know I am too late to reply and talk about this issue but still... See, from your user page, it has become very clear to me that you mostly make your contributions to video games on Wikipedia, so, you must be aware of the fact that source indicating a composer of a video game might not be available on the Internet. It might be but not in a proper way. So, all I want to say is, please tell me how to add a reference for the composer of Dinosaur King i. e. Salamander Factory. I once even tried, but, it was not in proper format and things like “<ref>” were visible. So, please help me. Thanks Amogh Tripathi (talk) 19:01, 8 June 2024 (UTC)Reply

@Amogh Tripathi: - I recommend reading Help:Referencing for beginners for guidance around formatting, and WP:VG/RS has a list of reliable/unreliable sources related to video games that have previously been discussed. Archive.org may also have magazines discussing the game that would be a suitable source. Waxworker (talk) 23:38, 8 June 2024 (UTC)Reply

Thank you very much. Amogh Tripathi (talk) 05:20, 9 June 2024 (UTC)Reply

sorry for citing a magazine as a journal ―Howard • 🌽³³ 06:47, 10 June 2024 (UTC)Reply

Hello Waxworker, For anwsering your question: I found it in MobyGames. You have almost all the details on video games. Dr floflo 974 (talk) 13:16, 11 June 2024 (UTC)Reply

@Dr floflo 974: - Mobygames is an unreliable WP:USERGENERATED source per WP:VG/RS. Waxworker (talk) 13:19, 11 June 2024 (UTC)Reply

I'd like to know why this edit was reverted. [5] Bugs Bunny obviously appears in the film (small appearance, but the likes of "An Itch in Time" and "Daffy Doodles" aren't any more significant), the image is even used on a Cannes listing for Book Revue. [6] If the film itself isn't a proper source, that's a problem with the entire section, not just my edit. YuckieDuck (talk) 22:31, 11 June 2024 (UTC)Reply

@YuckieDuck: - I've removed the rest of the unsourced 'Cameo appearances' section. In addition to being unsourced, the section seems trivial to note to me - while the Cannes link verifies the cameo, I don't think that it demonstrates that it is notable. Waxworker (talk) 23:46, 14 June 2024 (UTC)Reply

Thank you for reporting issues to various noticeboards, but there is a recurring issue with you reporting unsourced content issues to AIV which is only for obvious vandalism or obvious spam. Most of your reports do not meet that requirement. I reviewed your most recent 10 reports to AIV, and 9 of them were for unsourced content. Even 1 would be too many, but 9 is out of control. You can report problematic users continuing to make unsourced edits after being warned or blocked to ANI. Or, if the issue is also a BLP violation such as contentious material that is unsourced, you can report it to BLPN. Please do not make further reports of non-vandalism and non-spam issues at AIV. Daniel Quinlan (talk) 03:56, 12 June 2024 (UTC)Reply

@Daniel Quinlan: @ToBeFree: - Pinging ToBeFree for their input as they've previously discussed my AIV reports with me. My understanding is that addition of unsourced content is a form of disruptive editing and is fine to report at AIV for straight-forward issues, like this /64 making persistent unsourced date changes and this IP adding unsourced content after final warning and they've been blocked for disruptive editing four times previously that I reported yesterday. If this is an issue I can make these reports at ANI instead, but I generally think of ANI as the place for complicated issues rather than something that can be summarized in a sentence like at AIV. Waxworker (talk) 13:31, 12 June 2024 (UTC)Reply

That is not correct. The criteria for AIV is obvious vandalism or obvious spam. In fact, the scope of AIV doesn't even include subtle vandalism. Unsourced content issues often require a deeper dive into article content and history, sometimes involving citation checks and finding new sources. That is a time-consuming process, a world apart from the type of obvious issues that can be quickly handled at AIV by any administrator without discussion. In contrast, ANI and other noticeboards are designed for non-obvious issues that often require discussion, allow others to contribute, and provide an opportunity for good-faith editors to respond.

