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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by SchuminWeb (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT⚡ 08:04, 17 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- File:ColbertCameo.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Gen. Quon (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).
Invalid FUR--this image is not discussed critically and does not significantly enhance readers' understanding. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 08:08, 8 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep The making of this scene is discussed in the production section and the reception of the manner in which Colbert appeared is heavily commented upon in "Reception".--Gen. Quon (Talk) 15:20, 8 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Response Readers can understand that he was broadcast via television screen without the screencap. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 22:16, 8 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Using this argument, virtually everything could be conveyed via text. The fair use rationale stands, is critically commented upon, and is in several places in the article. Get over it.--Gen. Quon (Talk) 03:20, 9 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Response You are actually mistaken and by your criterion, virtually any media could be included. Every scene in an episode of The Office will have some critical commentary: are you suggesting that the entire episode could be uploaded by fair use? Several dozen images? Fair use images have to be justified using stringent criteria and as you yourself pointed out, that means that most media can't be justified. This is one of them. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 05:40, 10 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- The funny thing about fair use is that, if its commented upon, it could be. However, this is commented upon in a specific way. Saying "a person on a TV" doesn't really give the scene justice. All the critics noted this, and the production section discusses this. Thus, contextually important.--Gen. Quon (Talk) 20:51, 11 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Response Are you arguing that the removal of this media would significantly detrimental to readers' understanding of this topic? —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 04:26, 12 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- The funny thing about fair use is that, if its commented upon, it could be. However, this is commented upon in a specific way. Saying "a person on a TV" doesn't really give the scene justice. All the critics noted this, and the production section discusses this. Thus, contextually important.--Gen. Quon (Talk) 20:51, 11 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Response You are actually mistaken and by your criterion, virtually any media could be included. Every scene in an episode of The Office will have some critical commentary: are you suggesting that the entire episode could be uploaded by fair use? Several dozen images? Fair use images have to be justified using stringent criteria and as you yourself pointed out, that means that most media can't be justified. This is one of them. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 05:40, 10 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Using this argument, virtually everything could be conveyed via text. The fair use rationale stands, is critically commented upon, and is in several places in the article. Get over it.--Gen. Quon (Talk) 03:20, 9 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Response Readers can understand that he was broadcast via television screen without the screencap. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 22:16, 8 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete. This screenshot can easily be described by text alone. Omission of this image would not be detrimental to the understanding of the article. — ξxplicit 03:29, 16 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by Explicit (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT⚡ 04:03, 16 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- File:Goodbyetoby2.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Mr.crabby (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).
Image is not discussed critically, but is decorative. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 08:10, 8 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by Explicit (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT⚡ 04:03, 16 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- File:TheOffice(US)2-04.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Mrtea (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).
Invalid FUR--image is not discussed critically, but is decorative (cf. NFCC #8.) —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 08:10, 8 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
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- File:InitiationRyan Dwight.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Mr.crabby (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).
Invalid FUR--image is not discussed critically, but is decorative (cf. NFCC #8.) —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 08:11, 8 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by Explicit (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT⚡ 04:03, 16 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- File:Dunder Mifflin Infinity.png (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Jamie jca (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).
Invalid FUR--image is not discussed critically, but is decorative (cf. NFCC #8.) —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 08:11, 8 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by Explicit (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT⚡ 04:03, 16 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- File:TheOffice(US)2-06.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Mrtea (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).
Invalid FUR--image is not discussed critically, but is decorative (cf. NFCC #8.) —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 08:11, 8 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
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- File:CreedOffice.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Mr.crabby (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).
Invalid FUR--image is not discussed critically, but is decorative (cf. NFCC #8.) —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 08:11, 8 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by Explicit (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT⚡ 04:03, 16 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- File:Theoffice-michaelsbday.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Tempusme (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).
Invalid FUR--image is not discussed critically, but is decorative (cf. NFCC #8.) —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 08:11, 8 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by Explicit (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT⚡ 04:03, 16 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- File:Goodbyetoby1.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Mr.crabby (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).
Invalid FUR--image is not discussed critically, but is decorative (cf. NFCC #8.) —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 08:11, 8 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by SchuminWeb (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT⚡ 08:04, 17 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- File:TheOffice-DwightsSpeech.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Atanamir (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).
