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Gonzonoir is taking a short wikibreak and will be back on Wikipedia soon.

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Thanks for the feel-better message regarding administrative editing mishaps. It worked - I feel better. Saying that WP isn't intuitive is an understatement: I find it to a quagmire! Perhaps there will be a project initiated one day to clean up the new players help pages and consolidate topics or at least to stream-line navigation to all those pages and pages of info? Without a concerted effort, things will only get increasingly complicated, producing a steeper and steeper learning curve. And I can't ski! .^_^. Wordreader (talk) 01:21, 22 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

You're welcome. It would actually be very helpful to get your comments about the aspects of the help and guidance materials that are particularly confusing: once you've been around for a while the early memories fade, and I can no longer tell what's confusing and obscure when encountered for the first time. If you haven't already, you might like to check out the Wikipedia tutorial for a quick walkthrough of some of the basic editing processes, but really the error you made was a very easy one to do and not something you should feel bad about at all. Remember it's exceptionally easy on Wikipedia to "undo" almost any action, so everyone gets license to make mistakes :) Gonzonoir (talk) 13:22, 24 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Please help! The February 2011 Wikification Backlog Elimination Drive is almost complete. Please help, as the backlog is still very large. Still exceeding 20,000 articles! The goal is 18,000 or less. Lets see if we can do it! We're going to need all the firepower we can get, so please remind your friends to help as well.Thank you for all your help thus far! Regards, Guoguo12 (talk · contribs), Mono (talk · contribs), Nolelover (talk · contribs), Sumsum2010 (talk · contribs), and WikiCopter (talk · contribs).

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Thank you so much for the guidance!!

Mnicolosi (talk) 02:57, 25 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Any time! Glad to see the bot request was approved - just shout if you have any other questions (here or on the help desk). Gonzonoir (talk) 14:34, 25 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I noticed that your user page was vandalized. I think I have fixed it. Thanks. Kiwi128 (talk) 23:16, 25 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks Kiwi128! It might've been a good faith attempt to communicate, but given that it was from an IP rather than a logged-in account I can't tell what deleted page they were referring to anyway. Gonzonoir (talk) 09:54, 26 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Ben Simmons is a living person, commonly known to wikipedians as Gogo Praka. This article was created and collaborated on with the permission and help of this person. This person is a county cricketer who has represented the country at certain levels, thus , in my opinion, justifying his page. He, however, was not happy with the outcome and look so together we created a second page titled BEN SIMMONS which was much better and has now been deleted. Is this a mistake? 1/3/11AdamWimborne (talk) 18:58, 1 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Hi AdamWimborne.

Can you supply any links to substantial coverage in reliable sources (like a published book, or a profile in a national newspaper) that show Ben Simmons has competed at a senior level? Wikipedia has quite a specific standard for article inclusion, called the general notability guideline, which requires that every article's subject have been covered already by other third-party publications. In cricket, without the provision of sources like that, we don't presume a player to be notable unless he:

• has appeared in at least one major cricket match since 1697 as a player or umpire
• has appeared in at least one ICC World Cup Qualifier match since 2005, or in an ICC Trophy final prior to 2005, as a player or umpire
• has appeared in at least one World Cricket League match of Division Five status or above since 2007 as a player or umpire

If Ben Simmons hasn't reached this standard, and I can't find any evidence that he has, he may not meet be eligible for a Wikipedia article. (Obviously we do have pages for some players who've competed at a lower level, but these all have (or should have) references to the kind of high-quality, in-depth, independent coverage that shows they are notable all the same.)

To answer your second question, the page at BEN SIMMONS was deleted because it failed to demonstrate why the subject would be considered important enough to merit an encyclopedia article. Representing a school and a county B team are accomplishments, but they aren't significant enough to justify encyclopedia coverage by themselves (if we tried to cover every athlete worldwide in all sports who reached these standards, we'd have to add millions of extra pages).

If you're just looking to create a page somewhere on line for Ben Simmons's career, you might want to see our list of alternative outlets, which covers other sites that don't all apply our inclusion rules and would let you create and maintain a page as you wish.

One more note: I'm not sure what you mean by "Gogo Praka"; I don't see any use of those words anywhere on Wikipedia.

If you have any other questions, just drop me a line. Gonzonoir (talk) 11:40, 2 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

WikiProject Wikify's March Mini! Hello, I thought you would be interested in the March Mini, a coordinated effort by WikiProject Wikify members to eliminate the 2008 backlog of articles tagged with {{wikify}} and/or {{dead end}}. Come join in the fun! There are only three prizes to be won, including a special barnstar created just for this drive! Regards, WikiProject Wikify

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Hi there! I thought you might be interested in WikiProject Wikify's April Wikification Backlog Elimination Drive. We'll be trying to reduce the backlog to 18,000 articles and we need your help! Hard-working participants in the drive will receive awards for their contributions! If you have a spare moment, please join and wikify an article or tell your friends. Thanks! Note: The drive started April 1, but you can still join!

i was just posting an article about a minecraft server then it got deleted :( — Preceding unsigned comment added by Asjak5 (talk • contribs) 14:59, 31 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Asjak. Your article was deleted because it contained no information about why this server was particularly important. Articles can be removed very quickly if they don't show why their subjects are important enough to merit encyclopedia articles. In the long term, to survive in Wikipedia, an article needs to include references to substantial coverage in multiple independent, reliable sources - things like newspaper articles or books talking about why this gaming server would be considered especially significant. (This is the standard we call notability, a term you may have come across on Wikipedia.)

If you're just looking to publicize the server, then Wikipedia is not a good place to do that anyway, but you'll find some useful resources in our list of alternative outlets - there are lots of other sites that don't apply Wikipedia's notability standards and where your content wouldn't be deleted.

Does this answer your question? Gonzonoir (talk) 15:06, 31 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I didnt post it to make people join or anything i just posted the article to tell about the server i thought that was alllowed to do :( — Preceding unsigned comment added by Asjak5 (talk • contribs) 17:08, 31 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Please see the reply directly above. Gonzonoir (talk) 11:32, 1 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]