In short, reporting unsourced content and other non-obvious issues to AIV diverts attention from handling clear cases of vandalism and spam quickly. Daniel Quinlan (talk) 20:17, 12 June 2024 (UTC)Reply

I'm not sure I agree. An IP range that repeatedly adds unsourced content despite final warnings and/or previous blocks (and no communication) doesn't necessarily need to go to ANI. As an admin I can take a 5 second glance at the /64 or /24 contribs and know that a block is required. Kicking it to AN/I is a timesink and I can almost guarantee that the response will be "why aren't you reporting these to AIV?". I think that, like every other admin area, the parameters we feel comfortable taking action in vary and there are many AIV patrolling admins that find such blocks an easy call.-- Ponyo^{bons mots} 20:31, 12 June 2024 (UTC)Reply

You're contradicting the instructions on WP:AIV as well as the AIV guide, instructions that I believe are serving us well. In addition to what I said above, another concern I have is that it's a false economy. Unsourced content reports are often appropriately closed by various administrators, and it doesn't help Wikipedia if those reports disappear into the archive. Even if some cases are relatively straightforward, most of these cases require much more than a 5-second investigation. Acting too hastily without proper investigation can result in unfair warnings and blocks. If ANI is too heavyweight of a venue for reports about users persistently ignoring warnings about unsourced content, then we should have a discussion about how to better address these kinds of reports. I think a case could be made for a separate noticeboard that's somewhere between ANI and AIV in terms of complexity and overhead. Daniel Quinlan (talk) 21:42, 12 June 2024 (UTC)Reply

Hi Waxworker, Ponyo, Daniel Quinlan, thanks for the ping. I'm thankful for every report of disruptive non-obvious-vandalism editing that doesn't end up at AIV, which is in theory dedicated to "obvious vandalism" and "obvious spam" and should never have a backlog because clicking any report there should make every admin rush to the block button. I understand your and Ponyos position, but that isn't the noticeboard's official purpose and I take such reports thinking: "It's not a bureaucracy, the report should probably not be here, sending the reporter elsewhere makes them unhappy and lets the disruption continue for a while, and the easiest way to make everyone happy while improving the encyclopedia is to invest a larger-than-anticipated amount of time into dealing with it so others don't have to". To be fair, I do often end up enjoying dealing with the issue, but the initial thought is "sigh". ~ ToBeFree (talk) 21:31, 12 June 2024 (UTC)Reply

Hi. Unfortunately, it appears Lee did appear as a celebrity judge on an episode of RuPaul's Drag Race ([7], [8]), so ... Tkaras1 (talk) 23:36, 14 June 2024 (UTC)Reply

@Tkaras1: - The original edit was unsourced - the articles you linked seem fine for re-adding it to the article with sourcing. Waxworker (talk) 23:40, 14 June 2024 (UTC)Reply

https://news365.az/megogo-tv-azerbaycanda-tamamile-bloklandi I used this URL, but i couldn't add this link. This information is also added to Azerbaijani version, please, restore my correction. Aabrothers21 (talk) 19:03, 17 June 2024 (UTC)Reply

@Aabrothers21: - Why are you unable to add the link as a source? I checked your filter log and it was empty, and the site doesn't appear to be blacklisted. Waxworker (talk) 19:15, 17 June 2024 (UTC)Reply

https://az.wikipedia.org/wiki/Megogo Information about this is mentioned here. Megogo is not available in Azerbaijan. Aabrothers21 (talk) 06:54, 18 June 2024 (UTC)Reply

I'm first in WiKipedia. I don't know some of the functions of Wikipedia. Aabrothers21 (talk) 06:56, 18 June 2024 (UTC)Reply

I really wonder if Dwayne Hill has ever provided any voices for "Little Bear".Carlitosbug (talk) 13:09, 18 June 2024 (UTC)Reply

Please clarify why you continually remove film credits as unsourced that CLEARLY are listed on the imdb page that is one of the only two sources of info linked to the page?! 193.42.0.197 (talk) 10:41, 21 June 2024 (UTC)Reply

@193.42.0.197: IMDB is an unreliable WP:USERGENERATED source per WP:IMDB. Per WP:BURDEN, a reliable source is necessary for verification. Waxworker (talk) 10:53, 21 June 2024 (UTC)Reply

I do have evidence that WZME's MeTV Toons subchannel is indeed 720p. It shows up in VLC Media Player as such. I use a Hauppauge TV tuner with TVHeadend running on a Pi 4 to receive the channel. How can I use this as a source on the page? Nylix4488 (talk) 23:59, 22 June 2024 (UTC)Reply

