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Category:Bands named after places

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The result of the discussion was: delete. Kbdank71 15:00, 10 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Category:Bands named after places (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
Nominator's rationale: Overcategorization. Ten Pound Hammer and his otters • (Broken clamshellsOtter chirpsHELP) 22:12, 3 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:SRC network shows

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The result of the discussion was: relisted on 13th. Kbdank71 14:18, 13 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Propose renaming Category:SRC network shows to Category:Télévision de Radio-Canada network shows
Nominator's rationale: SRC, or as expanded as Société Radio-Canada, is not the name of the network (which is supposed to be Télévision de Radio-Canada). Although SRC is used as the abbreviation (and thus..was also used as a brand for a short while), it doesn't mean we should use it here. ViperSnake151 20:38, 3 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
As the original creator, I'm not opposed in principle to finding an alternate name for this if other editors would prefer a different name, but pertaining to this particular nomination I think it's necessary for us to avoid the accented character é — since category names don't redirect in the same "straight to the real page" way that article redirects do, simply creating a redirect from the unaccented title isn't a viable solution to the problem that this category name creates for people who don't know how to type the accented characters. Category:Radio-Canada network shows might be appropriate, although it too could be potentially mistaken for the radio networks. Favour a rename, if a suitable one can be found, but I don't think this particular rename is the right choice. Bearcat (talk) 20:44, 3 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Songs about the Cold War

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The result of the discussion was: delete. Kbdank71 15:00, 10 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Category:Songs about the Cold War (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
Nominator's rationale: Too broad a subject, with extremely vague and POV criteria for inclusion. Wildhartlivie (talk) 19:24, 3 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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Generations X, Y, Z

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The result of the discussion was: delete. Good Ol’factory (talk) 04:44, 10 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Category:Generation X (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
Category:Generation Y (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
Category:Generation Z (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
Nominator's rationale: Delete all. The definition is much too vague. Upmerge only the epynomic articles. — Arthur Rubin (talk) 15:46, 3 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Gubernatorial titles

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The result of the discussion was: no consensus. Kbdank71 14:26, 13 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Suggest merging both to Category:Positions of subnational authority
Nominator's rationale: Upmerge, the existing categories are unsuccessfully split between different tiers of sub-national administration, and one country is too different from another in size and organisation to have a consistent approach. This is a wider re-nomination following no consensus at CFD on October 9. Fayenatic (talk) 20:11, 28 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so that consensus may be reached.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Kbdank71 15:34, 3 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Upmerge Category:Gubernatorial titles, in effect making the parent Titles of authorities at high administrative sublevel of government and leaving as its child Titles of authorities of local settlements. The existing category description defines it as for those offices which "could be rendered in English as Governor," which smacks of OCAT by name to me-- a Lieutenant Governor functions nothing like a Governor-General except in name. However, I would keep Category:Heads of settlement. While it may be difficult to distinguish a province from a department from an autonomous community, or a city from a town from a village, surely it is useful to distinguish the former group from the latter group. I looked at about two dozen articles and found little opportunity for overlap. -choster (talk) 22:00, 6 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment: The difficulty of having separate categories for two tiers of local government is that some titles have been used for town-roles and governor-roles at different times and places, e.g. Corregidor (position). Yes, such titles could be classified in both categories, but that's worse if one is a sub-cat of the other. I think I'd rather leave them as they are, and recategorise the articles that are currently in the head category. - Fayenatic (talk) 19:43, 12 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Two-lane freeways

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The result of the discussion was: close. Category:Two-lane freeways in the United States now exists as a subcat. Kbdank71 14:21, 13 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Propose renaming Category:Two-lane freeways to Category:Two-lane freeways in the United States
Nominator's rationale: Rename. All but one of these are in the US. That one road can be removed if this rename goes through. This better aligns this category with the limited access rename to break out these roads by country since the various names mean different things in different parts of the world. Vegaswikian (talk) 19:56, 28 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so that consensus may be reached.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Kbdank71 15:33, 3 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Rename per nom. Seems sensible. Johnbod (talk) 00:35, 4 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • keep and make a US subcategory. No reason to lose a place to put the non-US articles. The main article for this category (which I just found and placed into this cat) shows there are many non-US two-lane freeways that can/should be added here. Hmains (talk) 03:50, 4 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • REname as a US category. I have removed the offending British item A601(M) motorway, a one-mile link road that hardly deserves an article. "freeway" is not a term in use in UK. Peterkingiron (talk) 23:09, 4 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    • Editor is misinformed. Maybe half a dozen of these articles are for non-US freeways. So this A601(M) motorway article belong here also, as per the category name. Hmains (talk) 03:24, 5 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
      • Given the changes to the category since nomination, misinformed is an understatement. Expressways and motorways and freeways are different. Having them all included as a two lane freeway when their logical parents are not makes no sense. Currently there are two roads not in the US listed. If both of the current remaining roads are in fact freeways, then it would make sense to create Category:Two-lane freeways in Australia and include those two roads. However one of the two articles makes no assertion that it is in fact a freeway. Vegaswikian (talk) 00:33, 8 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
        • All this is very curious activity. Categories based on the names of the road as opposed to what it actually is. According to the first sentence of the article Freeway: "A freeway — also known as a highway, superhighway, autoroute, autobahn, autopista, autovía, autostrada, autosnelweg (Netherlands), dual carriageway, expressway, or motorway — is a type of road designed for safer high-speed operation of motor vehicles through the elimination of at-grade intersections." What could be more clear? What could drive the creation these separate categories based on the name of the road?
          • Because all expressways are not freeways. Is that clear? I should also add the the hidden comment at the start of the article clearly states that this is only for roads call freeways. Clearly excluding all of the other uses. Vegaswikian (talk) 21:51, 8 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
            • A freeway is a freeway if it meets the definition of a freeway, not because it is named 'freeway' Accordingly, expressways, motorways, or whatever that meet the definition of a freeway (full limited access;no at grade crossings) needs to be included in the freeway category regardless what other categories they may be in. Hmains (talk) 03:48, 11 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep in light of recently created Category:Two-lane motorways and Category:Two-lane expressways.-choster (talk) 05:20, 8 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Lists of female movie actors by name

