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When I find that the conversations or issues discussed here have either ended or resolved, they will be inserted into my archives at my own discretion.—Ryūlóng


e's not dead, e's just restin'

Though the ink is not yet 100% dry, reports of your demise may have been premature. Guerillero moved to oppose, which based on T. Canen's conditional support, movies his vote to oppose as well. Or something. Tarc (talk) 20:39, 28 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I already nuked my watch list. Great.—Ryūlóng (琉竜) 20:40, 28 January 2015 (UTC)
Do you know how freeing a good watch list nuke is? I do. Hipocrite (talk) 20:52, 28 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Yea I did that once too, a ton of crap that I long ago abandoned, every album art cover I uploaded, no need to watch all that anymore. Start from scratch...and leave every WP:* 'tard board off...maybe narrow the focus a little, it'll be fun. Tarc (talk) 20:55, 28 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]
A lot of my watchlist was to deal with ongoing long term vandalism.—Ryūlóng (琉竜) 21:15, 28 January 2015 (UTC)

Loganmac is disrupting Tokumei Sentai Go-Busters now.—Ryūlóng (琉竜) 21:08, 28 January 2015 (UTC)

@Tarc and Hipocrite: [1]—Ryūlóng (琉竜) 21:11, 28 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Yea, I'm out the door for dinner date but I left a message for HJ Mitchell, who is a fair admin and is familiar with Logan. IMO this is about as clear cut a case of baiting/stalking as one can get. Tarc (talk) 21:21, 28 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]
And they're still quibbling so hopefully we didn't get your hopes up too much. It seems it'll depend on Canens himself providing a clarifying remark. Tarc (talk) 21:23, 28 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]
And this is why you should keep your watchlist nuked for a bit (assuming that T Canens meant what I think he meant, and you avoid the ban). Quit thinking about the quality of the encyclopaedia for a bit and focus on your peace of mind. Guettarda (talk) 21:24, 28 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]
I've only got my regular pages on there now.—Ryūlóng (琉竜) 21:26, 28 January 2015 (UTC)

Well it was a nice few hours considering all of the bullshit going on behind the scenes on the mailing list.—Ryūlóng (琉竜) 22:08, 28 January 2015 (UTC)