Invalid FUR--image is not discussed critically, but is decorative (cf. NFCC #8.) —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 08:12, 8 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep Dwight's mannerisms have been compared to that of Mussolini's in this episode, and this is discussed in the Production and Reception sections. Thus, this image exponentially aids a reader, and allows them to compare the two individuals.--Gen. Quon (Talk) 15:17, 8 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Response There is no visual comparison with Mussolini, so the picture isn't helpful. Besides, a freely-licensed picture of Il Duce would suffice. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 02:27, 9 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- There's an image right in the friggin' article that is used as comparison. Check your facts before making blanket assumptions.--Gen. Quon (Talk) 03:19, 9 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Response There is no visual comparison with Mussolini, so the picture isn't helpful. Besides, a freely-licensed picture of Il Duce would suffice. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 02:27, 9 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete. This screenshot can easily be described by text alone. Omission of this image would not be detrimental to the understanding of the article. — ξxplicit 03:29, 16 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by Explicit (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT⚡ 04:03, 16 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- File:Launch Party.png (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Jamie jca (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).
Invalid FUR--image is not discussed critically, but is decorative (cf. NFCC #8.) —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 08:12, 8 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by Explicit (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT⚡ 04:03, 16 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- File:TheOffice-ValentinesDay.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Williamnilly (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).
Invalid FUR--image is not discussed critically, but is decorative (cf. NFCC #8.) —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 08:12, 8 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by SchuminWeb (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT⚡ 08:04, 17 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- File:TheOffice(US)2-10.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Jtrost (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).
Invalid FUR--image is not discussed critically, but is decorative (cf. NFCC #8.) —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 08:12, 8 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep The making of this scene is discussed in the "Production" section. Look these things up before going on mass deleting sprees.--Gen. Quon (Talk) 15:16, 8 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Response Readers can easily imagine Meredith's back. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 15:57, 8 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- I'm confused how you can assume someone can "easily" identify something. This isn't just a picture of a back, and there's a context to the entire image. The fact of the matter is that this image receives critical commentary twice in the article (Production, Reception), and helps aid the reader.--Gen. Quon (Talk) 16:51, 8 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Response Text can easily describe this situation, so it's not necessary to have this unfree media. Non-free media have to be explicitly necessary for conveying information and its lack must result in a significant reduction in understanding. If this picture wasn't here, would you understand everything in the article? —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 02:29, 9 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- I'm confused how you can assume someone can "easily" identify something. This isn't just a picture of a back, and there's a context to the entire image. The fact of the matter is that this image receives critical commentary twice in the article (Production, Reception), and helps aid the reader.--Gen. Quon (Talk) 16:51, 8 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Response Readers can easily imagine Meredith's back. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 15:57, 8 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete. This screenshot can easily be described by text alone. Omission of this image would not be detrimental to the understanding of the article. — ξxplicit 03:29, 16 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by Explicit (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT⚡ 04:03, 16 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- File:TheOffice(US)1-05.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Wikipedia brown (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).
Invalid FUR--image is not discussed critically, but is decorative (cf. NFCC #8.) —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 08:12, 8 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by Explicit (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT⚡ 04:03, 16 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- File:TheOffice(US)1-06.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Wikipedia brown (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).
Invalid FUR--image is not discussed critically, but is decorative (cf. NFCC #8.) —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 08:12, 8 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by SchuminWeb (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT⚡ 08:04, 17 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- File:Office-TheInjury.png (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Vossman (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).
Invalid FUR--image is not discussed critically, but is decorative (cf. NFCC #8.) —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 08:12, 8 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep Again, this image is discussed, and the manner of Michael's injury is expanded upon in Production. Also, it helps to aid the reader, because "foot injury" could have many connotations.--Gen. Quon (Talk) 15:15, 8 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Response You don't see the wound--just a foot in bubble wrap. That could easily be conveyed in text. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 15:57, 8 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete. This screenshot can easily be described by text alone. Omission of this image would not be detrimental to the understanding of the article. — ξxplicit 03:29, 16 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by Explicit (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT⚡ 04:03, 16 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- File:The office golden ticket willy wonka.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Hunter Kahn (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).
Invalid FUR--image is not discussed critically, but is decorative (cf. NFCC #8.) —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 08:13, 8 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the discussion was: no consensus. SchuminWeb (Talk) 06:44, 17 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- File:Local Ad.png (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Jamie jca (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).
