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ty :) Gise-354x (talk) 03:06, 18 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Are you aware that the article Climatic Research Unit email controversy is under 1RR restriction? That means you cannot perform more than 1 revert per 24 hour period. On top of that, it seems you actually have gone over 3RR, which is just a general rule. I suggest you self-revert all the changes over 1RR you have done, and that you read this Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Climate_change#Climate_change:_discretionary_sanctions.--Cerejota (talk) 12:33, 18 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Which RR should that be? You should look at a proper translation what REVERT means, i did not a single revert Dude. Gise-354x (talk) 14:36, 18 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

A reversion is any removal of material in 24 hours. I am not going to provide you with the entire sequence, but here you violated 1RR and 3RR in under 20 minutes, removing material from multiple editors: [1][2][3][4]. I suggest you speak to an un-involved admin if you doubt my word.--Cerejota (talk) 21:43, 18 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Then why don't you link me to the page where it says that removal of content is considered a revert? And for the content you cite, i re-added one of those and moved parts to the HADCRUT wiki where it belongs. And please use the section you started, instead of posting your reply randomly on my user page, thank you. Gise-354x (talk) 21:50, 18 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

If you restored the material in question, that is all I asked for, and then there is no problem.--Cerejota (talk) 21:55, 18 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The quote about Storch i re-added, 2 others i moved to the HADCRUT wikipedia entry and the 4th was wrong, it stated that there has been only 2 investigations. Gise-354x (talk) 21:59, 18 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Just to make sure you understand: 3RR is explained here, WP:3RR. I already linked you to discretionary sanctions. However, in the above line you admit, clearly, to WP:3RR, and by implication 1RR: there are no exceptions to these rules that cover moving material to other articles, nor if the material being reverted being "incorrect". Unless you are speaking of removal of obvious non-sense, or obvious vandalism, which none of your edits were, the purpose of the edits is irrelevant - its a quantitative not qualitative rule. Again, if you feel I am being unfair, ask an un-involved admin at WP:ANI for comment. --Cerejota (talk) 22:44, 18 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

No. I did not break that rule. And i suggest you go read the RULE yourself because i edited my own additions. I consider you are trolling people. If you do not stop i will seek help from an admin, because you 1.) do not act with good faith 2.) i did not break the 3 RULES you claim. Gise-354x (talk) 22:54, 18 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

You didn't edit your own additions, as those additions were in place before your account was created. Unless, of course, you are an unlabeled second account for someone else? Anyways, there is nothing else for me to say. It is clear you have all the information you need in this matter. Further issues around this should be addressed with parties uninvolved in this topic area, and as I have told you before, if you feel I am being unfair, go toWP:ANI.--Cerejota (talk) 23:01, 18 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Dude first you say i edited stuff from people in under 24h now you say i edited stuff from people which existed before i created this account. What is it? Gise-354x (talk) 23:06, 18 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Gise, here is the specific wording that you are seeking:

Undoing another editor's work—whether in whole or in part, whether involving the same or different material each time—counts as a revert.

If any of your edits involved changing something another editor has done within a (reasonable timeframe (>1day)) more than once - then you have broken 1RR. --Kim D. Petersen (talk) 23:25, 18 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

1. This[5] is a revert of this edit[6] by Tillmann

I haven't checked whether you did other reverts - but with that amount of changes - i rather suspect that you did. --Kim D. Petersen (talk) 23:29, 18 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Ok, first off so far i understand revert means "revert of an revision". Secondly i'm not aware that i "reverted" any contends from someone within 24hours time frame. In the future i will take care about edits i make within the correct timeframe. And it is not clear to me from the above user accusations, that i broke this rule. Because as i said above, i re-added and moved contends and only deleted what was not in scope or wrong. To check fact my argument read my edit comments. You might find also interesting that the user Cerejota, who accuses me of breaking 4 rules, started a sockpuppet investigation http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Sockpuppet_investigations/Yopienso Gise-354x (talk) 23:37, 18 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

A revert is any edit that undoes another editors work, in whole or in part. <-- that is the definition. And in most cases changes an editors work when the edit converts the text back to something that is the same or like a previous edit. Please read WP:3RR carefully, and it would be a good idea to watch some of the cases on WP:3RRNB. Generally on a 1RR article, you should do edits only in one block of edits - if other editors intervene in your edits - then back off - since you may end up blocked. --Kim D. Petersen (talk) 00:14, 19 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]