Talk:Saola

this sounds awkward "To date, all known captive saolas have been dead, leading to the belief that this species cannot live in captivity."

"...have been dead ..." might be: "...have died..." —Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.19.52.21 (talk) 02:33, 3 September 2009 (UTC)Reply

• Rare saola dies after capture in Laos • Ling.Nut 13:04, 16 September 2010 (UTC)Reply

It is possible that Hmong use this term for the animal but it is a Thai term, in the Thai language, perhaps also in Lao. It might be better to say 'The animal is known locally as...'.

Should the article mention that the "Asian Unicorn" is not actually a Unicorn? The Saola is believed to the creature behind myths of the "Qilin", a mythical Unicorn-like creature with two horns. The confusion about a Unicorn having two horns comes entirely from the inappropriate translation.

Who cares what the hell they call it? Complain about something relevant, maybe like it won't be long before there aren't any to name at all. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.119.151.233 (talk) 09:56, 13 November 2013 (UTC)Reply

Jeannie Thomas Parker in The Mythic Chinese Unicorn [1] says that Saola is not connected in any way to the qilin, but she believes it is an inspiration behind another Chinese unicorn, the xiezhi. I would like to know if there are any other sources on that subject.--192.198.151.43 (talk) 08:32, 20 May 2015 (UTC)Reply

The huemul was mentioned exactly once, in the context of cloning -- "However, the lack of huemul female donors, receptive females and the interspecific barriers greatly compromise the success of cloning technique" -- and neither explained nor linked. "Huemul" is another name for the South Andean deer, which makes sense in this context. I've changed "huemul" to "South Andean deer", with a link. --Thnidu (talk) 04:53, 28 January 2017 (UTC)Reply

The 00:33, 2 July 2016 edit by 110.169.91.72 inserts an enigmatic parenthetical that appears to be entirely out of place as far as I can tell and completely incomprehensible in context ("by connotation that 'Priceless, like the moon and the stars'"), albeit with a reference. Can someone who is able to read the Thai article referenced look into whether something meaningful and relevant was intended here, and if so clean it up, and if not remove it? 134.134.139.75 (talk) 07:44, 2 June 2017 (UTC)Reply

Could someone consider adding a pronunciation guide at the beginning of this article? 192.55.54.39 (talk) 07:59, 2 June 2017 (UTC)Reply

Sumanuil, you altered my edit, wherein I changed "last" to "first", and you changed it back. The reason I changed it was because I was unaware of a photo of it being taken after 1999, and 1999 was not the first time a wild saola was photographed. In fact, there has never been a domesticated saola, only wild ones in captivity, which is also in the Smithsonian Magazine article I referenced. According to the article, it implies that the photo was taken in June 1993 (the photo is of one of 2 that "...hunters turned over to Tuoc and his colleagues in Hanoi. Within months, the pair succumbed to infections.", and other references here say that is correct. So, it seems we are both wrong. The first photo of a wild Saola was in 1993, and the last in 2013. I've adjusted the text to reflect this. ReveurGAM (talk) 05:00, 13 December 2021 (UTC)Reply

Fine by me. Just be more careful in future. - Sumanuil (talk) 05:02, 13 December 2021 (UTC)Reply

You, as well. ReveurGAM (talk) 05:04, 13 December 2021 (UTC)Reply

I check pages listed in Category:Pages with incorrect ref formatting to try to fix reference errors. One of the things I do is look for content for orphaned references in wikilinked articles. I have found content for some of Saola's orphans, the problem is that I found more than one version. I can't determine which (if any) is correct for this article, so I am asking for a sentient editor to look it over and copy the correct ref content into this article.

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• From Thomson's gazelle: IUCN SSC Antelope Specialist Group. 2018. Eudorcas thomsonii (errata version published in 2020). The IUCN Red List of Threatened Species 2018: e.T8982A172360006. https://dx.doi.org/10.2305/IUCN.UK.2018-2.RLTS.T8982A172360006.en. Downloaded on 18 April 2021.
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• From Yak: Buzzard, P.; Berger, J. (2016). "Bos mutus". IUCN Red List of Threatened Species. 2016: e.T2892A101293528. doi:10.2305/IUCN.UK.2016-2.RLTS.T2892A101293528.en. Retrieved 12 November 2021.
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I apologize if any of the above are effectively identical; I am just a simple computer program, so I can't determine whether minor differences are significant or not. AnomieBOT⚡ 08:58, 16 January 2022 (UTC)Reply

can we replace the picture because I for one can't understand what is going on in the picture (especially the head. Edward Zeke Rivera (talk) 11:55, 28 January 2024 (UTC)Reply

We don't have any free equivalents. It is looking back, which is maybe why it is hard to decipher. But I am doubting whether even this photo is actually free, its sourcing info seems dubious. FunkMonk (talk) 13:00, 28 January 2024 (UTC)Reply

what? why did we use it even if it's sourcing is dubious? Edward Zeke Rivera (talk) 17:27, 11 February 2024 (UTC)Reply

There is no "you", there are hundreds of editors who don't know each other who edit these articles. If we're lucky, a better image is published in a freely licenced journal article one day. FunkMonk (talk) 17:42, 11 February 2024 (UTC)Reply

There are only four photos ever published of this animal alive. You get a new photo every decade if you're lucky, but it's been 11 years since the last one was took. If another one does get took, and it is free, then sure we can use it, but it is highly unlikely. WikiHmmmm... (talk) 08:00, 13 February 2024 (UTC)Reply

Sounda about right Edward Zeke Rivera (talk) 16:45, 15 February 2024 (UTC)Reply