Invalid FUR--image is not discussed critically, but is decorative (cf. NFCC #8.) —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 08:13, 8 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep the ad is discussed in the prose. Also, it's infobox use only, and the only nonfree image in the article. --Lexein (talk) 08:46, 10 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Response Simply discussing it does not meet the non-free media requirements. You discuss several things in this prose, but you wouldn't upload dozens or hundreds of images to this article, would you? —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 18:49, 10 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Please suggest an improvement that avoids deletion. Your interpretation of the NF discussion requirements seems to veer to the extreme, based on language nonclarity, not on any valid fear of legal action, which is the only valid reason to delete fair-use images. The ad is the title of the article, it is the focus of the episode, and is discussed. My improvement would be to choose a frame 1 second earlier which shows the fact that it is animated more clearly, or to choose a frame which shows the folded paper airplane, and expand the discussion of that. Let's not whack-a-mole. --Lexein (talk) 19:01, 10 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Response Simply discussing it does not meet the non-free media requirements. You discuss several things in this prose, but you wouldn't upload dozens or hundreds of images to this article, would you? —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 18:49, 10 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Is this screenshot even copyrightable? Nothing is really legible outside of the logo, which would fall under Template:PD-text. postdlf (talk) 19:15, 10 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Excellent point, since I think it's really just text and boxes, I don't think it's copyrightable. So, thus Keep.--Gen. Quon (Talk) 20:45, 11 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete. Yes, this is entirely copyrightable due to the remaining content in the background behind the ad. Shouldn't be too much trouble to recreate the ad in Photoshop and get a freely licensed version that way. — ξxplicit 03:29, 16 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- As far as I know, we don't fake images, except for actual in-real-life logos as SVGs. Further, there is at the moment no "reliably sourced description" of the animation or its concluding logo. So my "keep" !vote stands. (By the way, a careful reading of the current "more restrictive than 'fair use'" WP:NFCC says nothing about "decorative". All the deletion proposals based on that are invalid and non-compliant with WP:NFCC policy.) --Lexein (talk) 04:15, 16 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Why on earth would we try to remake the image instead of just cropping out the background? (which is itself the equivalent of mere geometric shapes as best as I can make ot out, but whatever). postdlf (talk) 17:14, 16 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by Explicit (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT⚡ 04:03, 16 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- File:Officedrugtesting.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Williamnilly (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).
Invalid FUR--image is not discussed critically, but is decorative (cf. NFCC #8.) —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 08:13, 8 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
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- File:GayWitchHunt.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Williamnilly (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).
Invalid FUR--image is not discussed critically, but is decorative (cf. NFCC #8.) Although this one has some greater relevance than other nominations I've made today, viewers can easily picture this scene and therefore the screenshot cannot be justified. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 08:14, 8 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
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- File:TheOffice(US)2-05.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Jtrost (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).
Invalid FUR--image is not discussed critically, but is decorative (cf. NFCC #8.) —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 08:14, 8 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
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- File:Meredithcar.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Mr.crabby (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).
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- File:TheOffice(US)2-01.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Jtrost (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).
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- File:Benfranklinoffice.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Mr.crabby (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).
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- File:TheOffice(US)2-21.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Williamnilly (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).
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- File:The office new boss.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Hunter Kahn (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).
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- File:Survivor Man.png (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Jamie jca (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).
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- File:Money The Office.png (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Jamie jca (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).
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- File:TheMerger.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Loft (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).
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- File:TheOffice(US)2-03.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Jtrost (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).
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- File:The Deposition.png (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Jamie jca (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).
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- File:Branch Wars.png (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Jamie jca (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).
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- File:Ultimatum Season 7.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Tvfanatic3 (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).
Invalid FUR--purely decorative. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 08:23, 8 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
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- File:Office US Cocktails.png (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Noir (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).
Invalid FUR--image is not discussed critically, but is decorative (cf. NFCC #8.) —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 08:30, 8 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
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- File:Office double date a.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by SchrutedIt08 (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).
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- File:Dwight business school.JPG (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by CPacker (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).
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- File:BloodDrive.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by CPacker (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).
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- File:AsianJimTheOffice.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Gen. Quon (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).