@Nylix4488: - That seems like WP:OR - a reliable source needs to say this, see WP:VERIFY. Waxworker (talk) 00:16, 23 June 2024 (UTC)Reply

Hi! This is to let you know that the fact that Keita Okamoto composed music for Pokémon Sword and Shield is sourced, already sourced on Wikipedia. You can check it on its DLC Counterparts. It is mentioned there. Hoping that you will not revert/undo my edit. Amogh Tripathi (talk) 18:57, 26 June 2024 (UTC)Reply

@Amogh Tripathi: - The articles for the DLC do mention Keita Okamoto, but the credit is similarly unsourced there and not discussed in the body of the article, plus I don't think adding him as a composer for the base game is apt if they only worked on the DLC. A reliable source is necessary for verification and to show that the credit is notable. Waxworker (talk) 14:41, 27 June 2024 (UTC)Reply

okay, thanks. Amogh Tripathi (talk) 14:46, 27 June 2024 (UTC)Reply

Hello. I came to know that MobyGames is an unreliable source for video games information from you. But, almost all video game articles take at least some information from MobyGames. Also, MobyGames has an approval system for information I guess. Correct me if I am wrong. And by the way, some information can't be added without MobyGames. Please reply. Amogh Tripathi (talk) 14:43, 27 June 2024 (UTC)Reply

@Amogh Tripathi: - Mobygames is an unreliable source per WP:VG/RS as it is WP:USERGENERATED, and I disagree that "almost all video game articles take at least some information from MobyGames". If no reliable sources mention it, it shouldn't be added to the article. Waxworker (talk) 14:49, 27 June 2024 (UTC)Reply

But, I see some articles taking information from MobyGames. Amogh Tripathi (talk) 14:55, 27 June 2024 (UTC)Reply

@Amogh Tripathi: - Information sourced to Mobygames should be removed as it is unreliable. Mobygames is fine as an external link under the 'external links' section, but not as a source. Waxworker (talk) 14:57, 27 June 2024 (UTC)Reply

Damn! Then, how will I add that information on Wikipedia? Okay, thank you for taking your time to reply. Amogh Tripathi (talk) 14:59, 27 June 2024 (UTC)Reply

Hi There is a new article on Rautu Ka Raaz, which is a movie featuring Nawazuddin Siddiqui. Request you to have a look into into it is possible and provide feedback. It is a film featuring National Film Awards winning actors and have been a part of credible festivals. Regards Noyonjp (talk) 16:04, 27 June 2024 (UTC)Reply

Wow seriously? Undoing all my edits... All this information comes from that external link (IMDb) on the pages mentioned. I've been doing it this way for years. I find it bizarre that you are now throwing away my hours of work like this. RuedNL2 (talk) 15:24, 29 June 2024 (UTC)Reply

@RuedNL2: - IMDB is an unreliable WP:USERGENERATED source per WP:IMDB. Waxworker (talk) 15:25, 29 June 2024 (UTC)Reply

On most of the pages that I have edited now and you have undone, all that filmography information is usually unsourced and comes from the same external link, IMDb. In addition, some are even literally mentioned in the existing Wikipedia article projects! RuedNL2 (talk) 15:31, 29 June 2024 (UTC)Reply

@RuedNL2: - Unsourced content may be challenged and removed at any time, and anything sourced to IMDB ought to be removed. Per WP:BURDEN, the onus is on the editor adding content to provide sourcing for verification. Waxworker (talk) 15:36, 29 June 2024 (UTC)Reply

I get what you mean. But then it's better to start deleting all those filmographies instead of undoing my edit. Because literally 80% of the pages you undo are unsourced. RuedNL2 (talk) 15:42, 29 June 2024 (UTC)Reply

I have already undone some of your edits and provided sources... although I think it is ridiculous because it is often the only source in the entire table. In any case, I thought your motto was "the solution is to improve, not delete", so it would be nice if you could help find the sources instead of just undoing everything easily. RuedNL2 (talk) 16:05, 29 June 2024 (UTC)Reply