Sorry that you died again. My email is enabled, so if you need something specific changed on a specific article, contact me and I'll review the merits on my own per WP:BAN and consider making the edit myself based on my independent and fully formed review of your proposals and stuff. Hipocrite (talk) 22:10, 28 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Just watch Tokumei Sentai Go-Busters and its related pages and Kamen Rider OOO (character) (maybe some related pages). The official trademark trumps a single frame from the TV show and a stupid fandom insistence otherwise.—Ryūlóng (琉竜) 22:12, 28 January 2015 (UTC)
I was commenting more on a go-forward-for-a-year basis. Hipocrite (talk) 22:14, 28 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Those are really the only pages I'm worried about. Also maybe that BuickCenturyDriver/Don't Feed the Zords will return to troll List of Power Rangers Dino Charge episodes. ALl I do is update a bunch of episode lists because I put in too much of a complex formatting for anyone to possibly use on their own.—Ryūlóng (琉竜) 22:15, 28 January 2015 (UTC)
Roger. Provide a list and I will guarantee coverage. I can do the formatting. Post the list to HipocriteRLWatcher so I can segregate the watchlists. Thanks Hipocrite (talk) 22:17, 28 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Salvidrim hit the wrong button on me so I can't do that atm.—Ryūlóng (琉竜) 22:18, 28 January 2015 (UTC)
@Hipocrite: what do you want me to do again.—Ryūlóng (琉竜) 22:19, 28 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Make a page with your watchlist that I can watch to figure out what I'm supposed to do while you're gone. Hipocrite (talk) 22:20, 28 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]
The formatting I have on List of Kamen Rider Drive episodes is unnecessarily complex though.—Ryūlóng (琉竜) 22:26, 28 January 2015 (UTC)
Are you... challenging me? Hipocrite (talk) 22:27, 28 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Here's the thing. I update List of Ressha Sentai ToQger episodes, List of Kamen Rider Drive episodes, List of Yo-Kai Watch episodes, List of Garo: The Animation episodes, and JoJo's Bizarre Adventure: Stardust Crusaders on a weekly basis. This involves translating the episode titles, watching the little "next time on..." clip, translating the episode summary for a one sentence summary for Wikipedia, check who the writer is for the episode, and then make sure that people don't fuck up the formatting after I've made a new entry. I've already filled out the final episodes of ToQger and started up List of Shuriken Sentai Ninninger episodes for good measure, even though the titles are tentative and I don't like that color I picked out. Do you seriously want to pick up the slack in these multiple pages that requires knowing something about the plot and deciphering Google Translate's jumbled up garbage because the reading comprehension I gained in Japanese is somewhat waning?—Ryūlóng (琉竜) 22:33, 28 January 2015 (UTC)
Can I do that if my Japanese is limited to, basically the names of the attacks and defenses that a student of Aikido who has never traveled west of Hawaii would know? Wait, don't answer that, it's just going to depress both of us. Hipocrite (talk) 22:36, 28 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Wait, you mean episode guides don't magically appear on their own? :) Guettarda (talk) 22:37, 28 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]
I'd suggest some fanblogs to use for double checking, but I learned fairly recently that they're just copying what I had been writing for all of the entries. They're going to be totally fucked over after this case. Take that JEFusion and Orends Range.—Ryūlóng (琉竜) 22:38, 28 January 2015 (UTC)
I forgot I also update JoJolion monthly.—Ryūlóng (琉竜) 22:45, 28 January 2015 (UTC)
Best wishes to another good contributor that arbcom has dismissed. I hope to see you in the future. Hell in a Bucket (talk) 22:20, 28 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]
It's clear no one wants me around simply because I raised the issue that their 1RR proposal was already causing me grief.—Ryūlóng (琉竜) 22:23, 28 January 2015 (UTC)
Having seen multiple socks stalk you I understand completely why it's unworkable...it sets you up to be never stop harrassed.Hell in a Bucket (talk) 22:26, 28 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Based on my sources from back when I got ArbCommed, you were likely the casualty of one arb threatening to blow the whole place up if they didn't get what they wanted. I don't know who, because I took a long wikipedia break, and have no idea who the majority of the committee are now. I can't believe I delayed clearing my name from the horrendous ClimateChange ban for GamerGate! Hipocrite (talk) 22:27, 28 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]
It's fairly obvious that it was either a full site ban or a 1RR ban was going to pass. But maybe this is a blessing in disguise because I was so fucking tired of updating those episode lists.—Ryūlóng (琉竜) 22:33, 28 January 2015 (UTC)

Ryulong, I can't comment on any ongoing arbcom case or the like. However, you can find your watchlist key in preferences -> watchlist -> Near the bottom and email an individual it. They will then be able to view your watchlist. What I've not figured out is where you enter the darned thing. Tutelary (talk) 22:22, 28 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

@Salvidrim!: You hit the wrong button.—Ryūlóng (琉竜) 22:18, 28 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Oops! ☺ · Salvidrim! · ✉ 22:22, 28 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I wanted to make White Light (Superfly song) but fuck it.—Ryūlóng (琉竜) 22:25, 28 January 2015 (UTC)

24 hours! Let's go out with my first FA. Hipocrite (talk) 22:28, 28 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]
White (Superfly album) probably does need to be created, and surely will be at some point. ☺ · Salvidrim! · ✉ 22:29, 28 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]
This is all I have on either at the moment. Haven't checked BARKS.jp to see if they have anything different.—Ryūlóng (琉竜) 22:35, 28 January 2015 (UTC)
Yeah this is all Barks has.—Ryūlóng (琉竜) 22:39, 28 January 2015 (UTC)
At least someone wrote Shine Like a Billion Suns without me.—Ryūlóng (琉竜) 22:42, 28 January 2015 (UTC)

@Hipocrite and Hell in a Bucket: I emailed both of you my watchlist token.—Ryūlóng (琉竜) 22:44, 28 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I found out where you enter it at. Tutelary (talk) 22:55, 28 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

List of Ressha Sentai ToQger episodes (soon to be List of Shuriken Sentai Ninninger episodes) and List of Kamen Rider Drive episodes updates every Saturday (EST). The first updates at 6 pm EST and the other 6:30 pm EST (jumping forward with the change to EDT). The Ninninger page might need to have its reference links updated because I just copied the old entry on another page and assumed that the link formatting would be exactly the same. Someone's going to have to start a List of Shuriken Sentai Ninninger characters page at some point.