Invalid FUR--image is not discussed critically, but is decorative (cf. NFCC #8.) —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 08:31, 8 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep This image is discussed critically, both (minorly) in production, and largely in the "Reception" section, where many critics positively commented on the scene. Plus, it adds to the description, rather than just saying "Asian Jim", which is rather abstract and hard to understand.--Gen. Quon (Talk) 15:13, 8 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Response Do you think readers' appreciation of the idea that an East Asian Man is playing Jim are greatly enhanced by this non-free media or could they picture it without the aid of this screenshot? —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 15:58, 8 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Rhetorical questions do not contribute to a discussion. I agree with Gen. Quon and I think the screenshot helps readers understand the prank more quickly than text does. — CPnieuws (talk) 16:04, 8 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Response Rhetorical questions about hypothetical readers are precisely what you need when determining if media are useful for Wikipedia: Would the removal of this significantly impair readers' understanding? The answer is no. It's true that they would understand faster with the picture, but that's true of a number of pictures, audio, or video--that's not the defining feature of fair use. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 02:30, 9 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Response You are correct on the topic of fair use. According to Wikipedia's fair use definitions the file should be deleted. Nevertheless, I think these criteria are far too strict and I simply do not see the problem of keeping this image as decoration in the infobox. (off topic: I don't seem to be able to get this layout right, sorry for that) CPnieuws (talk) 15:45, 14 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Response This is a fair point: that the fair use criteria are too stringent. But it's one that needs to be taken up in a much broader venue than simply the discussion of this one image. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 09:45, 16 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Response You are correct on the topic of fair use. According to Wikipedia's fair use definitions the file should be deleted. Nevertheless, I think these criteria are far too strict and I simply do not see the problem of keeping this image as decoration in the infobox. (off topic: I don't seem to be able to get this layout right, sorry for that) CPnieuws (talk) 15:45, 14 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Response Rhetorical questions about hypothetical readers are precisely what you need when determining if media are useful for Wikipedia: Would the removal of this significantly impair readers' understanding? The answer is no. It's true that they would understand faster with the picture, but that's true of a number of pictures, audio, or video--that's not the defining feature of fair use. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 02:30, 9 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Rhetorical questions do not contribute to a discussion. I agree with Gen. Quon and I think the screenshot helps readers understand the prank more quickly than text does. — CPnieuws (talk) 16:04, 8 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Response Do you think readers' appreciation of the idea that an East Asian Man is playing Jim are greatly enhanced by this non-free media or could they picture it without the aid of this screenshot? —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 15:58, 8 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete. This screenshot can easily be described by text alone. Omission of this image would not be detrimental to the understanding of the article. — ξxplicit 03:29, 16 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
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- File:AndyPunchesHoleAgain.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Gen. Quon (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).
Invalid FUR--image is not discussed critically, but is decorative (cf. NFCC #8.) —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 08:32, 8 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
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- File:Michael dressed up as Darryl.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by NetflixSoup (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).
Invalid FUR--image is not discussed critically, but is decorative (cf. NFCC #8.) —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 08:32, 8 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
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- File:Broke.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by CPacker (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).
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- File:Office US Crime Aid.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Noir (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).
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- File:Office US Customer Survey.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Noir (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).
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- File:Theofficexmas season8.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Gen. Quon (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).
Invalid FUR--image is not discussed critically, but is decorative (cf. NFCC #8.) —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 08:32, 8 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
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- File:Doomsdaytheoffice.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Gen. Quon (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).
Invalid FUR--image is not discussed critically, but is decorative (cf. NFCC #8.) —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 08:33, 8 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
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- File:The office cafe disco.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Hunter Kahn (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).
Invalid FUR--image is not discussed critically, but is decorative (cf. NFCC #8.) —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 08:33, 8 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
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- File:Office US Baby Shower.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Noir (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).
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- File:TheOfficechina.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by NetflixSoup (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).
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- File:Pamandjim.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Gen. Quon (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).
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- Keep Kissing is discussed in production, as the is the scene's scripting. The reception also heavily comments on the scene.--Gen. Quon (Talk) 15:22, 8 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Response Readers can easily imagine the two kissing--this particular image isn't justified. Simply discussing a scene is not enough of a rationale for inclusion here. By this thinking, if you just discuss the entire episode, a video of the whole thing is fair use. You need to justify this particular image: can readers understand what happens without it? Obviously, they can. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 16:00, 8 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete. This screenshot can easily be described by text alone. Omission of this image would not be detrimental to the understanding of the article. Seriously, we need a screenshot to understand a kissing scene? — ξxplicit 03:29, 16 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
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- File:The Office Beach Games Fire Walk.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Ruby2010 (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).
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- Keep Instead of placing blanket statements for all these images, did you actually look at this one's article? The image depicts a fire walk, which receives a description in the production section. Also, the firewalk is difficult to explain in mere words, particularly for readers who have never seen one before. Ruby 2010/2013 14:57, 8 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- A firewalk can be explained by using a freely licensed photo of a firewalk instead, if that is the problem. --Stefan2 (talk) 15:02, 8 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep I agree with Ruby. This is in the article, and is discussed.--Gen. Quon (Talk) 16:44, 8 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Response Why would a freely-licensed photo of a firewalk be insufficient? —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 02:31, 9 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete. This screenshot can easily be described by text alone. Omission of this image would not be detrimental to the understanding of the article, and can be replaced by a freely licensed image. — ξxplicit 03:29, 16 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
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- File:MichaelJanClientKiss.JPG (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Gen. Quon (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).