Waxworker is right in that IMBd should not be used. The Internet is full of sources. (archived via the Wayback Machine and none archived). Stuff like Newspapers.com, ProQuest etc also exist as alternatives. (which can be accessed via the Wikipedia Library) Timur9008 (talk) 16:13, 29 June 2024 (UTC)Reply

I get it. But doesn't anyone find it strange that I am being looked at? While adding sourceless projects to a SOURCELESS TABLE? It must be just me. I will provide sources for these edits and then I will withdraw completely for the time being. Cheers RuedNL2 (talk) 16:37, 29 June 2024 (UTC)Reply

Good evening, I have sourced all the information as best I could. I know some of them aren't the best, but hopefully they're good enough. RuedNL2 (talk) 18:17, 29 June 2024 (UTC)Reply

You undid the addition of Multiversus for Wicked Workshop.

They have worked on the game and are listed in the game as a developer.

Multiple programmers at Wicked Workshop have also listed Multiversus as a project on their LinkedIn KingSaucy (talk) 02:10, 2 July 2024 (UTC)Reply

@KingSaucy: - LinkedIn is a generally unreliable source per WP:RSPLINKEDIN - a reliable source would be necessary for verification before adding it to the article. Waxworker (talk) 00:20, 7 July 2024 (UTC)Reply

You need to create an article about the iOS game The Jim and Frank Mysteries – The Blood River Files because it's a great adventure and puzzle game for iOS 2600:1008:B143:B5D7:AD66:964:4E0C:7DB8 (talk) 00:17, 3 July 2024 (UTC)Reply

Hi, I noticed you reverted Zenki in the list and mentioned that www.animenewsnetwork.com is unreliable. May I know how is it unreliable? Looking at its page references, you could see www.animenewsnetwork.com all over there. 122.54.207.156 (talk) 01:58, 6 July 2024 (UTC)Reply

@122.54.207.156: - The encyclopedia portion of Anime News Network is an unreliable WP:USERGENERATED source per WP:ANIMENEWSNETWORK, articles written by staff (the non-encyclopedia portion of the site) is a reliable source. Waxworker (talk) 12:56, 6 July 2024 (UTC)Reply

You don't have to edit what i ve edited. I said that MBC Action used to air TNA , i used to watch it on that channel too. The source is on the wikipedia itself like i said https://simple.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_programmes_broadcast_by_MBC_Action .

The channel airs WWE too. It's not that hard to read your own pages on wiki and get this info. I repeat wikipedia itself 's got a page of their programming and WWE and TNA 's got to stay on the mbc action main page.

Then before i ve described the satellites where it's broadcasted , but i ll edit it better with satellites websites. Why do you think is not important to explain this stuff? It's important because it describes that is not just a middle east channel but with the right satellite dish it's avalaible in Europe too. I used to watch it from Italy. Nj nick Champion (talk) 03:54, 10 July 2024 (UTC)Reply

@Nj nick Champion: - Wikipedia itself is an unreliable source per WP:CIRCULAR as it is WP:USERGENERATED. A reliable source is necessary for verification. Waxworker (talk) 01:55, 12 July 2024 (UTC)Reply

Ok i haven't found mbc action tna links at the moment, neither on youtube ( since they ve added wwe instead of tna , probably with time they ve deleted tna links and videos) i haven't even looked for so much, but if you think that another wikipedia page is not a reliable source , you should talk to the other moderators who check that page instead of saying that anyone is not a reliable source on wiki Nj nick Champion (talk) 10:46, 17 July 2024 (UTC)Reply

@Nj nick Champion: - Youtube is a generally unreliable source per WP:RSPYT unless the channel uploading the video is a reliable source, and I'm unsure what you mean by "you should talk to the other moderators who check that page instead of saying that anyone is not a reliable source on wiki", can you elaborate? Waxworker (talk) 03:21, 19 July 2024 (UTC)Reply

...this,[9] those are two songs which appear in the cartoon (sung by Bea Benaderet and Billy Bletcher, respectively), though not the complete songs, just a few lines. I thought it would be interesting for readers to be able to hear the entire songs from within the article, rather than having to Google them as I did. ←Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots→ 01:12, 12 July 2024 (UTC)Reply