List of Garo: The Animation episodes and JoJo's Bizarre Adventure: Stardust Crusaders update every Friday. I'm fairly certain that these update around noon but I just get to them when I remember that the episode aired. Garo has hidden templates with instructions and such in them (check the writer, etc.) and Stardust Crusaders has all of the episodes preplanned but no titles. I think List of Yo-Kai Watch episodes updates on this day too. I can't remember.

A new issue of Ultra Jump comes out every month on the 19th so unless it's taking a break for the month which happens every so often JoJolion is updated this often too. I use this website to pull the new UJ chapter titles from and if a new volume comes out I just try my best to search for blogs posting them and the volume's title.—Ryūlóng (琉竜) 23:00, 28 January 2015 (UTC)

I used to also update List of Yo-Kai Watch characters with cast member updates but I stopped caring a while back.—Ryūlóng (琉竜) 23:07, 28 January 2015 (UTC)

Parasyte updates Wednesdays. I check this TV schedule for the next week's episode.—Ryūlóng (琉竜) 23:49, 28 January 2015 (UTC)

@Hipocrite: There it is again.—Ryūlóng (琉竜) 00:20, 29 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Hm, well, sorry...I really thought they were backing away from the precipice as they did with TDA. Tarc (talk) 01:24, 29 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Ryulong -- do you have any friends on the Power Rangers Wiki, or related wikias? Perhaps you could edit there, that would allow you to retain focus on your zone of interest.Not even Mr. Lister's Koromon survived intact. 14:32, 30 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Suggestion

I think you might benefit from a few days away from Wikipedia. You're under stress. DS (talk) 22:40, 28 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Um... I'm going to assume you are unaware... Hipocrite (talk) 22:41, 28 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]
This doesn't seem particularly helpful EvergreenFir (talk) Please {{re}} 22:41, 28 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Citations

Should I announce some published scientific articles I worked on while I was in Okinawa?—Ryūlóng (琉竜) 22:43, 28 January 2015 (UTC)

Would this mean GG would know where you work? They've been trying to get other wiki-editors fired from their jobs, so you should probably keep that in mind. Bosstopher (talk) 23:09, 28 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Troubling decision

When ArbCom fails to take the world into account, it makes the angels cry.
A really poorly thought out decision. I am sorry it landed this way and the ArbCom will be sorry shortly when they realize what harm they have wrought. -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 23:06, 28 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/GamerGate closed

This arbitration case has been closed and the final decision is available at the link above. The following remedies have been enacted:

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(i) The community Gamergate general sanctions are hereby rescinded and are replaced by standard discretionary sanctions, which are authorized for all edits about, and all pages related to, (a) GamerGate, (b) any gender-related dispute or controversy, (c) people associated with (a) or (b), all broadly construed.

(ii) All sanctions in force when this remedy is enacted are endorsed and will become standard discretionary sanctions governed by the standard procedure from the moment of enactment.

(iii) Notifications issued under Gamergate general sanctions become alerts for twelve months from the date of enactment of this remedy, then expire. The log of notifications will remain on the Gamergate general sanction page.

(iv) All existing and past sanctions and restrictions placed under Gamergate general sanctions will be transcribed by the arbitration clerks in the central discretionary sanctions log.

(v) Any requests for enforcement that may be open when this remedy is enacted shall proceed, but any remedy that is enacted should be enacted as a discretionary sanction.

(vi) Administrators who have enforced the Gamergate general sanctions are thanked for their work and asked to continue providing administrative assistance enforcing discretionary sanctions and at Arbitration enforcement.

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Uninvolved administrators are encouraged to monitor the articles covered by discretionary sanctions in this case to ensure compliance. To assist in this, administrators are reminded that:

(i) Accounts with a clear shared agenda may be blocked if they violate the sockpuppetry policy or other applicable policy;

(ii) Accounts whose primary purpose is disruption, violating the policy on biographies of living persons, or making personal attacks may be blocked indefinitely;

(iii) There are special provisions in place to deal with editors who violate the BLP policy;

(iv) The default position for BLPs, particularly for individuals whose noteworthiness is limited to a particular event or topic, is the presumption of privacy for personal matters;

(v) Editors who spread or further publicize existing BLP violations may be blocked;

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(vii) Discretionary sanctions permit full and semi-page protections, including use of pending changes where warranted, and – once an editor has become aware of sanctions for the topic – any other appropriate remedy may be issued without further warning.