Invalid FUR--image is not discussed critically, but is decorative (cf. NFCC #8.) —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 08:41, 8 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep Image receives commentary in both production and reception sections. Aids the reader.--Gen. Quon (Talk) 15:19, 8 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Response It is easy to imagine these two actors kissing--this image cannot be justified as fair use. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 16:01, 8 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- You're understanding of the "justification of fair use" is highly flawed. As was mentioned earlier, you seem to be paying more attention to the literal interpretation of WP:NFCC, rather than fearing legal ramifications. Since it is both commented upon and used in the article, it does, legally, qualify as fair use. On top of my earlier points, this should be kept.--Gen. Quon (Talk) 20:48, 11 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Response I have no concern about litigiousness--I'm concerned about using non-free media unless it's strictly necessary. Note that some Wikipedias don't use any. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 04:28, 12 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- You're understanding of the "justification of fair use" is highly flawed. As was mentioned earlier, you seem to be paying more attention to the literal interpretation of WP:NFCC, rather than fearing legal ramifications. Since it is both commented upon and used in the article, it does, legally, qualify as fair use. On top of my earlier points, this should be kept.--Gen. Quon (Talk) 20:48, 11 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Response It is easy to imagine these two actors kissing--this image cannot be justified as fair use. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 16:01, 8 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete. This screenshot can easily be described by text alone. Omission of this image would not be detrimental to the understanding of the article. Another kissing scene, really. — ξxplicit 03:29, 16 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
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- File:Andy with cake smashed in his face.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by NetflixSoup (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).
Invalid FUR--image is not discussed critically, but is decorative (cf. NFCC #8.) —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 08:41, 8 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
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- File:Office the banker.jpeg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Mackerni888 (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).
Invalid FUR--image is not discussed critically, but is decorative (cf. NFCC #8.) —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 08:42, 8 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
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- File:Stress Relief.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by CPacker (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).
Invalid FUR--image is not discussed critically, but is decorative (cf. NFCC #8.) This is another case where there is a thin rationale, but we have to err on the side of not having restrictively-licensed material. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 08:43, 8 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
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- File:Office The delivery.jpeg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Mackerni888 (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).
Invalid FUR--image is not discussed critically, but is decorative (cf. NFCC #8.) —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 08:43, 8 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
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- File:Office US The Duel.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Noir (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).
Invalid FUR--image is not discussed critically, but is decorative (cf. NFCC #8.) —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 08:44, 8 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
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- File:Office US The Coup.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Noir (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).
Invalid FUR--image is not discussed critically, but is decorative (cf. NFCC #8.) —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 08:44, 8 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by Explicit (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT⚡ 05:04, 16 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- File:Office shareholder.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by SchrutedIt08 (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).
Invalid FUR--image is not discussed critically, but is decorative (cf. NFCC #8.) —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 08:44, 8 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
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- File:Office secret santa.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by SchrutedIt08 (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).
Invalid FUR--image is not discussed critically, but is decorative (cf. NFCC #8.) —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 08:44, 8 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
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- File:Andy's Sex Ed.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by NetflixSoup (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).
Invalid FUR--image is not discussed critically, but is decorative (cf. NFCC #8.) —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 08:44, 8 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by SchuminWeb (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT⚡ 08:04, 17 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- File:KathyPhoneJim.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Gen. Quon (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).
Invalid FUR--image is not discussed critically, but is decorative (cf. NFCC #8.) —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 08:45, 8 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep This scene received large critical attention. Read "Reception".--Gen. Quon (Talk) 15:18, 8 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Response It's just a woman holding a phone. How is this particular image necessary for understanding? —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 16:01, 8 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete. This screenshot can easily be described by text alone. Omission of this image would not be detrimental to the understanding of the article. — ξxplicit 03:29, 16 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
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- File:The office safety training.png (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by CPnieuws (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).