@Baseball Bugs: - I don't think having these in the external links section is very beneficial to the reader, and the uploader of the Ella Fitzgerald song doesn't appear reliable. Waxworker (talk) 01:23, 12 July 2024 (UTC)Reply

As you wish. ←Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots→ 01:26, 12 July 2024 (UTC)Reply

Hi. Sorry, my IP changed after a sudden internet disconnection at work. I am the user you left a talk message to on my old page. I think you were tad unfair in reverting my edits, because on the Joan of Arc television episodes section many have cited IMDb as a reference for the episodes, but you only omitted my edit. I believe that, whilst rightfully removing the unreliable source, you should have kept the additions as act of good faith, since many other users have added unsourced entries (in the other articles' Television adaptations sections, such as Three Little Pigs). The show Manga Fairy Tales of the World indeed has adapted the fairy tales/fables that you have reverted. I hope I can find reliable, accepted sources for such episodes. But so far it seems like only IMDb has these episodes and animenewsnetwork. Above all, I just don't think removing ALL my additions were constructive. Thanks. 220.235.144.134 (talk) 08:44, 12 July 2024 (UTC)Reply

@220.235.144.134: - If no reliable sources discuss the episodes, I don't think they should be on the articles - reliable sources are necessary for verification and to show that the depictions are notable. Please see MOS:POPCULT, which states that "Cultural references about a subject should not be included simply because they exist ... A source should cover the subject's cultural impact in some depth; it should not be a source that merely mentions the subject's appearance in a movie, song, television show, or other cultural item". I also don't think that there being other content that's unsourced/sourced to unreliable sources is reason to add more. Waxworker (talk) 03:46, 14 July 2024 (UTC)Reply

Sorry Waxworker, I made bad edits on that page yesterday, I won't do in again Waxworker.

Thank You! 2A02:C7C:C826:3A00:8562:BC7E:E3FD:3747 (talk) 13:34, 16 July 2024 (UTC)Reply

Dude you really had to ruin my edits of Disney XD Canada, Sidekick (YTV show) and Grossology (YTV show)!!!! unlike YOU, I do my research on stuff!!c revert the edits now!!!

 

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You recently removed and archived my addition to the Ashley Newbrough entry but no other page requires a citation for every addition to the list of credits for an actor, especially those who make multiple movies per year for Great American Family or Hallmark. COBill (talk) 10:54, 18 July 2024 (UTC)Reply

@COBill: - Please see WP:BURDEN - content needs to be sourced to reliable sources for verifiability, and unsourced content may be challenged and removed. Waxworker (talk) 03:18, 19 July 2024 (UTC)Reply

The page had already gone unupdated for years; now I see why. COBill (talk) 08:05, 19 July 2024 (UTC)Reply

My entry to Yodels was removed for not having a source. The source was the actual movie that I was watching at the time. Yodels are in the movie Welcome to the Dollhouse. No source is needed when I'm watching the movie with my own eyes. Theblakex (talk) 21:01, 19 July 2024 (UTC)Reply

@Theblakex: - Please see MOS:POPCULT, which states that "Cultural references about a subject should not be included simply because they exist. A Wikipedia article may include a subject's cultural impact by summarizing its coverage in reliable secondary or tertiary sources ... A source should cover the subject's cultural impact in some depth; it should not be a source that merely mentions the subject's appearance in a movie, song, television show, or other cultural item". A reliable source is necessary for verification and to show that the appearance is notable. Waxworker (talk) 21:06, 19 July 2024 (UTC)Reply

It's mentioned several times throughout the movie, so it became obvious. I thought it belonged on the Wikipedia page. Never mind. How do I cite a source for a movie I'm in the middle of watching? Theblakex (talk) 21:09, 19 July 2024 (UTC)Reply

Good day, Waxworker! At 19:03, June 28, 2024, you "Undid revision 1231516245 by 173.218.83.167" citing it as "unsourced." That revision was not my own, but I do appreciate the reference to the MASH episode and think it should be added (without the misspellings and grammatical errors of the original edit, of course). Before doing so, I'd like to ask about sourcing. First, what qualifies as a reliable source when citing lines from television episodes? From the looks of your talk page, many of the "go to" places for movies and shows are referenced as "unreliable". Second, there are numerous references under the "Media" section of the "Mickey Finn (drugs)" article that are also not sourced. Why are those entries allowed to remain but the reference to the MASH episode was not? I have no personal beef with any of this; I just want to make sure my desired addition will not be reverted due to sourcing issues. Thanks! Connah0047 (talk) 11:21, 20 July 2024 (UTC)Reply

