Talk:Wu Yanni

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With regards to the purported censorship of an image of Wu hugging Lin Yuwei after the race with their race numbers ‘six’ and ‘four’ because of its so called allusion to the tianmen square protests, I found three videos from local media outlet accounts on douyin (China's tiktok) that clearly show Wu and Lin beside each other, presenting the numbers 6 and 4 beside each other. western sources claim picture was removed and censored; however, local Chinese media outlets have shared the video/image. the videos have been available for a few days.

1. https://www.douyin.com/user/MS4wLjABAAAAGl5tINKrDnASFxZuUBoIAp7X_BYc1ieaW0l_ZN86n4U?modal_id=7284999754512174391 (at the 10 second mark, the image that was purportedly censored is clearly shown) source: Zhejiang Daily

2. https://www.douyin.com/user/MS4wLjABAAAAl6JYmBWwiAwBFL_0NeoxwIjLD43oCae8gi0jeh3xRVVVHP5TPEQ2Zhut8OFZ2BSk?modal_id=7284984569730829602 (at the 8 second mark, they're standing beside each other, with the numbers 6 and 4 clearly seen.) Source: Henan Radio and Television Station Elephant News

3. https://www.douyin.com/user/MS4wLjABAAAApn6eljS0Xpsle9wlpqS_ZJENB6PI8bB40VxECMCtVfg?modal_id=7284993445582736703 (at the beginning of the video, while they're racing, the numbers 6 and 4 are clearly seen.) source: Hebei Youth Daily Qingdou News

I would recommend removing the info to comply with WP:BLP. would like to know how wikipedia deals with a situation where local media outlets in China show the image, but western media claims it was censored. LilAhok (talk) 22:10, 4 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I actually would like to know. Wikipedia can't knowingly add in information that's proven to be dubious speculation at the least and willfully false at the worst. Given that those sources have not mentioned or possibly just omitted the fact that the photo is still showing on Chinese state media itself. How can one still call it censored when Chinese state media [1] is showing the picture in its entirety? Doesn't seem censored on Guangming Daily, and saying it's censored on Chinese media, would just be a willful falsehood. As I can see that the Guangming Daily social media channel, shows the picture still.[2] MarKraus (talk) 23:57, 4 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I see someone had added it in to the article nonetheless. I am not going to challenge that edit because there does appear to be a grain of truth to that "reportedly censorship" claim. However it's questionable at best to say it's "reportedly censored" when I see as of 8 October 2023, a few places where the photo isn't scrubbed. Including the actual original poster (Source Knews) on Tencent QQ - https://mp.weixin.qq.com/s?__biz=MzIwMTE1MzkyOA==&mid=2651304177&idx=3&sn=7752e8ac3bde2b2199ddd562d4ad8569&chksm=8d015c16ba76d500238e475c5d4eb1019f3bd3b8c2c05d99248272d2c6390f28dbf809642de3&scene=0&xtrack=1#rd Also the article is supposed to be primarily for the athlete, and might be WP:COATRACK to put something (gray and uncertain) they have nothing to with, on the athlete page as it's not appropriate, as it's an athlete's professional bio page and this is not a tabloid for gossip that's not confirmed as full facts. MarKraus (talk) 00:38, 8 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

:The image's removal from Baidu, Weibo, CCTV, is a good sign that it has been censored in some capacity. [3]OneWordWonder (talk) 07:55, 8 October 2023 (UTC) Blocked sock puppet.[reply]

i agree with your take. also, i don't think this page needs a lengthy description of her disqualifaction from the 100m during the asian games. it is unnecessary and off-tangent to include names of atheltes who won medals as a result of her disqualification. i think we will need more opinions from other users before making an edit. LilAhok (talk) 23:07, 13 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Several of the sources report that this image has been censored within China. Of course those outside China can still access that image from Guangming Daily. OneWordWonder (talk) 02:51, 14 October 2023 (UTC) Blocked sock puppet[reply]

(wandering in here at random) There are definitely prominent American and British sources, at the very least, which state that the image was censored within China, albeit inconsistently.^[1]Cite error: There are <ref> tags on this page without content in them (see the help page).^[2][3] On the other hand, the South China Morning Post ran an article claiming that the photograph was taken by state-run media and not officially censored, and that the grey boxes were added by private individuals "making a point over the sensitive nature of the subject matter."^[4] Personally I kind of feel like the whole episode is a minor thing and not necessarily of great significance to this athlete's article specifically, but if people do want to discuss it on this page, the sources are there. As for whether or not there really was state censorship, I think it would be fine to just take the position that news outlets like The Guardian and CNN reported that there was, and that SCMP reported it was private social media users doing it of their own accord. No one can argue with that. 🍉◜⠢◞ↂ🄜𝚎sₒᶜa𝚛🅟ම𛱘‎🥑《 𔑪‎talk〗⇤ 09:29, 19 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

i found a video on Weibo that shows them hugging each other at the 1:05-1:07 mark of the video (first posted by the Chinese track and field team). the reportedly sensored image of them hugging with the numbers 6 and 4 can be clearly seen. Prior to them hugging, you can see them stand next to each other with the numbes 6 and 4. if a user decides to scroll through the media feed on weibo, they'll find the image on different media posts. https://m.weibo.cn/search?containerid=100103type%3D1%26q%3D%E5%90%B4%E8%89%B3%E5%A6%AE%20%E6%9E%97%E9%9B%A8%E8%96%87#&video