Invalid FUR--image is not discussed critically, but is decorative (cf. NFCC #8.) —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 08:45, 8 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- It was discussed critically, in reference 8 on the page about this episode, for example. http://tv.ign.com/articles/780/780375p1.html (read near the end of the review). — CPnieuws (talk) 15:45, 8 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Response Would readers' understanding be significantly decreased if this image wasn't there? Can text adequately convey the idea that Dwight and Michael were standing on a roof and pointing? —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 16:03, 8 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- I would like to know if you agree with my point. I don't think readers' understanding would be significantly decreased if the image wasn't there, but I do think it helps readers recognize the episode more quickly. — CPnieuws (talk) 16:14, 8 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- I concur. I'm also annoyed at the blanket "not discussed critically" rationale.--Gen. Quon (Talk) 16:55, 8 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Response @CPnieuws: That is one of the criteria for fair use. If media don't pass it, it must be deleted. You've implicitly agreed with my nomination to delete. @Gen. Quon: These images all have the same problem: they are purely decorative rather than critical for understanding. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 02:33, 9 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment the "critical commentary" business is merely a guideline example for screenshots (WP:NFCI, item 5). The actual policy criterion is "Contextual significance. Non-free content is used only if its presence would significantly increase readers' understanding of the topic, and its omission would be detrimental to that understanding" (WP:NFCC#8), and not as stated in this nomination. "Decorative" is a term of art meaning the writer doesn't like the image being there. Thincat (talk) 17:08, 9 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Response @CPnieuws: That is one of the criteria for fair use. If media don't pass it, it must be deleted. You've implicitly agreed with my nomination to delete. @Gen. Quon: These images all have the same problem: they are purely decorative rather than critical for understanding. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 02:33, 9 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Response Would readers' understanding be significantly decreased if this image wasn't there? Can text adequately convey the idea that Dwight and Michael were standing on a roof and pointing? —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 16:03, 8 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete Omission of the screenshot would not be detrimental to readers' understanding. Thincat (talk) 17:08, 9 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by Explicit (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT⚡ 05:04, 16 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- File:Office US Prince Family Paper.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Noir (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).
Invalid FUR--image is not discussed critically, but is decorative (cf. NFCC #8.) —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 08:45, 8 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by SchuminWeb (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT⚡ 08:04, 17 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- File:Itwasdwight.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Gen. Quon (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).
Invalid FUR--image is not discussed critically, but is decorative (cf. NFCC #8.) —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 08:46, 8 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep This image is discussed critically in the "Reception" section and allows readers to better understand the nature of Jim's prank.--Gen. Quon (Talk) 15:18, 8 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Response This image is not significant for understanding the prank. If you can read the text that "IT WAS DWIGHT" was written in red on a white door, then you'll create a mental image that is more-or-less identical to this one. You don't need this image to do that for you. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 16:04, 8 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete. This screenshot can easily be described by text alone. Omission of this image would not be detrimental to the understanding of the article. — ξxplicit 03:29, 16 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
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- File:Andyerinjessica the office.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Gen. Quon (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).
Invalid FUR--image is not discussed critically, but is decorative (cf. NFCC #8.) —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 08:46, 8 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
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- File:PDA the office.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Tvfanatic3 (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).
Invalid FUR--image is not discussed critically, but is decorative (cf. NFCC #8.) —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 08:46, 8 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
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- File:Pamsreplacetheoffice.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Gen. Quon (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).
Invalid FUR--image is not discussed critically, but is decorative (cf. NFCC #8.) —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 08:46, 8 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the discussion was: keep, but only in the Coosje van Bruggen article. The usage in Claes Oldenburg is prohibited, as it is a nonfree image in a gallery. SchuminWeb (Talk) 06:37, 17 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- File:Cupid's Span.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by CrankyScorpion (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).
