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Some of the images are placed in strange sections. There are photos of vehicles that are in the Fleet section, and others that seem to be unrelated specifically to the section they are in. The Ilminster postman with his bike is in the Public Interest section. That may be Ok as a generic filler. But the one I find confusing is the photograph currently placed in the Industrial Relations section. Not only is it unrelated, but the description is very misleading. It's named "Automated post sorting machine" which would lead some to believe it's what sorts the mail (i.e., grouped by addresses, etc). The fact is that it's not. It's a Seg, or Segregator, which is a rotating drum that separates flats (envelopes up to a specific thickness, which will fit into and be processed by the automatic sorting machine) from thicker items which will be processed manually. Unless somebody has an image of an automated sorting machine that actually is one, this ought to be renamed... although I do not believe it's a good choice for an image because it would require more than a simple title "A segregator, part of the automated post sorting machinery". Comments anyone?Twistlethrop (talk) 07:45, 23 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

To be honest I think the article is a bit of a mess but don't have the time to do it myself; the lead does not follow the MOS guidelines some of which says that The lead section should briefly summarize the most important points covered in an article in such a way that it can stand on its own as a concise version of the article. The reason for the topic being noteworthy should be established early on in the lead and also per WP:MOSBEGIN while the transportation images dominate when others could possible better illustrate appropriate sections. Go ahead and be WP:BOLD, delete or move images and make appropriate prose or caption corrections where necessary. Good luck. ww2censor (talk) 14:20, 23 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I understand. Thanks for the info. I too have not enough time to do such a thing. But with this section now in existence, somebody might pick it up. We can only hope. Twistlethrop (talk) 06:21, 28 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Post Office Ltd islisted in the info box as a subsidiary of Royal Mail, something it ceased to be in April 2012. Does this need removing, or clarifying? --Truthmonkey (talk) 09:33, 5 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I have now removed it.Rangoon11 (talk) 13:18, 5 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

"mail" is American English while "post" is British. It should have been "Royal Post". And strangely the US has United States Postal Service (USPS), --should have been United States Mail Service (USMS)! How did this come to be? Any reason for this? - Polytope4d (talk) 18:19, 13 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

The mail was the bag in which letters were carried. The post was the stopping place for the mail coach. Hence post office where you could put letters in the mail. "Post" and "mail" are both acceptable in British English, but "mail" has become dominant in the USA. The 20th century concept came from the British "Penny Post". Initially in the US the mail was coaches and riders, but they introduced stamps etc it was naturally called a postal service.Chemical Engineer (talk) 12:37, 14 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

With impending privatisation, the organisation of pages in WP seems odd. It would seem wiser to separate Royal Mail into a page of its own, not one that is really "royal mail holdings", and thus includes the Post Office and the logistics company. Heenan73 (talk) 11:19, 12 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Royal Mail Holdings is now Postal Services Holding Company plc. It looks like Royal Mail Group Ltd will become Royal Mail plc as part of the share sale, according to this. Could anyone confirm if this is correct, as if it is, the lead as it is now will need to be rewritten. Cloudbound (talk)

I noted in the section "British Overseas Territories and Crown Dependencies" and the BOT entry for List of postal entities that the territories have their own independent local operators. I'm rather confused, though, about photos on this page showing a Royal Mail vehicle on Ascension Island, and the RMS St Helena (1989). Does Royal Mail currently have a relationship with the Saint Helena BOT? Is the vehicle theirs, or is it leftover or sort of a joke for islanders? It looks like the ship is privately owned; who pays for it to transport mail? Are the Post Office staff employees of the territorial government or Royal Mail or someone else? -- Beland (talk) 19:07, 29 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

When I worked for what was then Post Office IT Services (under the umbrella of the Post Office) in the 1990s there were 16 businesses in the group. These included Post Office Counters Limited (POCL), Royal Mail (letters), Parcelforce, Subscription Services Ltd (call centres for the group and TV licensing), Cash Co (Secure transportation of cash etc for the Post Office and NatWest Bank), Stamps & Collectables. There was also RoMEC (Royal Mail Engineering ?) who installed pillar boxes, furbished Post Offices etc. The article does not tell us anything about these businesses. Neither does it tell us which businesses went with with Royal Mail when it was sold off. Can anyone fill in this major omission? FreeFlow99 (talk) 08:50, 22 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

The credit union was established as a joint local project between Royal Mail and the CWU under the name Royal Mail Wolverhampton and District Employees Credit Union. It is based at the North West Midlands Mail Centre, so fair to mention in this article. 2.27.78.13 (talk) 14:10, 8 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I have added crucial information about EU Directive 2008/6/EC of the European Parliament which amended Directive 97/67/EC, to the Privatisation section of this article. Odd this vital information was missing!(Spymo (talk) 14:51, 22 May 2015 (UTC))[reply]

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