Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of famous left-handed people: Difference between revisions

one of those endlist, Unmaintaniable listcruft, Delete-- Jaranda ^{wat's sup} 01:25, 28 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

• Neutral Wikipedia is not an indiscriminate collection of information, but this might be useful to someone.--Húsönd 02:02, 28 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep. Useful list. --דניאל ~ Danielrocks123 ^{talk contribs Count} 02:31, 28 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
• The list is unmaintaible, too many lefty though, better serves as a category, which I think it's in CFD for the same reason. Jaranda ^{wat's sup} 02:53, 28 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
• Strong Keep. As a lefty myself, I think this list is a great idea, and it even helped me out on a project. It's useful, so keep, per above. --Mysmartmouth 02:49, 28 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete. The only use I can see in this list is for left-handed poeple to brag momentarily about all the famous people that are left-handed, before being shot down in flames by right-handed people showing off how many more famous people are right-handed. This page is one of the most easily vandalised pages in all of wikipedia (who's going to go through and check if they're all actually left-handed?). The individual articles should say if they're left-handed or not. Ultra-Loser ^{Talk | BT sites} 02:51, 28 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete - yes 90% of the world can join the right handed list.Bakaman _Bakatalk 02:53, 28 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete. Why don't people spend time cleaning up articles instead of creating pointless lists? Arbusto 03:15, 28 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete A ridiculously broad criterion for a list. If it were ever completed, this article would include links to about 1 in 10 biographical articles on wikipedia. -- IslaySolomon 04:35, 28 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete Left-handedness is important, but you cannot draw much of a connection among the people on this list other than, say, the wrote or did whatever with their left hands. If being left-handed is a notable aspect of the person (say, someone like Sandy Koufax), then that can and should be covered in the person's article. GassyGuy 05:18, 28 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete. Interesting, but it's probably better handled by a webpage someplace. --Dennisthe2 05:22, 28 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
• Moderate keep. A category with the same purpose is currently up for deletion at CFD and one of the options mooted there is to merge it into this list. As such, it is clear that some of those there that the list should exist, and also deletion of the list will add confusion to that discussion. It may be better to at least hold this nomination in abeyance until some final decision there. Grutness...wha? 06:42, 28 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
• Weak keep, at least those which can be verified. By the looks of the list, it looks like everyone and his dog is left-handed. Is there more need for a list of famous right-handed people then? JIP | Talk 08:37, 28 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

If the split is indeed 10%/90% then a list of right-handed people would be about 9 times as unmaintainable. - Mgm|^(talk) 09:55, 28 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete . Unmaintainable. Contains too many people. With regard to most people this info is trivial and irrelevant and shouldn't be in their article let alone a separate list. When it comes to musicians and athletes something can be said for including it in the relevant articles and making a category out of it. Left-handedness is totally irrelevant to the carreer of for example a politician. Mgm|^(talk) 09:54, 28 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

In case anyone's wondering. I'm left-handed too. - Mgm|^(talk) 09:55, 28 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep. I'm a lefty, and I think that this is just as important as a list of gay people or black people. We're a minority that is discriminated against constantly, and I want our voice to be heard. Don't silence us! Billy Blythe 10:09, 28 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete as replace with a category. Batmanand | Talk 10:09, 28 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete Agree with category creation.~ Brother William 11:00, 28 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete. Do not create a category - that would be even worse than the list. A list is more maintainable, a category would end up in giant cruft. Pavel Vozenilek 12:03, 28 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep. Left-handedness is a fascinating subject of academic study where it is linked with other character traits; having such a list is therefore helpful. I agree with almost everyone that a category wouldn't work here. There is no need for a corresponding list of right-handed people. David | Talk 12:06, 28 September 2006 (UTC) (left-handed too, in the interests of full disclosure)[reply]

How does this article help to elucidate on the character traits linked to left-handedness? GassyGuy 13:12, 28 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Because famous people have usually become famous for something exceptional they have done (there are always exceptions, of course), so readers may wish to spot themes and trends in the list of people provided. David | Talk 13:54, 28 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete, unmaintanable listcruft, about as useful as List of people with blue eyes. Kusma (討論) 13:16, 28 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete this is the sort of list that is always a problem. who is 'famous' and what is the significance of grouping those selected 'famous' people by this criteria instead of a million others? -Markeer 16:23, 28 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete, not very maintainable (keep the category instead of the list, if one is to be kept). As noted, very few of these are noted for their lefthandedness, and where it's true it should be noted in the individual bio articles instead. Also, Billy Blythe's comment puts me into opposition based on WP:NOT a soapbox or forum for advocacy. I don't see that this list can provide any analysis or insight as suggested by David. Barno 17:23, 28 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Strong Keep, but needs to be sectioned, the athletes should have a seperate section, there are a million lefty ballplayers but few in the other professions. An interesting topic. Modernist 17:57, 28 September 2006 (UTC) Strong Keep per several arguments above. Why is it unmaintainable? All we need is a rule that every entry needs a source that passes WP:RS. Further to Modernist's comment, I could easily add many left-handed cricketers, all verified by standard cricketing sources.--Runcorn 19:12, 28 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]