Violates WP:NFCC#1 in both Coosje van Bruggen and Claes Oldenburg. The image is used to show an example of the sculptors' works, but the gallery at the bottom shows that there are works by them in countries which provide freedom of panorama (for example Germany, the Netherlands and the United Kingdom). This artwork is in a country which does not provide freedom of panorama, but the photo can be replaced by a photo of a different artwork which is in a country which does provide freedom of panorama. Stefan2 (talk) 13:51, 8 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep - this is incorrect in several ways. NFCC#1 is answered by specific NFUR for both Coosje van Bruggen and Claes Oldenburg, and "free equivalent" is being distorted to mean some other artwork in some other country where freedom of panorama exists, when WP:FOP is an essay, and cannot stand as a reason for deletion. The gallery was post hoc, and is not a valid reason for deletion: reversion of the application of gallery wikitext is the appropriate action. Further, the gallery has been stripped of all artworks but this one, so all reasoning based on "gallery" is void. Replacement by an entirely different artwork is not a valid reason for deletion: the artists did not do an entirely different artwork, they did this one. The general, and specialized NFUR (nested) cover fair use for educational purposes. Further, no remedy is suggested: what changes to the image would help? --Lexein (talk) 02:29, 10 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- I have uploaded a "free" version. Enjoy! :-))) — Mikhail Ryazanov (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 08:47, 10 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Heh! Luckily, your redacted version isn't needed yet because Cupid's Span is not on that DMCA notice, nor are any Wikipedia-hosted images of sculptures by those artists (only Commons-hosted ones). The copyright owner may indeed be respecting Fair Use. --Lexein (talk) 14:54, 10 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- I suppose, they must respect Fair Use in any case. :-) This whole DMCA story is kind of weird, starting from the fact that the original notice claims "The copyrighted work at issue is the text that appears on the Wikimedia Commons website" but then lists their own (?) texts and URLs of file description pages (not the images! except only one case) on Commons. Since everything was deleted completely, it is not quite clear now what actually was infringing. Probably the most straightforward way is to write to the address given in the notice and ask what was the problem and whether they can give explicit permissions to include some specific photographs in WP articles (so that no more deletion requests emerge for them). — Mikhail Ryazanov (talk) 23:03, 10 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Heh! Luckily, your redacted version isn't needed yet because Cupid's Span is not on that DMCA notice, nor are any Wikipedia-hosted images of sculptures by those artists (only Commons-hosted ones). The copyright owner may indeed be respecting Fair Use. --Lexein (talk) 14:54, 10 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- I have uploaded a "free" version. Enjoy! :-))) — Mikhail Ryazanov (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 08:47, 10 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by SchuminWeb (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT⚡ 08:04, 17 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- File:Soft Bathtub.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Postdlf (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).
Fails WP:NFCC. It is not discussed critically in either article, so it fails WP:NFCC#8 in both of them. In the article Pop art, it additionally fails WP:NFG. It also fails WP:NFCC#1 in at least the article Claes Oldenburg: there are other works by the same person which are located in countries providing freedom of panorama, and photos of those works can be used instead. Stefan2 (talk) 14:11, 8 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- In which countries would FOP apply to sculptures on display in the interior of museums? Because none of his "soft" sculptures (the body of his work this represents) are installed outside. If there are such countries, and we know that soft works of his exist there, then yes, this would be replaceable, but that's a big if. postdlf (talk) 16:44, 8 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- It looks as if FoP does apply for sculptures permanently on display inside museums open to the public in the UK.[1] Whether any of his soft sculptures are available in such countries I have no idea! Thincat (talk) 17:38, 9 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- ...and whether the institutes that have them on public display allow photography. postdlf (talk) 19:07, 9 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- It looks as if FoP does apply for sculptures permanently on display inside museums open to the public in the UK.[1] Whether any of his soft sculptures are available in such countries I have no idea! Thincat (talk) 17:38, 9 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- This appears to change things regarding the replaceability claim: Commons:Village_pump#DMCA_Take-Down. postdlf (talk) 06:05, 10 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Yes, the DMCA takedown notice on Commons may change everything, if the Wikimedia Foundation's interpretation of the law is correct. Worse, it may require deletion of thousands or millions of files on Commons. There are still things like WP:NFCC#3a and WP:NFCC#8 which may apply, but I assume that the relevant articles need to be changed a lot due to the massive deletions, so it may be too early to say anything about that. --Stefan2 (talk) 16:20, 10 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- What an extraordinary development. You could argue that this strengthens the fair use argument. All the same, particularly because photos of Oldenberg's work are in the take-down list, my uninformed view is delete. Mischievous question: does this mean photos of buildings in, say, Ukraine, (which are not FoP in Ukraine) may be hosted on WP because US law gives FoP in these cases? Sounds far too tricky for me! Thincat (talk) 17:00, 10 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- I'm sorry, why exactly should this be deleted? Your !vote is a non sequitor in the middle of your comment. postdlf (talk) 17:03, 10 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- I am being utterly unprincipled and simple minded. WMF has taken down other photos of Oldenberg work even though fair use can be argued in the US courts (including for images on Commons). Hence, pending some rational resolution, it would be wise for the time being to delete Oldenburg images on WP as well. Thincat (talk) 18:19, 10 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Fair use doesn't apply on Commons; such claims aren't even permitted there. postdlf (talk) 18:22, 10 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- It is already assumed that Ukrainian buildings are allowed on a US website. See {{FoP-USonly}}. On Commons, the rule is that the buildings also have to be free in Ukraine, which isn't true, so images can't be hosted there.
- There is a possibility that the DMCA takedown request is incorrect (see discussion on Commons), but there are no US court rulings on the matter, so it could go either way.