The Arbitration Committee thanks those administrators who have been helping to enforce the community general sanctions, and thanks, once again, in advance those who help enforce the remedies adopted in this case.

2.1) Any editor subject to a topic-ban in this decision is indefinitely prohibited from making any edit about, and from editing any page relating to, (a) Gamergate, (b) any gender-related dispute or controversy, (c) people associated with (a) or (b), all broadly construed. These restrictions may be appealed to the Committee only after 12 months have elapsed from the closing of this case.

4.1) NorthBySouthBaranof (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) is indefinitely restricted per the standard topic ban.

5.1) Ryulong (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) is indefinitely restricted per the standard topic ban.

5.3) Ryulong (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) is indefinitely banned from the English Language Wikipedia. They may request reconsideration of the ban twelve months after the enactment of this remedy, and every twelve months thereafter.

6.2) TaraInDC (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) is admonished for treating Wikipedia as if it were a battleground and advised to better conduct themselves.

7.2) Tarc (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) is indefinitely restricted per the standard topic ban.

7.3) Tarc (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) is strongly warned that should future misconduct occur in any topic area, he may be banned from the English Wikipedia by motion of the Arbitration Committee.

8.2) The Devil's Advocate (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) is indefinitely restricted per the standard topic ban.

8.3) Subject to the usual exceptions, The Devil's Advocate (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) is prohibited from making any more than one revert on any one page in any 48-hour period. This applies for all pages on the English Wikipedia, except The Devil's Advocate's own user space. This restriction may be appealed to the Committee only after 12 months have elapsed from the closing of this case.

8.4) Subject to the usual exceptions, The Devil's Advocate (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) is indefinitely prohibited from editing any administrative or conduct noticeboard (including, not not limited to; AN, AN/I, AN/EW, and AE), except for threads regarding situations that he was directly involved in when they were started. This restriction may be appealed to the Committee only after 12 months have elapsed from the closing of this case.

8.5) The Devil's Advocate (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) is strongly warned that should future misconduct occur in any topic area, he may be banned from the English Wikipedia by motion of the Arbitration Committee. Further, the committee strongly suggests that The Devil's Advocate refrains from editing contentious topic areas in the future.

9) TheRedPenOfDoom (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) is admonished for treating Wikipedia as if it were a battleground and advised to better conduct themselves.

10.1) The Arbitration Committee endorses the community-imposed topic ban preventing Tutelary (talk · contribs) from editing under the Gamergate general sanctions. This ban is converted to an Arbitration Committee-imposed ban. Tutelary (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) is indefinitely restricted per the standard topic ban.

12) The Arbitration Committee endorses the community-imposed topic bans preventing ArmyLine (talk · contribs), DungeonSiegeAddict510 (talk · contribs), and Xander756 (talk · contribs) from editing under the Gamergate general sanctions. The topic bans for these three editors are converted to indefinite restrictions per the standard topic ban.

13) The Arbitration Committee endorses the community-imposed topic ban preventing Titanium Dragon (talk · contribs) from editing under BLP enforcement. This ban is converted to an Arbitration Committee-imposed ban. Titanium Dragon is indefinitely restricted per the standard topic ban.

14.1) Loganmac (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) is indefinitely restricted per the standard topic ban.

15) Willhesucceed (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) is indefinitely restricted per the standard topic ban.

18) The Arbitration Committee urges that knowledgeable and non-conflicted users not previously involved in editing GamerGate-related articles, especially GamerGate-related biographies of living people, should carefully review them for adherence to Wikipedia policies and address any perceived or discovered deficiencies. This is not a finding that the articles are or are not satisfactory in their present form, but an urging that independent members of the community examine the matter in light of the case.

For the Arbitration Committee, Callanecc (talk • contribs • logs) 00:46, 29 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Sanctions

Ryulong, I know I've been plenty critical of your editing, but this is much more than I think is warranted. Take care. Drmies (talk) 05:08, 30 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

We await your return. Be strong. GoodDay (talk) 07:10, 30 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks

If you want me to remove this, let me know.--Bbb23 (talk) 23:30, 3 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Just saying that I got the ping, but someone (^) apparently got to it before me. Cheers ​—DoRD (talk)​ 02:34, 4 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Ryulong! How are things. I hear you're suspected of socking--that's not good. I hope those suspicions are wrong, since they'll hurt you in an eventual appeal, which I and I'm sure others hope you will file at some point. Take care. Drmies (talk) 17:41, 19 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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