Talk:1913 Gettysburg reunion
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Photos
editThere are some photos of this at "The Commons" on Flickr - see [1] cmadler (talk) 19:56, 22 June 2010 (UTC)
Name
editThe National Park Service refers to this as the "Great Reunion of 1913" -- that's the source of the previous article title. Did they just make that name up? (I suppose that's certainly a possibility.) Or was it a popular but unofficial name? cmadler (talk) 14:04, 12 February 2011 (UTC)
- The NPS uses "Great Reunion of 1913" as the title for the webpage (which does not appear to have ever been cited in the article as a source), and the NPS does not use that as the name of the reunion in the body of the article. That is, the body of their web article uses the similarly-fabricated (and also not in the official report) proper name "Great Reunion at Gettysburg", not 'Great Reunion of 1913' (one is missing when and the other is missing where). The current wikiarticle title has the when-where-what wikiformat for wikiarticle names regarding events (e.g., 1983 Kuwait bombings, 1938 Gettysburg reunion, 1950 Mason-Dixon Line F-84 crash, et al). For example, since "Great Reunion of 1913" does not identify location, if it were used as the target hypertext on another page, the location would need to also be added for clarity on the linking wikipage. Target for Today (talk) 22:07, 12 February 2011 (UTC)
Dissenting sentiments
editthere were some dissenters who thought that the reconciliation theme went too far in obscuring what the war ended up being fought for, as seen in "The Great Illusion of Gettysburg" by Yoni Appelbaum, The Atlantic, Feb 5 2012... -- AnonMoos (talk) 18:20, 2 July 2013 (UTC)
- Yes, this article is an example of the difficulties in over-reliance on newspaper sources of the day. It does not address the facts that the "reconciliation" was developed among overwhelmingly white troops, and was part of a process of evading issues remaining from the abolition of slavery, such as emancipation and racial justice, over which the war had been fought. Black troops had made major contributions to the Union during the war. Historian David W. Blight explored this gap in the reconciliation story in his 2001 book Race and Reunion: The Civil War in American Memory. Beginning in the late 19th century, this was also the era when numerous Confederate monuments were being erected across the South, and the Daughters of the Confederacy and Sons of Confederate Veterans were also active in creating the myth of the "Lost Cause" and the gracious feudal South of slave societies.Parkwells (talk) 16:01, 30 June 2019 (UTC)
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Hands across the wall?
editThe wiki page for the 1938 Gettysburg Reunion states: July 3, Sunday (President's Day)... Veterans shook hands across the stone wall at The Angle as during the 1913 Gettysburg reunion.
But there is no mention of this here. Valetude (talk) 13:58, 25 May 2018 (UTC)
Gaps in article
editThis article lacks historical perspective: There is no mention here of African-American veterans of the USCT - of their sacrifices and whether they attended the events, nor of the fact that by this time, the Southern states had re-established white supremacy by new constitutions and laws passed from 1890 to 1908 that overwhelmingly disenfranchised most freedmen and their children, and many poor whites. They also passed laws imposing racial segregation and related Jim Crow customs for public schools, facilities, and even retail stores - conditions that were maintained well into the late 20th century. President Woodrow Wilson re-imposed segregation in federal offices for the first time since after the war. Parkwells (talk) 15:54, 30 June 2019 (UTC)
- If you can find sources that cover such, then go ahead and add said info to the article. Thebrakeman2 (talk) 15:22, 11 March 2022 (UTC)
- Parkwells, you are absolutely right, and there is even more missing. The reunion was a symbol for the reconciliation of White Northerners and White Southerners. Black veterans (members of the Grand Army of the Republic) had been invited, but didn't attend, since they knew that they were not welcome. An excellent book is Race and Reunion by David Blight, and I'd really like to add something from that book, but didn't find the time yet. If you have sources and resources (i.e. time), go ahead. Rsk6400 (talk) 16:49, 11 March 2022 (UTC)