@Connah0047: - Per MOS:POPCULT, "Cultural references about a subject should not be included simply because they exist. A Wikipedia article may include a subject's cultural impact by summarizing its coverage in reliable secondary or tertiary sources ... A source should cover the subject's cultural impact in some depth; it should not be a source that merely mentions the subject's appearance in a movie, song, television show, or other cultural item". A reliable source needs to discuss the cultural impact of the appearance - a non-exhaustive list of reliable/unreliable sources may be found at WP:RSP. The 'Society and culture' section has many unsourced/poorly sourced (e.g. WP:IMDB, WP:GENIUS, etc) entries that could be removed, it's just that nobody's challenged them yet. Waxworker (talk) 07:22, 21 July 2024 (UTC)Reply

This explanation makes perfect sense to me and sounds very reasonable. Thanks for your input! Connah0047 (talk) 09:37, 21 July 2024 (UTC)Reply

Excuse me, it's me Cre8tivDemby. The guy who added the article about Yoshi from Dolittle (2020) in List of fictional bears. Although I left out a citation, my article should be added back because Yoshi from the movie Dolittle is a fictional bear. I believe you've made a mistake by removing it. Please let me put it back. Thank you. Cre8tivDemby (talk) 15:12, 20 July 2024 (UTC)Reply

@Cre8tivDemby: - A reliable source is necessary for verification per WP:BURDEN - sourcing is also necessary to show that the character is notable. Waxworker (talk) 05:58, 21 July 2024 (UTC)Reply

Waxworker Do not removed all programs on Draft:List of Slot English Series 8TV (Malaysia) 2001:D08:1C11:F50:17E3:56E1:9166:4E0F (talk) 20:41, 22 July 2024 (UTC)Reply

Thank you for pointing out the omission of a resource regarding Joe Pera's birthday in my recent edit. I have addressed the issue and updated the edit with the necessary information. I appreciate your attention to detail in ensuring accuracy. Jdarias93 (talk) 01:10, 26 July 2024 (UTC)Reply

Hello. It's impossible to find the source, so, i do not know really what to do. It was late at night, like 1:00 and i think no one was up at those hours. I hope you will understand. If you want to contact me further, we can do it on Discord. The user is l0ll3._ Regards, l0ll3. (i know im talking a lot, but im trying to be polite) Wikil0ll3a (talk) 20:34, 27 July 2024 (UTC)Reply

@Wikil0ll3a: - A reliable source is necessary for verification per WP:BURDEN - if no reliable sources discuss it, it shouldn't be on the article. I discuss matters with other users on-wiki, not Discord. Waxworker (talk) 03:23, 28 July 2024 (UTC)Reply

https://www.forum.hr/showthread.php?p=81752691

Found one.

If you do not understand Croatian, ask me for translation. Wikil0ll3a (talk) 16:54, 17 August 2024 (UTC)Reply

@Wikil0ll3a: - Forum threads are an unreliable WP:USERGENERATED source. Waxworker (talk) 18:27, 18 August 2024 (UTC)Reply

I noticed you twice reverted the addition of Bonus Tracks to the Free Design album. I do not know the contributor who originally added them, but I added them as a separate section just for the sake of completeness. I see you have reverted my change. I don't really care if the bonus tracks appear or not, but I am curious why you insist that they not be listed. Thanks. Johnwellsking (talk) 14:40, 2 August 2024 (UTC)Reply

@Johnwellsking: - The edits were unsourced - reliable sources are necessary for verification per WP:BURDEN. Waxworker (talk) 07:23, 5 August 2024 (UTC)Reply

Thanks. I added links to two of the bonus tracked reissues. Johnwellsking (talk) 19:38, 5 August 2024 (UTC)Reply

Hello there. I was supposed to add the Kinect cast for the actor as seen in the game's end credits and all I could find were these two sources: https://www.metacritic.com/game/harry-potter-for-kinect/details/ and https://www.behindthevoiceactors.com/video-games/Harry-Potter-for-Kinect/ which the latter is per WP:RSPBTVA. 103.3.81.66 (talk) 22:09, 5 August 2024 (UTC)Reply