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The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:Lists of film actors. Kbdank71 15:36, 12 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Propose renaming Category:Lists of female movie actors by name to Category:Lists of film actresses by name
Nominator's rationale: Rename. "Film" is the accepted usage rather than "movie", and my suggestion about "actresses" v. "female actors" may be seen below. Her Pegship (tis herself) 05:14, 28 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Support Other lists use similar terminology.Jinnai (talk) 14:34, 28 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so that consensus may be reached.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Kbdank71 15:33, 3 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
In the face of these entirely reasonable comments, I revise my proposal to merge Category:Lists of female movie actors by name to Category:Lists of film actors. Her Pegship (tis herself) 00:12, 5 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Lists of female actors

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The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:Lists of actors. Kbdank71 15:34, 12 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Propose renaming Category:Lists of female actors to Category:Lists of actresses
Nominator's rationale: Rename. Currently there is inconsistency amid the actor categories as to the use of the term "actress" v. "female actor". I don't feel strongly one way or the other, but I'm hoping to start a discussion that will solidify the use of one or the other. Her Pegship (tis herself) 05:11, 28 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Support Other lists use similar terminology.Jinnai (talk) 14:32, 28 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so that consensus may be reached.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Kbdank71 15:32, 3 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
In the face of these entirely reasonable comments, I revise my proposal to merge Category:Lists of female actors to Category:Lists of actors. Her Pegship (tis herself) 00:13, 5 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Generation X members

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The result of the discussion was: delete. Good Ol’factory (talk) 04:43, 10 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Category:Generation X members (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
Nominator's rationale: Delete See "#Category:Generation Y members" below. No reason to distinguish them. — Arthur Rubin (talk) 13:15, 3 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Generation Y members

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The result of the discussion was: delete. Good Ol’factory (talk) 04:43, 10 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Category:Generation Y members (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
Nominator's rationale: Per Wikipedia:Overcategorization. Superflous category. Erzsébet Báthory(talk|contr.) 12:27, 3 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Thoracic limb anatomy

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The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was: rename. There's no "consensus" here to rename, but there's also not anyone speaking out against the proposed change. So we'll make the change, but these renamed categories can be renominated for discussion by anyone as desired. Good Ol’factory (talk) 02:41, 18 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Category:Thoracic limb anatomy (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
Nominator's rationale: Using Category:Upper limb anatomy instead, to correct name, as thorax does not include limbs. Zigger «º» 09:47, 3 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Four related categories are now proposed for renaming:
--Zigger «º» 00:48, 4 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry for the brevity of my original comment. IIRC, most articles were already in "Upper limb anatomy", and I only moved the few remaining and the few sub-categories. I understand the use of the term thoracic limb, but find upper limb simpler and less ambiguous. The relevant article is titled Upper limb, which is probably where I should have started the discussion. I'll be proposing a matching rename for the "pelvic limb" categories to "lower limb", as I agree they must be consistent. --Zigger «º» 23:55, 3 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Incidentally neither name makes it clear what family of creatures we are categorising. Google tells me there are 'equine thoracic limbs' – these would probably not be termed 'upper'. Occuli (talk) 16:46, 3 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
The category under discussion is one of a very large number to do with human anatomy whose titles currently reflect neither anatomy nor the species. Forelimb or foreleg are probably the equivalent terms for animals. --Zigger «º» 23:55, 3 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Super heavyweight professional wrestlers

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The result of the discussion was: delete, empty. Kbdank71 15:04, 10 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Category:Super heavyweight professional wrestlers (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
Nominator's rationale: Empty Darrenhusted (talk) 09:18, 3 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Comment. Aren't there any? --Eliyak T·C 13:52, 3 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]


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Category:Twins (band) members

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The result of the discussion was: delete. Kbdank71 15:04, 10 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Category:Twins (band) members (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
Nominator's rationale: per WP:OC#SMALL This is a category which, by definition, will never have more than a two members - especially seeing that the group is now defunct. Ohconfucius (talk) 07:07, 3 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep – part of the established Category:Musicians by band. If there is a ruling or precedent somewhere about duos, then I could be swayed. (A category for some duos seems superfluous, eg the Carpenters, Simon and Garfunkel, the Everly Brothers.) It is a defining characteristic for each of the duo. Occuli (talk) 13:24, 3 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Cookies members

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The result of the discussion was: rename to Category:Cookies (group) members. Kbdank71 15:30, 12 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Category:Cookies members (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
Nominator's rationale: This is a category which, by definition, will forever have fewer than ten members - especially seeing that the group is now defunct. Ohconfucius (talk) 07:32, 3 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
And Broken Social Scene... Bearcat (talk) 22:15, 3 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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