- A fair use claim on Commons may work in a court, but wouldn't work in a deletion request. --Stefan2 (talk) 18:25, 10 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Fair use doesn't apply on Commons; such claims aren't even permitted there. postdlf (talk) 18:22, 10 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- I am being utterly unprincipled and simple minded. WMF has taken down other photos of Oldenberg work even though fair use can be argued in the US courts (including for images on Commons). Hence, pending some rational resolution, it would be wise for the time being to delete Oldenburg images on WP as well. Thincat (talk) 18:19, 10 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- I'm sorry, why exactly should this be deleted? Your !vote is a non sequitor in the middle of your comment. postdlf (talk) 17:03, 10 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Anyway, the replaceability argument appears moot at least in practice now given the deletions by the Foundation on Commons notwithstanding FoP claims. As for the "critical commentary" requirement, Oldenburg's works chiefly fall into two categories: 1) extremely large-scale, public sculptures that reproduce ordinary objects, and 2) "soft" sculptures of ordinary objects. This image is of a work that is representative of the body of soft sculpture as a whole, which are discussed at length in his article. postdlf (talk) 18:33, 10 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Yes, if some of the photos in the take-down are non-US (which I think they are), the replacability argument completely collapses. Sadly, very sadly, I think we would be well advised to be Wikipedia:Requesting copyright permission in this particularly unfortunate case. Thincat (talk) 19:25, 10 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
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Invalid FUR--image is not discussed critically, but is decorative (cf. NFCC #8.) Readers can easily imagine the three of these actors seated. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 16:05, 8 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
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Invalid FUR--image is not discussed critically, but is decorative (cf. NFCC #8.) Readers can easily imagine these two actors seated and wearing suits. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 16:06, 8 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
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Invalid FUR--image is not discussed critically, but is decorative (cf. NFCC #8.) This is a mundane image which can be explained adequately in text. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 16:06, 8 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
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Invalid FUR--image is not discussed critically, but is decorative (cf. NFCC #8.) There is nothing special about this image that makes is addition critical. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 16:06, 8 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
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Invalid FUR--image is not discussed critically, but is decorative (cf. NFCC #8.) Readers' understanding that the office crew stood in the warehouse together is not greatly enhanced by this image. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 16:07, 8 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
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Invalid FUR--image is not discussed critically, but is decorative (cf. NFCC #8.) Readers can easily imagine Gervais smiling--just get a freely-licensed photo. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 16:07, 8 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
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Invalid FUR--image is not discussed critically, but is decorative (cf. NFCC #8.) Readers can easily imagine Mindy Kaling kissing someone; this image is not necessary. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 16:08, 8 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
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Invalid FUR--image is not discussed critically, but is decorative (cf. NFCC #8.) This image does not greatly enhance readers' ability to imagine Michael in Gabe's kitchen. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 16:08, 8 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
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Invalid FUR--image is not discussed critically, but is decorative (cf. NFCC #8.) It's not necessary to see this image to understand that Jim held a sign. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 16:09, 8 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
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Invalid FUR--image is not discussed critically, but is decorative (cf. NFCC #8.) Just get a free picture of Ferrell. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 16:09, 8 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
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Invalid FUR--image is not discussed critically, but is decorative (cf. NFCC #8.) It's just Rainn Wilson screaming. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 16:09, 8 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
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Invalid FUR--image is not discussed critically, but is decorative (cf. NFCC #8.) This is a list on lined paper--it's completely unnecessary. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 16:09, 8 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
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Invalid FUR--image is not discussed critically, but is decorative (cf. NFCC #8.) Readers can understand the content of this image in text: they're just standing in a barn. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 16:10, 8 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
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Invalid FUR--image is not discussed critically, but is decorative (cf. NFCC #8.) It's just Steve Carell seated and nervous. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 16:10, 8 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
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Invalid FUR--image is not discussed critically, but is decorative (cf. NFCC #8.) Readers can envision Steve Carrell with a bushy beard without this image. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 16:10, 8 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep Actually, this is seriously discussed in the article; the image/scene in question caused an internet sensation about whether one of the guys was Steve Carell, and it was proven false. This definitely aids the reader in understanding what is/was going on, and its removal would render the section confusing.--Gen. Quon (Talk) 16:54, 8 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete. This screenshot can easily be described by text alone. Omission of this image would not be detrimental to the understanding of the article. — ξxplicit 03:29, 16 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- How do you explain a bearded man that isn't Steve Carell that looks like him? This is a flawed argument.--Gen. Quon (Talk) 16:50, 16 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
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