User talk:Ryan22222: Difference between revisions

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Fix it, don't just delete it! See also: Wikipedia:Blanking sections violates many policies

Someone had put in a lot of effort for that section. (You'll have to look at the changelogs of the page the content was moved over from to find out the details. It was not me, I'm not involved in educational data mining. I just tried to clean up the cluster analysis article.) Yes, it may be overrepresented, but that is largely because the remainder of the article has major issues. This starts with many of the links being broken, and "bullet points should be minimized, if used at all" Wikipedia:Guide_to_layout#Paragraphs.

Dropping the whole section is inappropriate. You are seriously disregarding the effort another editor has put in, including references from various authors. You don't need to like them. You are even welcome to shorten parts, challenge parts as not being relevant to Wikipedia. I had already put in a "cleanup" tag, because that section does indeed need cleanup. But play fair, don't just delete a section altogether, in particular when the original article was not much more than a bullet point list, and as such a deletion candidate itself! You can add a "Template:Very long" marker to indicate that the section should be shortened.

If you are "Ryan Baker" as cited on the page, then you should disclose this WP:Conflict of interest now! You are welcome to contribute, but you should be really careful about deleting content of others and even more so try to work towards finding a consensus. Thank you. Please understand that I won't be able to help you much here; I know to little about educational data mining to be able to moderate here. But I believe if you just reduce the "very large" section to an appropriate amount of information (appropriate for Wikipedia, not necessarily compared to the remainder of the article!) that will work out somehow. --Chire (talk) 21:18, 5 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The text seems to be largely from User:Jucypsycho. I've left him a message. It would be really nice if the two of you could sort it out to find a consensus of what should be in there and what not. He doesn't seem an experienced wikipedia writer, and may very much appreciate feedback! Thank you! Let's make Wikipedia a happier place by working collaboratively. --Chire (talk) 21:33, 5 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]