@103.3.81.66: - BTVA is a fine source. Waxworker (talk) 07:49, 6 August 2024 (UTC)Reply

Ok. Then I guess ill add back. Hope this might work. 103.3.81.66 (talk) 12:12, 6 August 2024 (UTC)Reply

I did not like the way you punished me again with "Undid revision [1226875229] by Jonghyunchung (talk) unsourced". The edit I made is 100% truthful. Jonghyunchung (talk) 11:36, 6 August 2024 (UTC)Reply

I'm sorry to tell you this but the note i added in about the episode King Ramses Curse being shown on the VHS tape Scooby Doo And The Alien Invaders is real. And I should know because I have the video and it said so for real. Please let me add that back in and please buy the video on eBay and try to see for yourself. JonHaroldMeyer96 (talk) 20:59, 6 August 2024 (UTC)Reply

I agree with JonHaroldMeyer96. Waxworker, you need to stop punishing users for posting truthful edits. Jonghyunchung (talk) 02:52, 7 August 2024 (UTC)Reply

@JonHaroldMeyer96 and Jonghyunchung: - Reliable sources need to be cited for verification per WP:BURDEN, and to demonstrate that this is notable and worth noting in the article. The cited The Daily News source does not mention anything about Courage the Cowardly Dog. Waxworker (talk) 03:03, 7 August 2024 (UTC)Reply

But the episode King Ramses Curse is on the video tape of the movie. You have to believe me. JonHaroldMeyer96 (talk) 04:22, 7 August 2024 (UTC)Reply

@JonHaroldMeyer96: - Reliable sources that discuss it need to be cited - see Help:Referencing for beginners. Waxworker (talk) 04:29, 7 August 2024 (UTC)Reply

Why cited? JonHaroldMeyer96 (talk) 02:36, 8 August 2024 (UTC)Reply

Hi Waxworker, it's not worth removing my edit to List of Xbox network games. I have a reliable source, a spreadsheet is being used for getting info on tested games on the Xbox Live revival server project, Insignia. I am also using in-game tests to check out Xbox Live functionality. None of the other games have a source either, but I am ensuring these are correct too. Unfortunately, the spreadsheet link must remain private, but if you are keen, I can provide screenshots of all the info, or extract the info into an .xls and use that. 2407:7000:AE1E:700:6CA5:FFD2:F19:B923 (talk) 09:18, 10 August 2024 (UTC)Reply

@2407:7000:AE1E:700:6CA5:FFD2:F19:B923: - Reliable sources are necessary for verification - see WP:BURDEN. If no reliable sources can verify this information, it shouldn't be on the article - see WP:OR - original research not published in reliable sources shouldn't be used. Waxworker (talk) 10:00, 10 August 2024 (UTC)Reply

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Shadow_Kingdom

Neither comic adaptation referenced had a source quoted either but both are easily verifiable with Google. So why did my edit need to cite one? 0xD34D (talk) 17:58, 10 August 2024 (UTC)Reply

@0xD34D: - Per WP:BURDEN, onus is on the editor adding content to cite a source verifying the content. There already being unsourced info on the article isn't a reason to add more. Waxworker (talk) 14:52, 12 August 2024 (UTC)Reply

Hi, regarding your deletion of my additions for being unsourced on the WBFE page, I'm interested in knowing how those movies were sourced in the first place. Films like The Pagemaster, Air Bud, and Gumby are listed (which are local WBFE releases by my research), yet they weren't mentioned on their respective Wikipedia pages and it's unsourced on the main WBFE page. I do have several sources regarding my additions. The production company that worked on those Dutch films, Bos Bros. mentioned Warner Bros. as the main distributor for both "The Flying Liftboy" and "Miss Minoes" on their official website. The trailer for The Flying Liftboy on that site also shows the WBFE logo at the beginning. Does a website like that count as source? So far as I know, it IS an official source related to those films.

https://bosbros.com/en/portfolio/abeltje/ https://bosbros.com/en/portfolio/minoes/ TheDutchArchivist (talk) 22:44, 17 August 2024 (UTC)Reply

