Talk:Cryosphere

Most of the article was originally taken from the EOS Science Plan, a NASA publication that is in the public domain (according to the general NASA rules and personal correspondence with the editor). Text was first added in 2006; has been subsequently modified. -- phoebe / (talk to me) 02:50, 2 May 2009 (UTC)Reply

I don't know how to, can someone revert that vandalism?

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The first archive is OK, but the second did not preserve the video. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 10:42, 3 December 2016 (UTC)Reply

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How the BIOsphere is worked there Shaik irfan Meera (talk) 05:29, 27 January 2018 (UTC)Reply

Under Glaciers and Ice Sheets; Currently;

Ice sheets are …holding approximately 77% of the global total. This corresponds to 80 m of world sea-level equivalent,

Is 74.7m, using 77% (cited here), of 3.465 E+16 tonne (or m³) (2.5% of 1.386E+18) cited at Hydrosphere,

and 66.9m using the 68.9% cited at Hydrosphere. MBG02 (talk) 20:31, 23 August 2018 (UTC)Reply

Article requires new update on the state of the cryosphere, due to be released on the 25th of September. Viriditas (talk) 21:57, 23 September 2019 (UTC)Reply

I think this further reading list is not adding value for our readers, so I have removed it:

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EMsmile (talk) 10:59, 25 September 2023 (UTC)Reply

Most of this article was written in 2006 in this one big edit. Many articles from the climate change group of topics link to this article. I think it's in need of updating but I think we should mostly use excerpts from other articles. E.g. the whole section about permafrost could be replaced with an excerpt from permafrost (a soon to be GA article). Similarly with the content about melting ice sheets and so forth. In general, I would say it's best to keep this article short, and to point readers to the relevant articles that describe the changes that are due to the effects of climate change. Thoughts? EMsmile (talk) 11:16, 25 September 2023 (UTC)Reply

I've now replaced some of that unsourced or outdated content with excerpts. I think it's better this way. The term "cryosphere" is really just an umbrella term for a lot of "things" for which we have more detailed sub-articles. So this parent article should not go into too much detail itself. EMsmile (talk) 07:49, 26 September 2023 (UTC)Reply

Pinging 3 people who I think might have an interest and might like to comment regarding further to-dos with this article: User:Femke, User:InformationToKnowledge and User:Chidgk1 in case they have time to take a quick look at this and comment. Thanks. EMsmile (talk) 07:49, 26 September 2023 (UTC)Reply

Considering how at least one of the now-replaced parts was primarily based on a reference that was literally a half-century old, excerpts could have only been an improvement, so I am glad to see that happen!

Otherwise, all the "citation needed" tags are clearly not the way any article should look, but I am not sure if I'll find the time to work on this particular article any time soon. I feel like there are unfortunately still too many significantly flawed articles that are of higher priority. InformationToKnowledge (talk) 18:34, 27 September 2023 (UTC)Reply

Thanks for taking the time to comment and for agreeing in principle that excerpts are an improvement here. Further work needed (as usual). EMsmile (talk) 09:11, 12 October 2023 (UTC)Reply