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Please be aware that when you make edits under an IP address, then make the same edits as a registered user, some might accuse you of sock puppetry. I see that you still haven't taken my comments over on the IP's talk page to heart. Since this is the only article you've edited, I'm starting to believe that you're essentially a single-purpose account. No there's nothing wrong (in terms of policy) of being an SPA, but you need to be aware that your edit patterns demonstrate a single-minded effort to insert your opinions about NORAD's culpability in the 9/11 attacks. As I've noted repeatedly on the IP talk page, our definition of original research includes using legitimate references to synthesize a conclusion that is not included in those references. When reliable sources start stating the things you allege are "facts" in the way you state them, then they are appropriate for the article. Until then, your conclusions, regardless of their validity, is simply not appropriate for Wikipedia, and might be better suited for a web forum or a blog. AKRadecki^Speaketh 18:59, 28 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

My post is based on old research, not new. You believe my research is new because it is the first time you have heard about NORAD's operational air sovereignty mission before 9/11. This is all new to you, but not to the history of NORAD as cited in my impeccable citations.

By the way, you will notice that citation #11 is new. This citation is dated 1 April 2000 and is the Air Force's AIR DEFENSE COMMAND AND CONTROL OPERATIONS instructions report in force on September 11, 2001 (as a matter of fact, the document is still current according to the Air Force Departmental Publishing Office Customer Service Desk). The Air Force report provides instruction and the references that outline procedures to be followed by units/ele­ments of the Air Combat Command (ACC) Air Defense System (ADS).

Chapter 3 (page 9) says, "CONTINENTAL UNITED STATES REGION AIR OPERATIONS CENTER (CONUS RAOC) 3.1. Mission. The First Air Force Commander (1 AF/CC), in his role as the CONUS NORAD Region Commander, provides CINCNORAD/Commander US Element NORAD with TW/AA, surveillance and control of the airspace of the United States and appropriate response against air attack."

My posting on NORAD now has a citation not only current for September 11, 2001, but the Air Force report is still current to boot.

Regards,

Dean Jackson

Washington, DC

You have been accused of sockpuppetry. Please refer to Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Brian78046 for evidence. Please make sure you make yourself familiar with notes for the suspect before editing the evidence page. Veggy (talk) 00:02, 13 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Your account has been blocked because you blatantly used it to evade the block on your IP which resulted from your 3RR violation, an editing pattern which you clearly continued with this account. I warned you before that the kind of editing that you are determined to engage in will not be tolerated. Wikipedia is not your soapbox. AKRadecki^Speaketh 00:24, 13 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Hi,

Why was my contribution to American Airlines Flight 77 removed? I cited a document from the United States District Court of Virginia (http://www.vaed.uscourts.gov/notablecases/moussaoui/exhibits/prosecution/flights/P200055.html) that says Ted Olson received one phone call from his wife Barbara Olson that lasted zero seconds! The Justice Department says the phone call was an "unconnected call". Why would Wiki want to spike this factual news, but allow the grossly erroneous, and outdated information on Ted Olson's phone calls from Barbara Olson?

Since when were Federal Judicial documents considered inconsequential by Wiki?

Dean Jackson Washington, DC

At this point, I'm more focused on your deliberate attempt to circumvent our policies. Doing so doesn't exactly do much for your credibility. AKRadecki^Speaketh 00:58, 13 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

In an effort to be fair to you and what you are trying to add, I went and looked at your ref. What I found does not support your assertions, and is an excellent illustration of why our reliable sources policy is so vital to the project. The source does not say at all what you are saying in your edits, your conclusions are generated by you, which is clearly original research. The source you quote only says that a single call from Olsen's seat (3E, IIRC) was made to DoJ and was not connected. This source does not say that this was the only call made by her. You might notice that the other sources quote her call as saying she and the other pax were moved to the back of the plane, so it is perfectly logical that any subsequent calls by her wouldn't have been from that particular seat phone. In case you hadn't noticed, there were several other calls made from unidentified passengers, and when that fact is correlated with other phone records, the existing sources which state that she made 2 calls is entirely plausible. This illustrates why we rely on reliable sources, meaning primarily mainstream media and other such sources, to vet the information here. What is clear to me is that you have a particular agenda that you are trying to push, that you come to your own conclusions based on selective interpretation of a single ambiguous primary (not secondary) source, and that you are trying to use Wikipedia against our policies as a soapbox to push your conspiracy theory. Thus, you can consider this to be your final warning: continued deliberate attempts to circumvent our policies, whether our 3RR policy or our policy on reliable sources, will result in an indefinite block of your account. AKRadecki^Speaketh 02:11, 13 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Hi,

I have to admit, your reading of the Court's website material is correct! I can't prove Barbara Olson didn't make those two calls claimed based on the FBI's data. My apologies.

Also, the last thing I would ever do is to evade the facts and push an agenda with no regards to the facts! That is not the way I was brought up. I do have an agenda, that is true, but I would never intentionally allow an agenda to dictate what I write once I've been shown to be in the wrong.

Anyway, my estimation of Wiki has increased, and I'm thankful you were around to delete my postings nearly as soon as I posted them! How embarrassing if my erroneous comment had been allowed to remain!!!

Regards,

Dean Jackson Washington, DC

PS

Speaking off the record on Flight 77. Did you see the CNN interview with 9/11 Commissioner Tim Roemer? Take a look (it's only 31 seconds long):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UX01twhfUK4&feature=related

Now I live in Washington, DC and several years ago a work colleague (whom I was bugging about 9/11) told me he had a discussion with a Ronald Reagan National Airport official who informed him that on 9/11 the Pentagon had six anti-aircraft missiles on the premises (five on the roof hidden in fake A/C coverings and one hidden on the ground). This account by my work colleague matches perfectly (except for the sixth missile) with the other testimonies of Pentagon missiles, most notably by Ronald Reagan Advisor Barbara Honegger and French researcher Thierry Meyssan (Thierry Meyssan says he was told of the missiles by French and Jordanian military officers who were given a tour of the Pentagon).

No matter what you might think of Thierry Meyssan and Barbara Honegger, it's interesting that my work colleague's airport contact would repeat the same thing (except the Ronald Reagan airport official included a sixth missile battery, and disclosed where the missile batteries on the roof were hidden).

Also, the Pentagon itself has its own air traffic control room in the basement that watches all incoming aircraft from 300 miles out, and they use primary radar to do this (if an aircraft's transponder goes off, the military still sees the aircraft via primary radar/satellite tracking).

When you add all this up, you might be able to understand why I have an agenda on 9/11.

It's fine to have an agenda. I'd suggest you checkout blogspot.com...that might be a better place to publish. One of the reason's I maintain a blog there is because it's easy to use and there's no one else putting their nose into what I write. AKRadecki^Speaketh 23:14, 13 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I saw your fruitless efforts on Collapse of the World Trade Center. I fixed it for you. Now you please study how to edit on WIkipedia before you make any further edits. For the benefit of us all. Thank you. Debresser (talk) 21:02, 11 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

In a 2008 arbitration case administrators were given the power to impose discretionary sanctions on any user working on articles concerning the September 11, 2001 attacks. If you continue with the behaviour on Collapse of the World Trade Center, you may be placed under sanctions including blocks, a revert limitation or an article ban. Thank you. --Aude (talk) 04:02, 13 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Please take time to review Wikipedia's policies and guidelines, especially those regarding use of reliable sources and fringe theories --Aude (talk) 04:02, 13 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]