@TheDutchArchivist: - The linked sources say "Warner Bros NL" for distribution, not explicitly Warner Bros. Family Entertainment. The linked page for The Flying Liftboy does have a trailer that has the Warner Bros. Family Entertainment logo, but I don't think a logo at the beginning of a Youtube video is a strong enough source showing that the studio's involvement is notable. The rest of the list is similarly unsourced, but onus is on the editor adding content to cite a source verifying the content per WP:BURDEN, and there already being unsourced content isn't a reason to add more. I recommend reading Help:Referencing for beginners for guidance regarding citing sources. Waxworker (talk) 16:56, 20 August 2024 (UTC)Reply

To be fair, the video is from the company's official YT page and not a random user, I'm aware of Wikipedia's stance on YouTube. I could bring up those films' old DVD/VHS releases, but I'm not sure if I could find an official source. with that said, I will check out Help:Referencing for beginners and see if I could figure something out in the process. TheDutchArchivist (talk) 17:33, 20 August 2024 (UTC)Reply

I was trying to add these images too for the wiki page. But I don't know how, because Wikimedia is too complicated. The images are actually, idk how to make it like I made it myself.

PES/Winning Eleven 5: [10] (Shunsuke Nakamura)

PES 2/Winning Eleven 6: [11] (Masashi Nakayama)

PES 3/Winning Eleven 7: [12] (Zico, who coached Japan from 2002-2006)

PES 4/Winning Eleven 8: [13] (Zico)

PES 5/Winning Eleven 9: [14] (Shunsuke Nakamura & Zico)

PES 6/Winning Eleven 10: [15] (Shunsuke Nakamura & Zico)

Honorable mention:

PES 2010/Winning Eleven 2010 Aoki Samurai no Chōsen: [16] (Japan national football team + Torres & Messi) Johnny C Baker (talk) 08:37, 18 August 2024 (UTC)Reply

@Johnny C Baker: - I don't think that pictures of the covers are in of themselves a source, especially since several of them don't specifically name who's pictured on the cover somewhere on the cover. Reliable sources need to be cited that discuss this - a (non-exhaustive) list of reliable/unreliable sources related to video games may be found at WP:VG/RS. Uploading additional covers to add to the articles when covers are already in the infobox also seems unnecessary and a fair use concern - see WP:NONFREE for guidelines regarding minimal use of copyrighted content. Waxworker (talk) 18:40, 18 August 2024 (UTC)Reply

It's hard to find japanese website that literally explain the cover players, you know. Even if there's one, there's a possibility that they no longer exists or their domain was sold. Johnny C Baker (talk) 11:12, 19 August 2024 (UTC)Reply

oh wait, there is, but it's winning eleven 5 only so far.

イメージキャラクターに横浜F・マリノス中村俊輔を起用コナミ、PS2「ワールドサッカーウイニングイレブン5」

KONAMI, World Soccer Winning Eleven 5 for PS2, featuring Shunsuke Nakamura of Yokohama F Marinos as the image character.

Johnny C Baker (talk) 11:15, 19 August 2024 (UTC)Reply

I've seen what you've removed and the reason behind it. Yes, I suppose the fandoms are pretty unreliable, therefore I'll take your advice and keep out of fandom for references. However, when I checked what I had removed, I really didn't remove much. I removed the expand section template (I dont know if I'm allowed to do that! Please educate me about that) as it was fullfilled. I removed some information about the flamethrowers, heat seeking missiles, etc and added them into the Fandom paragraph. So, really, I hadn't removed anything besides the template. Let me know if I'm wrong. Cheers. Ggzion (talk) 04:44, 21 August 2024 (UTC)Reply

@Ggzion: - Aside from the WP:FANDOM content, the edit also removed the infobox without explanation. Removing maintenance templates when the issue has been dealt with is fine, but in this case the added content was also unreliably sourced so the issue wasn't really resolved. For future reference, a (non-exhaustive) list of reliable/unreliable sources related to video games may be found at WP:VG/RS. Waxworker (talk) 15:27, 21 August 2024 (UTC)Reply

Stop it 209.198.248.123 (talk) 00:04, 23 August 2024 (UTC)Reply